president was inaugurated. with rudy giuliani, there are three more distinct episodes i have a strong suspicion might be looked at. i expect to be contacted in due course. >> nbc has reached out to giuliani's lawyer, but no response. secretary of state blinken is on route here to signal u.s. support for ukraine against vladimir putin. hallie? >> andrea mitchell live in kiev. we will see you at noon eastern, about an hour from now here on msnbc for your show. that does it for our show. a busy hour of "hallie jackson reports." more coverage picking up right now with craig melvin. a good wednesday morning. craig melvin here. we are following a lot of fast moving stories this morning, including some big breaking news in the tech world. blocked, former president trump will not be allowed back on

facebook, at least not for now. the oversight board keeping its ban in place saying his posts about the attack on the capitol legitimatizes violence in a situation where there was an immediate risk to people's lives. the door may still be open for a return. we will have more on that breaking story in a few moments. right now, we are focusing on a huge inflection point in this pandemic. the race to vaccinate americans as the rate of vaccinations slows down. i want you to look at this chart from the cdc for a moment here, because this chart shows the daily number of vaccine doses administered in the united states. you can see the drop-off since mid april, especially in the last few days. any minute now, our top doctors will hold their white house covid-19 response team briefing. the briefing comes right after president biden announced he

wants 70% of american adults vaccinated by the 4th of july. these doctors have been out in full force in the last 24 hours. their message, plain, simple and repeated over and over. >> let's just get as many people vaccinated as we possibly can as quickly as we can. the end game is to get as as many people vaccinated as you possibly can as quickly as you can. >> more people vaccinated, less disease, less variants. the more people who get vaccinated, the less disease we have. >> i want to get to our reporters. peter alexander at the white house, stephanie gosk is following our country's vaccination progress. peter, i will start with you. in a few hours, president biden is going to talk about the american rescue plan and how the white house plans to implement that plan. take us through what we should expect in today's speech. also, this new ambitious

vaccination goal, 70% of american adults by the 4th of july. >> reporter: let's take each of those. first, new goal as relates to the desire to have 70% of americans with at least one shot by july 4th. we are at roughly 56%. it would require another 55 million americans getting those shots in the course of the next two months. the priority for this administration is to try to create a little new flexibility going forward in an effort to bring these shots to those people where they need them. not as much the massive vaccination sites. more the pharmacies where you can walk in with no appointment. you asked about the president's remarks a short time from now to take place at 2:00 today. i'm told by a white house official the president will be focusing on the rescue plan that has been passed and signed by the president. and within it, he will focus on the restaurant revitalization fund, which allowed for roughly

28.6, almost $29 billion to be handed out to support restaurants that have been so badly hit during the course of the pandemic. the national restaurant association says that 110,000 restaurants -- i'm going to triple check. 110,000 restaurants had to shut down as a function of this pandemic. the more than $280 billion were lost in the course of the last year and a couple of months. there are real worries that the money that is now directed that way, with the applications first allowed to be received this past monday, that it may not be enough and they may run out of money season. one desire of theed a -- of the administration is equity. they prioritize businesses, restaurants, that are owned by women or veterans or members of more disadvantaged groups in the communities.

>> stephanie gosk, tell us what it will take to reach that goal that the president laid out and how the fda's potential decision to expand pfizer's vaccine to some adolescents could be wind in the sails for slowing vaccination rates. >> reporter: it could. it adds a whole bunch more people who are eligible for that vaccine. we also know that in recent surveys, 25% of parents at least are hesitant about giving their kids shots. their concern is twofold. their children are at low risk from getting severe covid, which is true. they also say that emergency authorization isn't is approval. that makes them wary. there will be an effort to make those parents feel confident and secure that this is a vaccine that is safe and effective. that will be a huge part of this message. on the larger issue of really propelling forward these

vaccination efforts, you see the shift in strategy from the white house from mass vaccination sites, which have enormous success, to smaller neighborhood locations, places like small pharmacies that people might have more confidence in. the idea is, if there are people out there that may not be the most eager, but are still people willing to get a shot and there have been barriers, like they don't want to sign up online or the place is too far away, remove those barriers so that you can get people in to get their vaccine. we have spent a lot of time talking about what herd immunity is, what leave toll reach for that. you hear this discourse recently among experts that that number doesn't mean quite so much. what we have instead are examples of other countries like israel with a high percentage of their population vaccinated and you see those case numbers drop off a cliff. that is what this country needs

to do, according to the white house and the president. the way to do that is to keep getting people vaccinated. craig? >> this idea that if people can't get to the shots for whatever reason, the white house wants to get the shots to the people. stephanie gosk for us in new york, peter alexander, there at his post. thanks to both of you. i want to bring in dr. peter hotez, co-director of the texas children's hospital for vaccine development. he is the dean of the national school of tropical medicine. let's start where we just left off with stephanie, this idea about herd immunity. for months we have been talking about herd immunity. reaching a certain number of americans vaccinated to largely protect the broader population. this is what dr. fauci and dr. walensky said about herd immunity this morning. >> my goal is not a specific enough. >> we have to get away from this

elusive concept and elusive threshold. we don't know what that number is for coronavirus, because we have never been through this experience before. >> doctor, for months it was all about herd immunity. get to herd immunity. now it's like, maybe it's not about herd immunity. what changed? >> well, to be honest, i stopped using that term as of last year. the reason i did that was the term was so abused by right wing groups and these right wing think tanks and setting fake numbers out there that we would reach herd immunity at 20%, 40%. it did damage to the country. i stopped using the term all together months ago. what i say is, if we can fully vaccinate the u.s. population, the numbers will start to decline and we will see a dramatic decrease in transmission.

that really played out in israel where 50% of the country is fully vaccinated and 60%, 65% has gotten a single dose. you see numbers decline. we are starting to see that happen in some of the states in the northeast that have reached 50% threshold of single dose and close to 40% or more of two doses, now we are starting to see that decline. it will continue to decline as long as we continue to vaccinate. the real number, i don't think we know. we know, craig, that about 15% to 20% of the u.s. population is ineligible to get vaccinated because they are under the age of 12. i think ultimately, given how transmissible the variants are, we are going to need vaccinate just about all of the adults and adolescents. i know there's a 70% adult goal. i think that ultimately will have to go higher than that. we will see drop-offs in transmission. >> you said something last night that caught my attention. you told my colleague on cnbc

that as the white house moves to reallocate vaccines from some states to others, it could foster a red -- state divide. >> unfortunately, the divide is in place. if you looks at the top ten states, they are all new england states, california, new mexico, new york, all blue or blueish states. the bottom ten states, which are dramatically lower, top numbers are 35% single dose compared to 50% to 60% for blue states, the bottom ten states that are 35% level, big disparity, are all deep red states, either idaho, wyoming in the mountain area or georgia, tennessee, alabama in the south. that's a problem. if we're now going to ship those

vaccine doses to a common supply area -- i understand what they are doing. they want to get supply to meet demand. that's reasonable. but we're in for a problem over the summer in that we may fully vaccinate the blue states, leaving the deep red states largely unvaccinated and virus transmission will continue to circulate. i think we need to really look at this and give a concerted push to reach conservative groups. understand their concerns and do everything we can to bring those deep red states up to the same level of vaccination. >> i want to ask you about something that also caught our eye. this was in bloomberg. quote, based on evidence from the national health care database of the department of veterans affairs, they found survivors were 39% more likely to have a new diabetes diagnosis

in the six months after infection than non-infected users of the v.a. health system. your reaction to that. what are we learning about this virus some 14, 15 months in? >> i think there's two things. one, we have seen that individuals with underlying diabetes have a worsening course of covid-19. we have known that for over a year. also we are seeing an uptick in diabetes diagnoses because of virus entry into the pancreas and not so much infecting the cells involved with regulating insulin, but there's an innocent bystander affect where the immune response is knocking off a lot of the cells to the covid-19 virus. we are learning more and more about the long-term affects of covid-19 every day. we will have to see how -- if this diabetes phenomenon is

transient or whether it's going to be long lasting. if there are other factors involved as well, because of changes in lifestyle during the epidemic. >> thanks. when it comes to our race to vaccinate so far one state is leading the way. connecticut. >> we're the first state in the country to have over half of our adults fully vaccinated. that's an extraordinary achievement. >> the challenge for connecticut's governor now is persuading the state's remaining 1 million vaccine eligible adults to get a dose. ellison barber made her way to greenwich, connecticut. what are folks there telling you about connecticut's progress? what's the state trying to do now to reach those other million

vaccine eligible folks? >> reporter: reaching those other eligible adults at this point, that can in some ways be kind of the biggest hill to climb, if you will. the state is planning to use about $13 million, federal covid aid money, to reinforce messaging around covid-19 vaccines. we spoke to the chief medical officer at yale new haven hospital. he told us that right now, connecticut is sort of in phase three of the vaccine process. phase one was having a lot of demand for the vaccine but not having enough to meet that demand. phase two was having a lot of demand and then having the resources and vaccines to meet the demand. they say they are seeing demand drop. they have the supplies but not quite as many people coming forward to get it. they are seeing a lot of vaccine hesitancy, particularly around the johnson & johnson vaccine. moving forward, that doctor told us the key is to be very open

and transparent in communication and address concerns about the johnson & johnson vaccine to make sure that they are meeting people where they are. pop-up clinics going into specific neighbors. lowering barriers so that people feel comfortable, say, for instance, people who are undocumented, that they feel comfortable with this process to come forward and get vaccinated. ultimately, encouraging young people when they are able to get vaccinated, to do so. he would talked to people here who have been vaccinated. most people we spoke to said their family, friends, they have gotten vaccinated. one thing they hear and they have throughout this process is talk about getting vaccinated and encourage people they know to do the same. listen here. >> it's better than not getting vaccinated. just take the shot if you can take it. get it. i think that people -- i think people are just getting a little careless, too. i think people are saying, well,

there's enough people vaccinated, i don't need to get vaccinated. i don't believe that's true. >> you should go ahead. it's been very -- i've had no side effects, no issues. it was very easy once i got on the list and got going. i think it's easier now. >> reporter: this is a small state with a dense population. what worked here might not necessarily work everywhere else. one thing state officials say they think has been helpful is the governor's decision to go with an age-based vaccine rollout. it was controversial at the time. they say ultimately they feel like that helped make registration move faster and get shots in arms a lot quicker. craig? >> ellison barber there in greenwich, connecticut, as the locals call it, the gold coast of connecticut. ellison, thanks, as always. we are following breaking news this morning. it does not look like former president donald trump will be back on facebook. at least not any time soon. his ban was just upheld.

it's a fascinating case that touches our nation's politics but also the role of social media in our national discourse. we will dig into that. the former president has quite the hold on the republican party. take a look at this. ted cruz sharing them having dinner mar-a-lago. it's the former president who implied cruz's father may have had something to do with the assassination of jfk, the same cruz who called trump sniveling. they talked about how to retake the senate in 2022. what does this mean for republicans who don't want trump at the head of the party? we will look at the gop in-fighting, including that growing effort to oust liz cheney from house leadership.

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we are back with breaking news. we now know facebook will keep former president trump off its platform at this point. it's not clear whether this ban will be permanent. facebook announced the decision just over two hours ago. we have a response from president trump. the oversight board said the platform was justified in suspending the former president

usa accoun president's accounts after the january 6th insurrection. they said an indefinite suspension was not appropriate. >> facebook must make its rules on things like account suspension and deletion, which are important. they must make those rules consistent and transparent. >> nbc's reporter ben collins has more on the decision. i'm joined by derek thompson, staff writer for "the atlantic." he has been covering this for years. gentlemen, again, just moments ago, this response from the former president of these united states in response to this news from facebook. here is the statement. i will read it out loud for our listeners. what facebook, twitter and

google have done is a toal disgrace and embarrassment. free speech has been taken away from the president of the united states because the radical left lunatics, all caps, are afraid of the truth but the truth will come out anyway, bigger and stronger than ever before. the former president goes on a bit there. i think folks sort of get the gist of the statement there from the former president. derek, let me start with you. your response, your reaction to the president, the former president's reaction. >> look, i think there's two very different stories you could tell here. on one hand, you could say facebook oversight board held up on appeal the facebook decision. on the other hand, if you listen to what the oversight board members are saying, they are reprimanding facebook to a certain extent for being inconsistent and kicking it back and saying, you make a decision here. that's not like holding up an

appeal. it's more like remanding. the oversight board is saying, back to you, facebook, handle this. i think the president -- it's ironic. in 2015, trump was an online phenomenon who people said would have no real offline power. there was no way he would become president. now it's the opposite. this man has a stranglehold on the republican party. he was hanging out with ted cruz. the head of the gop. his online presence has been dramatically constricted. the origin of his power are now the ones that seem to be fighting back against the president, even as he has colonized the republican party. that's notable. >> also notable for folks watching and listening, i read that statement and it should be noted that former president

trump did in the statement refer to himself as president, current president. i did not misspeak. that was president trump. those were his words. mr. collins, here is the thing. this leaves open the possibility of trump returning eventually to facebook. take us through this decision and the next steps for the social media giant. >> i think derek did a good job of outlining the push and pull between the oversight board which is funded by facebook, $130 million of facebook money went into a trust that was then given to the oversight board. the board is not happy with facebook for pushing this incredibly important decision to them. i will read you a -- it's not here. the oversight board said, this is not on us. we need clearer rules. we need specific rules about who is allowed on this platform and who is not. in a couple months, you can come back to us with those rules and

maybe we can figure something out here. right now, we are still in limbo, because this self-appointed court that facebook appointed, it's 20 people, couldn't come to a conclusion about who was allowed to be expelled from a platform like this because there are no clear rules in the terms of service. they say some things aren't allow ed allowed, but people are allowed anyway. does this merit a suspension? why isn't there an end date? right now, donald trump is not allowed on facebook, but that may not be permanent. >> here is the thing, derek, for me at least, this entire conversation brought up a larger point. not to oversimplify it, but should the expectation of free speech extend to social media platforms? private social media platforms, at least privately owned. >> i think it's a really good question.

i have come on this show a lot and talked about facebook. every time i say, i don't know what facebook is, i don't know what it wants to be. this is a company that carved out an exemption for politicians to say whatever they want to say. on the other hand, they are asking to be -- some people seem to ask facebook to be celebrated because they kicked trump off. he had been -- he had lost an election and then he insighted -- incited this insurrection and then they kicked off off. they carved out this exemption. but they also kick out donald trump. they haven't created clear rules for how they want the cases to be ruled on in the future. they have a supreme court that should theoretically be ruling on the cases. it's a total mess. i don't think facebook understands what it wants to be. is it a reflection of the world of news as it is, or is it a

moral arbitor of the news that is ethical enough to pass a certain threshold? they never said what they are. it's inevitable that the oversight board would look at a case like this and say, we are like the supreme court without a constitution. you are asking us to rule on cases, but we don't know what the law is. i don't begrudge these people. it's a little difficult to rule on what is essentially a totally unfixed idea of what a company should be. >> quickly, to derek's point, i didn't know facebook had an oversight board until a few weeks ago when i was reading something about the trump decision. this oversight board, you mentioned it's 20 people. are they compensated? are there decisions etched in stone? is facebook compelled to go along with whatever the oversight board decides?

>> we have talked to facebook about this. their top line decision -- there's two paragraphs at the top. those are binding. they say that they made the right decision to get donald trump off the platform. that can remain that way. those are binding by the rules that facebook set out for them. facebook set them out for them. this is not a court. these are 20 people that agreed to be a part of the experiment and are compensated by a trust funded by facebook. that is the most important thing here. this has no -- this isn't the court. this is not the law. these are people paid by facebook. there is one really quick argument that is important that's buried in this. they outline something that's not binding in here. they say, we -- you need to do a better job finding out the science and the algorithms that lead one individual to have this much power on your platform. this is buried in the decision. that probably is the most important thing, but it's

complicate and nuanced and it's not something you can fit into a quick thing that you can react to one to one on breitbart or something. it's probably going to get lost here. >> ben collins, derek thompson, you do such a fantastic job of at least trying to help us understand this stuff. thank you both. thank you very much. this morning, as the investigation of rudy giuliani heats up, we are hearing exclusively from a key ukrainian official who had a front row seat to his interactions. my colleague andrea mitchell talked to a former aide to the president of ukraine. the aide says he listened in on a call back in 2019. this call was just days before the infamous call between the president and former president trump. you recall that's what led to trump's first impeachment. he says he heard giuliani press

the president to launch a smear campaign against joe biden in the middle of the democratic primary. >> how did you feel when you were listening to it? what did it make you think? >> i was shocked. i was scared. i was bewildered. i expected that phone call to be just a casual kind of nice to meet you phone call. we had -- i tried briefing to take that angle about rudy giuliani's past and about list involvement with ukraine prior to this situation and try to distract. but also by assessing the level to which he influences u.s. policy towards ukraine. the phone call made a u-turn as soon as mayor giuliani opened his mouth. >> more of that conversation next hour on "andrea mitchell

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it's one of two such measures making its way through the state capital there. more than 50 businesses now, including american airlines, hewlett-packard and patagonia are taking a step against the laws. take us through this measure up for a vote tomorrow in the coalition of businesses that are stepping up to try to stop it. >> reporter: craig, that is house bill 6 which would make it illegal or a state felony for election officials to send vote by mail applications to voters. it would also require that folks who are assisting voters at the polls fill out a form detailing why a person needs their help and how they helped them. among other measures. you mentioned the businesses that signed on to the letter. i'm here with nate ryan, the ceo of blue sky partners, one of the businesses that signed on the

letter. my question to you, what is your message to lawmakers inside that building who are going to be voting on this measure tomorrow? >> absolutely. happy to be with you today. thanks for asking that. this is about two things, really. first, this is not about democratic party or republican party politics. this is about the health of our democracy, protecting the right to vote is a democratic right. one that should be afforded to every texan is a convenient way. we know there's bipartisan agreement for that. the second thing is we know this has the potential to have major economic impacts on our state. the perriman group, a republican led group in texas, estimates that we could lose up to 75,000 jobs and $14.5 billion in revenue in just the year 2025 if these bills are to pass. that's because it would discourage investment in the state and potentially discourage workers and talent from moving here. >> reporter: if that bill does ultimately become law, what then? do businesses leave the state?

>> you know, i think that would be up for debate. i think the texas legislature needs to consider that. i think we have seen companies take political and social stances more seriously over the last few years. i think workers are coming to see ceos and corporations as leaders on some of these things. they are hoping companies will speak out. i do think that that's a chance. that's something the texas legislature needs to think through. >> reporter: thank you very much. craig, in terms of the time line that we are talking about here, senate bill 7, the other bill that we are tracking, has already made it through both chambers. of course, house bill 6 is scheduled to have a vote on the house floor tomorrow. craig? >> thank you. the former minneapolis police officer convicted of killing george floyd wants a in you trial. three weeks ago, a jury found derek chauvin guilty of second

degree murder, third degree murder and second degree manslaughter. meagan fitzgerald is following this for us. two questions. why does chauvin's legal team think that they deserve a new trial? secondly, do they stand a chance of getting one? >> reporter: craig, good to be with you. i have been speaking with legal experts who say they expected derek chauvin's defense attorney to file this motion. in it, in this four-page document that was filed last night, it details several different reasons as to why they believe a new trial should be granted. some of them include the denial of change of venue, the publicity that surrounded this case in the media as well as it says the failure by the judge to sequester the jury. if any of this or all of this sounds familiar to you, it's because we heard these very issues brought up throughout the trial. judge cahill denied each one. one thing that sticks around is

surrounding juror mitchell. an image of mitchell started circulating on social media showing him in a black lives matter t-shirt at the march on washington. that was last summer commemorating the i have a dream speech. this could potentially be problematic. the juries answered questions. many of them related to if they have participated in a march or demonstration related to police brutality. this juror told "the star tribune" that he answered truthfully. it's notenoteworthy that his na was not brought up within the motion that was filed last night. to your second question, is it likely we will see a new trial? prosecutors say, it's doubtful. take a listen. >> these motions are rarely granted. the reason is, in order for judge cahill to grant a new

trial motion based on the dozen or so claims that eric nelson made, judge cahill would have to conclude that he abused his discretion during the course of the trial. >> reporter: legal experts say throughout -- in next days or weeks, we expect to see an appeal to be filed to throw out the charges all together. craig? >> meagan fitzgerald for us. thank you so much for that. more than three years after they were separated at the border by the trump administration, a mother and her son finally reunited. nbc's jacob soboroff was there. he will join us with the story next. >> when you see your mom this week for the first time, have you thought about what you are going to do or say? >> i don't know. i love you, mom. i just hope we are never separated again. ♪“you're th”" by joe esposito♪ ♪

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another. the biden administration with lawyers working on the ground have reunified the first family. take a look. >> reporter: a moment years in the making for brian and his mom. a stark contrast of these images from 2018, the first and only from a facility used to house 5500. president biden telling craig last week his administration is working to reunite the more than 1,000 families separated. >> we are still continuing to find out where the hell they are. >> reporter: this is the port of entry where brian and his mom arrived. they were detained together and a few days after that they were separated. he was told his mom was in jail. he never was with her and she

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good day. we are following three stories following former president trump.