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good day. this is "andrea mitchell reports." i'm casey hunt in for andrea who is making her way back from ukraine. we are waiting to hear from the white house where we are about to hear from president biden about the disappointing jobs report. here are the numbers. 266,000 jobs added, far below expectations among many economists who expected growth closer to 1 million jobs and unemployment that ticked up slightly. let's go to the president. >> i want to put today's jobs
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report in perspective. look, we came to office. we knew we were facing a once in a century pandemic and once in a generation economic crisis. we knew this wouldn't be a sprint. it would be a marathon. quite frankly, we are moving more rapidly than i thought we would. this morning we learned in april we created 266,000 jobs. listening to commentators today as i was getting dressed, you might think we should be disappointed. when we passed the american rescue plan it was designed to help us over the course of a year, not 60 days, a year. we never thought after 50 or 60 days everything would be fine.
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today there is more evidence our economy is moving in the right direction, but it is clear we have a long way to go. we have added 1,500,000 new jobs since i took office, the most since any president took office in history. in perspective, in the three months before i got here, the economy added about 60,000 a month. since i have been here the economy has added about 500,000 a month. this is progress. this is an economy from the bottom up to middle out. some critics said we didn't need the american rescue plan. that this economy would just heal itself. today's report just underscores, in my view, how vital the actions we are taking are.
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checks to people who are hurting. support for small businesses, for child care and school reopening. support to help families put food on the table. our efforts are starting to work but the climb is steep and we have a long way to go. today's report puts truth to loose talk we have been hearing about the economy lately. first, that we should stop helping workers and families out for fear of overheating the economy. this report reinforces the real truth. for years working people and middle class people, people who built this country have been left out in the cold, struggling to keep their heads above water while those at the top have done well. we are still digging out of an economic collapse that cost us 22 million jobs. let me say that again. cost us 22 million jobs.
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when we came in we inherited a year of profound economic crisis mismanagement on the virus. what we propose is going to work. we are going to get to 70%. but it's going to take focus, commitment and time to get the economy moving again, as we want it to move. we have got work to do. to state the obvious, we have work to do. look, let's keep our eye on the ball. that's why the american rescue plan is so important. i said we build it as a year long effort to rescue our country. it's already working. eight weeks later after it was passed, but parts of the bill are still getting under way. here is one example. i know you all know this, but it's worth repeating. state and local governments have to balance their budgets.
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as a consequence of this pandemic, revenues are way down in cities and states. they have had had to lay off 1.6 million employees. that's an awful lot of firefighters, police officers, sanitation workers, essential workers. later this month we will distribute the first assistant from the american rescue plans. we won't get all 1.6 million of those jobs back in one month, but you will see those state jobs starting to come back. starting this month we will also deliver assistance to tens of thousands. every republican in their home state is talking about this being a good idea, tens of thousands of restaurants across the country. the majority of jobs that have come back have been in those industries.
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we are going to help child centers across the country accelerate reopening and that's underway. that will continue to improve. today's report makes clear thank goodness we passed the american rescue plan. help is here and more help is on the way and is needed. second, today's report is rebuttal. the loose talk that americans just don't want to work. i know some employers are having trouble filling jobs. but what this report shows is that there is a much bigger problem not with standing the commentary you might have heard this morning. it is that our economy still has 8 million fewer jobs than when this pandemic started. more workers are looking for jobs and many can't find them. well, jobs are coming back, but
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there are still millions of people looking for work. most middle class, working class people think the way my dad did -- i know i am repeating myself but i am going to continue to because it's critical -- he would say a job is a lot more than a paycheck, joey, it's about your respect, dignity. it's about being able to look a child in the eye and say, honey, it's going to be okay. i have never for gotten that, those folks i grew up with. i think about that every day as president. they didn't have a lot of money, but they busted their whole lives to take care of families. all they wanted was a fair shot of making it. last month there were 266,000 more americans looking for a job. there are millions of americans
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out there who through no fault of their own have been knocked flat on their back. the virus stole their job. i am determined to give theme fighting chance. that's why i have been so focused on vaccinating the nation. that's why we fought so hard to pass the american rescue plan. the american rescue plan was for the whole year. it plays out over a whole year and is working. we can't let up. this jobs report makes that clear. we have too much work to do. the american rescue plan is just that, a rescue plan. it is to get us back to where we were. but that's not nearly enough. we have to build back better. that's why we need the american jobs plan i proposed, to put us in a position to build back better, to reclaim our position as the leading and most innovative nation in the world.
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we need to rebuild the nation's roads and bridges and highways and airports. we have water systems all over the country that need repair. there are over 400,000 schools and day care centers with lead pipes where the water goes through. 10 million homes. i saw a water project system yesterday in new orleans that was over 80 years old. it's in need of major overhaul. if they don't get it fixed, new orleans itself is in real trouble. they need reliable, affordable internet throughout the country. our businesses need to compete worldwide. our communities need to compete and make their own judgments as to when to buy and sell. our kids need to succeed in school. as my wife jill says, any nation that outeducates us is going to
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outcompete us. 12 years of education in 2021 is not enough to compete in the 21st century. in my view we need 16 years of public education guaranteed. from preschool for 3 and 4-year-olds to two years of community college after high school. we have serious decisions to make and fundamental choices. how much better off is the country if we have tens of thousands of graduating seniors from high school and beyond going to get two years of community college. doesn't that increase our capacity significantly? this month's job numbers show we are on the right track. we still have a long way to go. my laser focus is on growing the nation's economy and creating jobs. my laser focus is on
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vaccinating. my laser focus is on one more thing, making sure that hard working people in this country are no longer left out in the cold. they are going to get a share of the benefit. it has been a long time since that happened. i call my plan the blue-collar blueprint for america. that's exactly what it is. let's not let up. we are still digging our way out of a deep hole. no one should underestimate how tough this battle is. we still have a job to do in washington. people are counting on us. let's build an economy that delivers dignity and gives everybody a chance. i'm confident we can do this because there is nothing beyond the capacity of the american people. thank you, god bless you and god
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protect our troops. >> do you believe enhanced unemployment benefits have a diminished effect on returning to work? >> nothing measurable. >> you walked up to the podium with your mask on. why do you choose to wear a mask so often when you are vaccinated and are around other people vaccinated. >> i am worried about you. that's a joke. because it's good policy to wear a mask when i'm inside. lots of times i forget to put my mask on because i am used to not wearing it outside. >> are you concerned about vladimir putin with troops on the border of ukraine? does this impact your one-on-one
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meeting? >> no. and he has less troops than he had a month ago. >> do you think they are serious about negotiations in vienna? >> yes, but how serious we have yet to see. >> will you be meeting vladimir putin in june? >> we don't have a specific time or place. that's being worked on. thank you very much. >> welcome back. you were listening to president biden talking about that jobs report that turned in a lower than expected jobs than we were hoping for. joining me now is stephanie rule, jason firman, and the
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founder of girls who code and the marshal plans for mom. kelly o'donnell was in the room questioning the president about this. kelly's question was the one -- and you heard the president reference commentary and the way it was discussed. she asked him expanded unemployment benefits, do they impact the way americans get back to work. the chamber of commerce is lobbying to end those benefits. what did you hear and what do you want to underscore from the president's speech? >> she asked the question to ask. the president made it clear. there are more and more calls to this administration. you heard it from the chamber of commerce, to end this expanded unemployment, that extra $300
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kicker. we are hearing from businesses the reason people are not going back to work is because they are getting paid more to stay at home. it is only in the short-term. it runs out in september. there are people getting more money, but the answer is not stop giving them that money. when the administration decided what to give for expanded unemployment, they decided what people need to survive. perhaps this is the call to action to raise the federal minimum wage or what is happening naturally slowly, wages are increased. you saw $39 billion go to child care and $28 billion go to food services. when that makes its way through the system, lots of restaurants will be able to hire more.
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lots of moms didn't go back to work because that hasn't been secured. so while the president is pushing off the report saying it is not a big deal. it is one month. economic recovery doesn't go in one single road. rather than significant this is disappointment, what it is is a gap. it is great there are so many open jobs and people are not returning. we need to figure out why are they not returning and what do we need to do to get them there. biden's bottom line was we are not getting rid of that extra $300 and if people need it, we will give it to them. >> jason, let's stick big picture for a moment.
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the president was saying what we saw in this report makes his overall policies argument stronger, that we need more money infused into the economy. that while we are making progress, it is not happening as fast as some people expected it would. do you buy that? is that how you see it as well? >> the most important message the president has and one i agree with, these numbers bounce around month to month. we don't expect the economy to be put back together in a single month. covid cases were up in april. things have gotten better in the last month and will get better in the next month or two. i think we are going to see a big improvement. i am not panicking at all about this. >> jason, don't you think it's about time for the
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administration to truly acknowledge this gap? they continue to punt when we keep asking. the president said we don't see any of this data people are not going back to work. the data is backward looking and businesses are opening day in and day out. talk to any business in any town and they will tell you they can't find workers. it's a little tough that the white house continues to not address it. >> the biggest issue is labor supply and people not work. there were record numbers of job openings, record wage growth for production nonsupervisory since the 1980s. the labor market has a lot of jobs. it's a question of reentering. the biggest factor is probably lack of safety. child care and schools is probably another factor.
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i think the unemployment benefits is another factor. i think it will make less sense to subsidize unemployment. >> i want to zero in on the conundrum of child care. if we paid minimum wage to care workers at home, they would have earned $1 trillion. no one to take care of children in a safe way, schools are still shut. this is not something that will be solved overnight. many policy proposals are aimed at trying to fix this gap that was so dramatically exposed during the pandemic. >> in this jobs report 165,000
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left the workforce but 355,000 men entered it. all parents are not treated equally. moms are doing the home-schooling and care taking. they are being forced to supplement their paid labor for unpaid labor. that's why we have to pass the american families plan. motherhood is a job plain and simple. at the start of this pandemic, 54% of the workforce were women. >> it's mother's day this weekend and we noticed this plan for moms, the organization you work on. you have a new campaign that underscores the struggle moms have been going through. let's take a look at it and we will talk about it.
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>> the $800 billion mother's mother'sday bouquet. you can get a bouquet saying thanks for saving america's [ bleep ]. thanks for doing this work. >> what is the most important piece that has been offered? >> i think it's affordable child care and paid leave. don't give me roses or a card, fix child care in this society that is broken. moms don't work for free. so many of us feel unseen,
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uncompensated. we need a national reckoning to change our culture into changed social norms. i hope this mother's day we take that into perspective and ask ourselves what are you going to do to change it, because i want to finish this fight once and for all. >> jason, what are your thoughts about what the summer looks like as we start to reopen? and we are not necessarily reopen yet. people in new york will hit it on may 19th. what impact will that have on these numbers? >> i think we will see a hot summer. this is a rearview mirror. things are better than when these data were collected. i expect them to be better over the summer. the tricky thing for the economy
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is businesses are already trying to hire workers. we will need them to post more job openings and workers are going to want to come back and get jobs. we will need them to be added by businesses and workers to want to start working and both of them to line up. there will be months that look scary and months that look fantastic. it probably has a good ending at the end of all of it. >> fingers crossed. >> stephanie, if you are a small business, how are things looking especially in the context of the biden plan. some of the proposed tax hikes could potentially hit small business owners depending how they earn money. what is your sense of the questions around that proposal and how things are looking through the summer? >> small businesses, those that have survived, because we have
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lost tens of thousands over the last year, they are thrilled that regulations are being lifted and that they can get back to business. the biggest issue is struggling to hire workers. it is not just about this expanded unemployment. we saw people who worked for small businesses move to wear houses, amazon, and more. those businesses are booming. if you are looking to come back, you want to pay more, but you don't have the volume of an amazon or walmart. so we could continue to see them struggle despite the fact they made it through the pandemic. >> kelly is on the north lawn.
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you heard her questioning the president a few moments ago. kelly, we mentioned your first question to him about the economy. since our panel has laid that out, you followed up with a question about ukraine. andrea mitchell is on her way back from there after she interviewed the secretary of state. explain what you thought you learned from the president on the foreign policy front. >> we are all waiting for confirmation that president biden will have a desire to meet with vladimir putin when he goes to europe. at the same time we know that vladimir putin has amassed troops along the ukrainian border. my question was is the fact
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those troops are there a message to you, mr. president, and would it affect your willingness to have that one-on-one meeting. president biden said that putin has reduced the troops in total and said he doesn't believe that will have an impact. he believes that will happen, but that they don't have a date and location. putin would probably feel more comfortable in eastern europe than in western europe where the united states and allies would be meeting. that would be in the first year of president biden's year in office, and would show
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welcome back. breaking news from minneapolis. a federal grand jury has indicted four police officers in an indictment. derek chauvin was indicted in this case and a second case.
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pete, what can you tell us about these charges? >> these are federal civil rights charges. chauvin for what he did to george floyd. all four for failing to give george floyd's neck and two for not stopping chauvin from putting his knee on his neck. there is a second charge against derek chauvin for a differentins kent. -- incident. this was in 2017 when a mother called to say her two children were assaulting her. according to court documents he struck a 14-year-old twice in the head with a flashlight and held his knee on his back for 17 minutes. that's a second count for
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chauvin. three of four have already had appearance by video conference before a judge. so these indictments were returned yesterday and unsealed today. now the question is, what will the government do and when will it seek to bring the charges. will it wait until the state finishes its charges? my guess would be yes, but we haven't heard one way or another. >> pete williams, thanks so much, as always, for the update. and now which way is the gop leaning. lindsey graham saying president trump is still the party's future. >> i would say to my republican colleagues, can we move forward
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without president trump? the answer is no. i have always liked liz cheney, but she has made a determination that the republican party can't grow with president trump. i've determined we can't grow without him. >> it will be on full display today. matt gaetz and majorie taylor greene will make their first stop at the villages in florida. wow. thank you all for being here. i know i have been to several campaign events at the villages. it is a popular spot, especially for republicans. what brings gaetz and taylor
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greene there today? >> it's a rite of passage for any political reporter and for any politician as well. a must-stop for any conservative. there is a plethora of older voters, mostly republicans. so this is the america first tour which is a fund-raising tour for their joint fund-raising committee. what they are electing to do is show deep loyalty to the former president and call out the members of the party who don't show that loyalty, specifically liz cheney, who as we know is em battled up in washington. representative gaetz gives a preview of what he is likely to
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say, saying that cheney is a relic of the republican party of the past. he also knocks leader mccarthy. there is no love lost between them. they are not particularly close. we shouldn't read too much into his position, but the fact that he does call out mccarthy is a sign that no matter what mccarthy does, even boot one of the leaders of his membership team shows that he has a difficult line to walk and how he can win the support wing of the party despite his continuing to try. >> former president trump and the party has shown no willingness to forgive any single mistake. brendan, let me go to you. we are watching mccarthy trying
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to get back into trump's good graces after making a call to him saying to call off his people. and saying he was responsible for the insurrection. even if they win back the majority, president trump has shown a complete willingness to cut people loose like with mike pence. >> it is a one-way street with him. if he feels slighted, he will not forget it. kevin mccarthy has made the decision that the road to the speakership goes through mar a lago because president trump is capable of screwing things up.
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democrats control the senate because trump told people that their vote doesn't count and they shouldn't come out. he has decided at any cost, and in this case throwing overboard liz cheney, he is going to try to keep him happy. they have made a determination that they can't win without him. >> it's so hard for me to understand how mccarthy is looking at this and saying it will be enough. ashley, you wrote about this litmus test question in "the washington post" talking about the big lie and your take that it being an unofficial litmus test, and loyalty being the only
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question at hand. how do you think this applies to mccarthy. >> i have a bit of new reporting. he has made the decision that all roads lead through mar a lago. some friends are telling him he shouldn't support mccarthy if he takes back the house, that he should hold his support because if they do take back the house it is because of donald trump. trump-allies, at the end of the day trump likes to back a winner. if the republicans take back the house in 2022 that will likely be mccarthy. at the end of the day it's hard to envision trump would not support him. but it's that disloyalty, or
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one-way street of loyalty where mccarthy is contorting himself. >> i would like you to react, that donald trump may pull the rug out from mccarthy no matter how many times he tries to go back to the well. >> you need the votes. with matt gaetz, there will be a handful of conservatives who will try to make life hell and extract promises from mccarthy in trying to get the 218 votes. i think if the republicans win majority mccarthy will be speaker. winning solves a lot of
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right now the hopes for any bipartisan compromise on a new infrastructure bill rests in the hands of president biden and shelly moore cipito. >> is there room for the republican offer to go up or do you see this as a one-phrase
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negotiation? >> i would rephrase whether the president is going to be coming down. i think it's more narrowing his focus. i read closely what he has said. he has been encouraging in his conversations to narrow the focus. so the question, will we come up? this is our first offer. we need to see what he comes back with. >> and derek is in harpers ferry, west virginia. it sounds like senate republicans are still willing to reconsider their final offer, come up? how optimistic were you after this conversation that we may see some bipartisan compromise? >> i think the senator made it clear that the offer on the table is not their final offer and she is willing to negotiate with the biden administration in
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good faith. there is a lot of feeling out the other side to make sure they are serious and not just dragging this out for show. they need the investment for like the highway, and broad band. we experienced it yesterday driving back and forth across the state. i think the hangups are senate republicans want to call the president's bluff about things in the package not traditional, like the elder care, green provisions. they want to see if the president is willing to talk about what they consider to be structural infrastructure. and the bigger part to getting it done is the pay force. she is clear on that 21% is the
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number that will work for corporate taxes. but they don't want to start down a slippery slope on tax increases especially when the tax cut was their biggest achievement of the last four years. >> i think she has been bold and truthful to liz cheney. i applaud her. she is a friend of mine more on the political side. i think that we need to make sure as we are moving into 2022 that we don't start narrowing the tent which is what i think this will do. >> this is what i was going to ask you about. you did talk to her about liz cheney. what did you hear?
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>> that answer so newsy, it played itself in a control room. you rarely see that. i asked her about liz cheney. i tried to make it a forward looking question. what's happening with liz cheney, do you see this as evidence there is any room left in the republican party for people who want donald trump to be part of the past and not part of the future. she is personally friends with liz cheney. we heard from some of the house republicans who defended cheney back in february, that there needs to be room in the party for people who have every opinion about donald trump, not just the opinion of the house leadership and perhaps cheney's successor has settled on. how do you convince a broad swath of america, even those turned off by president trump
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but might identify otherwise as conservatives or republicans, that there is room for then back in the tent if this is what the party is doing now. i think this is a fear we hear across the country. >> for sure. it is trump is former because he lost. garrett haake, very much. great reporting as usual. let's go to texas. after an all night fight in the state legislature, the new restrictive voting bill is one step closer to becoming law. the bill passed in the austin statehouse at 3:00 in the morning. the vote comes less than 24 hours after governor desantis enacted a similar bill in florida, despite an outcry from voting rights advocates. priscilla thompson is in austin with the latest. what changed in this bill because of democrats fighting through the night to try to make changes to it?
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>> reporter: democrats were able to get 18 of their proposed amendments into that bill last night. this includes lowering the criminal penalties that were originally proposed in this law. they were also able to make it possible for disruptive poll workers to be removed from a polling site. and they cut the provision that would have required folks helping voters at the polls, if they needed extra assistance, to have to disclose why that person needed help. while those things are changing, there are also a lot of things in this bill that are staying the same. it would still be a crime to distribute unsolicited vote by mail applications. there are also still those extra protections in place for those partisan poll watchers. advocates here saying that even with those amendments, this is far from a win. >> priscilla thompson in texas, thanks very much for your
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reporting. we appreciate it. let's go now to coronavirus. nationwide, americans are seeing a light at the end of the tunnel in the covid-19 pandemic. cases are at their lowest levels in seven months. the seven-day average under 75,000. driving down the numbers is the vaccination campaign. pfizer announces they are set to apply for full fda approval. in the sign of better days ahead, fans returning to stadiums with the braves set to open up at 100% capacity and offering vaccines at the gate. still, vaccine hesitancy is a major hurdle, nowhere more so than wyoming where cases are rising. joining me is cal perry in cheyenne, wyoming. it's a hardship assignment to be out there in beautiful wyoming. of course, a difficult story in that this is the center of vaccine hesitancy. what are officials dealing with there? >> reporter: it's a hard assignment because this is a
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rural, beautiful place, adding to the vaccine hesitancy. people think, i'm not going to be around people. i live on a ranch. i don't need the vaccine. that's something that people here talk about. the other thing that's going on is i think people are aware the folks who wanted the vaccine have gotten it. now it's about reaching those people who maybe are on the fence. we see this across the country, not just in wyoming, but across america. listen to what the county health official told us about his strategy in reaching people. >> there's one group that is totally dead set against it. you are not going to convince them. there's another group that just has some hesitation. they may not be sure that it's fully safe. they may have heard misinformation about it. with good information you can ultimately bring a lot of those people on board, too. >> reporter: that mention of misinformation i think is vitally important. we are talking to people out here, one thing clear, folks on the fence or don't want the vaccine are looking for an excuse not to get it.
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in this country, we are living in a very divisive media landscape. turn on fox, hear one reality about the vaccine. turn on msnbc or cnn and hear something different. folks are tuning in to what they want to hear. people who don't want the vaccine are looking for evidence they shouldn't get it. the key is reaching the people that are on the fence, trying to get those numbers up. that same county official told us there's an easy way to reach herd immunity. the easy way is vaccines. the hard way is people have to get sick. >> perhaps politicians may not be the best messengers on this. is this about getting the shots into local doctors' offices? who do people trust? >> reporter: i think local officials are a better ask than national officials. politicians here in wyoming -- i am telling our viewers something they know right now. politics are very upside down in wyoming. the local officials, local county officials, maybe it's a
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local librarian, getting the word out is very important. the voice that it comes from is key here in convincing people on the fence to get the vaccine. >> are health officials planning on using mobile units or different ways to distribute the vaccine considering how rural wyoming is. >> reporter: yeah. trying to get the word out. the other thing that's interesting is because you have so many rural areas in colorado, borders wyoming, people from colorado are coming here to cheyenne to get the vaccine. the vaccines -- we heard the biden administration talk about moving vaccines around the country. not happening yet, because in this rural part of the country, so many folks are flowing into cheyenne, whether from colorado or the north in places like montana, people are coming here to get the vaccine. that's something that officials are happy about. they hope that will continue. we visited a center yesterday that was empty. here in cheyenne, it was before the lunch rush we were told would happen. again, there was almost nobody there. it gives you an idea i think again that reminder that the people who wanted the vaccine
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here have gotten it. >> cal perry, thank you very much for your reporting. we appreciate it. that does it for "andrea mitchell reports." andrea will be back monday. follow the show online on facebook and twitter. don't go anywhere. chuck todd is up next with "mtp daily" only right here on msnbc. . if you love it, spoon it. ♪ your favorite candy flavors twisted, ♪ chopped or layered into cool, creamy desserts that are made to spoon. new colliders desserts. find them near the refrigerated pudding. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high you know how i feel ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing]
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