tv Ayman Mohyeldin Reports MSNBC May 11, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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escalation in the middle east. you're looking at new video from near tel aviv where air raid signs are sounding and rockets are streaming across the night sky. moments ago all flights have been halted at ben gurion international airport. overnight at least 28 palestinians including ten children and two other israelis have been killed as an exchange of fire between israel and militant groups continues. in minutes we will speak with a to know facing eviction as well as a senior adviser to the israeli prime minister. meanwhile here at home, reports of shortages following a cyberattack that shut down a key pipeline network. energy secretary jennifer granholm says it will take a few days to fully restart the colonial pipeline. but in the meantime, she said
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this. >> we expect that gas station owners are and should act responsibly. we will have no tolerance for price gouging or hoarding gasoline. >> that announcement came just after the president held a virtual meeting with a small group of governors about boosting vaccinations one day after the fda gave its approval for children ages 12 to 15 to receive the pfizer vaccine. we're also keeping a close watch north carolina where the family of andrew brown jr., shot and killed by sheriff's deputies when they visited his home, is set to view more video from the body cam footage today. joining me right now with the very latest from overseas, from ashkelon, israel, mark, walk us through what you're seeing in the past couple of minutes and what you're seeing on the ground. >> reporter: a very, very swift
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escalation, yet another escalation in the violence here in israel, in gaza, within the past few minutes or within the past half an hour. hamas has launched 130 rockets from gaza towards tel aviv. we saw, as those rockets flew over our heads here in ashkelon, we saw the israel missile defense system, the iron dome as it's known, lighting up the night sky as it tried to take out those rockets as they headed north. what we can tell you tonight is that there is -- there are fatalities in tel aviv. we have seen pretty horrific imagery of injured people on the streets of tel aviv. one person is confirmed to have died in tel aviv today. two people have died down here in ashkelon as well. that is the israeli side of this dangerous and escalating
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conflict. on the other side, israelis are retaliating and pounding gaza today and last night, 28 palestinians so far have been killed. some will say that it is very disproportionate in terms of the level of strikes. the israelis clearly much, much more sophisticated in being able to hit targets within gaza and hit them very heavily. we saw extraordinary imagery of a 13-story building collapsing in gaza, a residential building. the israelis claim that they have been hitting hamas militant targets. we know that hamas has in the past hidden military facilities, commanders, in residential areas. but the level of destruction already in gaza is significant. the destruction here in israel nothing like that. we have seen individual buildings that have been damaged, a home here in ashkelon where those two people died earlier on today, an elderly woman and her younger carer,
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that was destroyed. ayman, the idea of rockets being fired at israel and causing injuries and fatalities, that puts this at a whole different level. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and benny gantz are due to speak live to the nation in 15 minutes. i saw low loaders with tanks on them. at the moment the israeli retaliation on hamas is an air offensive, it's planes, it's helicopters, it's drones. but i spoke to a commander earlier on today who said before the attack on tel aviv, i should say, who said that this could well soon turn into a ground offensive. i think we're in that territory now. of course the backdrop, ayman, is the clashes in jerusalem, just yesterday, it seems like ages ago, but just yesterday in
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which hamas said they were sticking up for the palestinian cause. they said they would retaliate on jerusalem. they hit targets to the west of jerusalem yesterday, in itself unprecedented in recent history. they said tonight at 9:00 p.m. they would hit tel aviv and they have done just that. >> mark stone, thank you very much. keep us up to speed. sky news's mark stone in ashkelon for us. joining us now is a man who was forcefully evicted from his home. we spoke earlier about the situation you and your family and others have been facing. walk us through the situation, what it has been like for you and your family for the last few days in this latest escalation that we've seen play out. >> thank you so much, ayman, for having me. before i begin i want to offer my condolences to the people, innocent people who were killed by israeli war planes in the
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gaza strip, in the besieged gaza strip. similarly, here we have been dealing with a wave of state-sanctioned violence. in the past few weeks it has been a scene of terror here. every single night we're met with stun grenades, rubber coated bullets. the israeli forces are not stingy in the force they use against unarmed civilians, women and children. just today somebody got wounded in the eye. over the past week our neighbor got his house illegally invaded into and his leg broken by the israeli occupation forces. other other neighbors had their house illegally broken into, their gate broken off. and then had their yards intentionally destroyed. the level of violence we're
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seeing is incredibly absurd and it's fascist. i have been trying to shower for the past three days and i still cannot get the skunk water off of my clothes, off my skin, the chemically manipulated skunk water, just for standing in front of our houses and saying no to state-sanctioned ethnic cleansing. >> this has been called a private land dispute. tell us and our viewers what this is for you and your family and other palestinians experiencing this and to those who say this is working its way through the legal process and israeli courts, what would you say to them? >> i'll say to them what the united nations, what over 190 human rights organizations, international and regional, have said. this is a war crime. this is ethnic cleansing. you know, they can do all their propaganda and say that this is a private land dispute. but it doesn't take much, looking at the history of this
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country and seeing how this country came about, it came about by stealing people's homes and lands and destroying people's villages. today the difference we have is that they no longer use their artillery to steal our homes except when they do come and steal their homes. now they use a supremacist, colonial judicial system that colludes with organizations to take our homes. just because it's legal doesn't mean it's moral or correct or historically just. what's happening to us is ethnic cleansing. >> i want to give you a chance, i'm not sure if you've heard the u.s. state department, they would not explicitly say whether palestinians have a right to self-defense when they were asked about that at yesterday's briefing. what do you make of how the u.s. and the international community has responded to what is happening to your family? they are saying, the spokesperson for the state department is saying today that you have a right to safety and security while israel has a right to self-defense.
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what do you say to u.s. officials and the international community? >> the united states has waged more wars than there are hamas members. i don't wait for the united states to tell me what constitutes as self-defense and what not constitutes as self-defense, that is not where my moral compass stems from. i don't think the united states is in position, given all the genocides and wars it's partaken, to say what is self-defense. we're leaving under an excruciatingly violent siege. the aggressor, the occupier, started it all. that's fundamentally what started the so-called conflict. >> thank you. joining me now from tel aviv
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is senior adviser to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. thank you for your time. i will -- >> thank you for having me. >> we'll get to the rockets and the latest developments and what you can tell us about this upcoming statement from the prime minister in a moment. i do want to begin with what started all of this just recently. as you heard there, i want to get your reaction to what you just heard him say about what he and his family are experiencing. can you commit to him and his family that they will not be expelled from their homes? >> the question is it's before the courts. as you know, i'm in the legislative branch -- sorry, the judiciary branch is independent, like in united states, like in britain, like in other democratic countries. i don't know how the courts will decide in the end. there's a property dispute. there were jewish families who lived there before they were expelled in 1948 and they are claiming that property is theirs. obviously there are people
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living there now. it's a difficult choice. it will ultimately be decided by the court. >> as you very well know, there are also palestinians who have land deeds to their homes from 1948. are they allowed to pursue the same recourse to their homes inside israel, inside east jerusalem? >> we make a differentiation on that because as you will recall, there was a whole population transfer in 1948-'49 which we see as being different because we had something like a million jews who have forced out of the arab countries. we made homes for them here in israel. we thought it was right that the refugees who left israel to avoid the fighting, our refugees to find a home on the arab side. we said that was a different case. once again, it's not the israeli government who will make the decision but the courts. >> we also mentioned the israeli foreign ministry framed this as a land dispute. and it's obviously working, as you mentioned, it's working
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through the judiciary. and we have the tweet there -- >> i mean, to be fair, you had one side of the land dispute, you interviewed them, you should get the other side as well to be fair to the viewers. >> we're happy to, we certainly will, we've been covering this story and we certainly will have them as well. the point i was trying to get to is the government -- >> so we're not part of the trial. we see it as a dispute between two private individuals and whatever the courts decide. i think that's fair. >> absolutely, that's why we're showing the tweet, we agree with you, that's what you're saying. i want to go back to 2009 and play for you what was said by one of the settlers, one of the jewish claimants in 2009, when they began to take over the homes. listen to this. >> we take house after house because we prove in the court that this area belonged to the jewish. and because that, all this area
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will be a jewish neighborhood. a dream that all east jerusalem will be like west jerusalem, jewish capital of israel. >> so that man is now a member of the jerusalem city council. and you're saying this is a land dispute. that sounds like a stated strategy to remove palestinians from east jerusalem to make it, as he said in his own words, a jewish city. >> he was speaking for himself. >> he's the spokesman for a settler organization. >> i understand. he is speaking for himself and the organization. the person who you had on before was speaking for himself and his organization. he basically said israel had no right to exist, he said my country was built on stealing other people's land. so you have different opinions on both sides, very strong opinions on both sides. i think you have two people here who probably represent the more nationalist elements on their sides, giving their opinion. but in this dispute ultimately i
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told it's only fair that the courts will decide. >> if you're saying he's a private citizen, let me play for you what the deputy mayor of jerusalem -- just on, just one second. one second. >> to be fair -- >> i want to read for you what he said, the deputy mayor of jerusalem, he said to "the new york times" on friday that what's happening in the city is of course a part of a wider strategy of placing layers of jews throughout the eastern half of constituent, the goal being to secure the future of jerusalem as a capital for the jewish people. how should arabs who are living in jerusalem interpret statements like this by the deputy mayor of this city? >> so at the same time, the mayor of jerusalem is saying he wants to improve services for -- >> i'm asking you about that specific comment. i'm asking you about that specific comment. how should -- >> the guy speaking before me, you didn't interrupt once. and you're not letting me finish a sentence, sir. i don't want to complain, but
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please. >> i'm asking you specifically about that. >> i'm answering your question. >> go ahead. >> the mayor of jerusalem has said specifically over and over again that he wants to invest more in the arab sector, he wants to see the arab sector thrive. as you know, since israel reunified the city in 1967, the arab population has grown. it's more prosperous. the whole city is prosperous and more affluent. united jerusalem is a success story as a city and will continue to be so. >> according to israeli reports only 7% of the building permits issued in jerusalem over the past few years have gone to palestinians. they make up 40% of the city's population. let me also, with the same official that we were just talking about, the deputy minister, he was there the other day, and he said, there was video of it, he said to one of the palestinian activists there on the ground who had previously been shot, saying it's a pity he wasn't shot in the head. what do you make of an official in that position speaking to
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members of his constituency? >> to be fair, there were people demonstrating with hamas flags. you know hamas calls for the murder of all israelis. how am i supposed to see that? if you want to find extremists and say that represents israel, you can do that. >> he's the deputy mayor of jerusalem. i'm not selecting a fringe element. >> i wasn't talking about the deputy mayor. israel -- >> i'm saying the deputy mayor told one of his constituents he should be shot in the head. i'm not talking about an extremist nationalist. >> i don't know the quote you're talking about. i do know it is the policy of the government and the policy of the municipality of jerusalem is to be encompassing. we want to see a diverse jerusalem, a jerusalem where all inhabitants, jews and arabs, can feel at home. that's the policy of the government. we want to see all of israel, all of jerusalem, developing in a positive way, increased prosperity, better education, better infrastructure, for all inhabitants of the city.
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a united jerusalem, a stronger jerusalem, is good for everyone. >> the international community does not recognize your sovereignty over east jerusalem. a spokesperson for the united nations high commissioner said any actions in jerusalem that are enforced that would ultimately evict palestinian families under international law may amount to a war crime. what do you say to the international community who does not recognize israel's sovereignty over east jerusalem and says what you're doing to families like his and others is possibly a war crime? >> we think that is the politicization of international law. we see all too much that have at the u.n., a series of western democracies have come out against the anti-israel agenda, countries like canada, australia, the united states, britain, have come out against this anti-israel agenda in the u.n. body. you can quote them if you like but i don't think they have a lot of legitimacy on this issue. as to the substance of the charges, israel reunited the
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city in 1967. before that, east jerusalem was occupied by the jordanians. before that it was occupied by the british mandate. in fact the last time the indigenous inhabitants of jerusalem actually controlled the city was probably going back to an generate judeah. >> we're not going down the history lessons here because you don't recognize palestinian claims to their homes in 1948 israel or east jerusalem. you won't allow them to use the same judicial process that you're advocating for israelis to use. >> don't put words in my mouth. i said what happened in 1948, that's what you're talking about here, i said there was almost a million jews who were thrown out of their homes in the arab countries. there were less than that, palestinian arabs, who fled the fighting here. and just as we made homes for the jews, and my wife's family were expelled from syria, had
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that terrible journey on foot from syria to israel, we think it's fair that the arab world would accept their arab brothers and sisters and integrate them. i think that's fair history. >> let me ask you finally -- >> and if you want to talk about justice for refugees, one can't be color-blind, one has to talk about justice for all refugees and about the million jews who were thrown out of syria, lebanon, egypt, iraq, more morocco, yemen. these jews had been there since biblical times, these ancient jewish communities were destroyed, forced out. we made homes for them. just as we accepted them as our brothers and sisters, we think it's right to ask the arab world to accept the refugees from here as their brothers and sisters. what's the logic in not doing so? >> finally, i said i wanted to talk about the rockets really quickly, obviously an escalating situation. can you give us a sense what have the prime minister and defense chief of staff benny
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gantz will have to say later as our correspondent mark stone was reporting? >> obviously hamas in gaza has crossed a whole series of red lines here. we have to remind the viewers, hamas is a brutal terrorist organization, not just israel says so, so do countries across the world, united states, britain, australia, canada, japan. also arab countries in the gulf, all consider hamas a terrorist organization. they are indiscriminating rocketing israel's urban centers, tel aviv, jerusalem. at the same time they are enslaving gaza's arab population, turning them into human shields. hamas is a tragedy for israel but also very much for the people of gaza and palestinians as a whole. >> ambassador, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me, sir. brand-new footage just coming into our newsroom, it is out of gaza city, showing a tower collapsing after being hit
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we have some new developments in the last few hours in some high profile cases in the investigation into the january 6 insurrection, this as a house committee prepares to meet tomorrow for a hearing on whether the justice department turned a blind eye to right wing extremism. former defense secretary christopher miller and acting attorney general jeffrey rosen will testify alongside d.c. police chief conte.
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general michael bolton said the capitol police's response was hindered by substandard intelligence gathering. scott macfarlane has been tracking these cases for us. scott, the two men accused of assaulting capitol police officer brian sicknick were back in court today. what's the latest in their cases? >> reporter: ayman, good afternoon you to. both asked a judge to release them from jail pending trial and both were rejected. the defense says the two were brutal in their attack, blinding and injuring the officer. the judge says because they strategized, thought to bring the bear spray, timed the deployment of the bear spray,
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that they're a danger to the community. they remain in the d.c. jail until their next hearing next month. >> there was also a court appearance for one of the people captured after the fbi released a series of videos back in march. what did we see happen there? >> reporter: the man from orlando, florida is not only accused of taking a police riot shield but punching a capitol police officer in the head. he pleaded not guilty in court today. the significance of the case is the significance of the fbi's tip line. they posted a photo purportedly of him in mid-march. they got their tip in april, he was recently arrested. the tip line is still active, there could be another 40 or 50 arrests still to come. >> inspector general bolton did not have an answer to why capital police officers were
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diverted to monitor protests on the day of the insurrection when proud boys were assembling nearby the capitol. >> reporter: i think the focus will change from capitol police to other federal law enforcement. tomorrow, 10:00 a.m. eastern time, the first time trump administration officials will have to answer for what happened january 6. the former defense secretary chris miller will be asked, i'm told, about delays in responding to what were some urgent calls for help that day. former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen, committee aids tell me he'll likely be asked about the contrast between the justice department's response in june 2020 to racial equity protests and what happened during the insurrection. it will be a long hearing, three hours, and everybody appears virtually. >> scott, thank you as always. joining me is former commander of joint task force
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russel honore. he was assigned by house speaker nancy pelosi to write a report about the insurrection at the capitol. what do you think we will learn from the witnesses tomorrow when they testify about the capital riots? >> i can't speculate what they're going to say. we all saw with our own eyes what happened that day. these hearings need to happen, but it also speaks to the need to get the commission started, because these piecemeal hearings, it's going to be hard for the american people or the congress to get a full report, with one congressional hearing at a time. >> if you were a lawmaker, based on your experience with this particular situation, what questions would you ask them, what unanswered questions do you still have about that day? >> well, i think a lot of
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questions concerning who knew what when. and that was not the focus of task force one six, as you know. our focus was to make a recommendation to prevent it from happening again. we spent a lot of energy on the size of the intelligence effort in the capitol police and focusing on the infrastructure. but the heart of the question you're getting at, it would best be answered by the commission. i have no idea what they might say tomorrow. i'm sure they will be well-coached by their respective agencies. >> you know, sir, threats to lawmakers, to congress, have nearly doubled in 2021 compared to 2020, according to the u.s. capitol police inspector general's report. do you think those threats will eventually start to die down or are you worried that this might be a new normal for politics in our country?
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>> well, we presented that to the congress, the number of threats going to members of congress was ridiculous. and they were still going and are still going up. that's why we recommended more than an additional 200 officers be assigned to the capitol police for dignitary patrol as well as an element inside the capitol police to coordinate the joint terrorism task force at each site in the country to provide investigations as well as collaborating with necessary security to protect members when they're at their homes and when they're at the office. that's over 200 officers we recommended adding to the capitol police.
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>> lieutenant general russell honore, sir, thank you so much for your time, i greatly appreciate it. the world health organization is calling the highly contagious triple mutant covid variant spreading in india a variant of concern. how worried should we be here again? you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." stay with us. h us s. ♪♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier. struggling to manage my type 2 diabetes was knocking me out of my zone, but lowering my a1c with once-weekly ozempic® helped me get back in it. ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic® ♪ my zone? lowering my a1c and losing some weight. now, back to the show. ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. and you may lose weight. adults lost on average up to 12 pounds.
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we are continuing to learn more about the coronavirus pandemic today. at this hour, cdc director dr. rochelle walensky testified before the senate today that the uk variant is the dominant covid strain in the united states, making up 72% of cases in april. joining me now is dr. mario martinez, former pandemic administrator for the obama
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administration. 3,000 die daily in india. the world health organization is identifying india's covid-19 variant as a, quote, variant of concern. what does that mean? should we be more worried about the strain than other ones that we've seen? >> so when something gets termed a variant of concern, ayman, it means it's moved up in the hierarchy of importance in the variants we're watching. the w.h.o. and the cdc categorize variants along a spectrum. something moves from a variant of interest to a variant of concern when it meets one of four criteria. the first is an increase in transmissibility. the second is an increased disease severity. and then number three, if it has a decreased response to neutralizing antibodies or our current treatments or vaccines are less effective. the indian variant meets the threshold because it appears to be more transmissible. but the indian variant is the
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fourth variant to have this designation. the good news is both vaccines approved in india work well against this strain. the problem they're having in india is they can't produce and distribute enough vaccine. what that means for us here in america, we fully expect our current vaccines will work well against this strain but if you're not vaccinated, this is something that should cause concern and is all the more reason to get vaccinated. >> let's talk about the fda decision that okayed the pfizer vaccine for 12 to 15-year-olds. back in january, the world health organization director general warned we were on the brink of what he called catastrophic moral failure in terms of vaccine equity, saying, quote, it's not right that younger, healthier adults in rich countries are vaccinated before health workers and older people in poorer countries as well as those that are vulnerable. how does this complicate theeth cal discussion around vaccines by inoculating american teens
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who some would say are at low risk while you have thousands dying by the day in india? >> it's a really hard question, ayman. i think the truth is there are no good choices here. you know, i think it's impossible to make the right decision here. you know, i think a lot of our domestic vaccine producers in the u.s. government rightly have a responsibility to protect american citizens. so that's essentially what we're seeing here. but i think the director general makes a good point that it's hard to value and impossible to value one life against another. so i think everyone agrees that we have to find ways to increase supply to the rest of the world as quickly as possible. i think the u.s. is making steps in that regard. at the end of march, the restrictions on domestically manufactured vaccines expired, the pfizer plant in kalamazoo is exporting vaccines to canada and mexico now. so that will ramp up.
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>> to make that point, and it's an important point, obviously the biden administration supported the patent waiver for coronavirus vaccines. what could that mean for global efforts? some of the leading scientists who work on this say yes, even waiving the patent for the vaccine does not mean you're going to get the supply you need to deal with it right now. >> i actually agree with that, ayman. the problem with our current vaccine production is not, you know, intellectual property, although that's certainly valuable and that's a key part of vaccine production. the biggest issue and the biggest kind of choke point for vaccine production right now is access to raw materials. remember, the united states had to implement the defense production act just to get the raw materials to make vaccines here. until we have access to those raw materials in other parts of the world, just giving them the instructions to make the vaccine isn't going to be all that helpful. the other part of this is there is a discordance between the kind of politics around this and the timeline where this gets
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approved. this issue won't even go for a vote at the world trade organization until december, obviously which is seven months away. so i think this plays well in global health circles but the truth is it's unlikely to make any sort of impact in the short run on vaccine supplies in other parts of the world. >> dr. ramirez, i appreciate your candor and honesty on these tough issues. thank you. catch "vaccinating america," president biden will sit down with our own lawrence o'donnell. dr. anthony fauci, surgeon general vivek murthy, and xavier becerra will also join the conversation. coming up, congresswoman elise stefanik is expected to ascend to republican leadership. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance.
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derby winner medina spirit whose win was endangered by a drug race will be permitted to enter the race in maryland meaning the horse still has a shot at the prestigious triple crown. the conditions include a binding commitment by the owner to be transparent on drug tests for all his horses. wyoming congresswoman liz cheney will most likely be ousted tomorrow from her number three post in republican congressional leadership. her successor will likely be elise stefanik. however it was just two years ago that stefanik nominated cheney for her current leadership post which the two discussed during the 2019 forum on electing republican women recorded by c-span. >> i was very proud to nominate you to serve as our conference chair, umm, that is, uh, the
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highest position of women in the republican conference and we think you're a huge asset in that role. >> thank you, elise. >> joining us now, npr correspondent brian mann who covered stefanik from 2014 to 2020 as a reporter for north country public radio in new york. great to have you with us on this. what are some things you've learned about elise stefanik during your time covering her? >> what you saw in that clip is that this is a politician who is willing to adapt, leave old ideas and policies, and loyalties, behind. this is someone who was once very closely connected with the bush/cheney white house. she was close to liz cheney. but when this opportunity to step up came, she was willing to pivot, leave that behind, and jump at the chance. >> new york's 21st congressional district obviously went for barack obama back in 2012. interestingly, it went to donald trump by double digits both in 2016 and 2020.
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is elise stefanik changing because the district itself is changing or is there something else at play here? >> i think it's very clear that what's really at play with elise stefanik is that she's hugely ambitious. she telegraphed early in her career that she wanted to rise within the republican party to the highest positions of power that she could. she's an incredibly strategic thinker. she's built a national coalition of fundraising, of loyalties with other republican women who she's helped to elect. and so i think really that's what we're seeing here. obviously rural upstate new york has become more conservative like a lot of small town america. but really, i think what we're seeing here is very much groundwork that elise stefanik has been laying for a long time to try to rise nationally, to try to build her profile. and if that meant embracing donald trump, a man whose name back in 2016 she wouldn't speak out loud, a man whose policies she condemned early on, that
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kind of pivot is clearly something she's willing to do, including, remarkably, embracing this lie he's told about the 2020 election. she's amplified that, she's built on that. and that's something that if you told me four years ago that she would do, i would have been shocked. >> brian, we're almost out of time here but i wanted to just zero in on that. how did it change so quickly for her? she was once someone critical of president trump, she didn't always support his positions, voted against the 2017 tax bill and the border wall, and then became close to him during the impeachment. how did that change? >> i think, look, this is a woman who is very capable of making a big political transformation like this. she read the tea leaves. she saw where the republican party was going. she's all in with trump, because she believes that that is the future of this party. >> brian mann, greatly appreciate your insights. we'll see how this all plays out tomorrow. right now, andrew brown jr.'s family is viewing a
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total from four body cams and one dash cam. we're told the family will be able to view about 18 minutes the judge determined the only parts relevant to the family were parts that showed andrew brown. he only appears on camera for those 18 minutes of the video. the other parts before and after, the family will not be seeing today. the public will not be seeing any video today, as this judge made the determination a few weeks ago that he really wouldn't revisit the possibility of publicly releasing this for 30 to 45 days while the state bureau of investigation is doing their duty and reviewing this case. at this point we know the family is inside. they are reviewing the tape now. there is no time limit as to how long they can be in there. so they probably will watch it several times before they come out and tell us what their impressions are after seeing more of the video. they have seen 20 seconds of
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this video, but seeing the before and after moments may change the context, may give them more inside as to exactly what happened that day. eamon? >> let's talk about this releasing this to the public. there's been enormous pressure. the judge has vetoed that essentially. how important is it to do that? what is there no not be gained by releasing this to assure the public of what happened? >> it's of ultimate importance. this is insult to injury. it's the subjective discretion about this whole issue of both evidence in the investigation rather than having a formal and objective policy about it. we're all dancing on the tip of a needle here between the discretion exercised by local prosecutors, by the local law enforcement agency, and with the judiciary here all interpreting this distinction between disclosures and release and 20
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all of it builds up not just distrust for the family, but distrust for the community. this is before we even start overlaying the discretion about race involved in these types of incidents. >> let me ask about the breonna taylor coyle kids. it was found that the officers should not have fired their weapons. the department's upper brass partly rejetted that, saying the officers reacted reasonably. what do you make of this? does this provide proof that, as you were talking about there, use of force standards need to be changed? >> it's only one side of the coin and a reflect shun of the department doing its own analysis. i want to hear an after-action
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policy, which is best practices. i want to see civilian review. i want to see state evaluation, i want to see federal leadership. that's what's supposed to happen. these are best practices and we're avoiding that. this is a reflection of a lack of use policies that having been updated in decades these are all the problems that we'll see again and again and again. thanks to the both of you for that importance update. that wraps up the hour for me. i'll see you tomorrow. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts after this quick break. colle wallace r this quick break ronger and longer on pain than tylenol. when pain happens, aleve it.
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