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seconds to boot the congresswoman from leadership, this woman running to replace her makes it official. elise stefanik making her case to take over for her. as we speak this minute, lawmakers are gaveling in to hear, for the first time, from the person in charge of the pentagon that day talking about why help took so long. we have a ton of developing news let me bring in kaci hunt on capitol hill, barbara comstock, michael steel. one of the questions was what will the numbers be? we don't know, what are you hearing from inside of the room on how that vote went down? >> this was, of course a

question and liz cheney could have required a secret ballot recorded vote. she didn't do that and it tells you just ho dramatically support for her in the house republican con for instance has shifted since 100 plus people voted to have her retain that position just a few short months ago. so it is likely that their sense was asking for the accurate ballot would have been a show of strength. she is trying to project that these willing to take them all on. she walked straight down the middle of the room past all of the males that were voting to take her out. while a lot of the questions have been in the context of who will be the next speaker of the house, cheney is clearly focused

beyond that and as chatter increased about whether or not former president trump is likely to run for president again, she has her focus there. watch this exchange that i had with her right after she was ousted. >> how concerned are you that president trump might end up back in the oval office and what are you prepared to do to prevent it? >> i will do everything i can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the oval office. we have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. we have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the constitution. and i think that is very important to make sure that whomever we elect is someone that will be faithful to the constitution. >> a pretty remarkable statement there. of course hallie you spent four years covering the trump

administration and there was always people addimentally opposed to him. what changed after january 6th if anything. liz cheney changed the way she spoke about former president trump after the insir jex on january 6th. even kevin mccarthy did for a few days before changing his tune back again. so clearly cheney is setting herself up to try to be the leader of whatever portion of america is unableuncomfortable democrats holding the white houseut can't stomach what i happening here. >> she is throwing down where the battle lines on. barbara comstock. i want to go to you. thank you for being with us. i know you're still in touch with former colleagues on the house republican side. what are you hearing and what do you make of congresswoman cheney

this morning? >> i support liz cheney and adam kinsinger. i think the republicans are facing the big lie that is festering and it continues to be out there and to double down. and they're word ried about trump impacting their own elections. i think they are trying to go forward and i think there was a new focus group out today showing that with swing voters and independents they don't believe the big lie and they don't like the idea of exponging anyone because of the trump loyalty you have to have. so it is a big problem goi forward, and eveone in the room will be what was your position on this? i understand they probably wanted to go ahead with a voice

vote. i get it, liz i think understands. she was going to lose that vote, but that doesn't mean that when you go back home that people who have now been fed the big lie for six months are not going to demand more information on this and i think that dividing the party like this when trump only got 46.9 continues to diminish the party and i'm glad that. >> michael steele, i want to know if you agree with that, and i want to show our viewers here, there is a hearing happening as we heard for the first time from some of the key former you can't separate what is happening with

former president cheney, even as he comes out and calls her a horrible human being, a warmongerer, and more. >> absolutely i agree with barbara. and trump is sitting down there mar-a-lago thinking his minnons have yolked up liz cheney. what they have done is freed her up. they have given her now the space and the platform to speak truth to power every day in their face. and there ain't nothing they can do about it they can't laud the leadership position over her or that she is a republican from wyoming. she is the most free politician and the most dangerous politician for the republican party in washington. so i think you're going to see

despite what trump said and who cares what he says about liz whenny and anybody else. the fact that there are countless republican that's are fed up with this crazy, pushing back against this nonsense. and you will see them speak out not just against liz cheney and adam kinsinger. they have no place to go, there is a space for them to go and more and more americans will be part of that conversation as well. >> i want to get to garrett on that other hearing happening. >> i have been talking about this effort by one group, michael and barbara, basically threatening to leave the republican party if there are not changes in the gop. i understand the statement of

principal is supposes to be released tomorrow. you teed us up on this. i believe that you are part of that grouch, michael barbara, i know that you are, correct? >> yes, correct. >> you are a former rnc chair -- >> yeah, go ahead. >> i'm staying in fiekting in the party and i'm hoping that we can get good candidates and get people that will renounce the big lie and move past it to get back to issues. i think we have to have that discussion and realize that elections and majorities are decided by independent voters and certainly we have to get those people people not going to make a majority. it is the right thing to do for the country. if the leaders keep telling the

people that there was fraud in the elections, first of all our people are not going to show up to vote and suggestly it is just wrong. i feel badly for the people out there being fed by lies and they know it is not true. >> there was not much of a update back then. can you talk about what the where they are running to reand she has voted less in line than liz cheney did. >> the big lie is the republican party right now.

they throw around liberals and how the country they oust her to replace someone that is not even half in terms of her conservative bon fides. it's not about conservative. it is so barbara is right, i'm not going anywhere, i'm trying to stand and fix this stupid in the party. >> if you can't are you going to leave? you ran the rnc not that long ago. that may be a few stops down.

those of us that have been in this venue as long as we have. i remember when barbara comstock was like the rest of us trying to put out those centrals and those principals in her state of virginia. they still believe in those things. as the president himself has said, it is important to have a viable governing republican party. we need that. it is a oath to one person as exhibited by kevin mccarthy and his leadership in the house and that's what we're trying to bush back against. >> i know you have to go, thank you. i want to bring in here shannon pettypiece. you invoked the name of kevin mccar think, he has a meeting in

28 minutes, but the ousting of liz cheney was more than expected. and i will tell you this i spoke with a source close to the process that suggested that the expectations are very low for the meeting that is set to happen at the top of the program here. >> yeah, the timing of this really drives home what a different republican party president biden is having to work with now compared to the republican party just a decade ago. white house officials will say that the president worked with the republican party in the rise of the tea party and he can work with them now. certainly it is not lost less than an hour or two after ousting liz whenny arguing that

it was valid. all of that aside, they're looking to find common ground to started this bipartisan effort to get an agreement on infrastructure. everything aside, let's focus on infrastructure. where is the common ground. how can they get something done. mitch mcconnell says he is up to $600 or $800, maybe that's the start for talks today. >> i know you're waiting for developments as well. i want to go to garrett haaqe. both of you following this hearing as we speak. we're hearing an opening statement, and it is significant because for the first time we're going to hear from, among others, the person who is leading the pentagon and the

questions that lingered since about why it took so long to get the national guard back up to the capital that day. >> yeah, the former acting secretary of defense says he welcomes this hearing. he wants to clear up what he believes happened on jan 6th. feeling like the city's plan, the organized plan was not inadequate. the plan involved having guard officers around the city and they had traffic control. he will talk about his concern that in the lead up to van 6th. much of this is people seeing armed military officers around

the capital or in the district on that day might feed into the presengs that there was a military coup going on and that is more about the assets. and finally he will defend the speed on which they did ultimately respond to capitol hill saying based on his own experience that that the speed is quite good for the military once it was decided that it was needed. i suspect he will face a lot of questions today about what influence if any the only other personal up the chain of command had about his decision making. >> we'll dip in live when we starlet hearing about these key figures. one of them they are around former president trump. >> after bill bar left, if you had a choice he had a better for

information. between fbi, atf, and u.s. marshall service, the justice department was able to surge members in the capital before members of the national guard did. they have questions about if it will be tomorrowed or more. they do arrests and all of the sort of things. but he has, i think, he also says always he is concerned as well about the lack of coordination and he may get questions. they didn't have a better handle on what was going to happen that day. the question is on the response time and it is well to remember in terms of what the acting defense secretary says, that the

commander of the national guard says he thought the response was too slow. >> both of you watching this hearing as it happens. we're also bringing you more of that hearing on what happened on january 6th with the former acting defense secretary in just a moment when we hear from him in just a moment after the black. we hear from him in just a moment after the black. my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms

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we are back, we're seeing information here. for the first time we are the first, and the former acting attorney general as well. once those opening statements again we're going to bring you there live. we're looking at the ranking

republican member, of course. we heard from congresswoman maloney and she invoked congressman liz cheney's remarks on the house floor late yesterday. just before congressman cheney was ousted as the number three house republican leader. te has cost her her leadership position. she is promising to do everything she can to each president trump from doing anything again. it is you're there, what are you hearing from republicans and democrats in that state about their person getting booted? >> you know, it is actually near jackson hole, it is interesting because you will find moderate republicans here.

cheyenne as you know there it is a place that is a a little redder. they are looking for the republican party of old. take a listen to a few of what the moderate republicans had to tell us yesterday. >> i respect representative cheney for her conviction and her principals. >> now according to the people of wyoming that makes you a rino. >> yeah, that's a deep insult around here and i categorically deny it. >> i'm disturbed by the leadership, by the republican leadership. liz is someone i really respect, she has voted over 90% with trump and now she is accused of being disloyal. >> are you worried about the future of the party? >> yes, i think our party is bigger than this and i look back

on the great leaders in our party and i embrace both sides of the isle. >> they are a republican strong hold, right? this has liz cheney will stand for reelection in a place like jackson do democrats make a difference? maybe run someone who is far to the right of liz cheney. these are all things that people are watching very closely. cal, thank you very much for that. we have a programming note to share with you that is very significant. take a look at this i want to pull it up on screen. it's a tweet from savanna guthrie. she sat down with congresswoman liz cheney for an exclusive interview on nbc news. the first time the congresswoman

sat down for a one on one interview since she was booted from that position. she is of course still a sitting member of congress. that will air later today on msnbc and the full interview tomorrow morning on "the today show. you won't want to miss that one. we'll bring you that and more of the hearing on the capital riots with the acting defense secretary. we expect the witnesses to be sworn in any minute. they're getting ready to tee that up as we speak. we'll be right back. ee that up as we speak. we'll be right back. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! ( sighs wearily ) here, i'll take that! ( excited yell ) woo-hoo! ensure max protein. with thirty grams of protein, one-gram of sugar, and nutrients to support immune health! ( abbot sonic ) this is how you become the best!

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actions that day. i serve as the acting secretary of defense that day and i was responsible for the department of defense to support the local and federal law enforcement agencies who had primary responsibility for safeguarding the vice president. my background is summarized but i served for over 30 years. following my retirement i resumed government service in a number of positions including the national security council where i focused on defeating al qaeda and retooling the government to address the challenge of domestic terrorism. i was serving at the director of the national counter terrorism center. i served in that position until

the new administration took office and now i'm a private citizen that remains focused on supporting the members of the arms forces, veterans, and their families. for the events leading up to january 6ed, washington dc mayor bowser sent a request to the demanding general seeking unarmed national guard support to the district of columbia metropolitan police department for planned demonstrations. i formally approved the question for january 4th, 2021 and received no further requests for additional support. i want to highlight, you said in my opening statement that i would be -- i want to clarify at one, between 1:00 and 1:30 i noticed the outer perimeter was breached, not the capital

itself. that's one of the purposes of this hearing today, we want to get our lexicon straight. i want to remind you that during that time there was irresponsible commentary by the media about a possible military coupe. and that advisors of the president were declaring martial law. i was also cognizant of the use of the military due to protests near the white house. just before the college certification ten former secretaries of defense signed an op-ed published warning of the dangers criticizing inappropriately using the military. no such thing was going to occur on my watch. but these concerns and the hysteria about them factored into my decisions regarding the appropriate and unlimited use of the civilian law enforcement. my onobligation to the nation w to prevent a crisis.

they have resulted in violations of americans and civil rights and even in the case of the kent state protests for the vietnam war tragic deaths. i fervently believe that they should not utilize such scenarios other than as a last resort an only when all other assets have been expended. 8,000 local and federal law enforcement officers were on due it in the direct of columbia. i was told during sessions that such a course routinely managed it's demonstrations well north of 100,000 demonstrators. many commentators misguided and contributed to the inability of the guard to respond or that those instructions would somehow enable the mob to enjoy an easy

path to the capitol. that is completely false. we did not disarm the guard. the request from the mayor was for unarmed support of local law enforcement. we authorized the sporgs they requested. at about 2:30 it became clear to me that local and federal law enforcement personnel were insufficient to great the situation at the department of defense required to play much larger role in reestablishing order and maintaining security in washington dc. at 3:00 p.m. i approved the activation and mobilization of the full district of columbia national guard. at 5:20 p.m., national guard personnel arrived and started operations in support of domestic law enforcement entities there. order was restored by 8:00 p.m. that evening and results were certified. those of you that understand the nature of mill tire deploint understand how rapid the

response was. it reflected inexperience with or lack of understanding of the nature of military operations or worse, simply the result of politics. i suspect a combination of both factors. there are complexities in the urban environment and the critics disregard the role that the military must play. this is not a video game where you can change the time requires to synchronize with a number of other entities involved or complying with the important legal requirements involved with the use of such forces. i have been in more crisis situations. i have been riots, fistfights, brawls, mortar, rockets, and as a leader i have commanded forces to engage in the most complexion

and hazardous operations. good leaders slow things down to plan and then safe their soldiers times and lives. conducted an abbreviated plans session, and briefing all of those involved with their task, mission, purpose, limits, coordinating and synchronizing other domestic agencies in the ground to guarantee the movement supported their efforts. moving them from the assembly point to the appropriate location and deputizing them by a civilian law enforcement official prior to employing them. there is not a mere symbolish exercise, it all takes time. i also had responsibility to the members of armed forces, but i want them to succeed and spare

unnecessary exposure and spare everyone consequences from poor planning or execution. we needed to impress upon the mob that the situation had changed. so that the balance of power would shift back and it was in their best interest to give up quickly. anyone familiar with the character of military operations understand the enormous accomplishment of the district of columbia national guard. the militaries response that day responded at "sprint speed. i stand by every decision i made and i want to emphasize that the nation's armed forces are to be

deployed for domestic law enforcement only when all civilian assets are extended. to use them for the law enforcement is necessary, i ask you to consider what the media had been if i unilaterally deployed thousands of troops that morning against the express wishes of the mayor and the capital police that indicated they were prepared. i know that the brave law enforcement officers serving on the front lines on january 6th 2021 did their best to protect the capitol and the individuals many of whom are on this hearing today were in harm's way from a law less mob. i'm tremendously proud of those

soldiers and airmen that answered the call and in the subsequent weeks to support domestic law enforcement and their constitution. listening to them and trying to support them as best as i could. they were the high points of my term as the acting secretary of defense. they are america's treasure and our true patriots. our true patriots. we must be worthy of their service and sacrifice. thank you. >> thank you. mr. rosen, you're now recognized for your testimony, mr. rosen? >> good morning, i'm jeff rosen and from december 24, 2020, until now, i appreciate the opportunity to discussion the actions taken by want department

of justice to help restore the capitol to enable the completion of the electoral college vote and to begin the process of bringing to justice those that attacked the capitol. the events were a national travesty and an attack on our democratic values. for those that risked their safety to protect everyone at the capital i honor your bravery. to the families of the capital police officers or others who were injured that day or died, i extend my deepest sympathy. and to all of you and your staff that lived through that day, i share the justified anger at what you endured. i also take solice in the fact that our republic never faltered. builders were breached, but the constitution and our shared values were bullwork against the

violent mob. the department of justice prepared appropriately in the period before january 6th and i'm proud of the department's response on january 6th when we urgently deployed more than 500 agents and officers from the fbi, atf, and u.s. marshalls to assist in restoring order. that includes the fbi personally going to the rotunda while the intrusion was still under way. all of these outstanding men and women moved with urgency to assist the capital police in the midst of an unprecedented security breach to help clear and secure the

hallowed epicenter of the golf. i'm proud of the swift action taken there after by doj personnel, the fbi, and the dc u.s. attorney's office to investigate and where appropriate, begin to prosecute those responsible for the disgraceful attack on the capital. i appreciate the importance of today's oversight hearing and i welcome the opportunity to share with you what i know about the january 6th events, of my prior role at the department of justice. the justice department must always be guided by our constitution and the rule of law. that is what guided me. the department of justice acted with the utmost integrity and urgency to support our government to the best of our abilities when the branch came under attack. the violence of the capital should never be repeated.

as a society, we need to restore greater respect for our constitution, for our representative former government, and for the rule of law. i look forward to your questions about january 6th but you should know there are unavoidable limitations on the testimony that i can give at this time. my access to information is limited because noim longer with the department of js. my memory is unlikely to be perfect as i'm sure for all of us there are some aspects sered in memory and other that's have been a blur. i have been authorized to testify fear today on tern -- certain topics.

maintaining some information on confidence and also must avoid making any statements that could interfere with investigations and prosecutions of individuals involved in the events of january 6th. i appreciate your patience and understanding for those. >> thank you. >> good morning members of the committee. i'm the head of the primary police fort, i appreciate this

to address you. it is important that all americans find answers to questions about the 6th. i will relate today you the facts as we know them at this time based on the point of view of the metropolitan department. as with any of them, with multiple agencies, and amost as many cameras as people, there will be several perspective that's need to align as the information is gathered. i would like to highlight a few key things. including mpd and those of congressional and federal authorities. first, mp is prohibited from entering the capital or it's grounds to patrol, make arrests,

or serve warrants without the question or consent of the capital police board. second unlike any other jurisdiction in the country the president of the united states controls the dc national guard. any request submitted by the mayor to mobilize the dc national guard must be approved by the president and the scope of the request must limited to requests for the entity. they have to be made by capital police with the consent of the department of defense. third, since mayor bowser declared a public emergency in march of 2020, they have not issued permits for any large gatherings. we were prepared to support the warrants with a first amendment

assembly held primarily on federal land while responding to calls for service. they have demonstrations and the possibility of violence on city streets and the department was fully deployed. with days off and they are canceled. our federal partners, they peach have a primary responsibility. park police were focused on the ellipse, and police have responsibility for the capitol, buildings, and grounds. in advance of the demonstrations mutual aid was requested to be on standbuy in the district and more than 300 members of the dc national guard regarding traffic control and other services to allow mpd to support the first

amendment attemptably and continue to provide service to dc members. what follows is mpd's roles in these events. at 12:45 p.m. the first of two pipe bombs were found. first at the national headquarters, second at the national democratic committee headquarters. at 12:58 p.m., they asked for mpds assistance to address the growing mob at the capitol. officers were immediately authorized to deploy to the west front of the capitol and deploy within minutes. it was a chaotic scene. the violent mob overran measures at the capital. mpd platoons immediately started working to achieve our objectives. one to stop drivers from entering the capital building

and to remove those already inside. two, secure a perimeter for the capital could be cleared for lawmakers. third enable congress to resume their sessions to demonstrate to our country and the world that our democracy was still in tact. and four, lastly, once the third objective was accomplished, start making arrests of anyone violating the law. at 2:22, a call was convened with among others, myself, the dc national guard and the department of the army. on this call the capitol police chief made an urgent request for support from the national guard due to the dire situation we were facing. in the meantime, the district had requested additional officers from as far away as new jersey and issued a city wide curfew beginning at 6:00 p.m. the even hours between the

urgent call from help, to the mpd and the resumption of the work at 8:00 p.m., will be forever etched in the memories of every law enforcement officer who was on the scene and it is undoubtedly in the minds of the elected officials, congressional staff, and other capital employees forced to seek safety behind locked doors. other harm will be widely felt, but possibly unacknowledged. it neither amendments or prepares for hours for hand to hand contact. even of brief physical fights are emotionally draining. i appreciate the opportunity to highlight the heroism of officers that responded to the capital and put their lives on the line to protect the capital, congress, and the democracy.

the federal enclave, mpd officers, and others, must be frank at looking at several different issues. the federal officers are re-examining their protocols. as chief of i must think about our preparations not only for possible attacks but the daily impact of the changing operations of our federal partners. as they harden targets in the federal enclave, other buildings may become more likely targets. thank you, again, for the opportunity to brief you today. i'll be happy to answer questions as we try to come to terms with january the 6th. thank you. >> thank you. i now recognize myself for questions. on january 6th, congress was fulfilling its constitutional duty to certify the results of the presidential election. when vice president pence, speaker pelosi, and other members of congress had to be

quickly evacuated because abrea capital. mr. miller, you were the acting secretary of defense on january 6th. did president trump as commander in chief call you during the january 6th attack to ensure the capitol was being secured? mr. miller? >> no. i had all of the authority i needed from the president to fulfill my constitutional duties. >> did you speak with president trump at all as the attack was unfolding? >> on january 6th? >> yes. >> no. i did not. i had all the authority i needed and i knew what had to happen. >> did you speak with vice president pence during the attack, yes or no? >> yes. >> according to a defense department time line it was vice president pence and not president trump who called during the siege to say the

capitol was not secure and to give you the direction to, quote, "clear the capitol." what specifically did vice president pence say to you that day? >> vice president is not in the chain of command. he did not direct me to clear the capitol. i discussed very briefly with him the situation. he provided insights based on his presence there and i notified him -- or i informed him that by that point the district of columbia national guard was fully mobilized and in connection with law enforcement to clear the capitol. >> according to the dod time line the vice president's call to you occurred at 4:08 p.m. more than two hours after the capitol had been breached. according to this time line it was not until after your call with vice president at 4:32 p.m. that you authorized dc national

guard troops to deploy to the capitol. did you issue your order in response to the vice president's call? >> no. i asked to provide all necessary support civilian and local and federal law enforcement at -- i gave approval at 3:00 p.m. and the order was issued at 3:04 p.m. >> mr. miller, your order to deploy came only 24 minutes after the vice president called you and your testimony is that they are unrelated? do i have that right? >> i'm sorry. you're going to have to say that again. >> that's hard for me to believe, but i'm going to move on. >> what's the question? >> excuse me. mr. rosen, let me now turn to you. you were the acting attorney general on january 6th, and you reported directly to the president.

did you speak to president trump on january 6th at all? >> i did not. i did not require any authorities that the department didn't already have. >> well, i think that the lack of direct communication from president trump speaks volumes. president trump swore an oath to protect the constitution and to execute his duties as commander in chief. when his supporters attacked our nation's capitol, the president was nowhere to be found leaving it to others to scramble to respond. i would like to close with a few simple questions. mr. rosen, you were the head of the justice department on january 6th. do you believe the 2020 presidential election was stolen from president trump? >> chairwoman maloney, i addressed that issue in my

written statement and i don't have anything beyond that other than to say there was no evidence presented of widespread fraud of a sufficient scale to overturn the election. >> and mr. miller, based on his actions leading up to january 6th and on the day of the attack, do you believe president trump fulfilled his oath to execute his duties as president and to preserve, protect and defend the constitution? >> yes. >> well, i think the evidence is clear. the president refused to lift a finger to send aid after he incited a violent rebellion against our republic. the president, therefore, betrayed his oath of office and betrayed his constitutional duty. my time has expired, and i now recognize the gentleman from arizona. >> thank you, madam chairwoman.

outright propaganda and lies are being unleashed against law abiding citizens, especially trump voters. the fbi is fishing through homes of veterans and citizens with no criminal records and restricting the liberties of individuals that have never been accused of a crime. mr. biden calls january 6th the worst attack since the civil war. a president was impeached for his alleged role in that riot. it was reported early totally unconfirmed that an armed insurrection to beat a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. federal prosecutor michael sherwin continued the, quote, "shock and awe" strategy. many of my colleagues opposed that strategy in iraq.

we should oppose its application against american citizens. mr. rosen, you claim that the doj would spare no resources. mr. rosen, did the doj confiscate any firearms from suspects charged with breaching the capitol on january 6th? >> congressman, as i alluded to in my opening remarks, there are certain limitations regarding pending investigations and prosecution. >> i'll look forward to answer people that can answer from capitol police and fbi. but the answer is no. zero firearms with people breaching the capitol. mr. rosen, was the officer killed with rioters with a fire extinguisher? >> congressman, the officer was there acting in the line of duty and went into harm's way and i

think as others have said he acted as one of many heroes on that day. >> mr. rosen, i don't take hero lightly. he died of natural causes. mr. rosen, was a single individual at or outside the capitol on january 6th charged with a crime of insurrection? >> again, if you're asking me about charges that were either made, pending, or being investigated, i'm sorry. i'm not in a position to address those. >> once again to my knowledge, not a single person has been charged with the crime of insurrection. do you recall a young lady wrapped in a u.s. flag killed in u.s. capitol? >> i do. >> was ashley armed? >> again, congressman, i mean to

be respectful of your observations but i just don't want to talk about individual situations or -- >> no. she wasn't. she was wrapped in a u.s. flag. was the death of ashley a homicide? >> congressman, i'm not trying to be unhelpful here but i just can't comment. >> i understand. as the death certificate says, it was a homicide. who executed ashley babbot? >> congressman, i'll say the same thing. i don't want to get into the specifics facts. >> thank you very much. now, chief, what are the rules of engagement at the d.c. protest? >> at d.c. protests, sir, the only time that we engage with riot gear is in situations where there's an actual attack that's going on, sir. i'm not sure of --

>> i appreciate you. thank you for your service. madam chairwoman, my constituents demand answers but the truth is being covered up. doj is harassing pea patriots across the country. without accurate answers, conspiracies continues to form. riot enabler and representative who objected to the electors in 2016 without the required support of a senator filed an ethics complaint against me for following the law under code 15 electrical account act which she herself failed at in 2016. 33 of my democratic colleagues speculated that republican members of congress gave tours to protesters offering no proof whatsoever. i asked for capitol footage from before and during january 6th. it could contain evidence