picture, are half the living democratic presidents. so no, the only way the carters have grown at the ages of 96 and 93 this ought to be interesting -- -- federal judge merrick garland appeared at his first congressional oversight hearing since being sworn in as the nation's attorney general. he made pretty big headlines with his testimony, letting congress know that the justice department under attorney general merrick garland will be seeking considerable funding to up its capacity, specifically on civil rights enforcement and

on fighting domestic violent extremism. for the departments key role in enforcing the violence against women act, he is asking for a landmark, one billion dollars for the office of violence against women. republicans appeared to be horrified by his testimony, by the idea that the justice department will try to fully fund this work on civil rights, and violence against women, and domestic terrorism, and extremism, which of course the fbi said is predominately a white supremacist threat. hearing the testimony today they were not into it, as you might imagine. you know, like i said, under new management. -- elections have consequences. under attorney general merrick garland the justice department has started out federal investigations into multiple local police departments around the country on their use of force. the justice department has indicted a local georgia

sheriff for brutalizing prisoners in his care. the department has opened of federal civil rights investigation in the north carolina police shooting case. it will do so in the george floyd killing case as well. today, the daily beast was first to report that the justice department under merrick garland is gonna start bringing lawsuits into this rash of new laws in republican control states. that single out transgender americans for new overt discrimination. if in fact the federal justice department joins that fight on behalf of transgender americans and their civil -- civil rights, that will put that discriminate crusade around the country by republicans on a whole new level in terms of the fight they are going to get. so, new president, new attorney general, a justice department, very much under new management. now, as of today, here is a brand-new decision. this under new justice department is going to have to make. i honestly have

no idea where they are going to do about it. one of the burn marks left by the mueller investigation, one of the reason why trump attorney general william barr might not be able to find gainful a turn -- employment sense leaving the trump administration, is because as attorney general in the trump era justice department, william barr was found by federal car -- court to have lied to the country about the mueller investigation. in a federal court decision that will follow bill barr around for the rest of his life like toilet paper stuck to his shoe, a federal judge in washington d. c. found last year, that when robert mueller turned in his report on the russia investigation to the justice department, attorney general william barr lied to the public about what was in it. the judges's ruling said quote, according to barr, he failed to provide a thorough

investigation of the finding set forth in the report. questioning whether bars intent was to create a one-sided report about the narrative of the report. it's substitute at odds with the actual report. that was last year, a federal court finding that trump's attorney bill barr told untrue story about what was in the mueller report. now, today, a second federal judge has just ruled that bill barr and the trump era justice department, we are also disingenuous with the court they in effect lied to the court when they told her and the public a made-up story. a lie. about why former president donald trump was not

put on trial, was not charged, with obstruction of justice on the basis of the evidence that was collected against president trump and mueller's investigation. you might remember mueller support started with volume one, about what russia did to interfere in the election. volume two, it laid out more than ten instances in great detail of potentially criminal obstruction of justice committed by then president trump. when mueller finished his report, you might remember, bill barr told the public that he, had contacted the justice attorneys and head of sided on the advice that despite these ten plus instances of criminal justice by president trump laid out in the mueller report, bill barr consulted the justice department attorneys and said that despite all that, nothing trump did was really a crime. so, trump should not be prosecuted. remember, barr said they didn't rely on this prohibition on a president

being prosecuted while he is sitting in office. he said actually, we decided that the justice department, i decided on consultation with attorneys that none of those things describe constituted crime that's why trump won't be charged. that's the story they told the public. that apparently is not what happened. federal judge amy bernard jackson ruling today that the supposed advice that william barr got from the justice department, that's supposed to lead him to conclude that these weren't crimes, and therefore trump shouldn't be criminally charged, she ruled today that that advice to william barr, has to be released to the public. the justice department under william barr had repelled that. people filed requests for, it oh oversight group called crew had filed a lawsuit seeking that document. the justice department had demurred, said no, we are not gonna release that document because that is

real legal advice we don't release those things to the public. the judge ruled today that was not legal advice. she said it wasn't anything. the trump air justice said that document was. she said they have been disingenuous about this part of the process as well. in fact, william barr decided from the outset that president trump wouldn't be charged with any crimes. and what he had the justice department cook up for him was an after the fact rationalization of that decision he had already made. if you do that, that is not some protected privilege of legal advice thing that can be shielded from the public, particularly if you lie to the court about it because, if you are the u.s. justice department, the attorney general of the the united states, and you lied to a federal judge? and the judge finds out about it. particular if this is not the first time you've done it? the federal judge is going to be mad. [laughs] and they are gonna rule against you. frankly, and

in cinematic terms, listen to this. this is from the very top, the very start of judge jackson's ruling today. quote, on friday march 22nd 2019, special counsel robert mueller gave his report into russian interference in the 2020 presidential election to then attorney general of the united states, william p barr. the attorney general did not share it with anyone else. instead, before the weekend was over, he sent a letter to congressional leaders purporting to summarize the principal conclusions set out in the report. compressing into less than four pages, the approximately 200 highly detailed and painstakingly footnoted pages of all you won which discussions the russian involvement in the election. and the 200 equally detailed pages of volume two, which includes acts by president

trump in connection with the investigation. the internally generals four page letter, asserted that the special counsel did not draw a conclusion one way or the other as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction of justice. it went on to talk about internal general bars that the own opinion the evidence developed during the special counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense. judge jackson then continues quote, the president then declared himself to the ban fully exonerated the attorney general's characterization -- of what he'd hardly had to skim in time, much less studied closely, prompted on immediate reaction, as politicians and pundits took to the microphones and twitter feeds to decry what they feared was an attempt to hide the ball. even the customarily taxi turned special counsel was moved to pen an extraordinary public rebuke on march 27th and what she said the summary letter the department sent to congress and released to the public late in the afternoon on

investigations. the judge continues mueller called for the immediate release of his report, i. d., but it remained under wraps for another three weeks soft on april 18th 2019, the attorney general appeared before congress to deliver the report, he asserted that he had

it was time for the public to see the mueller report, rather than attorney general barr's misreporting tasting about what was in it. it is now time for the public to see that advice to him, and whether the president would be prosecuted. that's supposed advice to him, on whether president trump would be prosecuted. this is judge amy berman jackson, ordering the release of a justice department document we have never seen, which was the supposed justification for not bringing criminal obstruction of justice charges against president trump. in her ruling today, she ordered the release of that never before seen document. she also just ransacks the trump era justice department and bill barr's job running it, calling him

personally disingenuous, saying the justice department took steps to quote, obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum the justice department quote, strongly resisted allowing her, even heard the judge, to see this document they've been trying to keep secret, but she did see it. when she did see, it she finally understood why they had been trying to keep it under wraps. she says, the review of the document reveals that attorney general barr was not then engaged in making a decision about whether the president should be charged with obstruction of justice, the fact that he would not be prosecuted wasn't given. she says quote, there was no decision actually being made as to whether the then president would be prosecuted. so, surprise! what we thought happened, happened. robert mueller and his team of prosecutors laid out over several hundred pages, detailed evidence of all the multiple

times they believed president trump committed crimes by obstructing justice while he was in office. when that report was completed, and submitted to the justice department, william barr said instantly that justice department had william barr said instantly that the justice department had carefully reviewed every little bit of that evidence and concluded that nothing the president did seemed like a crime. that's why president trump was never prosecuted for his actions. well now, this federal judge has actually seen what happened behind the scenes. it turns out, their public representations about what was going on inside the justice department while considering this evidence was a lie. it turns out they never considered trump's allege blithe -- bribes. they just decided in her words as a given, from the outset, that trump wouldn't be charged with anything, no matter what. then they created a pseudo-illegal paper trail to cover their tracks on that after the fac -- fact. according to the judge, they lied to a federal judge about what they had done. now

she has caught them. she has their inter office emails, describing the production of this document that purported lee justified the information. she has the chronology of when the decision was made, and when they produce the document that purportedly was the advice that led barr to make that decision, which was back ass words in terms of its chronology. now she's ordering the justice department to release the paper trail. that they concocted here in order to support this lie. that the expected would never be shown to the public. but here's the thing, under new management, right, mayor garland is now the new attorney general president biden's appointed attorney general. and he now has the choice as to whether or not to appeal the judges ruling. he can appeal it if he want to. if you look at judge amy berman jackson's ruling today, i was having a

little bit of déjà vu. it's a little bit of like being back to the battle days. with all the sections of the judges rulings redacted. that is because those redacted parts of her ruling, they actually show what's in the ruling that she wanted the justice department to release. she redacted those portions of her rolling, and she didn't just go and release the document herself today, because she is allowing a couple of weeks to allow for the possibility that the justice department, under new management, may appeal her ruling and keep this thing under wraps. this is a heck of a thing, right? this is an administration that is in every way, looking forward and not administration that is in every way, looking forward and not back, right? maher garland is the attorney general no, and all new leadership with the justice department all new priorities moving forward with things that once, and here's a judge saying, you are immediate predecessor in this job lied to me, lied to the court, and lied to the american public about something so freaking serious as thank why the former president was not charged with crimes. are you cool with the

evidence of all that being released to the public? because it's coming out in two weeks unless you want to appeal my ruling. what are you going to do? no word yet from the new attorney general or the justice department as to whether they will accede to the judges's ruling and not appeal it or let this thing come out. but, wow. watch this space indeed. we are watching that tonight. beyond that, there are lots of other news we are watching tonight. last night we reported on what would seem to be good and clarifying, big political news for the democrats. republican leader in the senate mitch mcconnell has now -- announce flat out in advance that there will be zero republican poll -- votes for president biden's two new big legislative pushes. the obstruction bill in the american families plan. he is just saying it flat out, there will be zero republican votes.

i know that doesn't sound like good news for democrats or the administration and wanting to pass this bill, and on the force -- face of it, of course it's not. realistically, that clarity from the republicans is a very helpful. having the republicans in advance guarantee there will be zero votes from the side no matter what's in the bill, that frees democrats up to stop worrying about what's the democrats think. they have taken themselves out of the game. democrats can stop wasting time trying to sway republicans to support it. since republicans have said in advance they are not persuadable. okay, well we will stop dealing with you. democrats can move on now. given that they have that guaranteed from republicans they can move on, knowing that they only need to negotiate now amongst themselves, which is no small thing. they still need to negotiate amongst themselves, the democrats are a diverse group in the senate. but they know, was zero support from the republicans votes, they have to negotiate a bill from themself that can get all 50 democratic votes in the senate. then they have got to pass it under the senate rules that allow you to prove -- approve a bill with

only 50 democratic votes. in the senate, then they have to pass it under the senate rules that allow you to approve a bill with just 50 democratic votes. it has to fit the senate rules about what kind of legislation you could pass by those means. very clarifying. there is no ambiguity here as to what's going to happen. or what time should be wasted any further. that was last night. i do believe that's a big deal and it deserves more attention then the bell wave press. democrats are bare -- basically cleared by mitch mcconnell to stop wasting time. go ahead, move now i am passing infrastructure, passing the american family plans with just democratic votes, go. now today, the new york times is first to report that the democratic senate leader, chuck schumer, it's planning to add a bunch of immigration reform stuff to the infrastructure bill. to try to pass a limited number of immigration reform proposals, as part of that next big piece of legislation the democrats are going to move. and again, this is about realistic politics. at a certain point, i think we do ourselves the favor by no longer going through the

motions and talking about the republican party like they are part of the game, here. they are not. they have overtly taken themselves out of the process. it is not worth considering what they have to say about legislation that they are again teaming they won't participate in passing, no matter what's in it.. that is true on covid relief, they promised there would be no votes, there weren't any. it was worth democrats ignoring them. they have now said it will be the same thing on infrastructure., the same thing on the american families plan, and honestly, zero republicans will vote for any democrat -- democratic proposals on immigration as well. democrats are only going to be able to pass substantial legislation, with their own votes. they are not going to get any republican votes on anything. not as long as mitch mcconnell walks this earth. but that's kind of great for democrats in terms of knowing how to proceed. there is no use in talking about the stuff anymore. for proponents of immigration reform, moving pieces of immigration reform into that next must pass, we'll pass, the order of business

infrastructure bill, means finally that we might get some reform to our broken immigration system, for the first time in more than a generation. if you can stop the dumb, pointless process of talking to republicans about what they want, given that they won't vote for anything, you can actually make plans to move forward on something that can pass through the senate, through the budget reconciliation process. huge news. if the democrats can make it happen. and the strategic pass on immigration announced today, or reported today in the new york times, suggests that democrats have figured out how to do so, and now it is just a matter of watching them make it happen. now meanwhile, on the republican side, just because they are not participating in legislation, it doesn't mean that they are not doing anything. on the republican side, republicans in congress remain mostly just obsessed with weird, culture war fights. and with demonstrating unflinching loyalty to the

twice impeached, one term former president, who is allegedly criminal behavior while president may get a whole new level of exposé, given today's court ruling, enjoy? but, the beltway presses all head up today about the report that congresswoman liz cheney is about to be kicked out of her leadership role. in the republican congress party about her ongoing criticism of the former president that may yet happen. it feels inevitable to me at this point, but, why anybody should be surprised that the republican party is siding with president trump instead of siding with their supposed principles, implies that everybody has been asleep for the last five years. we are also gonna talk tonight with cara swisher about the decision expected early tomorrow about whether the former president is going to get his facebook account back, after he used it to try to mountain armed insurrection against the u.s. government. former president trump was banned for life by twitter, after he incited the attack on the capital in january.. facebook banned him at that time as well, but tomorrow they are going to say

whether the ban will continue, or whether it was, you know, temporary. whether it was just like a little violent insurrection time out. but now everything is cool. because that is kind of what facebook is paid for. if he does get back on to social media tomorrow morning, mark my words, what we will quickly find is that former president trump is just as obsessed with now, as he was in january, this fantasy that he still is the rightful president. that he was actually somehow elected, but we can't see it. joe biden really isn't the rightful president, but at some point it will all be revealed, and trump will be assured back into the white house. that fantasy does appear to be still, in the main preoccupation of the former president that same fantasy it is what is driving the on going, totally bananas recount of the arizona presidential elections results, led by a qanon

promoter stuff. theories from a guy who writes a book about travels your -- treasure hunting, to find mysterious folds in watermarks on all the arizona ballots, that they believe will true their fantasy that trump didn't really lose his the election. that insane fantasies also what is animating the anti rights -- voting rights rollback in republican states around the country. we reported last night on how florida republican -- republicans, are belatedly realizing that in their haste to pass voter right restrictions, in order to bolster trump's claims about mysterious voter fraud in the election, they might have accidentally curtailed the exact means of voting in florida, that is most popular among florida republican voters. oh no. republicans in virginia are leaning to nominate their candidates for virginia election. they're meeting to make those nominations this week. and. -- we can. virginia republicans. i

just now realizing that they are voter i. d. rules, which they passed and supported in order to bolster trump's bananas claims about voter fraud, they are just now realizing themselves that the voter i. d. rules that they have been insisting on our too much of a pain for them selves to follow, for the nominating convention this weekend so, emerson news is first to report that virginia republicans are exempting themselves. [laughs] from their own voter i. d. anti-voting rights rules, that they have been promoting for the state. but they realize that even they can't live by those rules for their own election to not -- nominate their own candidates for the election this year. opps! -- oops! and now in texas, texas republicans appeared to have stepped on a rake with their new draconian voting rights rollback, which is rocketing

through the texas legislator. today a huge group of major texas businesses stepped to the four to say they are against what republicans are trying to do to rescind and radically rollback voting rights along our state. texas republicans, may in theory, decide that they don't care about that, i guess. but have you seen who's on this list? of big texas companies that just came out to criticize them? i sort of think they are going to have to care i think they might have scored this up. that story in detail is next, stay with us. this is our block. our place. our people. our block, it's just like yours. full of the people who shaped you. they all deserve care and access to the vaccine. no matter their address, income, or skin color. not having a ride to get the vaccine.

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tried to pass what which was a bathroom bill. targeting transgender it americans. republican sponsor law would have had this day, step into bathrooms they mandate, which bathrooms transgender texans would be forced to lose -- use in public would be forced to use schools and government building's. the effort drew criticism from the lgbtq community, from democrats, from activists,, from some republicans. but, perhaps most importantly, it drew criticism from the business community. big fortune 500 companies spoke out about how that bill would hurt, not just transgender people in texas, it would also hurt the state. big corporations like ibm, based in austin, oil and gas companies like shelves, chevron, and excellent in houston, southwest -- southwestern american airlines, at&t and dallas news reported that more than 720 businesses and their leaders spoke up within letters and in person, to make their position clear. and that stained pressure worked. the texas

legislator did not pass that bathroom bill. not that year, at least. now, businesses in texas are ramping up the pressure again. this time, against two bills that are making their way through the state legislator, that would dramatically rollback voting rights. coalition a big businesses and business groups in texas, under the name fair elections texas, today released a letter, making clear where they stand on the voting rights rollback that texas republicans are showing -- pursuing. look at the signatories it's got american airlines, he will unpack or, microsoft salesforce, etsy, parker, uni labor. big companies. it says, we believe the right to vote is sacred. one more people participate in our democratic process, we will all prosper. we stand together as a non partisan coalition, calling on all elected leaders in texas to support reforms that make democracy more accessible and oppose any changes that would restrict eligible voters access to the ballot. we urge business and

civic leaders to join us as we call upon lawmakers and uphold our ever elusive core democratic principle, equality. in addition to the big companies represented, the letter was also signed by the first name you see there on the list, ron kirk who helped spearhead this effort to speak out about -- against these restrictive voting bills. joining us live is ron kirk, former mayor of dallas texas. he is the former u.s. trade representative during the obama administration. mister ambassador, thank you so much for making time to be here tonight. nice to see you. >> rachel, thank you so much for having me. in your introduction, you basically expose this effort for what it is. you know, [laughs] in a state like texas, whether republicans like georgia won every office, you would think they would be pretty satisfied with the process as it is. but this is not about election, it is not about the integrity of the ballot box. this is simply the

further the lie that president trump will not let go of, that somehow the 2020 election why's tanked. and the leaders who signed on to this effort, through our fair elections texas, they are making a fair point, and a recognition one, giving people more access through our democracy, empowering more people to vote. it's not only the right thing to do, it's also good for our economy. we are hopeful, as more leaders recognize this and speak out, perhaps we can have the same effect and result as we did in protecting the rights of our transgender use -- youth in the last session. >> one of the things that the new york times highlighted today an effort about this that you have

been laying down in texas, it is that it seems to mark a shift in terms of business communities willingness to stand on this issue. before this, we had seen american airlines and dell computer that had spoken out about their restrictive voting proposals in texas. we had also seen them get excluded by republican officials, both in texas and around the country that they shouldn't stand up and speak about this issue. shouldn't stan it effectively fe companies like american airlines and dull, now have a bunch of backup of having all these other firms stand up and say, yeah, we've got trouble with these bells -- bills as. well it feels like a closing ranks and letting the republicans know they can't single out accompany here or there to bully for their perspective on this issue. is that a fair analysis? >> i think that's a fair analysis. also i will point out, this began with the water coalition many of us were involved in in the effort last month to pose

the legislation in georgia. in which we engage the leadership to speak out about. this i will be honest, many of us, particularly many african american business leaders, the companies on the boards we engaged in said, if you meant it when he spoke out after those horrific events on january the 6th in which we all witnessed something that we thought would be unfathomable, enrich americans largely view by the law told by the core president attacked our own country and aren't democrats. you heard a lot of business leaders roundtable to u.s. chamber, say they would no longer support those individuals that refused to talk about the belittling of that election and efforts to

destroy our democracy. i don't think it's an overstatement to say, this is just as much a grant. the effort that you see highlighted in texas, georgia, florida, in states around the country to further attack our democracy by building in institutional disadvantages against primarily poor, and voters of color. and that the business community should just be just as unequivocal in speaking out about this, as they did those efforts that we witnessed in our nation's capital on january the 6th. >> recognizing the key, and sort of unparalleled power of the business community, to speak in a way that can be heard by the lawmakers who most need to hear it on this issue. ron kirk, former mayor of dallas -- it is a real honor to have you here with us tonight.

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election, a bunch of executives that facebook got together can import decision. this is how the washington post described what went down. facebook created project p, for propaganda. in the hectic weeks after the presidential election. they found false news reports ahead of trump surprised victory. nearly all were based overseas, had financial motives, and displayed a clear bright word bent. all of perfect neutrality which facebook exposes as it's, all the tilt should not have mattered.

many of those paces producing false information. a year later, it happened again. the company was going to try to change its news feed algorithm to limit the amount of misinformation flowing out of that particular firehouse for when they realize the new algorithm would hurt right-wing publishers more than others, because right wing outlets were pushing more information that was false. the company once again put -- pulled back. they pumped information

knowingly because limiting it would limit more right wing sites. why is that? the company announced that politicians would be exempt from facebook's fact checking. this decision by facebook was that they were not targeting donald trump and conservatives. even though they were the ones spreading the conspiracy theories. that had enormous consequences. trump was free to use that platform to lie about, say, the coronavirus, and to promote dangerous fake covid cures until lie about bogus election fraud claims and claim ultimately that the 2020 election was stolen. it took a freaking violent attack on the capital for facebook to finally change its mind, to finally recalibrate its concerns. after president trump used

facebook, and other social media to inside the january 6th attack, facebook finally banned him from his sight saying, it was too dangerous to allow him to continue posting their. but although twitter's ban on trump, after the administration was permanent for life, facebooks was not. facebook executives basically punted on deciding whether trump's facebook say should be put up. the 20 renowned experts around the world funding independently, that's the group that will announce the decision on whether trump will be allowed back on facebook, tomorrow morning, and 9 am eastern. tomorri will be honest, tech companies and how they make their decisions, i feel like, hey, why do i know? for obvious decision -- reasons, this will be a big decision for tech and social media, also for politics and for democracy.

and because, what do i know? i wanted to talk about it with somebody who understands this stuff. deeply joining us now is -- she's host of the podcast sway. nice to have you here. >> nice to be here. thank you for inviting me. >> this isn't my wheel house at all. i feel like i have come to learn, over the last five years, how the misuse of social media to undermine democracy place out in real life. but i have yet to understand what the tech companies can do about it. >> well, they can follow the rules. and kick people off that violate the rules which donald trump in numerous times over and over again. they let him do it. you can't even compare to anything he was allowed to violate the rules without any repercussion, until january 6th when he crossed one is a very bad red line which is to incite violence.

many of these companies did not want to become handmade into violence in this situation they move to -- it was a permanent ban. ban in they did remove facebook's case, him. and trying to get. that's they're exactly what they did. they abrogated their aggravated the responsibility to control responsibility which a company has to its platform, control the saying they didn't know what to platform saying they just didn't know what do. they didn't to do because they want to be the didn't want to be the arbitrator of truth, which hard-core of truth which begs the question why build begs the question of a platform that why they requires one. require one and now they've sent it over to this facebook oversight board which is going to make this decision which many people think will probably return donald trump to facebook, that's actually sort of the over and under in silicon valley right now. facebook will be compelled to do it and not have the responsibility of making the decision or not. >> is the oversight board making this decision based on an assessment of whether or not he has held to facebooks rules,

or are they making a decision on the basis of some sort of understanding of some greater good? >> while they're trying to do a greater thing because they couldn't possibly make decisions based on how it pays the platform so it's violated the rules and he's done it all the time and honestly it's not his fault. why wouldn't he do this if it was good for him? why wouldn't he increase fund-raising, he uses facebook a lot for fund-raising and why wouldn't he use twitter as a make phone? he's good at it. and honestly i hate to say this but i don't blame him because tools are available to him if they do nothing about it and so they give warnings as you know that sweater slapped warnings on him which was, i don't mean to be rude, but it was laughable. he just continue to do it and his base continue to retweet it. and in the case of twitter they finally said that's enough. and other sites like reddit did the same thing. the ceo told me that there is a thing, you know, cooperative that a lot of these trolls are so he decided that they weren't

cooperative and he just toss them off when they are violating the rules and in facebook's case, i think it should boil down to that. if you're someone who breaks the rules incessantly then you should be given a pass because he's the president or the former president. especially when he moves into very dangerous territory like this. but he had been flirting with it for a long long time. >> if they do decide to allow him back on the platform tomorrow, do you think that means that he is both back on the platform and the short term but also essentially indemnified from being kicked off again for the kinds of things that he's been shown to do that they've decided to look away from putting him back? >> no. i think there's going to be during the task just. if they allow him back on the platform, tv does things like the big lie and start doing it again of, course he's going to do it again why not? why shouldn't he? he never has any repercussions for what he does and again that's precisely what you would do if you wanted to have influence and you had sort of a

malignant idea of influence and so if he does certain things, from what i understand he will again be subject to sanctions but this is gonna be like whack-a-mole with him. instead of just considering him like, a lot of people who misbehave on these platforms, a bad actor interest kick them off. and that's what they've done with lots and lots of people including conservatives, some liberals, all over the place. and they've done that before and they just don't want to apply to this particular man. i see him is an outlier and there's not gonna be a lot of them but i worry about someday someone who's a little smarter than he is who doesn't make unforced errors the way he has so many times which i think he can't help himself in a lot of ways. >> cara swisher, new york times opinion contributing writer host of the podcast sway. thank you for helping me. this is not my wheel house, i'm sort of understanding the stakes but not the nuances and you've helped without a lot. thanks a lot. >> thank you. >> more ahead tonight, stay with us.

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