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thank you for your service. madam chairwoman, my constituents demand answers but the truth is being covered up. doj is harassing pea patriots across the country. without accurate answers, conspiracies continues to form. riot enabler and representative who objected to the electors in 2016 without the required support of a senator filed an ethics complaint against me for following the law under code 15 electrical account act which she herself failed at in 2016. 33 of my democratic colleagues speculated that republican members of congress gave tours to protesters offering no proof whatsoever. i asked for capitol footage from before and during january 6th. it could contain evidence
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regarding the outrageous accusations against members of congress and exonerate many americans who peacefully protested and never stepped foot in the capitol. isn't security footage paid for by public taxpayers should be provided to public defenders? >> congressman, i'm going to have to refer to my opening remarks again. there are certain limitations i have here today. >> i believe the american public should see that footage. madam chairwoman, i and the american people commend you for holding this hearing. if my democratic colleagues really want the truth, they would join me in demanding the release of this footage of january 6th. >> gentleman yields back. good wednesday morning to you, everyone. craig melvin here. buckle up, folks. it's going to be a very busy hour.
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we're following minute by minute developments in our nation's capital. right now at the white house president biden is weather with the congressional leadership of both parties from the house and senate. it will be house minority leader kevin mccarthy, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's first in-person meeting with president biden since he took office. president biden standing by there to meet with the big four. we'll watch for them to come out of that door. we'll take you there and see if they have some remarks for us. see whether they talk about that meeting. this is all fresh off mccarthy calling a voice vote to oust liz cheney from republican leadership. 126 days before we move on here. let's see if anyone we recognize comes out of that door. we'll keep an eye on that door there at the white house.
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meanwhile, it has been a 126 days since the january 6th insurrection. cheney booted for speaking out against the big lie pushed by the former president. this is what congresswoman cheney said after that vote. >> we must go forward based on truth. we cannot both embrace the big lie and embrace the constitution. we cannot be dragged backward by the very dangerous lies of a former president. >> meanwhile, seconds ago some breaking news. we now know when republicans will be voting on cheney's replacement. we're also following a big development with this pandemic that's on the horizon today. this hour cdc panel meeting about green lighting pfizer's faction vaccine for children ages 12 to 14. on the hill this hour, hearings on domestic violent extremism on the insurrection, on this
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pandemic, and on climate change. all of that happening right now. so stick with us. let's start with that big reshuffling in the house. something that politico is calling "sacrificing wyoming congresswoman liz cheney at the altar of donald trump." she got a question into cheney after her ouster. i want to bring in doug. he was deputy chief of staff for former house republican majority leader eric cantor and communications director for the republican national committee. kasie, let me start with you. what more can you tell us about the replacement? >> reporter: she hasn't wasted much time, craig. just a few moments after this voice vote unfolded announcing she was going to run to replace
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her. that was a bit of a foregone conclusion although she has a more moderate record than liz cheney and work to do with conseratives that she'll stick with them on tough votes and not buck the party line because she's had an evolution from someone who is part of a swing district who worked for paul ryan in the gop establishment to someone who now is an incredibly loyal donald trump foot soldier essentially and that's been her pitch to the conference. now liz cheney, of course, ousted for her insistence that she was not going to stay quiet. she was not going to stop talking about the dangers around the lies that the president tells about the election and that led to insurrection here in this building and death of a police officer in the course of that day and many more injuries. when i had a chance to speak with her briefly as she spoke to
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reporters after she was ousted by voice vote, i asked her in talking to people who are close to her it's clear that she is thinking about what comes next in 2020. as kevin mccarthy thinks about speaker in 2022. i asked her how far she would go to prevent former president trump from ever holding office again. here's what she said. >> i will do everything i can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the oval office. we have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. we have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the constitution. and i think it's very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the constitution. >> president significant words there, craig. and as our viewers may know if
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they've been watching for the past few months, our own savann guthrie tweed she sat down with liz cheney exclusively in the wake of this vote, so i expect we'll hear much more from the congresswoman about what's happened here and what's next for her, craig. >> absolutely. we'll have that for you tomorrow morning on "today." take us inside the room for a moment, if you can. were we surprised at all that it was going to be a voice vote or was that expected? and then what happened after the vote? >> reporter: sure. so we weren't 100% sure. we expected that it was possible that there would be a secret ballot recorded vote on this but it's clear that momentum had swung away from cheney. she would have likely been the one who demanded that recorded vote. five others would have had to step up and say they wanted as well. there was risk for her in demanding that not only would have it dragged out the
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inevitable but a tally to put up against the overwhelming support she got from members just a few months ago when there was another vote of no confidence for her. if she does want to continue to find a path for herself going forward, i think it may be more helpful to not have that on the record at this point. inside the room people who were opposed to cheney described the voice vote against her as deafening and overwhelming. other supporters say it wasn't as definitive as that but one source did tell me that she was upfront on the stage. this vote took place in a congressional auditorium and walked up the center aisle through mostly men who had voted to oust her and she came straight to the cameras. she's really trying to own this and take a step into the spotlight as she tries to take on former president trump.
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>> she has certainly raised her profile. as all of this is happening on the hill, there's a pretty big meeting happening at the white house. four big congressional leaders from both parties. a new email out that we've obtained selling the team to refocus on biden saying, "we as a conference must remain focused on stopping speaker pelosi and president biden's socialist agenda." how are the dynamics of what just happened shaping this meeting, shannon, or are they? >> reporter: i think, craig, it speaks to what a different republican party president biden is dealing with now compared to the one he dealt with as vice president or during all those decades in the senate. the fact that you have the house minority leader coming to the white house here just a few hours after ousting a member
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from a leadership role essentially because she acknowledged biden's victory and she was pushing back against this lie that biden's election was illegitimate. white house officials say that biden has worked through a lot of difficult times and changes and transformations in the republican party. he worked with the tea party. he's going to try to do it again. but certainly that is hanging in the backdrop here. now, white house officials also say that they're trying to put this in the background. they want to talk about infrastructure and they want to talk about where they can find common ground. we have heard the president saying for weeks now that he is open to compromise. he wants to work with republicans on a deal and now we're starting to see the real concrete steps toward getting to that compromise not only this meeting today but he will meet later this week with another group of republicans who was meeting with moderate democrats earlier in the week with the deadline of trying to make some significant progress by memorial
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day. the white house says that's the point where they're going to reassess this bipartisanship strategy and if they're not seeing progress by memorial day they'll decide whether to go alone and get something through with just democratic support. >> all right. doug, let me come to you here because kasie hunt made a point that i want to dig into. it raises liz cheney's profile significantly. the question now becomes what does she do with it? does she take the mantel as the head of the anti-trump wing of the republican party? >> well, potentially so given her op-ed in "the washington post" last week and talked about short-term political consequences. this morning were the short-term. she's focused on the long-term. this is a long game for her for weeks and months now even going back to 2020 when she was being attacked by republicans for standing up for dr. fauci, suggesting we wear a mask, being
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critical of trump administration policies. even though she wasn't going after trump specifically. but what we see now, craig, is of "star wars" saying if you strike me down you will only make me stronger. there's no one in the country right now who is focused on the internal republican conference. every email i got from my home state in north carolina is from gas lines and gas stations being closed. this means moving forward she'll have an increased voice and that's a negative voice geared toward the president. if republicans want to move past this and focus on the joe biden and his agenda, that's donald trump. if donald trump shuts up about big lie and stolen elections, they can move forward. i wouldn't bet on that happening. >> you mention the former president. he wasted no time putting out a
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statement about liz cheney. a disparaging statement. a statement we're not going to share right now. he has already commented. doug, more than 100 prominent republicans including former elected officials are planning to release a call for reforms for the gop and they're threatening to form a third party of these reforms aren't made. how serious of an effort is that and how could a split impact republican election chances less than two years from now? >> i will tell you the bad news today, craig, is that the house republican conference is a very serious accurate reflection of where the republican primary voter is. that's a smaller republican party. republicans have left the party about one in six have left the party because of what happened in january 6th and trump's rhetoric after the election. so as a viable third party there? it's really hard to see how that
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happens. of course, it's been hard to see how a lot of what has happened would have happened in 2020 hindsight. this is a very difficult thing to do. >> all right. doug, stay with me if you can, please, sir. casey hunt, thank you. shannon, a big thanks. as kasie just mentioned, my colleague savannah guthrie just sat down to interview congresswoman liz cheney. her first interview since the vote to remove her as gop conference chair. a picture from savannah's twitter account. that interview will air exclusively tomorrow morning on "today." also happening now, trump officials are testifying in front of the house oversight committee. this is congresswoman steven lynch from massachusetts testifying right now but the hearing centers on the delayed response back on january 6th.
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christopher miller is one of the witnesses and mr. miller used his moment to strongly defend his decision making. >> i stand by every decision i made on january 6th and the following days. i want to emphasize that our nation's armed forces are to be deployed for domestic law enforcement only when all civilian assets are expended and only as an absolute last resort. >> all right. we go to the hill this morning. garrett, congresswoman was just speaking and you flagged our team to some comments that may be telling. why is that? what was said? >> what's happening in this hearing intersects with the cheney story pretty clearly. the congressman redirected the topic here back to the speech
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that former president trump was giving on that day and chastised democratic members for saying that speech had anything to do with the capitol riot, which i think any thinking person knows that it does. the president was directing his supporters to fight against what was going on directing them to stop the steal. you have republican members running interference for the former president in a hearing like this which is designed to be about why the military response in particular was as slow as it was and what led up to that. again, i think this goes directly to the same conversation we're having about the republican party more broadly here is what are they about, what are they going to use their position in the house for. this is the kind of thing that a conference chair liz cheney would say you need to focus on what happened and not what we politically want to have happened with what the former president said or did. one of the interesting answers here from former secretary miller to this panel, he said
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that at no time on january 6th did he ever have any conversation with then president trump about what was going on at the capitol. the democrats jumping on that as absence of leadership from the former president in that moment of crisis. >> as we understand it, he also said, the former acting defense secretary, that any criticism of the military response on january 6th is either rooted in a lack of understanding or politics. what are some of the other moments that have stood out to you as you listened in there? >> this is going to be key to this debate here. he makes the argument that in the leadup to january 6th the context is important here and that he was very concerned about pictures from six months earlier, in fact. the events of june 1st when the lafayette square was cleared and idea of armed men on the streets of d.c., military assets
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deployed in a civilian policing capacity and that was the kind of thing he was trying to avoid. what you had were unarmed guardsmen assisting d.c. police with things like traffic control around the district and that unlike in a video game or in an action movie, when it became clear that the actual police were overwhelmed, d.c.'s national guard moved as quickly as it could have under his direction to respond to the capitol. that's being disputed a little bit by one of the other witnesses. chief conte, the chief of d.c. police, said if d.c. were a normal national guard unit under the direction of a governor instead of under the direction of dod, he thinks it could have got there faster. still significant finger pointing about why the response was what it was on january 6th. >> all right. doug, i mean, we've been listening in and watching the gop members there in that hearing spent no time at all
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turning it into an opportunity to go after the biden administration. what do you make of that? especially considering so many of these members also voted to overturn the election results. >> obviously they were there that day. it was their lives that were on the line that day so how quickly some of them forget is troubling and i look at this and i look at past hearings that we've seen over not just this year but last year and the year before. there's been a real devolution in the seriousness of congressional hearings whether what we see today or members eating fried chicken, this highlights the need to get to the bottom of the truth and best way to do that is to have a bipartisan nonelected official january 6th commission to get to the bottom of this and look for the truth wherever that truth may be and make the serious recommendations from there. unfortunately, so often now we can't depend on congress to do the right thing. >> doug, you make a note worthy
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point. the folks who are conducting these hearings and these investigations are the very ones whose lives were literally at stake back on january 6th. doug, thank you. garrett, back to your hearing. a big thanks to you as always. did we mention this was a very busy wednesday morning? we're keeping an eye on that hearing on the january 6th riot. we're also watching this stakeout camera at the white house because at this minute president biden is inside with top four congressional leaders including his first sit down with mccarthy. we'll go live if those leaders walk out and start talking. another big hearing on capitol hill that we haven't been able to get to just yet. right now attorney general and dhs secretary testifying about
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the threat of domestic violent extremism. we'll have a breakdown of that later this hour. first, some more breaking news in the derek chauvin murder trial. a new ruling from a minnesota judge just coming into the newsroom and it paves the way for the former officer to get a longer sentence. that's next. we'll also check in on the new push to vaccinate teenagers. the cdc committee meeting right now to decide whether to approve the pfizer vaccine for teenagers. some states are not waiting for that approval. we'll go live to a state that has already started giving shots to kids that age. alev all day strong. it only takes a second for an everyday item to become dangerous. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs
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you feel like you're winning. president biden meeting wit congressional leaders. let's go back to the white house for just a moment if we can. mike is standing by. i apologize in advance. the president there flanked by speaker of the house and off camera o'connell and schumer. what can we expect from this meeting? >> reporter: this is the big question. there are multiple meetings the president is having this week with lawmakers. it's notable that the meeting with the so-called big four, the top democrats, the top republicans in the house and senate is probably the one expected to yield the least. it sounds like we're about to hear from the president. >> let's listen in. sorry. >> mcconnell and leader mccarthy
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and speaker pelosi and majority leader schumer and we're going to talk about today is -- you know, when i ran i said i wasn't going to be a democratic president but a president for all americans. we're going to see if we can reach a consensus on compromise and talk about infrastructure and see if we can reach a compromise that gets peoples work done and in the bounds of everyone agreeing. that's the purpose of this meeting. not much more to say right now. we're going to get going. that's it. >> reporter: how do you expect to do that, sir? >> just snap my fingers. it will happen. >> thank you, guys.
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>> thank you. thank you. >> thanks, guys. >> okay. well, usually we can make out at least one or two of the shouted questions. i wasn't able to make out any of the shouted questions there at the president. we did hear president biden say that this was going to be a meeting primarily focused on infrastructure and the president has said time and time again that he's willing to compromise with republicans on this infrastructure bill. i think the question becomes compromise how much and compromise on what parts of it? >> first of all, craig, i should
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say as somebody who has been in the oval office for what you just saw and heard, they are just as chaotic as that sound especially on a day like today when there are so many subjects that you want to ask the president about and it sounded like all reporters were asking them at once. you did hear him respond to this question of how would you reach compromise with republicans and he made light of it and joked he can just snap his fingers. obviously he knows it's much harder than that. you heard him refer to one of the key promises he made to voters during the campaign that he wanted to reach across the aisle to work with republicans in congress. in fact, he said during the campaign that that wasn't just his preference, that it's a necessity for governing. he said the counry would be in trouble if that doesn't happen. he made bold promises a progressive agenda that would make him the most progressive president since franklin rose
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rosevelt. how do you compromise those two? the meetings he's had before this one with senators on the democratic side and meetings he has with the lead republican negotiator are probably the more important meetings than the one we're seeing now even as important as this big four meeting is. the white house has been clear that they do want to try to find compromise. i spoke with legislative affairs director for the white house in the last few days. there were more than 130 meetings at the white house with members of congress in the president's first 100 days and doing this one at a time taking this seriously. but when you look back at the way joe biden has negotiated throughout his career and reached compromises with republicans before, it's been because he knows where republicans stand and he's able to find that common ground. when is this meeting happening, craig? it's after the house republicans just purged from their leadership critical of president trump. his shadow looms large over the
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party. the president said he wants a strong republican party. he wants a negotiating partner but he doesn't really have one right now. so that really does lead to what so many democrats are saying that they're just skeptical. there is ultimately republicans willing to put themselves out there and reach across the aisle for the middle and why they think they'll ultimately have to go this alone. >> all right. mike, thank you, sir, as always, at the white house. let's get back to the other breaking news that we're following this morning. a development involving convicted murderer derek chauvin. a minnesota judge has just ruled that chauvin abused his authority as a police officer when he restrained george floyd last year. that decision paves the way for the former minneapolis police officer to get a longer sentence. nbc's gabe gutierrez has been covering this story from the beginning. gabe, explain the thinking here
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from judge cahill behind the ruling and what happens next. >> during the trial coverage you heard a lot about aggravating factors and that is what the judge decided today saying that there were aggravating factors present and that that will likely mean a longer sentence for derek chauvin. among those aggravaing factors he abused his authority as police officer and treated floyd with cruelty and pinned floyd down in the presence of children. that's obvious if you saw the testimony. a 9-year-old girl testified that floyd was pinned right in front of her. the judge did, however, disagree with prosecutors and he said that they did not prove that floyd was particularly vulnerable. basically what this all means, craig, is that if you look at the sentencing guidelines, this most serious charge of second-degree murder average 12 1/2-year prison sentence. with aggravating factors that
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kicked up to 40 years in prison and that's what we had been talking about when we said that chauvin faced up to 40 years in prison. legal experts do say he's unlikely to get that much and potentially get around 30 years depending on time off for good behavior and see the rest of parole. we're all waiting to see what happens. this basically sets the stage for derek chauvin's sentencing now set for june 25th. by the way, craig, the last week those federal civil rights indictments came down. if chauvin were convicted on those federal civil rights charges, that sentence would be served at the same time of his state charges and by the way, the three other officers involved in this case are still set to go to trial later this summer in august, craig. >> all right. developments there this morning with the chauvin sentencing. gabe gutierrez, it's been a long time since i've seen you inside a studio.
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good to see you nonetheless. thank you, my friend. the federal charges right now, the man who leads the justice department, homeland security secretary both testifying before the senate appropriations committee. right now that is the senator from connecticut there. they are addressing concerns about -- excuse me. delaware. thank you. it's been one of those mornings. senator from delaware there. and there is the secretary there speaking right now. this is a hearing that's addressing concerns about the threats of extremism and domestic terrorism. this is part of the opening statement. >> espousing extremist ideology is not a crime. nor is expressing hateful views or associated with hateful groups.
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but when someone tries to promote or impose an ideology through acts of violence, those acts can be the most dangerous crimes we confront as a society. >> all right. this hearing coming as dhs is rolling out a new system that collects and analyzes security threats from public social media posts. don't panic buy. that is the message from experts as gas stations up and down the east coast face shortages after that massive pipeline cyberattack but drivers aren't getting the message. >> i'm going to fill up all the way just in case. you never know. >> i've been here for 45 minutes to get gas. >> we're all out of gas.
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the pfizer covid vaccine for kids between the ages of 12 and 15. they are combing through the data from pfizer's clinical trial that finds it's 100% effective for that age group. the fda expanded pfizer's emergency use authorization on monday to that age group and at this very moment, kids as young as 12 are already getting vaccinated in georgia. the state expanded eligibility on tuesday. they did that ahead of the cdc's formal approval. nbc's allison barber is at a vaccine site in stone crest, georgia. they are offering the pfizer shot to anyone over 12. what are you hearing from parents and from kids actually getting that shot? >> reporter: you know, for a lot of families, we know this from just looking at the polling, making the decision as to whether or not to vaccinate their child is not necessarily
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an easy decision. we've seen in polls there is a good bit of hesitancy among parents but for some this is just a no-brainer. we spoke to one parent who as soon as they found out that her 13-year-old was eligible, she made him an appointment and took him to a vaccination site in fulton county by lunchtime. listen to what she told us. >> the risk of covid even though it might be smaller for a child is still riskier to get covid than it is to take this vaccine. >> reporter: so georgia is actually one of three states now allowing individuals between the ages of 12 and 15 to get the pfizer vaccine if they have the proper parental consent and want to do that. the fda's emergency use is not a completely new eua. it amended one they passed related to pfizer vaccine in december.
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the cdc advisory group that we expect to meet later today did issue guidance previously so some of that is at play here as to why these states are moving ahead. in georgia speaking with a spokesperson with the department of public health, they said they want to get people vaccinated in this state and try to get people as vaccinated as quick as possible, they felt like this was the right move. craig? >> allison barber in stone crest, georgia. thank you. i want to bring in the medical director of special pathogens unit at boston medical center and msnbc medical contributor. let's start with what we just heard. what do you make of what those parents and kids had to say about getting the vaccine? >> craig, i think the cdc advisory committee is likely to follow the fda's recommendation
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of the amendment and what i would say is that there's -- in my mind there's four reasons parents should consider vaccinating their concern. one, the safety data seems quite clear. the signal shows that even the side effects are quite similar to what adults are facing and there's no additional concerns for safety. as you heard allison say and you said earlier, 100% so risk of covid is higher. other two reasons is return to normalcy. getting this vaccine allows kids who may go to camps over the summer or return to school or doing social activities can return to normalcy and rest of us to normalcy because you see that we need to reach that community level immunity so that people are not transmitting the virus asymptomatically to those still vulnerable.
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i would recommend parents consider vaccinating the children for both their safety and our return to normalcy. >> doctor, tonight msnbc is hosting a town hall with president biden and his covid response team hoping to answer questions that people have about the vaccine. as a practicing doctor yourself, what's the biggest concern that you hear from patients and what do you tell them? >> craig, the most recent widespread disinformation that i'm hearing from patients that they hear from others is why are these vaccines not fully fda approved. i want to clarify that. the emergency use authorization was given because the public health imperative of trying to get people vaccinated and number of people passing away was high. the reason pfizer and moderna have not been able to submit and now they're starting to submit is because you require about six
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months of safety data which both said they have and that's why pfizer has moved ahead. the approval is imminent. it's likely to happen in the next couple of months. so that's the big thing. i think that approval is actually going to help allay a lot of fears that people have and dispel the disinformation that exists out there. >> new york city mayor bill de blasio now says he is not going to require all public school students to be vaccinated. new york city, of course, the largest school system in this country. what do you make of that decision? >> this is a hard one, craig. states in the past have had the authority to mandate vaccines for school returns and those are generally fully approved vaccines, the fda approval, i think, again, may play a role. it will be interesting to see. if fda full approval comes
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through, there should be no legal counterpoint to making this a mandated vaccine. what i hope they do is reconsider when that approval comes in because what we don't want is to the fall season with everybody coming back indoors and seasonality of this virus to set up the perfect storm to have small clusters of cases or make it as easy as possible for kids to get this vaccine in school will make it a safer way for us to return to normalcy in the fall. >> the governor of my home state, south carolina, just signed an executive order to allow parents to opt their kids out of wearing a mask in school. since only older kids are just now being allowed to get the vaccine, is that a move that makes sense to you? >> no. i think the politics around masking to me has just been symbolic more than anything else. i think for the reasons you talked about is that until we're
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vaccinated or even when we're vaccinated majority of those around us are not vaccinated indoors raise a lot of concern for me in terms of transmission and this types of mandates and these types of political display are more political than looking at the safety of the students or the communities. it is what it is. i think that's what's led to some of the damage we've seen to bring our country together to respond during this pandemic. >> all right. doctor, we'll have to leave it there. thanks so much. thank you, thank you. we just mentioned there be sure to watch msnbc town hall tonight for your questions about the vaccines. dr. anthony fauc and others taking questions from the audience. lawrence o'donnell will sit down with president biden happening tonight at 10:00 eastern only on msnbc. speaking of the president, we continue to keep a close eye
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on truck drivers to work longer hours hauling fuel. we go to south carolina near the north carolina state line. officials urge people not to panic buy because that's making the situation worse but it sounds like you hear from peopl basically easier said than done. >> reporter: yeah, craig, exactly. and i'm in your home state of south carolina but we are just really steps away from the state line. and right here where i am we have seen a steady line of cars all day. we saw a pretty good prework rush. we saw a line down the block yesterday afternoon and people are coming out and they're buying gas. a lot of officials are saying this is panic buying. of course some people when you have to fill up you have to wait in line. they're hearing on the news, state of emergency, exactly what you just said, governors in four states -- virginia, florida, georgia, and north carolina all issuing states of emergencies. the department of transportation, as you mentioned, lifting regulations for drivers. and this is all to get the gas
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to where it needs to be here. but, of course, we are seeing a lot of gas stations in the area running out of fuel. some people are waiting it line an hour, 1:15. yesterday they waited that long only to reach the front of the line and find out that they were out of gas. we talked to a few people about the situation here. this is what they said. >> i've been waiting here for 45 minutes just to get gas. >> this is my kid's car. it's about half filled. i'm going to fill it up all the way just in case. you never know. >> i heard about it but i wanted to make sure i got some so i wasn't stuck. >> i heard there was going to be a run on gas and figured i'd better get it now. >> reporter: so gas buddy says about 71% of the stations in charlotte, the area where i am, are out of gas. this gas station here thinks that they might be out by early afternoon if the pace keeps up. craig, this is impacting airlines. american airlines confirming two of the long haul flights out of charlotte's airport, one to
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honolulu and one to london will not be nonstop anymore. they will have to make an extra stop to fuel up. craig? >> lindsey reiser, north carolina, thank you. be sure to catch lindsey weekday mornings starting at 6:00 a.m. right here on msnbc. thank you so much, lindsey. this morning the family of andrew brown jr. describing the shooting that led to his death as an ambush and a massacre. brown was shot and killed by sheriff's deputies who were executing a warrant in north carolina last month. on tuesday brown's family and lawyers watched more than 18 minutes of body cam and dash cam footage. nbc's catie beck remains on duty in elizabeth city, north carolina, for us. so, katie, how is the family reacting to this new video? and do we know when they're going to be able to see all of the footage? >> reporter: well, that's the question everybody here on the ground is asking, craig, when are we going to see all of this
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footage, and that being the public and the brown family. the brown family, as you said, saw about 20 minutes of that video yesterday. we're told there's two hours in total. the judge determined the 18 minutes they were able to watch was all of the time that andrew brown was actually on camera. so they determined that was the relevant part for the family to view, which they did yesterday. the family expressed outrage and some forms of vindication saying that the 20 seconds they saw, they felt, was an unjustified police shooting, and had been confirmed after seeing nearly 20 minutes that is the case. they say mr. brown had his hands visible on the steering wheel, was no threat to officers. and actually turned his car away from officers during the interaction. that directly contradicts what the d.a. said in court which is that mr. brown actually made contact with officers twice as he reversed and then pulled forward. tough to tell where the truth lies in all of this because we actually haven't seen the video
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yet either. but here is what the brown family attorney had to say. >> the commands were very unclear. some were saying, lift your hands. others were saying, get out of the car. he's holding the phone up with one hand and his right hand, if i'm not mistaken, was on the steering wheel, but his hands were visible. and a shot went through the windshield. when the shot went through the windshield mr. brown began to back up and put distance between he and all of the officers several feet -- i mean, if not yards away from where they were. they continued and persisted on firing their weapons. >> reporter: now brown's attorneys are asking for the district attorney in this case to recuse himself saying that he has relationships with all seven officers that were involved in this case and specifically the three who fired gunshots and would not be able to try this case impartially. we have not yet heard back from
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the district attorney if he has any plans to recuse himself or even what his response is to the request for recusal. as for the public viewing of the videotape, the judge in the case said he would consider making it publicly available somewhere between 30 and 45 days into the investigation. so we still have some time before that's on the table again. craig? >> all right, catie beck for us there following that story in elizabeth city, north carolina. catie, thank you. a live look here in gaza city. we are seeing the smoldering aftermath of a building that just came down. the latest escalation in violence that continues. so far more than 50 people have been killed this week including 14 children. just a few moments ago secretary of state tony blinken talking about the violence during this
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