stick your head out, you don't want to call attention to yourself, even when you are the victim of a crime. for lisa to go to the police and thankfully the nypd to actually have a hate crimes task force, was a great first step. we want to encourage people to know they have to report, that there are law enforcement agencies and people who care. but law enforcement also needs to know, make it easier on victims. offer multiple languages, offer diverse officers, make sure those officers are trained to properly respond to hate crimes. >> that's the message of this story is to get that voice but hold on to it tightly. i want to hang on, vicky, very much for coming on and for helping lisa and lisa's son, ceo of gravitas, amazing designs, by the way. i'm so sorry about what happened. i appreciate your coming up to share it with us. that does it for us this morning. the stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now.

hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. it is tuesday, may 11th. let's get smarter. this morning families, including mine nationwide are getting the good news they're waiting for. the fda approved pfizer's covid vaccine for kids as young as 12 years old. hhs secretary xavier becerra will join me live straight ahead. while in washington, president biden is telling states to tighten the rules around unemployment benefits, making sure if you get offered a good job, you got to take it. and republicans claim to be the party open to free thought. so why are they going to publish congresswoman liz cheney for speaking truth to the country and more specifically donald trump? i want to start with the big news from the fda. nbc's miguel almaguer is covering that in new york city and our professor from harvard school of public health.

miguel, how that this is approved, when can kids stop getting it? when i saw this headline, i almost skipped the show and took my kids to the cvs. >> yes, stephanie, a lot of families across the country are excited about this. they're not allowed to get the shot yet but likely very soon. the fda did clear the major hurdle for kids 12 to 15 to get vaccinated. now the cdc advisory needs to review the data and also meet separately. they, too, are expected to give this approval that. group is meeting tomorrow on wednesday. we expect as early as thursday kids will be able to start getting vaccinated. the 12-year-olds to 15-year-olds can go of one to three places, pediatrician's office, mass clinics, or there may be hurdles there, but also maybe even their local high school. it's the same two-dose shot adults have been getting so they may start getting their vaccinations as early as

thursday. stephanie? >> doctor, let's talk about that, those kids, half the size of adults, it's not a concern it's too much on their bodies? especially that second vaccine, it can knock you out. >> it is a very strong vaccine but in general the vaccine has been shown to be very, very safe for all age groups that has been trialed at this point. i don't think we have a huge concern it's really going to be harmful at all but certainly people should be ready for their children to potentially be feeling the side effects of it, meaning some minor, almost flu-like side effects for a day after each of the doses. >> you know, we often hear oh, kids don't get really sick but that's not the case. explain why such -- why this is such a big deal, because a lot of the new cases out there right now are young children.

>> yes, so children can still spread this virus. for the good of the entire community, meaning all age classes, it's very important for us to continue working to get as many people across the country vaccinated as possible. that includes in this case children, who are going to be some of the major drivers of new infections, especially now that the older age classes have been vaccinated. so continuing the march downwards in age to get more and more children vaccinated is going to be a crucial step for the end game in the united states with this pandemic. >> and the march outward to those who either are hesitant about getting it or haven't had access. of chris, tell us what is happening in new york city to get to some of those people who haven't had shots yet. >> hey, steph, welcome to times square. it is one of those places that

new york city is offering vaccines, the single shot, johnson & johnson vaccine, to tourists hoping a shot in the arm literally will help the proverbial shot in the arm to the economy. you know, stephanie, that is huge here. in 2019, $70 billion and 400,000 jobs were created by tourism. take a look at the numbers. record year for tourists and number one in the country in 2019. by 2020, that had dropped to a third. they're hoping to get that to little more than half this year and they hope that having these pop-up sites in places like just down the street from where i am in times square, "camp quarantine," brooklyn bridge park, the skyline, heavily tourist areas, offering free shots will help bring tourists back. i talked to folks from nyc and co, the tourist arm of new york city, and here's what they told

me. >> people have not had an opportunity to travel in more than 30 months so there's an extraordinary amount of pent-up demand. new york city is one of the most appealing places for people to want to go. if you can check off the box a vaccine, if you have not gotten one, make a plan to do it. by the way, we're going to give you access to some of our tourist attractions at the same time as a further incentive. >> and there's more. you know how some places are saying if you get a shot, well, we'll give you beer or some doughnuts. here in new york city, they're saying if you're a tourist and you come here and you get vaccinated, we'll give you free tickets to places like the bronx zoo, the brooklyn botanic garden. there will be free tickets and performances at lincoln center. a lot of incentives and they know if they give those free tickets out, stephanie, and you understand this, people will spend money on food. they might spend money in the gift shop. you can see right here, there's a huge sign over a local business, support small business with arrows down to the grand

slam fan shop. so there are a lot of different ways they're trying to get people in here. i should mention it's for u.s. tourists only. there have been headlines literally all around the world. they're getting a lot of free publicity about this observe, but right now you have to be a u.s. citizen 16 or older to get that shot. steph? >> those times square gift shops, they need the business. doctor, i want to ask you about hesitancy as it relates to kids. are we expecting if you got vaccinated, you'll get your kids vaccinated? or is there an additional level of hesitancy there? >> i think we're likely to see an additional level of hesitancy. i think it can be mitigated with good messaging, with good advertising for these vaccines to let people know how safe they are for children. but certainly we observe times

oftentimes see with vaccines parents will be more hesitant because they have a greater level of concern sometimes for their children than themselves. so i think what you should expect to see is for the cdc and other public health agencies to continue trying to get good, appropriate public health messaging so everyone can make an informed decision. i want to emphasize the vaccines appear to be very, very safe and effective for the age classes and kids. i would encourage people to surely get their kids vaccinated. >> well, that messaging matters. thank you for joining us. thank you for your expertise. dr. mina, chris, miguel. and with vaccine hesitancy an issue across the country, lawrence o'donnell will be sitting down with president biden, dr. anthony fauci, surgeon general murthy, to talk about the fight to get everyone vaccinated. that will take place tomorrow night here on msnbc at 10:00

p.m. eastern. it will also be streamed online. now let's turn to a developing story in washington. we're just 24 hours away from congresswoman liz cheney facing a vote that will likely oust her from gop house leadership after she denounced former president trump's lies about the 2020 election. and this morning house minority leader kevin mccarthy is sending a very clear message to his fellow republicans, she needs to go. in a letter to his gop colleagues, he said, they needed to make a change. while at the same time saying the gop is a big-tent party open to free thought and debate. those two things don't square. that letter comes after the minority leader said he supports congresswoman elise stefanik in her bid to replace cheney as the gop's third highest ranking member. let's get the latest from garrett haake on capitol hill and ashley parker, white house bureau chief for "the washington post" and former congressman denver riggleman, republican of virginia. garrett, what is the reaction on the hill to his letter?

we knew he felt this way. now he just made it official? >> i think that's right. the letter just formalizes a process we've been going through for more than a week now and pu further in an interview. now finally we have this letter and we get the whole thought process here. i think the framing you have to think of this is when you are the minority leader, as is kevin mccarthy, your primary goal, your primary mission in this case, political mission s. to become speaker of the house and win back the majority. what you are seeing here is a political calculation, it is more valuable for house republicans to have donald trump fully in their tent than it is to have liz cheney fully in their tent. we will see over time if that turns out to be the case. there's a lot of stir about it this week but congressman mccarthy hopes this will be the thing that will fade away if cheney loses most of her

megaphone as a member of house leadership. >> okay, congressman, i have a two-parter. why is it republicans believe donald trump is their ticket to win? last i checked, he lost the white house, he lost senate, he lost congress. the fact that we're now hearing kevin mccarthy say the gop is open to free thought and debate, that's the opposite of what's happening here. >> it is. i wish i was in that conference meeting. it takes a lot of guts. liz has to get up and speak to individuals who voted for her last time to keep her position and this time she will vote against her. it will be interesting what she says but liz never really loses her cool. so i think she's looking forward to the challenge of this. you talk about president trump losing the election, the issue was polling. even here i know we had our gubernatorial selection yesterday, a convention with only 4.7% of the people participating, however the number one polling issue was election integrity. you know i'm a chief strategist for the network contagious research institute, and i have

to believe this is a political evaluation because we have to see qanon has reverted to a new world order. what you're seeing with conspiracy theories and stop the steal, it is polling 25 to 30 points above the next ise. this is a political calculation. sadly, this is also an offering for mccarthy to gop conference in mar-a-lago. a lot has to do with the polling districts they think they can win and nothing with more integrity, it's clearly a political calculation and tomorrow is the offering to mar-a-lago and president trump that president trump needs to keep his position and move forward. >> what liz cheney is is consistent. i want to share what republican senator lindsey graham said last night because it is the opposite of consistent. >> the most popular republican in america is no lindsey graham, it's not liz cheney, it's donald trump. people on our side of the aisle believe that trump policies

work. they're disappointed that he lost and to try to erase donald trump from the republican party is insane. the people who try to erase him are going to wind up getting erased. >> is he saying he learned that the hard way? this is immediately after the january 6th insurrection, lindsey graham said he had never been so humiliated and embarrassed for the country. very very clearly expressed frustration for however trump handled the riot. soon after that he got heckled by hard-core trumpers at an airport, and then he came running back. >> it's not just senator graham. it's leader mccarthy originally said donald trump bore a lot of the blame for the january 6th attacks. it is leader mcconnell who was kwietz harsh and critical of donald trump's role in those attacks. he, of course, has been a little more consistent. but when asked on fox news if he would support donald trump if he were the nominee in 2024, i

believe the direct quote is absolutely. there are very few people, i can point to someone like mitt romney, for instance, who came out and condemned what happened january 6th, condemned the former president's role in it, debt with that harsh and at an airport, same with mitt romney, booing at a state convention and stuck to his principles. just about everyone else, his stace to mar-a-lago to kiss the ring, to try to placate former president trump and that's why seeing in part the shake-up in republican leadership this week. >> mitt romney has it. mitt romney is the one that actually tweeted expelling cheney will cost the gop votes. congressman, agree or disagree. >> disagree in the short term. i think in the long term mitt romney is correct but when you're looking at 2022 and midterms, the polling again and fund-raising all points to the fact gop can take back the house if they use issues that are fiction, like stop the steal, like election integrity, which i think everybody know is a cover

term for stop the steal. and you're looking at legislation across the country is working for them. so, again, i wish i can say that following trump in this sort of loyalty quotient you have everybody has to follow will be the death knell to the gop, but it's certainly not the policy now. it's about loyalty to president trump. that's really all we have right now. listening to the panel today, i'm just struck about what happened to me and what's happening to other people. but here's the one issue, the one reason liz cheney is being removed from the conference leadership is because she's not loyal to president trump. that is the one issue. that's it. and the fact is when you have -- i just never thought we would be fact-based radicals in the republican party. >> we're not just hearing it from mar-a-lago though, ashley. wyoming voters have said they're furious with congresswoman cheney. could this not just cost her her

leadership position? could she and other republicans taking her honest position lose their seats? >> we'll have to see, but, again, all roads in many ways go through mar-a-lago. what a lot of those voters in wyoming are responding to in part is being ginned up by former president trump. donald trump has never been one who is particularly organized. his operation is not very well streamlined. but he's doing what his advisers have described to me as revenge endorsements, which is trying to take out the ten house republicans who voted to impeach him and senators who voted to convict him and anyone else he believes was insufficiently loyal when it came to the quote/unquote big lie about the election. so he and his aides are calling around in wyoming not to just find a challenger for her but try to clear the field so that challenger doesn't get bogged down and have liz cheney prevail. if that will happen, and he will be successful, again, he's very rarely shown that strome lined political operation you might need to do that, we'll have to

see. but this is sort of the most concerted and deliberate former president trump has been about stuff like this in a while. >> we know he's someone who stays true to revenge. congresswoman ashley garrett, thank you so much. we will leave it there. coming up this morning, at least 24 people are dead in the worst clashes between israelis and palestinians since 2014. we will bring you the latest and dig into what is behind this violence. and with vaccines now available to some kids older than 12, will schools start requiring them? hhs secretary xavier becerra will be here to answer that and more. more u away ♪ ♪ the things, you say ♪ ♪ you're unbelievable ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. dig in for just $8.99. wealth is your first big investment. worth is a partner to help share the load.

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we're following breaking news out of israel. hamas militants firing multiple rockets overnight towards jerusalem and early this morning after hundreds of palestinians were hurt during clashes with israeli security forces at a

holy site there yesterday. in response to the rockets, israel has been attacking hamas targets in the gaza strip, killing 24 people, including 9 children including health officials in gaza. keir simmons has the latest. keir, what sparked this violence? >> hey, steph, we're just getting news two israeli women have died in the israeli city of ash ka lan after the missiles were fired from gaza. it's been a long-running escalation, simmering tremors over east jerusalem led to clashes between israelis and palestinians and then the rockets from gaza and now the israeli air operation over gaza. steph, this morning the international community, including the u.s., is calling for lowered tensions. israeli stair strikes continued into the early hours of this morning. 130 targets across the gaza

strip, israeli says, releasing cockpit video of the operation. israeli officials say 24 people, including 9 people died. israel says 15 were members of the militant group hamas. a mother and her son were killed can, this man says. israel declaring a line was crossed with hundreds of rockets fired from gaza, six targeting jerusalem and overnight two parking buildings hit. three were injured with different levels of severity, says this israeli police officer. the attacks followed days of unrest in jerusalem and the west bank. the worst violence for years there. confrontations between israeli police and palestinian protesters with 700 injured, the palestinian presence says. and mounting anger over threatened eviction of palestinian families. international calls for calm ignored. >> deeply concerned about the rocket attacks that we've seen now, that need to stop and need

to stop immediately. >> reporter: palestinians demanding president biden tervene. >> let him l at our system and see how palestinians live under this brutal occupation. >> reporter: this morning israel once again reverberating to the sound of retaliation and reprisal. and, steph, israel has just been hearing from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who is saying we're in the midst of a campaign since yesterday, the israeli defense force has been attacking hundreds of -- has launched hundreds of attacks on hamas and the prime minister saying hamas will receive blows here that it did not expect. meanwhile, this afternoon, the israeli defense minister is saying they're bringing in 5,000 israeli reservists. that will be seen as a signal of israel's determination. also, a signal to washington, though, too, steph, this could still escalate further,

stephanie? >> keir simmons, we will continue to monitor that situation. and developing now, the white house issuing an emergency declaration to ramp up other transit routes for oil and gas after the cyberattack on the colonial pipeline. despite the move, president biden said there's no fuel shortage at this moment. he also says ransomware inside russia is responsible for the attack, telling reporters there's no evidence the russian government itself is involved, but the government needs to take serious action against these groups. >> we have efforts under way with the fbi and doj, department of justice, to disrupt and prosecute ransomware criminals. my administration is also committed to safeguarding our critical infrastructure, much of which is privately owned and managed like colonial. >> the shutdown is already

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financial literacy organization operation hope, and "the washington post" economics reporter heather long. heather, we keep hearing people say it was a job shortage to a labor shortage, but is it a labor shortage or labor shift? we saw millions of people over the last year who maybe lost their jobs in things like service and hospitality industry shift, people moved to things like warehouse jobs, which offer more regular schedules, more pay and health care. >> that's exactly right, steph. i talked to unemployed people nearly every day. if you ask me, can you find some people who are staying at home because they're earning on average about $600 on unemployment and that's more than they would make if they went back to a restaurant or retail job, yes, i have talked to some of those people. what i hear overwhelmingly for people, nine out of ten, the reason they aren't going back to work or they can't go back to work is one of three things. number one, still some fears

about the pandemic. not everyone is fully vaccinated yet. number two is childcare. we don't talk about this enough. if you look at the april jobs report, all of the jobs went to men. the women are really still struggling until students and children are fully back in day care in school. and the last issue that i hear you were just speaking about is what i call this great reassessment. people have had a really, horrible, terrible year. many were laid off. many were told to go to work on these frontline jobs, where they had to enforce the mask mandates and get yelled at. their saying they want to do something different with they are life. they want something to shift their career if possible. so i'm talking to a lot of people who used to work in retail and restaurants. now they want to be in a warehouse where they're paid more or do something totally different, like become a wind turbine technician or something in the digital economy.

>> john, you're a free markets guy, is this on the government or employers? are people getting paid too much money not to work or are they not getting paid enough money to work? >> we're almost talking about the wrong thing. i couldn't agree with more with what she just said. we also have a shortage. i'm a small business owner. i pay my people at least $16 an hour to work. i think people are making the hope shortage and there's great migration to a greater dream. when was the last time people had a break? and really that the government gave them a break really to reset their lives. you're really talking about the new deal and for some the gi bill. we're going 100-plus years ago. i think people are saying, i'm getting to independence. and as you mentioned, most of the people who went back to work

were men. 3 million women said i'm not vaccinated or my children don't have day care or i'm just not comfortable yet. but a lot of people are saying what's the dream for myself? is my dream the dead end job at $12, 40 hours a week and i'm still below the poverty break in america? they're not inspired by the job. they're not inspired by the pay. when i took my bicycle to maui, they charged me nothing. so i took it all the time. when they charged me $100, i took it some of the time each way. when they started charging me $200 each way, the bike stayed home. people respond to incentives and penalties and they're penalized by a lack of hope and not incentivized with either better pay or training. here's the good news, this infrastructure proposal that i'm hearing, which i hope will become bipartisan, includes infrastructure for roads and people. we need to upgrade the human capital of our people, our greatest asset, so we can get 2% to 3% of gdp from the bottom 50%

of society who are really off the grid and are being tuned up and prepared for the greatest game on the planet, which is capitalism. we have to get more people. this is our chance to reset and upgrade our software for everybody. the content that people are sitting at home lazy is disingenuous and also disrespectful of the average person with a lot at the end of the month. >> john, what do you say to a small business owner, i own a small business. even before the pandemic, i was dealing with the amazon effect, my input costs are so much higher than big-box retailers and i can't afford to pay my people more. do those small businesses go out of business, or is there a pass? i thought sort of the same things in one of my businesses and i paid more, got better quality workers so i was playing less people to do better quality work. also, the earned income tax credit is available, stephanie, to every employer. one out of four americans who

qualified for it never even asked for it. that's a bonus for working. that wouldn't cost the employer in this conversation a dime. if you're making less than $60,000 a year, your worker is qualified. if you make $25,000 a year, the person gets about $19,000 -- that's real money, cash -- because it's three years retroactive. the employer could facilitate that without it costing them a dime. workers get a bonus. they, my guess, come to work early and stay later and i think their employer is backing them. we need to reimagine work, reimagine small business. let me put it this way, my rich friends will do better if they stay rich. and even modest business owners will do better if it's not just the assets, but with the good of the people walking down their aisles, their workers. >> and heather, we just talked

about this -- i will not say labor shortage, but hiring delay. when you mention childcare, there's $39 billion shored up for childcare from the american rescue plan that hasn't all bee ent yet. but this argument unemployment is making people stay home, it doesn't square with the facts. there's no evidence states that give out more money have a bigger labor problem than states that don't. >> yeah, that's true. i think it's also interesting, we hear this claim of labor shortage the most from the restaurant industry right now, and actually if you look at that april jobs report, pretty much the only sector that was doing a lot of hiring was restaurants and hospitality, adding about 330,000 jobs. so there's definitely it feels like a mismatch between what people are saying and what's actually happening on the ground. i will say we're starting to see some evidence of what john was just speaking about of companies starting to lift pay. we saw chipotle make an

announcement earlier this week they were going to bump up pay a couple dollars. we certainly see evidence around the country of smaller businesses offering free subs to workers trying to boost pay a little bit, trying to give out free cases of beer as a hiring bonus and breweries. so i think that will be an interesting thing to play out and certainly the president said yesterday, while do you have to accept a job if you're offered, he also encouraged companies that workers will cop back if -- come back if the pay is higher. >> finally workers have a bit of leverage. >> i think, stephanie, we're pivoting here to an unintended increase to the living wage possibly in this country. coincidence is god's way of saying anonymous, so says andrew young. we have been arcing about this 20, 30 years. it might be the universe, a message that the workers really do matter in whether free enterprise, not just the folks on wall street get to make a

choice, or our friends on wall street, it's those on main street making a choice and they're saying pay me more. you want me to show up and be enthusiastic, pay me a living wage so i can pay for the roof over my head and not be stressed out at work and i will give you more. i will acknowledge to iz abouts we need to do more in this package coming next to support small businesses and restaurants who there's not an undue burden on them because they're the backbone of our economy. so the average mother with too much money owed at the end of the month. >> we should remind everybody restaurants are getting $28 billion in the american rescue plan that opened last week. anybody who has a teenager at home telling you you can't find a job this summer, tell them to call me. those jobs are out there. heather, john, thank you so much. we have to take a turn. coming up next, now that kids and 12 can get vaccinated we need to get the answer to this, does that mean schools will be 100% open in the fall and will

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with the grill that grills for you. we are keeping a close eye on capitol hill when dr. anthony fauci and cdc director rochelle walensky will be testifying a few minutes from now. i want to bring in javier becerra and start with this big, great news. the fda is proved the pfizer vaccine for kids ages 12 to 15. it will be available thursday. that gives us three months to vaccinate every middle school kid in this country. given that, do you think the government should mandate vaccines in schools next year? >> we certainly hope local communities will move quickly to make plans to get their kids vaccinated quickly now moving

forward. we want to hear from the cdc that it's a go. but clearly, stephanie, i think the fall looks much more promising for a lot of families. >> if vaccines aren't mandated in schools, should schools be open 100%? >> again, those are decisions made at the local level. we have been providing guidance that says everyone should get vaccinated. and we're doing everything we can to make that happen, and now we can see the path for 12 to 15-year-olds to join 16 and over, that's a great message to the rest of america. right now the time to get vaccinated, facilities are out there, sites are available, vaccines are there, we should be getting everyone to sign up. the less we vaccine, the more we have to continue wearing masks. the more we vaccine, the less we have to worry about masks. >> i want to ask you about some breaking news. new data showed a million americans signed up for coverage

during the aca and that's during the expanded enrollment window. that's huge news, that wasn't supposed to exist. that's on top of the 12 million that signed up for obamacare for regular enrollment that ended in december. we know former president trump was trying to get rid of obama care completely. was all of that noise, or was there real damage done? >> first, stephanie, you're absolutely right. this is a double dose of good news. the first you hear 12-year-olds to 15-year-olds now are on the verge of getting vaccinated and at the same time you're finding a million americans have now received affordable care as a result of obamacare. and so great news all around. we just have to make sure people continue getting out there, getting vaccinated, getting their health plans. by the way, on top of the 1 million who just got insured, there are 2 million americans who got their care through obamacare. who went back to the healthcare.gov site and found out they were able to reduce

their premiums and out-of-pocket costs as a result of the american rescue plan the president put out there. good news overall. we want to keep it going. >> the american families plan makes some of these improvements permanent. it's massively important. but it's also a massive investment. just because something is big doesn't mean it's a good investment. how do you know the solutions you're putting forward will work? i certainly care about elder and disability care. when i see the number 400 billion, i want to know what's in there and how do you know these programs are good ones? >> stephanie, when you compare what the american families plan will cost the country, it's a pittance compared to what it cost us to try to fight covid. we spent several trillion dollars trying to fight covid. if more and more americans were covered and prepared, we could probably be in far better shape and wouldn't have to spend trillions. right now the president proposed

a plan, american family plan, which would make permanent as you mentioned a lot of the savings in obamacare and that would help tons of families. he estimated some 4 million more families that don't have coverage now would be able to afford health insurance if we made the american family plan law. >> let's talk about oversight, because if you add up all of the money that has been spent in the last year and this infrastructure bill, we're talking about $10 trillion. i know you want american families plan, american jobs plan to go through. what is the plan for oversight? let me tell you, the first $2 trillion we spent under the c.a.r.e.s. act, the oversight committee that was supposed to be overseeing it still doesn't even have a chairperson, and it's been a year. >> yes, so what happened in the past, we're not interested in see happen now moving forward under this administration. i will tell you at the health and human services, at my

department, we're going to make sure accountability has a capital a on it. we want to make sure we prove to folks not only did they benefit by getting better coverage at a lower cost but taxpayer investments made so those families were covered were well spent and we're going to be sure to show accountability at the end of the day. we will put plans out there -- >> how? >> that work. we will go out and make sure that we follow through on the dollars and work with our local and state partners to make sure we're monitoring where the money is spent. the production is the ultimate decider on these things and when you can say that already a million families have signed up, that's real stuff, real care for a lot of americans. it's not just wasting money, it's actually investing in making america healthier. >> i know you just said you don't want to go backwards but is it not this administration's responsibility to have oversight over money that's been spent, whether or not it was this administration or the last? it was congress that signed off

on the c.a.r.e.s. act, trillions of dollars. >> right. and we're going to do everything we can now under our watch to make sure we're watching the money. and i guarantee you, we will do it differently from the way it's been done in the past. but please don't happened in the past on the biden administration. it is a new day. we're doing it differently. we're going to make investments work. long term investments that make us smarter, stronger, and better. mr. secretary, thank you for joining me. >> coming up today, the family of andrew brown, a man fatally shot by police in north carolina in april will see more of the police body cam footage. we're going to go live to elizabeth city, north carolina, next. city, north carolina, next doug? [ding] never settle with power e*trade. it has easy-to-use tools and some of the lowest prices. don't get mad. get e*trade and start trading today.

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he was shot four times in the arm, and then once in the back of the head and that is the shot that killed him again according to the medical examiner. here at the sheriff's office, they said around 3:00 or so they will allow the family and the local attorney to go in and join them and review the videotape. afterwards we expect them to come out. they have seen only one body camera video and you're questioned about whether or not there are items that might be interesting or useful to the family of andrew brown proceeding the events ta took place. interestingly the attorneys for the families said they believe that the district attorney should rescues himself because of his relationship with the officers. seven officers involved, three

who remain on administrative leave. there is no doubt that all seven officers involved including the three shooters have worked directly with you. the conflict is well defined. the district attorney has not responded to that letter. we reached out to him and i think what will be most compelling is to get the interpretation of what the family and the attorneys see on this video as being disclosed to them but it is not being given out. not as if the public or anyone outside of that room will get a chance to see these videos. stefanie? >> kerry sanders, thank you. that wraps up this very busy hour. hallie jackson picks up breaking news coverage next. she'll be speaking to the chair of the house intelligence company adam schiff. e

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right here, right now in washington the first comments from the cdc as they give the final okay in a critical turning point on vaccines. health officials are seeing it live on the right side of your screen as the agency gets ready to sign off on the pfizer vaccine n