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♪♪ it's velveeta shells & cheese versus the other guys. ♪♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. republicans ready to rumble this morning as lawmakers make their way back here to dsk.
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kevin mccarthy all but sealing her faith with a public endorsement for her replacement. we'll have the latest on when that vote will go down. plus why one lawmaker is comparing his party to the titanic. we're live from wyoming coming up. breaking overnight the growing concerns about the supply over the u.s. we have reporting where hackers are http://ed of being behind it. plus, news expected this week on the pfizer vaccine. vaccine orders free fall. for those that str not yet rolled up their sleeve, and kentucky's governor is going to
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talk plans with me. we have garrett haake and cal perry joining us live. we have kevin mccarthy going very public about who he wants to replace cheney even though she technically still has the job. >> do you support elise stefanik for that job? >> at least i do. >> that says a lot about the path forward for the gop. >> yeah, the house republican conference is eager to get this vote done and overwith as quickly as possible. mccarthy playing brutus striking the final blow against liz cheney. it was mccarthy that spoke on cheney's behalf. talking about the importance of having a big republican party
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with room for all of these voices on issues like the former president now not so. and i think it is important to rem there are two separate votes here. at some point, possibly even days later there is a next vote on stefanik. so you have mccarthy pulling way ahead of the action that tells us that if we pick our metaphor about a civil war or battle, but house republicans made their choice. their the party of trump going forward. there is very few voices, and few trump agnostic republicans. the di is cast in the house of representatives. >> cal, you have been on the ground in wyoming, i know you're there talking to folks there, what are you hearing? >> yeah, we wanted to come to casper because it is such a read area. three quarters of folks here
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voted for president donald trump. we wanted to hear why people were so angry. liz whenny voting with donald trump 93% of the time while he informs office. that said it doesn't seem to matter. it seems there was a great betrayal here on the ground in casper. take a listen. >> you're not supposed to go vote your conscious to represent wyoming. you're supposed to represent wyoming. >> he is stabbed us, she felt it was the right thing to do. i didn't vote for her for her feelings. >> she's a traitor. >> why? >> she is a republican and she votes against the republican president, she is a traitor. we heard time and time again republican in name only. it is important to people that she will be out of leadership. people will be happy about that. the question will be the next election in 18 months.
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the other great irony is when you talk to liberals and democrats they take great pain and they are now some liz whenny supporters. >>. >> we found two people here in cheyenne that understand, they were not willing to say so on camera. >> thank you, we're going to stay on top of this story and we have developments to get to. the critical fuel pipeline getting back up and running. it is still mostly shut down as we get to new details about the group that might be behind it. two sources familiar with what happened, a russian criminal group may be responsible for that hack forcing operations to stay online. tom costello has the latest.
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shannon pettypiece has the latest. tell us more about this group. >> it is a russian criminal group by the name of dark side and this is it's business model. it engages in ransomware attacks. and they are targeting companies and entities that can make money. it hires freelancers. give them the training, and they go out and get a percentage. darkside has a website and a customer service number to call if you have been hacked. here is the problem, they apparently have hacked colonial pipeline. a $2.5 million pipeline.
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we should say gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel, that pipeline is shut down. so the question becomes how quickly might that start to effect gas prices. how quickly can they get up back up and running again. we don't know but two are clearly interconnected. experts say it could only be hours or days away because this pipeline remains shut down. it's a high priority to get that pipe, pipes, up and running again. it is also top priority for the administration with an all hands on deck response to get them back up and running again. but they say it really ups the ante if you will in terms of the scale, scope, and severity of cyberer attacks on infrastructure now crippling a major artery on the east coast. and as we know ransomware
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attacks have been growing against hospitals, police departments, and the like and now it's affecting the oil infrastructure. >> you have to think that president biden would probably bring this up in some form or fashion when he speaks from the white house later on this afternoon. what do you think we might hear from him and what is the administration doing in the interim days before the pipeline is back up and running. >> we know they consider this an all hands on deck issue. the president was briefed on this over the weekend. they put together a working group. they are working with state and local officials in the company. it's being lead by the energy department and along with trying to help get the pipeline back online the white house officials say they're working on a number of scenarios should our fuel supply take a hit. and this becomes a slightly
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longer term issue. a lot of people are wondering how it will affect our relationships with russia. it seems to be a criminal group behind this attack. of course this is a fast evolving story. we will see if it has any longer term effects on relationships between the u.s. and russia, but certainly all of this comes as the u.s. and u.s. officials say these cyber attacks are becoming more and more frequent and the commerce secretary over the weekend saying these are here to stay. so hallie we expect to hear from the press secretary. this will be a top question from a lot of colleagues at noon. >> shannon and tom, thank you to both of you. we're talking about another big
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headline this story. that is vaccine demand dropping. some states asking for fewer doses. how are they going to incentivize people to get the shot? wells ask the kentucky governor that, there he is, live, next. later one of the top ranking democrats now says he would be willing to support a police reform bill even if it gets rid of a provision to need individual police officers from lawsuits. individual police officers from lawstsui - [narrator] this is steve. he used to have gum problems. now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinically-proven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. (crowd applauding) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores. riders, the lone wolves of the great highway. all they need is a bike and a full tank of gas. their only friend? the open road. i have friends. [ chuckles ] well, he may have friends, but he rides alone.
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happy mother's day. >> emotional and safe embraces over a year in the making. >> that is a little bit from stephanie gosk. the first big holiday since vaccines have been widely available to americans.
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that is a record amount of travel from this pandemic. a sign that things may be getting back to normal. daily vaccinations keep slipping here in the u.s. with states turning down doses. wisconsin asked for just 8% of the number set aside for them. thank you for being back on the show, good morning. >> special indeed, and a testament to science. as we talk about the vaccines, governor, let me start with what you're doing in your state. we are blessed as a country. just 15 months, at least, in
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kentucky into this pandemic. over 80% of those 65 and up. if you would have told me that was possible a year ago, i would have told you. we're certainly past that moment where people are flooding in to get the vaccines. we're now to the grind it out and hustle time. we have to make sure we don't have these at big drive through facilities any more but every drugstore, grocery store, working to get them into doctor's offices, places where people are going about their normal every day lives, and we have to look at different ways to incentivize them if they're casual or indifferent to get the vaccine. >> i want to follow up on that. you said you're under your full allotment, by how much? of the amount you're getting, how much are you using in kentucky. i hope that we'll try to do
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35,000 and 50,000 first doses. you compare that to the height where we were doing 190,000 first doses in a week. it has significantly slowed. we are doing everything that we can here in kentucky. we're announcing different incentives. we have businesses stepping up and there is no question that we have hit a tougher stage. we are continuing to grind it out to work, and to hustle. even if we have gone from 25,000 in a day to 7,000, those are still 7,000 kentuckyians now protected from the virus. >> you talk about incentives. you have some states some are considering giving out cash, is that something you might do? >> at this pointly look at anything and everything to not only save lives but to help us accelerate getting back to normal. ly say kentucky's economy is surging right now. we're certainly seeing such
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positive signs, but all of us want to be able to get back to our daily lives. if that is considering something like west virginia is doing with the savings bonds we'll consider just about anything. >> why do you think kentucky's vaccination rate is below the national average? >> there was a time when we were a little bit above. certainly we're above just about every one of our border states i think except for two. and we're out there working every single day, but the disinformation, the misinformation, it is tough to combat. it is found both on the internet. sometimes through public officials, it is a difficult to reach people where they are through trusted sources. and that's what we're doing right now working to have people's doctors, ministers, other people in their community talk with them and again try to help get people the right information to make the right
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decision. >> you said a moment ago that kentucky's economy is surging, governor. not everyone in your state agrees with you. the agricultural commissioner says the goal of lifting most restrictions across the state are not acceptable writing that governor bashir is holding the engine hostage. i'm asking them to have certainty and the responsibility for the opening. do you have a date in mind perhaps below that 2.5 million goal that you would reopen the state? >> let me make sure that we start with facts. in april we had the most economic activity has proven by sales tax in any april in the history of our commonwealth. not just at the beginning of april, we had more cars sold than ever. it is a rating agency. we had a solid economic recovery
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and upgraded us. we're about to have one of our largest surpluses ever with the largest rainy day fund in the history of kentucky. everyone economic indication shows that kentucky is booming. we already announced different steps where we're going to ease out of restrictions, but the reason that kentucky has some of the lowest per capita deaths, but we don't make knee jerk reactions. we follow the science and we give people a runway to know what we're doing and why. just like we eased into them we're easing out, we'll be at 75% by the end of the month and we have to prioritize getting this school year done. we were the first state to vaccinate our teachers. we got everybody back in, and surely we're willing to be patient to make sure that we get our kids through the end of this year. >> governor, thank you. before i let you go i have to ask you about the other big news out of kentucky this morning
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president not related to the pandemic but the bombshell from the kentucky derby. if a second test comes back positive do you think that bob baffert should be banned from future racing? what's your opinion on that? >> this is disappointing. it hurts an industry that is connected with kentucky and i thought had a really good day on kentucky derby saturday. there has to be repercussions to cheating. and bob baffert and medina spirit have a process they can go through and they should get the opportunity to go through the process, but if you're caught cheating there ought to be significant and severe consequences. >> you use the word cheating, is that what you think it is? >> if someone is intentionally providing a drug or enhance tore a horse that is banned at the track, sure. that's cheating. now they will get a chance to go through whether or not the test
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was correct, whether or not it was this horse's test. they will ask for dna, they will have all of those opportunities in that due process. in the end the rules are the rules. you can't cheat and you can't take that trophy home if you didn't follow the rules. >> thank you for being on the show and for your time this morning. >> we have a programming note for you as well. coming up this week on wednesday, lawrence o'donnell is sitting down with president joe biden as part of a town hall event to talk about how to get everyone american vaccinated. he will be joined by anthony fauci who will all answer questions from the audience. that is at 10:00 eastern and it will be streaming on telemundo.com. coming up, advocates pressuring the biden administration to help evacuate
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thousands of afghans that helped the u.s. before the taliban finds and kills them. we're talking with mikie sherrill. and more than 50 dead after a bomb attack targeting schoolgirls. we'll have more as families bury their daughters, next. familiesy their daughters, next. this is our block. our place. our people. our block, it's just like yours. full of the people who shaped you. they all deserve care and access to the vaccine. no matter their address, income, or skin color. not having a ride to get the vaccine. can't be the reason you don't get it. you wanna help? donate a ride today.
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this morning, new concerns about troops leaving afghanistan after a grusome bombing outside of a girl's school. another potential cause is claims that the biden administration are taking to long to help those that helped them during the war. they will be at the mercy of the taliban when u.s. troops are gone. chief foreign correspondent richard engel is life in kabul this morning. over to you. >> there are great concerns here
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about what is going to happen to this country, the future, so far the tal back controls about half of the country. they don't control any of the major cities and towns, but they control a lot of the country side and in areas where they control the taliban, they're reimposing their will and behaving very much like the old taliban, the taliban that hosted osama bin laden. they are reimposing the law and closing schools. so the people here in kabul are worried. it feels like a noose is tightening around the city and it will be most difficult for people that worked closely with u.s. forces like the interpreters and there are many people that worked very closely with contractors, security guards, and women and girls that
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suffered tremendous oppression under the taliban, and we saw that horrific attack that killed and the numbers seem to keep going up. we're close to 60 girls. many of them around 125 years old. >> it is just devastating to see and hear about. richard, thank you. i want to stay on this topic and bring in mikie sherrill. she was a navy helicopter pilot and is now in the armed services committee. thank you for being here. >> thank you, i hope you just heard richard's reporting there. is the biden administration, in your view, moving too slowly to protect afghans that worked with the u.s. >> it is unimaginable, this attack on the schoolgirls. it harkens back to the taliban of old. i remember watching with horror
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20 years ago at how they conducted themselves but what we achieved in afghanistan and what we achieved militarily is to root out physical structure of al qaeda. make sure they cannot plan any more attacks globally, and now we have to move forward diplomatically. we have to move forward with special visas to make sure we took care of all of those that stood with the united states. and moving to help bring the world to bear and the approval of the world to bear on the taliban. they will want support. they will want monetary support, they will want to move into the global realm here. and i think with diplomatic efforts we hopefully can move forward achieving what we could not. >> we're talking about the worst
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typer attack ever. as we reported two sources are telling us that one rush than group is the leading suspects. what is the appropriate response to something like this? what congressional action in your view needs to be take ton prevent this from happening again? >> well we have a lot of fronts that we need to fight. many heard of the solar winds. and this is a cyber criminal enterprise. now i would not be surprised if they had connections. so it would not be surprising to see that, but it is a cyber
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crime that is hardenning our infrastructure, our things like electrical power grid, our water infrastructure, and that we're also developing the investigatory tools that are very good at this, and we need to continue to support their efforts to root out and investigate all of these types of cyber crime. >> you just listed some priorities that you want congress to tackle as it relates to signer security. there is also a mir idea of other things they're supposed to be tackling. i want to show folks what that list is and ask about two things on this list. first you have police reform. they are saying they are willing to support this even if it ends immunity. i put this question to you, would you also be willing to support a police reform bill that had that provision out of it? we have been wanting to have a
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bipartisan criminal justice bill and we have been negotiating that, negotiations were ongoing over the summer. i have talked to karen bass, cory booker, i know all of us are working hard to make sure we come together to address and tackle this problem across the country. and this should be everybody. all hands on deck, making sure that we're doing this the right way. that we're creating safer communities and ending the racism that we have seen in too many places across the country. so i'm hope to those negotiations and looking forward to a bipartisan bill getting done. >> so you would potentially support a bill that didn't include qualified immunity? >> everything is on the bill. i would be open to any bipartisan bill. >> you also have a infrastructure push. it is infrastructure week here in washington, and you have mitch mcconnell who is changing a bit, the price range, that had
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he is willing to accept, right? that is up higher from what he initially said was a $600 billion ceiling. are you encouraged by that? do you think democrats should try to lower the price tag of what they're asking for to get the bipartisan support? >> infrastructure, dealing with infrastructure in the republicans, every time they get close i'm happy to talk about bipartisan infrastructure concerns. it has less to do with the top line number an more of what's in the package. we need to make sure that we are addressing deductions in the
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next package. we need to get all of the kids back to school and have good effort. so there is kwie a few things that need to happen and i would love to see a bill that addresses all of the needs of the nation. we're relying on eisenhower era investments. we have crumbling infrastructure across the nation. the hudson river tunnels are over 100 years old. we have to do better in this country. it will have not only economic impacts, but quality of liar impacts across the country. >> thank you for being back on the show. we appreciate it. >> new this morning, a reversal of another trump era policy. plus, an msnbc exclusive you
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nbc news now confirming that the biden administration is reversing a policy regarding to health care. transgender people facing health care discrimination. kelly o'donnell from the white house here, tell ulgs us what many of us could be viewing as significant here. >> this administration the lbctq
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community, this is taking a rollback into this arena. turning back a trump era attempted policy. the courts stopped the society. this is a an important mess an and important sign to any organizations that have received funding that they are barred from any discrimination that there is a gender assignment, a sexual orientation. there is a sense of not being welcomed or not treated fairly that there are real life health consequences if they don't seek out the proper care and treatment because of that. part of what the supreme court said they deserve equal
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it is a very difficult morning and the worst violence that we have seen here in jer rus lem. you see down towards the end here. a couple hours ago. ambulances are brought out. you can see there is the entrance to the mosque compound if is the most holy site. as i say, they were brought in and out over the course of the morning. by noon, they were peacefully worshipping inside of the mosque area. they say the on sid is the case.
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they say they were threatened with rocks and everything. they responded to that and it was fit for tat. one side always blaming the other there there is a number of moments that have come together over the course of the last few weeks. there was evictions being threatened in east jerusalem. and jewish settlers believe they are there. they believe that they should move out and that the settlers should move in. people are talking about the potential of a third and i don't think we're there yet. all of the ingredients are there and it is managed by both sides to calm the attention.
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>> we were hearing from one of the migrant families recently reunited after being reunited. the family is back together after nearly four years. they are trying to reunite family that's are separated. they are dedicated to finding every family and giving them an opportunity to reunite and to heal. alicia menendez spoke with that family. there are hundreds of families yet to be reyou nighted. that meant the world to them and you got to talk to them. >> yes, four years ago they crossed the border into the united states. turned herself into a border agent hoping to claim asylum. she was taken away in handcuffs
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and she was told it would be five days until they were reunited. just a few weeks ago they received word they would be finally reunited with their family. here is what s what >> reporter: how do you feel today?
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>> reporter: i'm a mom. you are a mom. you can only imagine the pain and now the relief in being able to be with her children. she tells me she hopes for a peaceful life in the united states. the challenge is that the status she has been offered expires at the end of three years. advocates pushing for a more permanent solution. the journey of these families far from over. >> thank you so much. you can catch more of her reporting on her show "american voices" saturday and sunday 6:00
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eastern on msnbc. another family reunited coming up in our next hour, just in time for mother's day. a deported mother and wife of a marine veteran back in the country after being separated under the zero tolerance policy of the prior administration. that's coming up next hour. up next, a new poll finds two-thirds of americans think social media is tearing us apart. are you surprised? what's behind those numbers next. xt ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪ the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. [typing sound]
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you know those likes you got on your most recent tweet or on facebook? people may like your post but they don't like the platform. americans do not think social media is good for america at all. our new polling shows nearly two-thirds of people who use social media -- that's a lot of people -- say the sites do more harm than good. even with that, 66% of people get online and use social media once a day. 64% believe it does more to divide us than bring us together. social media platforms are unsafe they say for lgbtq plus people. joining me now is mark murray. is there anything that more defines this love/hate relationship that we have with social media? nbc is taking a close look at the social challenge across all of our platforms this week. >> here is the good news. there's something that the american public and social media
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users agree on, and that is that social media can be divisive. when you actually dig into our poll, we find that majorities of republicans, independents, latinos, whites, seniors, millennials, young people all are in agreement that social media does more to divide us than to unite us. one interesting demographic that was split on this issue, hallie, african-american black respondents who had -- 42% think social media does more to divide us rather than 40% who think it brings us together. the other finding is when you ask a different kind of question on is social media making your life better or worse, we end up having a plurality of 49% say it makes our lives better versus 37% who think it make ours lives worse. bottom line, a lot of people are on social media. they think it's divisive but
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think maybe it makes their lives better. >> we will poll on these things. i thought it was interesting to see the numbers come out that i think reflect maybe how a lot of people feel. get online. you like the interaction, but you hate pieces of it. >> we are polling on political topics. how is joe biden's approval rating or who do you think will be ahead in the midterm elections? to look at broader looks at the american public and society is really important. particularly, two-thirds of people are on social media. do you like what you are doing or do you wish it was different? >> mark murray with that reporting and those numbers. thank you. thanks for watching this hour of "hallie jackson reports." we have highlights on twitter. i will be back in this chair or maybe a different one at 1:00 eastern today sitting in for chuck todd. i will see you then.
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for now, more with craig melvin right now. good monday morning to you. craig melvin here. it's a very busy monday. in fact, we are going to be checking in with eight -- count them, eight correspondents from the halls of congress to a major u.s. airport to casper, wyoming. first, the most impactful ransomware attack in history. that's what cyber security experts are calling the attack on the colonial pipeline. look at this map. this pipeline stretches more than 5,500 miles from texas all the way to new jersey. it supplies roughly 45% of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel that's used on the entire east coast. in a few moments, the national security risks this attack is
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raising. the biden administration is involved now. it is spotlighting the push for an infrastructure bill. in a few hours, we will hear from president biden when he talks about the economy. his emphasis this week is on deal making. you may have heard republicans are a little busy, especially in the house. that's because there's a gop rift that is opening right now over congresswoman liz cheney. her leadership post in the house is at stake. what happens next could tell us a lot about the future of the party. a key supporter, republican congressman adam kinzinger, shared this interesting analogy. >> we have to have an internal look and a full accounting as to what led to january 6th. right now, it's basically the titanic. we are like in this -- in the middle of this slow sink. we have a band playing on the deck telling everybody it's fine. meanwhile, as i have said,
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