opinion, is anyone in the position to understand what is going on in somebody else his heart. >> that's all for this edition of dateline, i'm craig melvin, thank you for watching. >> i'm craig melvin. >> i'm natalie morales. >> this is dateline. >> i got a phone call, something was wrong with brandy she's not moving in the car is moving. >> emergency vehicles, officers and that is as far as i could go. there is my baby and i can do anything about it. >> she was a hardworking, young wife and mom. >> sweetest girl you could ever ask to meet. >> just minutes from home when she saw the headlights.

>> somebody was telling her. >> my sister is in my driveway and her head is bloody. >> so you bury your little girl and then it's a murder destination? >> yes. >> there were two people brandi feared. one in town. >> she thought she was being followed. >> one thousands of miles away. >> josh was still in alaska. >> and then there was the new man in her life. >> anybody close to brandi we needed to take a hard serious look at. >> no state fingerprints, no dna and no arrest for years. >> you're grieving, how do you put all of that -- >> day by day. >> hints emerged of somebody's dark past. >> you have robberies going on, homicides. >> one brave woman willing to talk. >> he told me, the same thing that happened to brandi will happen to me. >> the question wasn't just who murdered the young mother, it was why? >> there was no money. there just wasn't a reason to do it. >> she didn't hurt nobody. she didn't bother anybody. why did they have to kill her?

>> hello and welcome to dateline, imagine driving on a dark, isolated road and then suddenly, there is a car behind you, it gets closer and closer, too close for comfort. is someone telling you or is your imagination in overdrive? for brandi daniel her mind was not playing tricks. someone was stalking her. then the single mother was found slumped over in her passenger sheet, shot dead. investigators would spend years navigating the twists and turns, searching for her killer. here is janice murphy with out there in the dark. >> it was a chillier than usual monday night of may 2014 as brandi daniels drove home from her shifted coals. zain's fill in eastern ohio was the kind of not too big, not too small city where you can be off the downtown grill in just

a few minutes. in out there in the dark, that is when this 25-year-old, single mom was heading. back home to her daughter waiting to be tucked in at brandi's mom's house, out in the country where she had been living. brandi had been through a rough few months, years really, but one of the big reasons things was finally turning around for her was that soothing voice on the cell phone this night, her fiancée, talking her home. >> i was just talking to her as she was walking home, trying to drive a stick shift, talking on the phone. the fiancée was craig berry, her older boyfriend. i'm a hairstylist and i've been four year. >> one day brandi walked into craig salon. >> we hit it off. >> -- >> we turned out to be really good friends. most beautiful eyes you've ever saw. >> like the song, brandi turned out to be -- and that right away attraction grew into something more

serious. >> that's my heart, immediately. it was connection look at never felt. it is getting bigger and bigger every time we talked. >> you guys were looking to get married? >> oh yes. >> molly edwards was among the people that was thrilled at greg's arrival at brandi's life. >> craig what did you think of him? >> he was very nice. he put her first. he put her first. >> growing up, brandi wasn't much for barbie dolls, but give her a sketch pad and a pencil and she was lost four hours. she loved to draw. she had a death drive for real estate portraits. >> she took every kind of port -- our class there was. >> brandi enrolled at her local college, but before her freshman year was up she left school to marry josh daniels, a part-time student she'd met. not too long after she had news for mom. >> she called me up should that

she was pregnant. >> you must of been so torn up? >> i was. that was my baby. >> brandi, husband josh and the baby daughter were living nearby. >> you couldn't ask for a better mother. if it was something that she needed, the little girl needed, the baby got it first. >> and how did grandmother like the new baby? >> the baby got everything. yeah. >> the marriage, after seven years of trying, failed. she filed for divorce. she seemed to be on the other side of a really rough patch of her life? >> yes. >> on this may night as she was driving home from work with beyoncé craig in her ear, he heard brandi start to sound edgy. >> she says, somebody was telling her. these people need to get off my butt. and then the phone went dead. i texted her, you know, what's up. about ten minutes past by and

then i culture sister and said is brandi home yet? she says no. i said her call dropped on me and she should have been coming in the door right now. she says you want me to go check. i said would you. >> brandi's kids sister headed to the drive -- to look for her. >> just a few minutes later, she calls me back but and is losing it. she was at the top of the driveway. and she says i see her car, her hit a slump down. and then she just became hysterical. >> i said i would be there. i said you need to call the cops. >> 9-1-1 your emergency? >> the center field at the call. >> my sister is in my driveway and her head is bloody and she's not moving. i just need someone to come quick, please. i'm just scared, i need someone to come now. >> stay on the line while i get the squad on the way. >> fiancée craig was on his way to. there was his girlfriend's little nissan in the driveway.

>> i pulled right behind her car and there was the sheriff there already, and i'm walking up to the car and i see her in the driver seat and i said what is wrong, and she says i think she has been shot. she was dead, that's what he told me. he >> told you that at the scene? >> yes. and stay away. you don't want to contaminate the crime scene. >> no bridge ahead, and of the abyss. >> it blew me out of the water. >> brandi's mom was just leaving the factory where she worked. >> 11:05 i've got a phone call and i went running up to the truck. they said something was wrong with brandi. >> the emergency vehicles, the officer. >> we go right into the driveway and that is as far as i could go. >> the car with the driver side window down, the vehicle stalled in first gear and brandi inside looking --

shot three times, execution style. the detectives are arriving. >> who would want brandi dead? it's always the husband, right? maybe not this time. >> coming up, josh was in fact still in alaska that night. >> but there was someone who lived right in town. >> did you wonder what was going on with the boyfriend? >> when dateline continues. n dateline continues

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driveway, lights on and two county detectives arriving to try to figure out what had happened to the young woman dead in the driver seat. detective mike ryan and steve wall core in the first minute of what would be a huge long investigation. >> mike and i arrived at the same time. >> did the scene explain itself to you? >> we could see the basics of what had happened. >> their victim brandi daniels had been shot three times at close range. crime scene techs would later recover three shell casings and a clipper in automatic pistol. brandi's person phone were beside her. >> we eliminated robbery almost immediately because there was an amount of money that someone would've taken if it was robbery. >> as the csis took their photos an estimated bullet trajectory's, gathered blood, dna, brandi's mom, sister and fiancée watched on in black horror. what do you remember about the rest of the night? >> sitting in the vehicle behind her car, just watching it. >> there's your girl, gone. >> there is my baby and i can

do nothing about it. it was 2:00, went to the house, 4:00 detectives came down to the house and said that they removed from the car. who >> would benefit from a single mom's death? of course, the question turned quickly to the soon to be divorced husband, the father of the little girl. brandi's mom told them about josh daniels. said he was a personal trainer at the gym and an obsessive weightlifter. >> when you ran into the computer what did you find, did you have priors? >> he did not. >> he was not on law enforcements radar. >> not a law enforcements radar but nonetheless, somebody they wanted to talk to right now. but there was a problem, a big one, there was every reason to believe that he wasn't in the driveway that night put 4300 miles away in alaska. josh had moved up there to be near his mom, he found work in the oil fields. >> josh, was in fact still in alaska that night. >> that's a pretty good alibi? >> yes.

>> because there's domestic terminal, it doesn't necessarily mean that you have a suspect? >> not necessarily. but it is a good idea to eliminate the husband as a suspect from the get-go. >> detective ryan called josh daniels on alaska's north slope. can you discern things like demeanor or attitude through the phone line? >> not really. i wasn't detecting shock or grief or anything like that. >> but nothing you can hang your head on ether? >> one of the questions i asked him is to have you been talking to here in zanesville and, he gave me a list about half a dozen people. >> daniels told detectives that he had returned to zanesville as soon as he could. but there was another person much close to that the cops had to figure out. craig berry the fiancée. he is the last person to have known to have talked to her? >> yes. >> did you wonder what was going on with the boyfriend, he's quite an older guy, he has 20 years on the victim? >> yes. >> so he's a person of interest until he's not, i'm guessing? >> well at that point, anybody

close to brandi, we needed to take a good serious look at. >> within hours of brandi's death, craig got the third degree. they were asking you hard questions? >> where have you been? what were you doing? >> did you think, wow they think i'm a suspect? >> oh yeah, but that is common. >> and then there's a cop in your grill? >> they asked for myself, i handed it over. >> how long did that last? i >> got home at 5:30 that morning. >> then the legwork of the investigation began in earnest, starting with where she was last seen alive. so you're talking to your victims coworker, how the picture coming together? they >> all described her as a very good, young lady, a devoted mother and in america she really wants to get out of. >> patrol officers trace the roots from coal to the murder scene, hoping to find a camera that recorded her car going home. the boyfriend story is that there is a car in the bumper, but that image doesn't show up anywhere? >> no. >> with a lab results came back,

disappointment. no useful fingerprints or dna. and the long slog of getting search warrants to recover data from the cell phone and the powers of signals bounced off of has only just begun. a few days after the murder, brandi's husband josh returned to zanesville from alaska. they met him downtown at the lawyer's office, he was fully cooperative. detectives asked for his cell phone. he >> and his attorney voluntarily turned it over. >> now you can look him in the eye and check his demeanor, what do you see? >> he was very cool, collected. he looked very confident. >> with the data from his phone on the way to the lab, josh returned to alaska with his eight-year-old daughter. molly and her family had buried their brandi. but no one was coming to terms with the magnitude of this crime. >> did the officers tell you anything about how the case would go? >> they figured that it would be summed up within a couple of days. >> if only. >> coming up. a new suspect but he has an alibi. >> i went to my girlfriend's

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shot to death in the front seat of her car in the family driveway. detectives put her fiancée craig through the wringer, but his story, including the part about his last text brandy

checked out. >> within two or three days we were sure that he was cleared. >> but craig wasn't a total dead end. the fiancée did have a tip for the detectives. he told him that he should check out of fellow jim wrath of craig daniels that gave brandi the creeps. someone with an unusual first name, sirius underwood. when they ran the name, investigators found the son of a local preacher who'd had some juvenile offenses. but in the years since had redeemed himself. he graduated from zain state got a good job with a local manufacturer in seemed to charm every woman he met. four days into the investigation, detective brady was at his girlfriend's place. >> i asked him if i could look at his cell phone, if i could take it back to the office and downloaded? he agreed to let me do that. >> how do you present? absolve >> calm. he claims he didn't know brandi was killed. just calm, cool and collected. >> serious came to the chair's

office. >> while the squad phone expert examined his cell, sirius explain how he knew his husband josh. >> we went to zain stay together. i worked out with him and stuff like that. >> he said he hardly knew brantley. >> i didn't like, meet her, i've seen her one time. >> as for his pal josh in alaska, sirius said they hadn't been in contact for a while. >> when the last time he sent you a text or called you. >> i was about two or three weeks ago. >> not this week? >> i didn't talk him this week. no. >> sirius said he was with his girlfriend at the time brandi died. >> i went to my girlfriend's house and a kind of state the night there. >> officers returned sirius iphone and thank him for coming in. wendy lemon the girlfriend, was next up on the detectives list on people to talk to. when the mother of five said she met sirius a couple of years early at the same place brandi and josh got together, zain state college. >> i knew from the moment that

i met sirius that this is a new friend. happy, always smiling. >> the midlife, cynical mom back to college and dean-less sirius were ambassadors for the school. >> we they were just looking for of phase four zane state college that was friendly and outgoing, so that we could go to different events in the community as well as giving tours on campus. >> sirius had find time to work as a security guard and that's where he met josh who did the same thing. sirius was an overachiever even featured in brokers about the college. >> wendy liked everything about him, they became a couple. >> one year for my birthday, he totally set up an entire day, skydiving. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. >> it was so amazing, so awesome. we took motorcycle rides and went on picnics. >> now wendy found herself caught in the undertow of a homicide investigation. cops had her downtown the same

day as sirius. i >> just want to let you know, you're not under arrest. okay? >> detective ryan asked about the night of the murder. he used wendy's text with sirius to refresh your memory. >> can i put it here can you see? >> oh yeah. >> may face. >> did her text that night fit in the timeline they were building up brandi's murder? and did they speak to sirius whereabouts. >> 11:00, when you type these. you are sure he was not in the house? >> yeah. >> so 11:00. >> he was not in the house. then >> sirius arrived after that 11:00 text. sirius had given when the as his alibi and she inadvertently made him samantha needed to take a closer look at. >> there was a window of opportunity where he could've done the crime? >> yes. >> the quad's phone expert -- >> he had open every news article that had to do with the homicide.

>> interesting, because earlier today he said that he didn't know that brandi was murdered. question, was serious the gunman in brandi's driveway? he seemed to be no more than a casual friend of josh is from the gym. but, when the i.t. guy's cracked josh daniels phone use history it told a different story. what had he deleted? >> a lot of text messages. >> to whom? >> to sirius underwood, he was the one that he was in contact with the most. >> what were you thinking? >> when we first talked to josh he had never mentioned sirius underwood, why would they be lying to us about that? >> why indeed? the story told by the phones, the concealed relationship fed a growing theory of the crime. that they were looking at a long distance killing between ohio and alaska. if that was the case, then technology was going to be as valuable to them as dna or bloody fingerprints. the first big question. did the killer, assuming he was a male, have a phone on him when he did the shooting? what's tower near the river scene had the phone pinned off?

>> we had tons of, and i'm not exaggerating, thousands upon thousands of phone calls, on all these various towers. >> in that electronic haystack, a sharp eyed cop notices call around the time where they believed brandi was killed. it was made from a number with a three one zero, area code. normally that is southern california. the county lawman trace that number back to end an ominous disposable phone, a burner, purchased in zanesville a week before brandi died. >> i get the call records for the 3:10 area phone, and started coming through those, and he had only called two peoples. the second burner phones was jan daniel, that was the only two. >> was that the breakthrough, the burner phone at the right time had called josh is phone in alaska. then the phone texted another extraction of josh's phone, and they retrieved something josh thought he deleted. >> a voice mail that was left

on josh daniels cell phone from this california area code. >> it would supplement, it's me, hit me up on this phone right here whenever you need to talk about something. hear me? >> the detectives ears perked up when he heard it. >> i listen to it and now i know that that phone, three, one, zero is sirius underwood. that is his voice. >> the detectives wanted a deeper dive into sirius iphone which he had returned to him. sirius came downtown again as requested. but while the cops were preoccupied searching a warrant he out fox them. he found a computer and remotely wiped his phone clean. >> when i've reached in and got sirius phone, i saw that it had been re-storage. >> whatever story he was gonna tell you weren't gonna hear it? >> there was nothing on that phone. >> pretty clever. it was like a whole evidence locker going up in smoke. the whole tech crime trail,

gone. detectives by then we're sure that sirius underwood and josh daniels were behind brandi's murder. but, could they prove it? >> we knew at that time that we had a serious problem with our evidence. we were not dead in the water but we were definitely struggling. >> coming up. a stalled case. >> are you starting to lose faith in your police, in the investigation? >> it was stressful. >> and then a threat convinces a woman to talk. >> he told me, the same thing that happened brandy will happen to me. >> what did he say happened to brandi? >> he killed her. he killed her. >> when dateline continues. when dateline continues you get fast, 24-hour relief in one drop. make it a pataday with the drop that's right for you. now without a prescription. everywhere. (man) eye contact. elbow pump. very nice, andrew. very nice. good job. next, apparently carvana doesn't have any "bogus" fees.

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it had been nearly three months since brandi daniels was shot, execution style, in the front seat of her car. brandi's a husband josh and his friend sirius underwood for the prime suspect. but sirius managed to wipe his cell phone, erasing any potential evidence police believed could tie him to the shooting. and josh had an ironclad alibi, soon though, detectives would get startling new information and it would be a game-changer. here is dennis murphy with out there in the dark. >> what is the next thing we have to do that? >> investigators were sure that they had the right guys for brandi daniels murder.

they had learned a lot about just how awful her marriage to josh was. cops found a 9-1-1 call brandi had made six months before her murder. >> police and fire. >> i'm in an abusive relationship, and i'm afraid to i tell my husband that i want to leave but he won't let me, and it gets physical. >> brandy didn't request a deputy that night but she did file a restraining order against josh when she left him. cops knew josh is buddy from the gym, sirius, was likely involved in the murder. but they just couldn't tie the two of them together despite some suspicious phone traffic between them. an additional difficulty in the investigation was the fact that josh was still living in alaska, about as far away as you could get from ohio and still be in the same country. josh daniels was starting his new chapter living about an hour outside of anchorage which

his mother and stepfather. keeping tabs on him from thousands of miles away was zanesville local police, they were seeing some patterns. when he wasn't working the job he was partying, pumping iron, chasing women. back in sings ville, the cops kept their pressure up on the person of interest they did have in their zip code. sirius underwood, the detectives were all over his girlfriend wendy. >> every time that i had a little spat, i was frustrated or disgusted with sirius, he would always show up -- and just wonder if he would remember something? >> just find a vulnerable moment? >> and he would say i had i already told you every single thing. >> brandi's mother had lost faith over finding what killed her daughter. every time we hear something, we'd contact them, still need to get more evidence, still need to get more evidence. >> but something was about to

happen and it was enormous. call it a good look from the land of the midnight sun, alaska. it was three months to the day after brandi's murder when the ohio inveswas a woman on the lie saying that she had been seen josh daniels and she had a story to tell the police, something you had told her. when detective ryan heard that he was on the plane to alaska within an hour. the young woman explained that she enjoys had been engaged at the time of brandi's death. but he had commitment issues. >> he lied all the time. he was dating multiple people at the same time. >> she had the detectives undivided attention, as she related would intoxicated josh told her on the 4th of july. >> he told me, the same thing that happened to brandi will happen to me. >> what did easing up into brandi? >> he killed her. he killed her. >> he said that -- >> yes. >> >> you remember what his

exact words were? >> he said that he killed brandy with a phone call. and i believe everything he said, that he killed her. >> if you say who killed brandi? >> he said it's a black guy, at the gym, that was in his group of people. >> it looked as though the detectives were ready to put a bow on their investigation. take the blizzard of messages between the two men, mix in the geography of the cell phone towers and the burner cell phone tied to sirius and now add in the story from the woman of alaska. and you should be ready to swear out an arrest warrant. when the detectives got back to ohio, their first stop was at the offices attorney, they come to you and say are we there yet? >> yes. >> and you're saying no. >> i wanted to make sure that before we take the case to grand jury that we had a motive. obviously in the case of josh

daniels, the husband, we had a motive. marriages breaking up, he had been violence with her in the past. >> but he was thousands of miles away? >> we knew he didn't pull the trigger. when we came up with sirius underwood, the most obvious is there has been some sort of payment. we spent about a year looking through bank accounts, couldn't find any. >> almost two years went by and nothing. how do you put all that awful time together? >> day by day. >> are you starting to lose faith in your police, the investigation? >> it was stressful. mike ryan he would call and i would say to have you heard anything? we still have to get some more, more evidence, more evidence. >> but it is funny how things sometimes work out, because the investigators were about to get another out of the blue league

like the one from alaska. it began out of all things from a message at the zanesville pd. that she had said the tour has been was part of a stick up gang. >> we obtained a lot of important information for the investigation. >> this detective had been working for two years on a string of armed robberies. when he got the facebook tip in for the interview guess who she identified as the two members from the -- none other than josh daniels and sirius underwood. they had been banded together to use before brandi was shot to death. the woman confirmed something that detective michael had long suspected but unable to prove, that the robbery of a local department store had been an inside job. josh daniels had been working at the store at the time, and handed over $7,000 to a masked gunmen. if we had been here on january 1st 2012, what might we have seen? >> you would've seen an

individual come from the southwest side of the parking lot, he stuck the gun in joshua's face -- >> shows a pistol? >> yes. ends up being knocked out. >> the tipster claims that josh was a victim of a robbery but one of the participants, and that his pile sirius, had been the mastermind not only of the department store job but the prime mover in the crime, responsible for multiple armed robberies, most of them captured on surveillance video. the two bodybuilder secret sideline was a hit. >> sirius underwood would be robbing restaurants, or they're hitting gabriel brothers, but during the day he is the sweetest guy, loves the women, they love him, he'll train with you, poster boy, just an all around great american. >> the cops believe that linking sirius and his partner in crime josh daniels to the violent robberies would help nailed it to four brandi daniels murder. >> we're on the right track for

the robberies, we're gonna try to confront josh. >> back to alaska. when just landed in anchorage international on his way home from the oil factory, they hosted him to the office. he shows him photos of the robbery suspects. >> have you ever seen him before? around the store anything like that? >> no. >> detective michael then handed josh another photo. >> you ever seen sirius underwood. >> yes i used to work for him. >> would you have talked to sirius that day, texted him? >> not at all. >> really, the cop accused josh of lying, being up to his eyeballs in robberies. >> so if you guys came up with some dumb asking to take some money than you -- >> know. >> josh stuck to his story in the mid lawyered up. the detectives flying home to ohio knew they had more work to do, but in any conspiracy there is a wing link. they just had to pick their man

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a dollop of luck had revealed that josh and sirius were more than jim buds, they were armed robbers together. detective surmise that brandy,

their victim, most of known about sirius and her husband's part in the holdups. this case had received critical levels. what was the final greenlight for the investigators? when did they have it? >> when we found out that these two guys were criminal conspirators, violent criminals in several robberies. there was our motive, and once i felt like we had the motive for sirius underwood to be involved in this murder, we were gold. >> which is josh his wife might be a risk for him? >> that is correct. >> she might snitch him out? >> she might snitch him out. >> they convened a grand journey. they would present the case. there would be a lot of convoluted storytelling and evidence for the jury to fall. >> you have robberies going on, the homicide, cell phone data, how do you link all these people up. we're gonna have multiple snitches we're all gonna be

testifying who all have their own issues. >> the grand jury set for three months and heard more than 100 witnesses. in march 2016, it returned indictments against josh daniels and sirius underwood. at the request of authorities and ohio, deal last just a troop located josh at his mother's home. once ohio gain the green line to the troopers to move their suspects they did. the cuffs went on. josh was put in the back seat of a cruiser and driven downtown. >> you've been charged with several counts including the robberies that occurred at gabriel brothers, tumbleweed. the one that you are gonna do at campbell's and the murder of your soon to be ex-wife, brandi. >> josh will shown a graphic crime scene photo of poor brandi. >> this is what you are responsible for. >> this is what happened to your ex. and i am willing to talk to you to get your side of the story if you're willing to talk to

me. >> i think you're good investigator but i'm gonna have an attorney. >> okay. >> that's fine josh. >> meanwhile back in zanesville, police surrounded sirius car and arrested him. his interrogation didn't last long. >> you know why you're here? >> no, tell me. >> okay, we've had a grand jury and you've been indicted. >> for? what >> aggravated murder, aggravated robberies, attempted robberies, weapon under disability. tampering with evidence. josh daniels was also arrested. josh is up there talking, and i think it is the proper thing to tell you that you have the opportunity to tell me to. would you like to talk to me about this? >> no. >> no? >> i want to lawyer. >> you want to? lawyer >> yeah. >> josh waived extradition and was brought back to ohio. brandi's mother got word at the end of her shift. >> i get a phone call, you need to get down here now. >> they're in a courtroom. what's going on? >> josh is there, doing his

plea and then they go over details that we weren't aware of. >> it brings all the pain right back? >> yeah. >> how did he look to you in that courtroom? >> not a care in the world. >> when he was in the courtroom as well. >> this is big news, serious is charged, do you believe that he killed brandi daniels that he shot or to death? >> no. i don't. sirius had just so much going for him, he had worked so hard and i would say why? what did he had to gain from doing something like that? >> over the next few months, welch prepared his case. josh would be tried first and then serious. they laid out their case on index card, motive was looking more complicated than effort. in opening arguments they would have to explain to churches who these defendants are. sirius, the overachieving charm are, and bad husband josh who had been abusing steroids for years. >> josh was ride it out, he was

out of his mind using steroids. sirius is a social pass whereas for josh it was a status of being enraged angeles. >> i think he still loved her and she was just done with him. >> josh sat behind bars for seven months. deprived of doses of steroids, his chemically enhanced muscles deflated like balloons. they'd found their weak link. >> we get the phone call from josh's defense attorney, saying hey -- >> let's make a deal? >> let's talk. the issue that we had was how do you make the deal with? the white -- guy that had his wife killed or the guy who pulled the trigger? >> josh daniels would have to tell all. >> i want to start off with the murder. >> making a deal with the devil, but who will get burned. coming up. one down, one to go. >> what was the weakness in the

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two and a half years since brandi daniels was killed. the state's attorney had been holding out hope that one of the two defendants would take a plea deal in exchange for their detailed confession. then after seven months in

prison, josh daniels agreed to tell investigators would he knew. but would his story help them convict sirius underwood. here is dennis murphy with the conclusion of out there in the dark. >> as part of pleading guilty to murdering his wife brandy, josh daniels had to admit what he had done. provide would lawyers called a proffer, he was brought to a conference room at the prosecution's office. >> when was the first time that this idea came about? >> [inaudible] we were having a conversation at his apartment, and i was telling him about how hard this was on me. man brandi splitting up, and help install why was. she was seeing that guy craig. he made the comment. let's just offer.

at the time, being emotional and mad, i made the decision that maybe that wouldn't be a bad idea. >> josh helped him stop his wife. >> serious asked me where she lived and i told him. and he asked me about her work schedule and i told him. >> and it wasn't just brandi josh wanted dead. >> i told him to see if he could go over to the boyfriends house, greg and see if he can find where he lives. and break into his house. and killed both of them. >> did? he >> did he find out where he lived? >> yes. >> to try to break in the house? >> no. not that i know. if >> they schemed together on the eve of the murder. >> he asked me a day before, are you sure that you want this done? i have been drinking and i had alcohol problems and sterile

plums and i was just mad, so i said yes. >> how did it go down? >> i told him that she was getting off work. he just said that i got this. i see her car. i know that she was shot, i don't know if you came out of the bushes. i never talk to you sirius after it happened. >> he certainly confirmed to you that it happened? >> he said dunn. >> they said how could josh live after himself after killing the mother of his child? >> i thought that they would just go away. that this day would never come. me getting arrested would never happen. after brandi's death, i became an alcoholic, drinking every day. using heroin. downers. anything to numb the pain.

>> the killer husband sounded almost contrite. >> if i could change it, i would. brandy didn't deserve would happen to her. she was a good girl. ultimately, years down the rolled, having brandi gone and seen how that is going to affect my daughter's life, she's not gonna have a mom and knowing that i played a part in that, i can't live with that. >> with josh about to throw himself at the mercy of the court, prosecutors still had the accused trigger meant to deal with, but sirius was hanging tough, not saying a word. so with only one of the two cues going to trial, the state star witness would be josh daniels. as prosecutors prepared him to testify, there was still trying to wrap their arms around sirius motive for the murder. what is he telling you? >> when i push josh on why? why would he do this? and he says, that is what dudes

do for dudes? that is what sirius told him. you would do that for me? he said dude do that for dudes. >> crunch time for the prosecution. the trial was looming and they were far from confident. what was the weakness in the case? you're still gonna have josh communist your witness? >> that the jury would like him. you're asking the jury to rely on someone who has accepted to have his wife murdered. >> so in there there might be some wiggle room for sirius? just days after his murder was set to begin -- >> i was writing my opening and i got a message from the defense attorney saying -- >> the lawyer was proposing a plea deal, a screwball pitch of american jurisprudence. it's a very sketchy kind of feel to it. do you want to take a plea at explaining what an awful plea? is >> it's basically when someone says, i am willing to

say that you have a lot of information and i'm going to plead guilty but i am not going to actually did anything wrong. >> and then i turn to ron and say how does this go again? >> he's gonna take responsibility without thinking he did it. >> the state's attorney signed off and the trial george excepted sirius underwood alpha plea, he was sentenced to life with the possibility of parole after 38 years. josh daniels got life with the possibility of parole after 28 years. not enough time for some of brandi's loved ones. so where do we stand now, they've both been dealt with? >> yeah. i guess. >> your opinion, do you think they got off easy? >> yes, they did. they're still breathing and she's not. >> josh and sirius are serving their sentences in maximum security presence. brandi's parents are raising her daughter. the family is left with a snapshot album getting older,

but the young woman captured in the pictures inside, staying the same never to have her own album of her daughter graduating, getting married. time ran out for brandi before she could kiss her daughter goodnight. >> that is all for this edition of dateline, i am natalie morales, thank you for watching. watching >> i'm craig melvin. >> i'm natalie morales. >> this is dateline. >> the first time i saw her, i thought she was beautiful. we just love being together, we were always together. our kitchen back door was opened and the glass was broken. >> i need an ambulance now. my wife. oh my god. >> it was him who found her. >> i don't know how to handle that. i wish i could've been there to