it's good to see you. i'm jeff bennet in for my friend katy tur. as we come on the air, we're following a lot of breaking news this friday. a major new development today in the house of republican reckoning, liz cheney doing battle over the big lie. also the expected boom that was a bust. we have a new jobs report that many economists are describing as shocking. jobs added but far, far fewer than expected. what exactly is going on? well, part of the explanation ties directly into what is now more than just a worrying trend. first the good news. pfizer today has started the process of applying for full fda approval of its covid vaccine beyond the emergency authorization it was granted back in december. but here's the bad news. far fewer people are getting vaccinated every day than even just a couple weeks ago. president biden's goal is 70% of

americans with at least one shot by july 4th. look, if we can't get shots into arms, we can't get back to normal. that means not only a disruption to our daily lives, it also means fewer kids in school, fewer people in offices, fewer people in restaurants, and that all means fewer jobs added back. >> there is no doubt that many people still have questions about the vaccines, and that's why we will continue to work hard to ensure that people get science-based information from voices they know and trust. it's also true that vaccine competence is only one piece of the puzzle. the barriers to getting vaccinated fall into three main categories, vaccine confidence, motivation and access. >> some states have started basically bribing people to get the shot. west virginia is offering $100 each to young people who get vaccinated. new jersey is offering up free beer. but it's going to take lot more than bribery to convince people

who are downright resistant to getting vaccinated. some states in the blue areas are having tremendous success in maine, connecticut. more than 40% of people there are fully vaccinated. but in wyoming just 20% of adults are fully vaccinated and many vaccine sites are virtually empty. that's where we find nbc news correspondent in wyoming, steve kornacki who is at his big board. we also have the dean of brown university dr. jah, and medical contributor dr. vin gupta. steve, we'll start with you, my friend. 40% of americans need to get vaccinated by july 4th. where are we on this vaccination push? >> a couple different categories so you can see. this is at least one dose here. this is the total population of

the united states. this is everybody, 45% right now with at least one dose of the vaccine. now, obviously, this has not been targeted towards kids yet. this has been about getting adults so far, at least, vax -- vaccinated. that number sitting at 57% of adults in this country with at least one dose. if you look at the most vulnerable populations, senior citizens, 65-plus, that number is up to 83%. this is at least one dose. if you take the next step and look at fully vaccinated, 33%, one in three in this country are fully vaccinated. now over 40% of adults fully vaccinated. 7 in 10 senior citizens are also fully vaccinated at this point. you see here, jeff, you mentioned this decline for over a month now. you can see a decline in terms of the number of doses administered each day. i think one other thing to note

that's happened in this period as well, look at the different vaccine types. my eyes are drawn to this one, that johnson & johnson vaccine. here's where they put that pause on it, if you remember, and then it was reinstated not long after. demand for that johnson & johnson vaccine is not exactly surging even after that pause was lifted. it makes you wonder, certainly, the long-term effects of people just absorbing that headline back then. >> yeah. absolutely. and, dr. jah, some of this is hesitancy, some of it is resistance, but there is also what you could call indifference, people who have no problem getting the vaccine, but they're focused on going to work, they're focused on taking care of their kids. president biden announced a plan to switch from large vaccine sites to having more availability at pharmacies, but do we need to do more than that? do we need to have people going door to door with vaccines in backpacks, for instance? >> jeff, thanks for having me on. i think we need an all of the above strategy. we need vaccines at work sites,

we need vaccines at school sites, especially once kids are back and kids can get vaccinated. we're going to try everything, and certainly vaccines in doctors' offices can be very, very important because that's where a lot of the confidence is. i do think a lot of americans are perfectly fine to get it, they're not itching to get it, and they'll have a hard time maybe taking time off of work, et cetera. we have to make it as easy as possible. that has to be the next frontier in the hope to get americans vaccinated against this deadly disease. >> dr. gupta, i'd like to get your thoughts on the same question. what more can be done, should be done, do you think? >> jeff, i completely agree with dr. jah. i would say i think the signal that pfizer is signaling for full approval will be really helpful when we're messaging to younger people. what i keep hearing is, hey, doc, this feels like an experimental vaccine. what are the long-term side effects? can we trust it?

this is going to be an important signal here as we reach more and more people. as dr. jah mentioned, i think the majority of americans are reachable, even if they're waiting to see what their friends are doing or waiting a few additional months. we can reach enough people to get them vaccinated to get them back to a normal path. >> cal perry, over to you in wyoming. what are you seeing and hearing from folks there about why the vaccination rate is so low, and what are they doing to change that? >> all of the things that the guests are mentioning here are in play here. the j&j pause, i think, hurt things here in wyoming. it gave people who were on the fence a reason not to get it. if people are looking for a reason not to get it, they can find it pretty easily. you don't have to go obscure corners of the world anymore. you can flip to fox news to find a reason not to get the vaccine. what you have is county officials trying to concentrate on the folks who are on the fence. two pieces of sound for you, jeff. the first is that county

official on that strategy. the second is one who was resistant to getting the vaccine but did, anyway. take a listen. >> there is one group totally dead set against it and you're not going to convince them, but there is another group that has some hesitation, they have some questions, they may not be sure that it's fully safe. they may have heard some misinformation about it. with good information you can ultimately bring a lot of those people on board, too. >> how did you come to the decision to get vaccinated? >> it's going to happen more forced than anything, and working at the data center it's kind of -- i'm sure sooner or later it's going to be the way they're wanting to go that is either you're vaccinated or you don't work and you don't travel. >> so you felt like it was inevitable you had to do it? >> yes. >> reporter: so the two things health officials are going to focus on in the coming months

are convincing people who are on the fence to get that vaccine and to combat the misinformation, to try to get the correct information out there to folks on the ground. if we can give people time off of work -- it's a major concern. people are worried about the effects of the virus. people don't want to miss work and a lot of people can't miss work. that is something at play here also, jeff. >> dr. gupta, our team found that the "new york times" did a deep dive on skepticism. people say that politics isn't the leading driver of their vaccine attitudes. the most common reason for their apprehension is fear that the vaccine was developed in haste, that long-term side effects are unknown. their decisions are also entangled in a web of views about bodily autonomy. plus a powerful, regional somewhat romanticized image. as a doctor, how do you overcome all of that? >> jeff, it's something dr. jah

mentioned, but this mass messaging campaign, i think, is somewhat helpful, but it's really the direct engagement i found to be most effective in reaching people who have those serious questions. it's getting vaccines into doctors' offices, to people individuals trust. that's going to be vital, to answer these questions one on one to the effect that that's actually feasible and practical. >> if we kind of plateau where we are right now in terms of folks getting the vaccine, and potentially adolescents will come on line and the vaccine will be made available for adolescents, where would we end up, do you think? >> yeah, so what i'm worried about, jeff, we're going to have patchwork nation. we're going to have people like new england where i am where 70% of adults have already gotten their first shot. once you add kids, that will add more immunity, and new england may reach the point where effectiveness numbers get really, really low. but there will be places like mississippi and louisiana that have much lower rates of

vaccination. they may have much higher infection rates for many, many months to come if we don't make progress. i don't want that patchwork. it's not good for anyone in america, so we really have to pull together to get more people vaccinated. >> all right. dr. jah, vin gupta, cal perry, thank you. do the advocates have any way of fighting it. matt gaetz is trying to oust liz cheney saying, we must do better. and the april jobs report with worse numbers than we expected. >> this month's job numbers show we are on the right track. we still have a long way to go. >> but how worried should we really be? we'll talk about it, coming up

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the economy. some analysts are point to go -- pointing to disappointing returns as expanded unemployment benefits, while many note that many of the new jobs come from the hospitality industry where anecdotal reports keep saying we should be seeing that lack of disposable workers. white house correspondent peter baker and host of the political money podcast, ben white. ben, we'll start with you. i'm no economist, but i know enough to know that one jobs report does not the whole story tell. what do you make of this latest report? is this an outlier, do you think? >> it's impossible to know that until we get a couple subsequent reports. one, it stinks. as you noticed, we're looking for a million jobs added this month, so well below expectations. but these things happen.

we do get outliers. peter will remember in august 2011 when we were coming out of the recession, we got a low number, and then it got better. we'll get back to bigger numbers, but it does suggest perhaps that there is this labor shortage, perhaps there are issues with expanded unemployment insurance. it's not clear and obvious that's the case, but i make one other quick point, and that is it's not the worst thing in the world for biden because he can say, look, we're not doing as well as we hoped to do, which is why we have to spend for this plan. >> peter, the treasury secretary, janet yellen, she was in the briefing room today, as you know. she told our own kelly mcdonnell, yes, the white house was surprised by that report. take a look at this. >> were you surprised by the number and how much of a change

would you anticipate as the summer season and the reemergence continues? >> if i had had to write down a number as my best guess, it would have been higher. but i've watched data for a long time, and i know that it is extremely volatile. there are often surprises and temporary factors, and one should never take one month's data as an underlying trend. >> so, peter, how will the biden administration use this jobs report to make a more convincing argument for the next $4 trillion in spending that the president is calling for? >> yeah, i think that ben is right about this. the debate up until now has been if we continue to spend trillions of dollars at a time the economy was already poised for launch, it was already roaring on its own, all we would do is superheat it and maybe go too far. we might trigger inflation, we might not need all that spending. now biden is going the other way around saying, we do need that

spending. the republicans will hear the other argument saying these disappointing jobs reports mean that they're reacting to the tax proposal. every party is going to use these numbers to suit his own political argument at this point. in addition to that, just to keep things in context, 266,000 is far below what people wanted, far below what they expected. it's still larger than any jobs number we saw for the first three years of the trump administration except for two different months. the reason why 266,000 is so disappointing is because we're still so far below where we had another peak. we're still 8 million jobs below where we were when the pandemic began. if we average out the first five months, it will take us until late next year to get us back to where we were in february of 2020, and that feels like a slower, you know, bounce-back than we had expected.

>> and, peter, in some ways this also supports the president's push to raise the minimum wage. if you want people to go back to work, why don't you pay them more? >> right, exactly. if the argument on the part of the employers is we can't find workers because they would rather stay at home and collect these checks from the government, then the argument from the flip side is you need to pay an incentive to make them come back to work, a minimum wage that makes them pass up their enhanced unemployment benefits. whether that would work, i don't know, but it will supercharge them about why biden hasn't made a push to get those numbers up. >> the republican national committee said, the numbers don't lie. this is the biggest miss on a

jobs report. >> janet yellen says we shouldn't look at just one month. they're worried about it. they're worried, as ben says, that this is more of an indicator than an outlier. if it's an indicator, this could be a telling number. in the biden administration, they thought there would be a quicker bounce-back from the great recession. they're disappointed that the recovery summarists are worried they'll see that again. you're right they'll use this to repel their argument about more spending and that we'll be brought to 12 years ago. >> in the "new york times," she said millions of americans said health care concerns and child

responsibilities with many schools and daycares not back to normal operations have prevented them from returning on work. millions of others who are not job hunting are on temporary layoff and are expected to be hired back from their previous employers once more businesses reopen fully. to what extent do you think folks are oversimplifying things when they talk about a potential labor shortage, ben? >> i think there are good points to be made about a lack of portable child care, the fact that there are particularly women who would like to go back to work, can't make it financially right now. you saw senator warren use this in the family plan, including free pre-k and we saw the numbers today that we've seen some gains of women in the work force that really took a big hit during covid given the child

care responsibility that they have, so on the democrats' side, the women who want to go back to work can't because they still have children at home. there is also the truth that maybe the unemployment benefits are keeping people from going back to work. i don't want to both sides it or be like the two-handed economist in this. that's why we'll wait for the may report and see if this is repeated. if it is, then we have a real policy problem and we have to figure out what it is and what the answers are. if it's not, then we go back to 800 or 900 jobs and we all forget about it and this is an outlier. frankly, we don't have that answer yet. >> thanks to the both of you. after lawmakers pulled an all-nighter, republicans advanced new voting restrictions in texas. what does it mean for voters in

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congressional maga superstars matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene are making a first stop on what they're calling america first tour. they are trying to put the gop in the former president's image. gaetz is adding to the chorus of voices for cheney to be kicked out of her leadership over her criticism of donald trump's lies over a stolen election. they write, quote, we must inspire americans to again rally to the american first principles president trump so movingly brought to our politics and we must do better than liz cheney. that's what they say. joining us now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell. leigh ann, we'll start with you.

your trips are always more colorful adventures. tell us about this american first tour. what are we expecting tonight? >> reporter: hey, jeff. let's start with what the villages is. it's a retirement community that has 100,000 people living here. they're mostly conservative, so this has become a stomping ground for folks who try to gain votes and gain money. this is a first stop for representative marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz who are launching the america first joint fundraising committee. they do expect to raise money out of this visit. from an optic standpoint, they're also going to show their deep loyalty to the president. you can expect them to take a victory lap now that representative liz cheney is likely to be removed from her leadership position. but you can also expect to hear them talk about the former --

the past election in 2020 and regurgitate the lies and the falsehoods leading into that election that was outlined in representative gaetz' op-ed that he released today in a pro-trump outlet, jeff. >> david jolly, based on all evidence, america first, you left the gop. last night senator lindsey graham said on fox he doesn't see a future of the gop without trump in it. take a listen to this. >> can we move forward without president trump? the answer is no. i've always liked liz cheney but she made a determination that the republican party can't grow with president trump. i've determined we can't grow without him. >> so what's your read? is there anything in the republican party right now beyond trumpism? >> no, my read is lindsey graham sees a valueless gop, because if

it comes to the convictions around elevating and celebrating the man who is donald trump instead of an idealogy in which liz cheney came up within today's republican party, then sure, the republican party can be electorally strong given its affiliation with donald trump, but it is not a party of conviction, a party of idealogy, and i think we will see the house republican conference reflect that when they move to remove liz cheney. this is an inflection point, jeff, as to what a post-trump presidency gop will look like. we now know that the gop and elected leaders in washington will continue to run towards donald trump and they intend to make the midterms a verdict on their affiliation with the past president. >> so i guess i'm confused as to

why. when has a -- republicans didn't do it after president carter, they didn't do it after president bush. what's going on in the republican party right now? >> my personal party is it's bereft of dignity. they have been willing to affiliate with a man who tried to kneecap our very public, who undermined the judiciary of the press of our security alliances with the west. he undermined our very own intelligence authority. he undermined the dig anytimety -- dignity of who we are as a people. but a party affiliation saw an opportunity to use this greedy, angry, false populism offered by donald trump, so they ran towards him and they left behind a little bit of idealogy they had left within the party. it's a reflection of the party with no dignity today, no values today, much less no ideas.

>> and carlos cabello, what's your interpretation of the party right now? >> this tour that matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene are undertaking is that it makes the choice very clear for house republicans. this is a choice between liz cheney and everything she represents and everything she knows about her and her family and their history. and the conspiracy theories and the dishonesty that some, like these two representatives, are promoting. that is the choice before republicans, whether to to follow marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz or others or whether to follow people like liz cheney. and essentially it's a choice between embracing truth and honesty and integrity versus dishonesty and conspiracy

theories and this idea of a false election, although there is no evidence to prove that. they have to make a decision whether they want to go for short-term safety or short-term gains, or whether they want to build a party that would continue to inspire the support of the majority of americans. >> what's your reaction to governor desantis signing into law on fox news exclusively yesterday the sweeping new voting restrictions? >> well, look, if you look at the details of the law, jeff, really, the changes were not of great magnitude. in florida voting is going to be pretty much as it's been for the last couple decades. we're a state where anyone can

vote by mail, no questions asked. that's certainly something we think the rest of the country should adopt. the problem with this legislation and the governor signing it in this way is the context. and the context of a lot of these election reform bills, all of them, is the big lie that donald trump told and the perception that they're being moved and passed because any of what donald trump said might be valid or true, which it is obviously not. that is the big problem. it sends a bad message. in terms of how it's going to impact voting in florida, i think the impact will actually be minimal, but the message it sends is troubling because it is a tacit endorsement of the president delegitimizing our election system. >> david jolly, leigh ann caldwell and curbelo, thank you.

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chauvin held his knee on the neck and back of the teenage girl and hit him, or hit her with a flashlight as she lay restrained and face down. texas lawmakers advanced new voting restrictions in the very early morning hours this morning after an all-night fight in the state house. they passed in a party line vote at 3:00 a.m. after a marathon 17 hours of questions and amendments from texas democrats. they tried to slow down a bill they didn't have the power to stop. election officials encourage voting by mail that is not headed to the governor's desk just yet. first there will be a final reading happening right now when hb-6 is reconciled with its counterpart. there are just two of 100 restrictive bills introduced by republicans across the country in response to donald trump's false claims that he won the

2020 election. joining me right now is "nbc news now" correspondent priscilla thompson. do they believe these amendments will survive once they pair their bill with the state senate version? >> well, jeff, that's the fundamental question at this point. my colleagues inside the chamber tell me that the speakers are wrapping up now and a final vote on this is imminent, so it is barrelling towards that reconciliation process. we expect that that is going to be done in a conference committee which means that republicans at that point will have an opportunity to add back in some of those more restrictive measures that are still in the senate version of this bill, and they could also cut some of those amendments that were made on the house side in order to consolidate this into one bill.

i've spoken to advocates here who say that these amendments are not a win and they don't have a whole lot of faith in that reconciliation process, and apparently neither do house democrats. take a listen to what was just said on the house floor moments ago. >> we're going to fix a problem that doesn't exist. that's what we're doing here. so representative kane, you have your vote, you have your majority. but guess what? i look forward to seeing you in federal court. what i know from my days of voting rights in this chamber, you may have the vote today, but we are all equal in federal court. and history is on our side. >> reporter: that is a message being echoed by voting rights advocates here who tell me all options are on the table, and this as we expect that if and when that bill does make it to governor abbott's desk, he will

sign it into law. jeff? >> myrna, as we've reported before, there are 60 bills in 46 states. none of them have been considered yet by the state houses, but which laws and which bills in which states give you the greater amount of concern? >> i think we need to be mindful about what these laws in toto are suggesting. it is a clear backlash against an unprecedented turnout. we had americans say very clearly in the 2020 election that they care about voting. they are willing to brave a once in a century pandemic. what we see legislatures doing is going in, and instead of looking at ways we can make our elections more accessible, they're trying to put up barriers. one of the things that is pernicious in texas, they

stopped pretended they're trying to fix anything. they're looking at future elections. what does that future election look like? different demographics, different political wins, one which puts the leaders of texas legislature right now in job security peril. and that is not what we should be using our legislative process for. our legislative process should not be manipulated so that folks who are on the wrong side of political and demographic changes are not -- are going to be able to be guaranteed a job. this is a situation in which voters are supposed to be choosing their politicians, not the other way around. >> give us a sense. is this a coordinated, collaborative effort among republicans in these many state legislatures? >> there is certainly a lot of ties and information sharing that we are seeing. we are seeing many of the same kinds of tactics be introduced. there have been some organizations that have been bragging about providing

guidance and support to legislations that want to make it harder to vote. but what we do see is some anxiety over changing demographics and some anxiety that will come from these changing demographics. we see an increasing defiance on the part of politicians to avoid what it is that their voters are telling them. their voters are telling them they care about voting. they care about free, fair and accessible elections. they want it to be easier to vote. they want voting to be more convenient. they want our democracy to be more robust and inclusive. and we see politicians throwing up barriers, moving in the wrong direction and effectively ignoring what the public is telling them. >> we're looking at a live shot there on the screen of lawmakers in the texas state house voting on hb-1. a question, myrna, about the timing. it strikes me that a lot of

these legislators are part-time. many of them leave for the year in june. is that why we're seeing this push right now? >> certainly folks want to get their legislative activities done before the session ends. but the fact we're seeing these changes are coming because we had an election in which communities of all kinds showed up to vote. we saw an increased turnout among many different segments of our population, including those populations that have been traditionally marginalized or disenfranchised. i think the power of people showing up in those numbers is making people nervous. >> priscilla, i'm told you have some news. what do you have? >> that vote took place and the bill passed in the house. it passed 78-64. it's headed on its way back to the senate or to that

reconciliation conference committee that will continue making changes and get that final bill on the books here. >> and, myrna, in the seconds we have left, what happens absent federal action here if the senate isn't able to move voting rights legislation? >> we're going to see voters have to stand up for their rights to vote and expressing their desires at the ballot box. we'll see people running into federal court. we'll see counter-mobilization and counter-legislation. voters care about voting and they're going to talk to politicians in texas and georgia and florida. coming up next, garrett haake's exclusive interview with someone who says a biden plan is possible. a biden plan is possible ♪

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ferry, west virginia, is nbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. garrett, given the comments from senator mitch mcconnell on opposing the administration, how does senator capito think she can get her colleagues now to negotiate with the white house? >> reporter: nor capito has to figure out what at least a majority of the 50 republican senators would be willing to go for here, convince them to spend the money that might be necessary to do a big infrastructure package and then has to convince democrats including this white house that she is serious, and that she is a worthwhile partner on this effort, and that they should not try to go it alone through the process of reconciliation, like they did on that covid rescue bill. it is clear that mitch mcconnell's comments earlier this week were not helpful to senator capito's effort and she said as much when i asked her how would those influence her conversations with the white house. take a listen. mitch mcconnell said he's 100% focused on opposing this

president. how do i scare that with what you're trying to do? >> i've talked with the leader on the phone and i talked to him every week when i'm in washington. i just talked with him recently on friday. and he green lights -- has green lighted everything that i'm doing in terms of trying to get a coalition of leaders together, within our republican caucus to go to the white house, which we're going to be doing. i think he thinks that this is not just a laudable goal, but a must do in terms of physical infrastructure. i think where he says 100% he's focused on the, you know, dismantling the president's agenda, i think he's focusing on things. >> reporter: this is a big part of the president's agenda. >> he's talking more packing court, those kinds of things. you know, we'll see when i go to see the president next week. i have actually thought about this. and he probably reflects back to me. the leader is going to do everything 100%, why are we here? i have to beat that one down. so, you know, i think maybe he

went a little farther than i would have liked to see, in terms of while you're actually at the negotiating table. >> reporter: the bottom line for these negotiations, jeff, is the senator knows their states need this west virginia ranks at or near the bottom on almost every infrastructure category. we toured a facility trying to help step up broadband access in this state. i asked her can west virginia compete in 20 or 30 years if you don't this now? she said, no, we have to do something now. and i think finding the middle ground on that something is the whole ball game. >> yeah, well, we'll have to see what that something ends up being. garrett haake, good to see you, friend. that's it for me today. ayman mohyeldin picks up the news after this quick break. ayman mohyeldin picks up the news after this quick break.

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