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for people like -- child care can afford it, so 20 million women can be back in the workforce. this is not -- makes no sense to me. but i'm going to have to be able to explain this. and i'm going to keep banging at it. i think i'm not being solicitous, and i'm not trying to ruin your reputation. most of you understand, whether you agree with me or not, you understand what i'm saying. it's fair to say this is about making the average multi-millionaire pay their fair share. it's not going to affect their standard of living a little bit. thank you very much. >> good afternoon, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. you were just watching president biden at the white house. although he is 1,000 miles away,
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though, from washington, former president donald trump is exhibiting his absolute control over the republican party today as he explicitly endorses a candidate to replace wyoming congresswoman liz cheney as she has emerged over trump's repeated false claims and efforts to overturn the election. the former president threw his support behind stefanik. president biden was asked about that situation when he visited a washington restaurant just moments ago at the white house. watch. >> president, do you have any comments on the efforts to oust liz cheney from the house by republicans? >> it seems as though the republican party is trying to identify what it stands for, and they're in the midst of significant sort of mini
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revolution. we need a two-party system. it's not healthy to have a one-party system. and i think the republicans are further away from trying to figure out who they are and what they stand for than what i thought they would be at this point. >> meantime, facebook upheld the company's decision to bar trump from communicating with his 34 million followers on instagram, which trump called a total disgrace. however, facebook has six months to justify its decision, the board says. >> the board is saying to facebook, you need to go back. you need to look at this case again, and you need to be clear and apply a penalty that exists within those that you have as your stated penalties. >> we've got lots to cover this hour. to kick things off with us, we are joined by garrett haake on capitol hill and ben collins who covers misinformation, extremism
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and the internet for us. garrett, i'll start with you as support for elise stefanik grows. adam kinzinger tweeted this out. every gop member of congress needs to go on the record as to how they will vote on liz cheney in operation #coverup january 6th and concerned donors should take notes, i will vote for liz. garrett, what is congresswoman cheney doing against efforts to oust her? we're seeing more of her allies step up? >> the problem is mostly she has the wrong friends to defend you in the house republican congress. the people we're hearing speak out on her behalf are folks like adam kinzinger, mitt romney, and even speaker pelosi have defended liz cheney. that's not going to do very much in the house republican conference. cheney, if she is whipping votes on her behalf to keep that conference chair job. these are two separate jobs, whether cheney stays or goes and a vote on who would replace her.
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it's not cheney versus stefanik. i think people shouldnd that. if she is whipping votes, she is doing it very quietly. my source aren't saying anything about it of i've not seen any public reporting about it. we're not hearing much from cheney aside from a statement from a spokesperson saying this is not just about the house republican conference here that she'll have more to say in the coming days. so far, saying very little in this moment, as her foes are speaking quite loudly, calling for her ouster. >> there's an interesting dynamic about this trump shadow, because 538 crunched the numbers and found liz cheney voted with former president trump nearly 93% of the time as opposed to nearly 78% of the time for elise stefanik. so, what does this tell us about the priorities of today's republican party and how much donald trump is firmly in charge
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here? this is not a vote about who supports the president more on policy and positions. >> this isn't a vote about conservatism. clearly, liz cheney is and long has been a conservative republican. she is in the crosshairs because she has vocally been going after former president donald trump about january 6th, about the fact that he continues to perpetuate the big lie that the election was stolen from him, which we all know is not true. i think there's frustration among house republicans, though because, as you say, it is the party of trump. they believe they need donald trump in order to win the majority back in 2022. and the fact that liz cheney is talking about january 6th more than most democrats are was a real source of frustration and a feeling among the leadership in the house republicans that she was not on their team and that that wasn't going to work for the next year and a half until the mid-term election. >> ben, the big news today was
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that the facebook oversight board made their decision, director of administration spoke to my colleague, hallie jackson about the message the board was trying to send back to facebook itself. >> saying to facebook, although you were correct on the day, although it was a severe violation, you didn't apply the right penalty. it's not proportionate to have an indefinite suspension. however there are clear recommendations, in the future what kind of tests should be applied and how users should be handled, techly political users and political leaders and how that should be addressed. >> a stern message to facebook that they have to do something about this arbitrary suspension. does this mean trump could end up being reinstated on to the facebook platform as well as instagram? >> it's inherently possible. this is basically the oversight
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board saying we didn't have a constitution to work with, and you're asking us to make a hard and fast law like a supreme court. we don't have real rules. we have to figure out the rules are first and then come back and make a decision on this one case. so, what they said to them was you've got six months. basically, let's figure out what it takes to get expeled permanently from facebook, and if that's a thing, and if it applies to politicians, extremists, for example. if you can't ban anybody, can you not ban extremists? what's the deal here? they're sending back guidance to facebook and that's get your act together. it's been a few years now. >> have we heard anything from facebook about what their next steps will be on this issue and others you've raised? >> no. they said there's a top line thing here. this is binding, legally binding. we have to do what they say. they will do this. they will go, take six months
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and figure out some rules and if you can expel people from facebook, and then we'll go through this all over again. >> former president trump's aides, axios reported, view facebook as the linchpin to his strategy. what could this mean for the 2024 presidential bid if the president is ultimately kicked off facebook? >> they have six months and then they may have another shot of getting back on to the platform. i was talking to republicans today, and they were saying privately that, you know, there was almost a sense of relief that the president wasn't going to be back on social media. they feel like he's a distraction from the party and that he has -- not having to deal with him on a daily basis is good for their candidates, particularly in the senate side. if you're donald trump's folks, you're looking at this is one of the key ways for them to raise money. he will need a lot of it to try
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to run. if he doesn't run he will try to raise as much money as possible in the intervening time. >> we heard president biden talk about having a two-party system. wall street puts it like this, purging liz cheney would diminish the party. do house republicans believe removing liz cheney will turn the page on trump's claims of election fraud? what's the end objective of removing her from this leadership position? >> the strategy, as best i cannd it, is a short-term one. it allows them to hopefully, they hope, stop answering questions about donald trump and particularly about donald trump and january 6th in the short term. it's instructive to look at how mitch mcconnell has handled this so differently from liz cheney. mcconnell excoriated trump after voting to acquit him in the second impeachment and then basically stopped talking about
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him. liz cheney takes every question about trump and answers it honestly. we can have a debate about the morality of how each of those actors have chosen to address questions about the former president but politically, tactically, house republicans appear to believe that talking less about those things would be better than talking more, and that's the choice they are essentially forcing here for liz cheney. >> they seem to forget the president himself is the one who continues to keep talking about that and driving that conversation as well. ben, maggie haberman of "the new york times" tweeted that trump is obsessed with the controversial arizona audit and has told people he thinks it could undo the election. how pervasive is this belief online that the election results somehow could still be otherturned, even 100 days in president biden's administration? >> it's extremely perfect vasy in the qumt amount non set. that's in part because it's pushed by the guy a lot of people think is q from qanon, ron watkins. he is spending a lot of days on
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telegram, pointing to security camera footage, this audit. a lot of people involved in this are on the far right. there's a guy who stormed the capitol that is counting those votes, part of the audit. it is all over the place, far-right, qanon parts of the internet. it's hard to find it otherwise because people have been deplatformed from places like facebook and twitter. if you follow these people down the rabbit hole, that's all they're talking about right now. >> anna palmer, garrett haake, thank you for starting us off this hour. >> former attorney general bill barr helped guide his decision to not charge then president trump with obstruction at the end of the mueller investigation. in her ruling judge amy berman jackson sharply criticized barr, saying he was disingenuous about the process, a freedom of
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information lawsuit brought by a government transparency group that sought the 2019 memo but the doj refused to provide it, saying it represented the private advice of lawyers. barr could not immediately be reached for comment. joining me now, a law professor at nyu and nbc news legal analyst. also the author of "where law ends inside the mueller investigation." great to have you with us. based on judge jackson's ruling, what do you expect to see in this memo? >> well, this decision by judge jackson, who doesn't mince any words, is a bit of a bombshell in two ways. one, she -- it is not new to your audience that the attorney general misled the american public in his so-called
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four-page summary. what is new is that judge jackson has seen in camera, meaning she, herself, has seen the memoranda that she has ordered to be disclosed, and she says in her decision that it provides further evidence of the deception played by the attorney general, including his statement to the american public that robert mueller left it to the attorney general to decide whether the president had committed a crime. and she says that's simply not the case. the second part of her decision that was pretty upsetting to many of us was that she said that the trump administration lawyers who presented the arguments to her were misleading to her. so, she was obviously, as a federal judge, quite upset that
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those statements were made to her that she said were essentially belied by the actual submission, which they fought to have her not see, but she insisted on reading. and when she read it, it led to this decision, saying that the memoranda has to be disclosed. >> so you raise two very important points there, which ultimately begs the question, what do you think the justice department now, this current justice department under merrick garland will do, can do, should do? >> so, that's a hard question because, of course, you and i don't know what is in the sealed submission. one part of her decision seems pretty unasailable. she says there's part of that memorandum that is clearly not legal advice and had not even been told and no argument was made to withhold that. she was quite upset, it seems, by the fact that this was something that they just decided not only not to produce but not even to address. it seems very hard for the
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current justice department to say that that part should not be when would. i think what the current justice department will do is see whether there are really legitimate arguments, just legal arguments. even though they might disagree with what attorney general barr did here, if they think there is a legal base under the freedom of information act to withhold these documents, they may take an appeal, but my bet is that they won't. remember, attorney general garland, in his confirmation hearing, said he thinks that foya needs to be very liberally construed in favor of disclosure and transparency. so i would say my money is on this department not appealing this. >> so let me ask you, if i can, about another subject. and that has to do with this breaking story following last week's raid on rudy giuliani's
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home in manhattan. a lawyer for giuliani has had conversations with a lawyer for trump about whether any of the material seized by the fbi could be protected by attorney/client privilege. the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan asked a federal judge to appoint a special master to review potentially privileged material seized by mr. giuliani. could this be a potential significant roadblock to that investigation? >> not at all. this is something that is -- i won't say fairly routine, but this is something that federal prosecutors do. in fact, any prosecutor does when they think they're going to obtain documents that could be covered by the attorney/client privilege, which is to ask the court to appoint a special master or, more common, to create a so-called filter team that would review material to screen out any attorney/client communications so that the team that's actually investigating doesn't get access to that.
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we did that, for instance, in the special counsel investigation and it works very well. the only thing that this means is that the process is slower, because you have to allow that filter team time to review and discuss it with, you know, mr. giuliani and potentially the former president to make sure they're screening out attorney/client information, but only material that is actually subject to that privilege. >> andrew weismann, thank you for your insights. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> the nation's top general says he's now open to changing the military's sexual assault policy, that failed to curtail a pervasive problem among the military ranks. i'll be joined by navy veteran mikey sherrill after the break. former aid to ukrainian president who said he heard first end rudy giuliani asking
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. >> how significant would it be if the recommendation is ultimately approved? >> it would be huge, ayman. this has been something that's been discussed for years. what's critical here is that members of the u.s. military, the leadership, the uniform service members, they have been against this potential change for years. well, now, as you mentioned, we have chairman of the joint chiefs who says he's open to it. what would this mean? for years when there's a service member who claims to have been sexually harassed or assaulted it's generally handled within that chain of command. this would change that. any kind of investigation and any recommendation for a court-martial or for some kind of adjudication of the issue, that would go into the hand of a civilian, who would take it and do the investigating and make the recommendations. it would be a potential sea change here, because the u.s. military has pushed back against
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this idea, claiming it would hurt good order and discipline and somehow erode that chain of command structure. now we have not only general mark mille who says he's open to the idea of this change, but his predecessor, former chairman, admiral mike mullen, also says after years of being against it, is he in favor of potentially doing this. why they have changed their minds is that for years the military has tried to take on and battle the skourge of sexual harassment and sexual assault with very little success. and they're saying now, look, we're willing to do just about anything that might potentially move this needle and help this problem, ayman. >> courtney kube for us at the pentagon. thank you. mikey sherrill of new jersey, veteran of the u.s. navy, congresswoman thank you and welcome back to this program. you were harassed during your service at the navy and the naval academy. does this investigation to let
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independent prosecutors handle assault claims go far enough for you? >> you know, i think this is a critically important change. and as you heard for years, our military commanders have been reluctant to do this. appropriately not seeing the changes we want to see, we're finally seeing the senior-most person in our military uniform, general mille, saying he's open to it. i think not enough peoplend what this means or had an this looks like inside the military. your boss, who had been friends with a lot of senior people at your company was the decision maker for sexual assault cases, and that his friend, his good friend assaulted you as a junior member of that team, and you had to go forward and make your case when his good friend had been the one that you were accusing. imagine the real conflict of
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interest in that. that's what we've seen in our military too many times. unfortunately, i'm still hearing the stories of sexual assault and harassment that i could have heard 20 years ago at the naval academy. >> it is quite remarkable when you put it the way that you did. why if the principle applies for sexual assault or harassment, why does it not apply to other military misconduct? why not have an independent prosecutor address all areas of military misconduct? >> there are instances of the commanding officer putting out rules. you couldn't go buy a motorcycle without talking to a senior person in the command because we just wanted to make sure that our young people joining didn't get themselves in trouble and get themselves hurt. stuff like that is something that a commanding officer is well within his or her purview to adjudicate. it really is when it comes to issues involving sexual assault
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and sexual harassment that again you can see those conflicts of interest. >> let me switch gears for a moment. on the political side, congresswoman liz cheney's days as a gop conference leader look to be numbered as republicans campaign against her for her criticism former prrp. what does this infighting within the republican party say to you? what do you make of it? >> you know, this, to me, is the republican party's continued desire to whitewash, quell dissent within the ranks of what happened on january 6th, the fact that president trump incited an insurrection against congress, as we were performing our constitutional duty, and certifying the election and, you know, to see that behind closed doors previously, the republican conference overwhelmingly voted to keep liz cheney in a leadership position, it will be very interesting to see how this vote goes, but i would like to
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see some more courage on the part of republicans in really quelling this idea that this was just a benign event and really holding the former president accountable for his actions. >> speaking of courage, the only republican, at least notable republican speaking out in her defense, adam kinzinger, he's calling this operation #coverupjanuary6. do you agree with that? >> i do. to say these were peaceful protesters and look at other instances and try to divert attention away from what happened, this was the president of the united states inciting a violent mob to attack members of congress, myself included. i was in the chamber. as we were certifying our democratic elections, trying to keep us from our constitutional duty. and the fact that too many
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republicans don't want to hold him accountable for this -- and keep wanting to put loyalty to president trump before the interest of our nation and our democracy is really, really something that's a shame to see. and i'm hoping that liz cheney prevails in this and we see some acts of courage in the republican party, but it doesn't seem like that's where this is headed. >> congresswoman mikie sherrill, thank you for your time and insights. appreciate it. >> thank you. president biden just rolled out a nearly $30 billion program to help restaurants hit particularly hard by the covid pandemic. and a migrant family separated at the border years ago is back together again. we'll have that story for you right after the break. you're watching msnbc. t after t. you're watchg inmsnbc. you're clearly someone who takes care of yourself. so why wait to screen for colon cancer? because when caught in early stages, it's more treatable. i'm cologuard. i'm noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92% of colon cancers even in early stages.
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the economy is growing. and our country is on the move again. >> joining me now is nbc news shannon pettypiece. what did we hear from biden on the american rescue plan and this restaurant revitalization fund? and does the white house feel confident that their messaging is working on this? >> reporter: yeah. well, you're hearing the president still trying to sell this covid stimulus bill passed back in march and this program for restaurants is a $20 billion fund that would provide assistance to restaurants, primarily those that are majority-owned by women and minorities and give them up to $10 million in assistance. it could provide a big boost to an industry that's really been the hardest hit, even though the industry says that's not nearly enough money for them. but this, of course, comes as he's trying to sell two more stimulus plans in the white house's description, infrastructure plan and then
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this child care plan. the president indicating he's open to negotiating a bit, a few moments ago on one of the key sticking points among republicans is the corporate tax rate. have a listen to what he had to say there. >> on the corporate tax rate, have you talked to ceos about that? >> yes. >> are you open to, say, 25%? >> i'm open to compromising, yes. it doesn't have to be exactly what i say, but to suggest that, which some of the folks are suggesting -- and i'm going to moob meet with the republicans next week when they come back, and seriously meet with them. i'm willing to compromise. but i'm not willing to not pay for what we're talking you about. >> reporter: as you heard the president say there, we anticipate some republicans coming to the white house next week for talks, but white house officials say they want to see a counterproposal from republicans by mid may. and by memorial day they expect to see some significant progress here or they'll reassess this attempt to get bipartisan support for this bill.
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>> shannon pettypiece, thank you. switching gears to a reunion more than three years in the making. a mother and son brought together yesterday. the first migrant family reunited under the biden administration after being separated during the trump administration. nbc news correspondent jacob soboroff was there for that reunion. he joins me now. quite a moment there. tell us about it. >> reporter: it was an extraordinary moment, ayman. it doesn't take much to see or understand that. this family was separated for more than three years like so many thousands, honestly, of people separated by the trump administration and that zero tolerance policy that deliberately and cruelly took mothers away from their children from the sole purpose to stop them from coming to the country. president biden promised to reunite those families and the first family was reunited. take a look. >> reporter: a stark contrast to these images from june 2018.
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the first and only from inside a facility used to house some of the over 5,500 migrant children, some as young as infants, separated from their parents. president biden telling craig last week his administration is working to reunite the more than 1,000 families who remain separated. >> and we're still continuing to try like hell to find out where they are. it's a full-blown effort we're making. >> reporter: this is the port of entry where brian and his mom arrived in late 2017. they were detained together and a few days after that, they were separated. brian was sent to a shelter. he was told his mom was in a jail. he never spoke to his mom until she was deported without him. after weeks in that shelter himself, brian was released to family members in the u.s. when did you find out you guys would be reunited this week? >> i would say three days ago. >> reporter: how did you react? >> it was really exciting to like get to see my mom again. just amazing.
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>> according to his lawyers, 15-year-old brian and his mom fled mexico after cartels kidnapped and murdered his dad and uncle and demand brian join their gang. what do you want people to know? >> it's a cruel experience that i hope no one has to go through. >> reporter: there's 1,000 people still in the same position as you. >> it's just unbelievable. >> reporter: inspired by his mom, once in the u.s., brian graduated high school a year early to pursue a career. what's it been like? you went through this just unspeakable thing in order to find yourself here in high school, like a normal kid. >> it's really amazing, as you said, but at the same time it was hard to grow up without a mom. like when i graduate, she wasn't there. and like my birthday, she wasn't there. >> reporter: when you see your mom this week for the first time, have you thought about what you're going to do, what you're going to say? >> oh, my god, i don't know. just like i love you mom and i
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hope we are never separated again. >> reporter: last night, they finally saw each other again. >> there are no words to describe the happiness that i'm feeling right now. >> ayman, he is an extraordinary guy. i have to tell you, not only did he thank his lawyers after he was reunited with his mom and his dad but he went to work with his lawyers for the first time. he will be working at the pro bono nonprofit legal services firm that protects migrant children. he wants to make sure that what happened to him never happens to anyone else again. >> extraordinary and a remarkable young man that should have never been put in that situation. thank you for your reporting, my friend. >> thank you. andrea mitchell's interview with a former aide to ukrainian president volodymyr zenesky. what he heard on a phone call between rudy giuliani and zelensky back in 2019. d
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investigation on the bidens. what did you learn in your new interview on this subject? >> reporter: so much about how much rudy giuliani was pressing ukraine's president zelensky and his staff to smear joe biden when he was running for the nomination to be the democratic nominee. this is back in july of 2019. and he was asked by the chief of staff to listen in, this is igor novikov, listen in what they thought would be an introductory call from president trump's former lawyer, but instead it was something entirely different. it was a real pressure campaign. let's listen. so at the time rudy giuliani is the president's friend, associate, some time lawyer. he has no role at the state department. was he also affecting policy? >> well, from our side, it seemed that was the case, unfortunately. i mean, even the title changed
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throughout the phone call. he began the conversation by introducing himself as president trump's personal lawyer, but then in the middle of the conversation, he already became his adviser and friend. and towards the end of the conversation, he was pretty much going in parallel saying feel free to talk to president trump, calling president zelensky, i'll talk to him myself. we were under the impression he was up there in terms of foreign policy in ukraine. >> reporter: of course, rudy giuliani's role here in ukraine is central to the investigation now into giuliani and, of course, the fbi raid on his home and his office, as well as what role, if any, he played in the pressure that we believe was considerable to get rid of, remove the u.s. ambassador, marie yovanovich.
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she has still not been replaced two years later. you know how significant that is, as this country awaits the arrival very shortly of antony blinken, secretary of state, for the dpchlt7, coming here for his first visit. he will address all of this with president zelensky, trying to shore up ukraine against putin and urge them not to backslide into corruption. ayman? >> you will be speaking to antony blinken in an exclusive interview. >> reporter: yeah. >> andrea mitchell, thank you for that very important reporting. >> coming up, breaking news on the push for covid-19 vaccine patent waivers. more on that after the break. >> first, let's get a quick check on the markets before trading closes for the day. economic optimism pushed the major averages higher throughout the trading day. dow jones industrial up 120 points, s&p up about 6 points, the nasdaq is down about 30. you're watching msnbc. s, the nasdaq is down about 30.
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[tv announcer] come on down to our appliance superstore where we've got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. and if you're looking for... we are following breaking news at this hour. today a federal judge vacated the federal freeze on evictions that has been in place since last summer to protect people from losing their homes since the pandemic. the judge says the cdc overstepped its authority. anyone who lives outside of these 18 states and the district of columbia that continue to have local moratoriums can once again be subject to eviction. white house press secretary jen psaki says the white house justice department is reviewing that decision. news on the global
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vaccination front, u.s. trade representative katherine tai just announced the biden administration now supports waiving intellectual protections on vaccines. it could remove a major hurdle for countries around the world vaccines that have been shown to be safe and effective. last year then candidate biden was asked by health activist if the u.s. would commit to sharing vaccine technology to help other countries. here's a part of his answer. >> absolutely positively. this is the only humane thing in the world to do. >> joining me now is director of center of inif he recollects disease research and policy, dr. michael osterholm. how impactful do you think this step by the administration will be to help other countries like india dealing with a major
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outbreak? >> actually this is a complicated topic that isn't a simple yes or no answer. what i mean by that is the real challenge we have had is developing the manufacturing capacity and having the expertise of the individuals that can run the plants to make the vaccines. so it's less about are we transferring technology that the companies have already said they willingly would do but if you don't have a place with the expertise to make the vaccine that's the challenge and will have to address. >> is making the vaccine more readily available to other countries, would that help them in the current fight or already in the middle of the surge that the vaccine is almost at this point too little too late? >> the current surge in india and now pakistan and nepal, vaccine even if available there is going to be an only helpful not a game changer and i say that because the surge which is occurring and if i vaccinate
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people today i might not have protection for three to five weeks at the very minimum and so we have to do other things such as the kind of distancing recommendations, keeping people from having contact. but for the global picture overall we need vaccine for everyone. we know from the variant standpoint that they threaten the very security of our vaccines and if we have unchecked transmission in the world we threaten the very vaccines protecting us. so it's not an issue at all but how to do it and trance fehring intellectual property doesn't provide you with trained highly skilled individuals to deliver the vaccines. that's what we really need right now. >> in recent weeks you have probably seen a significant dropoff in the rate of vaccinations. how significant is this? how do you explain this? how should we interpret this? >> i don't think this is a
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surprise. in fact, last december i did a podcast calling it the last mile the last inch and about getting vaccine to the communities that we need to deliver so that vaccines could be administered. we had many more arms available than we had doses of vaccine. we knew we would hit a tipping point where the number of people wanting vaccine is less than doses and occurred earlier because i give this administration great credit for the amount of vaccine delivered. remember when president biden took office there was a debate whether he could deliver on 100 million doses in 100 days. the administration delivered on 220 million doses in 100 days. we really have done amazing work getting people vaccinated. the problem we have now though is we have a sizable number of people and state that is aren't vaccinated yet. if you look 13 states right now have less than 50% of the population of even 1 dose and
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less than 6 states have less of the population vaccinated and they are ripe for outbreaks like michigan and oregon. >> obvious you saw the announcement and the president unveil the goal of 70% of americans one dose by july fourth. which is approximately 45% of the total population with consideration what we heard from dr. fauci earlier why what do you make of the president's new goal? >> it is aspirational and the right thing. we are not done with this virus yet and it is not done with us. we need to get as many people vaccinated as possible and to get us to a new normal to enjoy life again and people vaccinated can get together in groups and celebrate the time together.
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we can only accomplish that if we get people vaccinated so i give the administration great credit for setting that goal. the other thing is they did not say it. they actually are putting in place plans did go almost house to house, zip code by zip code to find people to try to help them understand why vaccination is so important, what it will do to protect them and their loved ones and an important part of the 70% goal. >> thank you for your insights. >> thank you. and that wraps up this hour for me. before "deadline: white house" begins i want to turn things over to katy tur after she got bumped by the president earlier this afternoon in her hour. it's okay when you get bumped for the president but i know you have something important to share. >> listen. he had very important news to share of his own and totally fine. but thank you so much for allowing me to come on and say good-bye. it is not really good-bye but
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see you soon. i hope to make it to the end of the week but in the interest of not having this baby on live television and it is time for me to take a break. so this show or the 2:00 p.m. show and all of you out there are like a family and don't worry. we'll share the good news once it comes and reiterate how incredibly lucky i am to get this time off paid for by the company to both be with my baby and recover myself and heartened to know in the two years since i came back from my last maternity leave federal employees have 12 weeks of paid time off. great news. but unbelievable that the same doesn't apply for every person in this country. everyone. you hear people say the united states is the only rich nation or the only industrialized nation that doesn't offer anything at the
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