could propel inflation greater, make people's money worth less, the affordability is more difficult. those are the things i want to discuss and correct. last question? >> are you concerned about you future in leadership given you've protected cheney so long? >> not at all. >> you're not concerned at all? >> no, i'm looking forward to being the next speaker in congress. thank you very much. >> welcome to wednesday. you've just been watching kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell at a pool spray there outside of the white house. outside the west wing there. it's obviously been a very busy wednesday. it been an extraordinary busy wednesday for kevin mccarthy in particular. i think probably the most news worthy non-infrastructure part of the conversation and the remarks is we heard mccarthy claim his caucus in ousting liz

cheney is not questioning the legitimacy of the election. we actually heard him say no, in fact, we just met with the president. so be curious to think what the former president thinks of kevin mccarthy's choice of words there. we will play that clip and get the exact quote for you as soon as we have it recut. we are expecting also to hear from speaker to pelosi and chuck schumer to hear they are version of the meeting and what came out of it. this comes after house republicans met this morning quite quickly and cheney. they did it by voice. they did it quick like a coffee break. they ousted her due to her criticisms of the embrace of trump's lies. biden's first in person meeting with mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy come as republicans seem to surrenderer to trump and his lie biden's election was

illegitimate even as kevin mccarthy said -- he did meet with the legitimate president. republicans are framing the ousting of cheney today as an internal squabble in leadership. was it about messaging, it not about something bigger? we think it is about something much bigger. it is alarming, it is an alarming giant flashing red warning siren that a major political party in this country is willing to embrace or ignore a problem that is a threat to this country's democracy and that they will punish or cancel to borrow a term they like to use someone like liz cheney because she's willing to acknowledge that this is a problem in public. the lie that the election was stolen from trump didn't just fuel cheney's oust from leadership but fueled a riot that put every member of congress, republicans included in very real danger. in fact, there are more hearings right now taking place on capitol hill seeking to understand the full extent of the dangers of that january 6th riot. we have a former defense secretary clapping fear of the

media why he didn't act sooner but in these hearings, republicans tried to absolve trump and paint trump supports as the true victims of this incident. liz cheney warned about the direction of her party when he spoke to reporters following the vote to remove her from leadership. >> we must go forward based on truth. we cannot both embrace the big lie and embrace the constitution, and going forward, the nation needs it. the nation needs a strong republican party. the nation needs a party that is based upon fundamental principles of conservatism and i am committed and dedicated to ensuring that that's how this party goes forward and i plan to lead the fight to do that. >> congress woman, how concerned are you that former president trump might end up back in the oval office and what are you prepared to do to prevent it? >> i will do everything i can to ensure that the former president

never again gets anywhere near the oval office. we have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. we have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the constitution, and i think it's very important that we make sure whomever we elect is somebody who will be faithful to the constitution. >> and after those remarks, congresswoman cheney sat down with samantha with more. >> are you leader of opposition exile right now in the opposition party? >> i intend to be the leader, one of the leaders in a fight to help to restore our party and a fight to bring our party back to substance and principles and in a fight to make clear that we won't participate in a really dangerous effort that's underway. >> a lot of people frame this as a battle for the soul of the republican party. >> i think this is the opening

of that battle and it's a battle we have to win because it's not just about the republican party, it's about the country. >> the trump political team is actively looking to coalesce around a primary challenger to you. what is your message to them? >> bring it on. >> you can see more of savannah's interview with congresswoman liz cheney tomorrow morning on "today". so where do things stand. kasie hunt and also with us former republican member of congress carlos, msnbc political analyst and michael steele former advisor to jeb bush and boehner. i want to play kevin mccarthy's vote from the white house stakeout cameras because it may come as a surprise to somebody down at mar-a-lago. take a listen. >> i don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election. i think that is all over with.

we're sitting here with the president today. >> so kasie hunt, here we go again. every time kevin mccarthy has tried to straddle the fence of the wack a doodle wing of the party trying to claim something crazy happened and the rational world of reality, he usually gets shot down. how is a comment like that going to play in the current makeup of the republican party? >> it's a good question, chuck, because what you saw from kevin mccarthy today was all about him wanting to be speaker of the house in 2022 and there are going to be two prerequisites for that -- >> he said it. >> i know, he said it at the end. they have to win the seats they need but he's also going to need former president trump to be on his side because no matter what happens, when we've seen the right wing of this party stay

loyal to donald trump through thick and thin for years now, you can't tell me that if trump decides that he doesn't think that kevin mccarthy should be the right speaker of the house in a republican majority, if he says that, i don't see how kevin mccarthy then has the votes to become speaker of the house and he also created some problems for himself today with people who originally, when mccarthy first came to the house were naturally allied with him. that would include congressman adam kinzinger that tweeted about the potential speaker vote today and said i'm not going to vote for kevin mccarthy for speaker, at least kevin mccarthy shouldn't assume i'll do that if we win. that's pretty remarkable dynamic. mccarthy has obviously watched john boehner go down in the face of tea party acre -- activism and hard liners and he thought he had successfully co-opted the right wing of his party. get them on board. that as always been his main worry. he didn't have to worry so much

more about these moderates you have to win in tough districts. >> right. >> and so that calculous is now scrambled because of the way donald trump is welding power in this party. it's strictly on the basis of fear, right? it's not as though donald trump has more levers than that, all he has is threats to deploy himself against people, chuck? >> it was so anti clamatic today. speed. it was almost if they wanted to hurry up and get this behind them as if they're embarrassed for what they're doing. for whatever reason nobody seems to be wanting to celebrate this vote, which i think tells you they know deep down what they're doing here is probably not a good thing. >> they didn't want to go on the record, chuck, and that

surprised some members of the house of republican conference. kevin got up. he said a few words and then there was the vote and it happened within seconds. it also shows that some of the republicans who privately secretly support liz cheney probably voted for her a few months ago to keep her in leadership do not feel that way anymore and they are more content going in the other direction in large part because they are caught at home having to answer questions between the truth of what happened in the presidential election, which is donald trump lost and many republican voters, passionate supporters of the former president that believe his lies about a stolen 2020 election. that's where the tide really turned within the house republican conference. the median lawmaker was willing to keep cheney in office but it made life complicated for them. she keeps going after the president and debunking his lies and refusing to look the other way on those and that's why she had to go. it a very moe mennous

development to see them ousting a leader for accepting the legitimacy of an election of a party lost. that won't be easily forgotten in the tide of history. >> carlos, i have to read you this quote from biron donalds. this is what he put to reporters. let me pause it to you this way, if you had a member of the democratic leadership that doesn't believe in climate change anymore, would they stay in leadership? i don't think so. i have to tell you, of all things to pick, right, climate change which of course climate change denial is something that is arguably an issue on the right and he uses that, i mean, denial is about trump's loss, does to me, that is a pretty good comparison to those that don't think climate change exists but of all metaphors to use basically because there is group think, you can't have liz cheney around? >> chuck, the problem with that statement or criticism is that

obviously, policy doesn't matter in the republican party right now, at least not in the house republican conference. this is not about policy. this is about loyalty to one person and to the lies that he is telling. if this were about policy and conservative litmus tests, liz cheney would be in great shape. a lot of groups out there like heritage and other conservative groups are not happy that she might be replaced with someone who has a more moderate record so the republican party in the house, at least is sending a couple dangerous messages today. number one, that any republican or republican leaning independent who isn't loyal to donald trump and doesn't believe everything he says is not welcome in the party, not a good message ahead of 2022 when you want to grow and help you win back majorities in the house and senate and then the other

message is that policy really doesn't matter. it doesn't matter what you think about taxes or abortion or energy. what matters is if you tolerate donald trump and his lies or not. >> you know, michael steele i got to read you this one. glenn said he voted house cheney -- he said i felt she was in part responsible for the high spending in the first trump budget. are we supposed to accept that rational with a straight face? >> that's not an argument i would have made. i think house republicans this is not just kevin mccarthy want to win the majority next year. they are 100% focused on that and hope this effort today turns the page, clears the decks, allows them to focus on the stuff you heard leader mccarthy talking about, inflation, the crisis at the border, infrastructure and the things they haven't been able to talk about because they keep relitigating january 6th and president trump's role. >> well, michael steele, as

someone with boehner trying to wrangle the trump candidacy with jeb bush trying to dual with the trump candidacy. he asks for more. why do house republicans think that donald trump is going to go silent and he's satisfied and he's been apieced and won't come asking for me. >> it is less about the president and former supporters. if millions of voters wake up tomorrow morning and thump themselves on the head and say what was i thinking, trump was wrong all along this would be great. that universe doesn't exist. that's not the universe we exist in. a durable majority, a solid majority for house republicans is going to require both strong supporters of president trump and people who are repelled by his actions in office. you have to put that collision together, that's what kevin

mccarthy is trying to do right now. >> kasie hunt, you talked about how in many ways this is kevin mccarthy, we'll find out, is he learning all the lessons for why he didn't become speaker the first time? is he learning the wrong lessons? we're going to have a definitive answer on that in '22. let me ask you this, donald trump decided to make it a crusade to get rid of cheney. i go back to a version i asked michael steele. whenever trump is appeased and the republican party has done one of these, you know, ritual sacrifices, you know, okay, you want us to trash the bushes, we'll do that. you need us to trash the mccains and romneys, we'll do that. trump always asks for more. is mcconnell safe? >> well, chuck, i think mcconnell is very good and very practiced at keeping his head down. i think he has a different set

of ambitions and different profile than liz cheney has. you're right to point out that donald trump criticized him heavily, but in the meantime since he has not been out front on attacking the former president, those numbers have ticked up slowly. he also, you know, he just won another reelection term in six years is a real lifetime in politics. it's possibly even mcconnell's last term here. so i think the dynamics are completely different and i know that we focused a lot on the fist bump between president biden and liz cheney at the non-state of the union joint address to congress but i actually thought one thing that i saw that was really interesting that i don't think was caught on all the main feeds is mitch mcconnell walking down that aisle, liz cheney standing on the side. he pointed at her and reached out and shook her hand. it was very clear the two of them were sharing a moment of

connection at a time when cheney and mccarthy who were seated in the same row and spent a lot of time on the house floor together while i sat in the gallery to watch didn't speak to each other at all. i think we know where mcconnell stands privately. he made it pretty clear in his speech after the impeachment trial. i think donald trump may continue to go after him. i'm not sure necessarily that mitch mcconnell's team cares very much. we'll see if it starts to affect their finances. that's one place where perhaps you may see some cracks. >> right. you know, given what the house republicans did, we know that a lot of congressional democrats don't have a lot of interest in working with many of these republicans right now but joe biden does. he hosted kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell today. some of it may be symbolic. there is some interest in working together. i am curious is there going to

be tension between the biden white house how much to work with this version of the gop? >>. >> yes, there is chuck. not like they would be chomping at the bit to cut a deal with the biden white house if liz cheney was still in leadership. she's got a more consecutive record than elyce stefanik. there is tension within the democratic party and between them and the white house with progressives on one hand saying cut the rope and let's move to reconciliation because republicans aren't going to be serious about pursuing any infrastructure package of the size they believe is necessary but the white house is doing this. it's holding the bipartisan meetings and pursuing this approach because there are moderate democrats who insist on trying and some progressive activists want to let president biden get caught trying to work with republicans like he did on

covid but need to give more rope this time the white house believes to the idea of bipartisanship because infrastructure is not the same emergency as the covid-19 pandemic. people aren't dying every day. so they want to do this but they also have a deadline in mind, not a specific deadline but they don't want to let this run out, you know, for months and months like they did with the aca in 2009. those lessons are very fresh in the minds of democrats, chuck? >> and carlos, i want to pivot to there was a letter out today from a lot of long-time republicans, most of whom are not in office anymore talking about starting a third party or basically trying to compete for the soul of sort of the conservative movement if you will. where do you think that stands and is liz cheney the right leader of this movement? >> well, chuck, i think it would be very difficult to establish a third party in this country. i mean, people have tried it before.

it an uphill battle for sure. i think that it probably makes more sense to try to have this fight within the republican party and to sight the party from lies and dishonesty from everything i've seen the last few weeks. i don't know if liz cheney is the perfect figure head for this party. you would need a new fresh person who doesn't have all the baggage from the past of the party and that includes the iraq war and other issues that turn off younger generations of voters. i think if people really did want to split from the republican party and have a chance at succeeding, it would need to be a more libertarian party than appealed to younger voters and that could also win over some of those college educated type, suburban types turned off by republicans but without a doubt, chuck, today house republican leadership certainly fed that kind of movement by sending the message

that if you're not willing to go along with trump, there is no place for you here, that's the message that's going to get through to most americans and that's not a good message as you're trying to recover from what was a difficult election cycle. >> michael steele, speak to the issue that i think a lot of republicans i talked to have, which is they want to move past trump. want to have normized back and forth but don't want to get there by confronting the trump stuff. i don't know if that's possible but speak to that tension. i think you deal with a lot of republicans who i think are in this sort of mushed middle when it comes to trump. they're appeasing now but wish they couldn't. >> there is a strong desire for a return to normalcy among all

america caps including republicans. we found over and over again there will be no defining moment, no great one great clash where trump-ism is defeated and the old republican party springs back to life. it a steady effort to build on the base trump has so solidly cemented and add other voters until we get a collision that can win national elections, win the majority in the house and senate and that's -- we're not going back. we're building a new party based on what we've seen over the past five years and also, the knowledge that the collision that trump put together is insufficient to win elections going forward. >> yeah. but you're comfortable starting the foundation of the party on something that isn't true. i mean, that's -- it is right now the energy of the party is about something that is a lie like is that a way to build a party? >> no one should ever -- >> michael. >> -- argue the fact president

trump lost an election and in part lead to the horrible events of january 6th. at the same time, we need his supporters in order to build an enduring majority so i was -- i loved hearing kevin mccarthy just say that joe biden is a legitimate president of the quite. it needs to be side over and over again and that's the foundation we can build on. >> four of the smartest capitol hill folks i can think of having right now. thank you. up next, more on president biden's first meeting with the big four of congress. it mcconnell and mccarthy, pelosi and schumer in the oval office together. we expect to hear from pelosi and schumer at the stakeout cameras. when we do, we'll get you there. we'll get the latest of the meeting and what he's heard from democratic house majority leader, number two man in the house. that's ahead and later, new fears of an all out war as

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we talk a lot about infrastructure today to see if there is anyway to reach a compromise that gets the people's work done and within the bounds of everyone agreeing. >> how do you expect to do that, sir? >> it will happen. >> welcome back. that's what we heard ahead of the first oval office meeting that wrapped up an hour and a half ago. we heard mcconnell mccarthy speak about the leading and they all seem to agree there is a bipartisan desire to get something done an infrastructure but the two sides differ on what

the package should contain and the definition of inpa -- infa structure is. joining me now is nbc mike. mccarthy goes from one meeting to that meeting and certainly, it's like he's walking with a cloud as i pretend. the only thing we talked about was infrastructure. i want to get into something i talked about before which is i'm sensing in my reporting indicating tension where the white house is on negotiations with republicans and where congressional democrats are. i mean, congressional democratic leadership except they don't have joe mansion's vote yet so they kind of have to pretend to entertain it. but the biden folks seem a little more serious about bipartisanship, is that fair? >> chuck, they absolutely are.

in the is the quandary for house democrats which is there is nothing to pass unless you have joe mansion's vote, kirsten cinema's vote and that's why the president among many meetings this week. the democrats are in the house anticipaing the traditional midterm counter to the president's party and looking at everything a little nervously while the white house assures them that it has a strategy to lift all ties and talk about the awkwardness. there is no better illustration in fact of what complicates president biden's interest in bipartisanship. having covered him as long as i have, he puts himself in the other person's shoes understand their limitations and try to get them to move as far as they can without asking them to go further than they're able to. there is no clear understanding and the president has made several comments in recent weeks to say this publicly of whether the republicans know their

internal limitations. that's why as interested as the white house is in reaching some compromise, it really difficult to do that when republicans are still taking their queues from former president trump but really there is no leadership clearly in that party but that being said, it was interesting as biden talked and reiterating his red line, the 2017 tax law but also talked able something i've heard behind the scenes, as well, which is all the money that was in the covid relief law for state and local governments, it turns out some of these states with california yesterday -- >> and florida -- >> -- may not need it as badly and reprogramming is maybe the way forward for a narrow package. democrats don't want a small narrow package, they want to go

big and want mansion and cinema to go along with it. >> the environment pushes back against the progressive wing of the party. you have inflation concerns and this is very likely more supply chain issues than an over heated economy, though, i think everybody is looking for their spin for their point of view. you democrats nervous about voting for tax increases and too much money being thrown. is the current economic situation actually playing into the advantage of the biden white house having more flexibility and negotiations? >> it difficult to see how this plays out because in part, what the timeline the white house has offered is inflationary numbers is urging us to look at the broader view they said friday with the jobs report talking about monthly averages.

the white house has been clear in terms of the preferred timeline memorial day for progress, quote unquote whatever progress means and legislation passed by july. this is a white house that knows what happens if you extend that timeline further down the road. you ultimately may end up with nothing, so they may have to make a decision very soon. memorial day being two and a half weeks from now already. >> i tell ya, they need to get their arms around the supply chain issue. that's the bigger impact more than anything. mike from the white house. we'll look at the big push for president biden's infrastructure view with democratic leadership. sten knee hoyer will join me next. sten knee hoyer will join me next pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load and enjoy fresher smelling laundry.

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[ door creaks ] oh. [ soft music playing ] what are you all doing in my daydream? it's better than that presentation. a lot better. you know, whether it's a fraction or a decimal, it's still fun, you know? >> welcome back. nancy pelosi and congressman talking about the infrastructure package. it also comes after the number two house republican steve scalise emailed his team urging them to remained focused on stopping speaker pelosi and president biden's socialist agenda agenda. congressman, hoyer, good to see you. let me start with getting at a question i've been asking

congressional reporters. this is what it looks like to many of us observers and reporting seems to bear this out that the congressional democratic leadership has a little less patience for working with republicans than the biten white house. is that a fair critique? >> i think we have frankly long experience of finding it very, very difficult to get to a bipartisan resolution with the republican colleagues when you have steve scalise putting out what notice he did with senator mcconnell saying he's 100% committed to fighting the agenda. you have been cynical. it is in the country's political interest and that's what president biden said today. we ought to look at ourselves not as competition with one another but in competition with

the rest of the world, china in particular but others and i think if we do that, we'd have much more likely bipartisanship to pass legislation that has brought support. president biden has said and i agree with them that what he is proposing has brought bipartisan support in the country but now to the congress and that's unfortunate. so i think we're going to continue to work towards bipartisanship both parties have said they're for infrastructure and we need to make substantial investments in infrastructure. there is a basis for bipartisan support and i'm hopeful we can get there. >> i'm curious there was an incident between madeleine dean

and carter there was a piece of legislation they were both co-sponsors of and she didn't want him to be a co-sponsor due to him not voting to certify the election. i heard from many members, i cannot bring myselves to work with a republican who tried to undermine the constitution and what happened on january 6th. how do you do a bipartisan deal then? i say this because the republican, the house republicans have certainly made a decision and senate republicans made a decision. can it be done if there is fund mental lack -- and i get the feeling if one side can't accept working with another side because they think they're

seditionists. >> it started to spill over to the suspension proces you're talking about madeleine dean's suspension bill i supported and carter supported it. the last congressman was a principle sponsor. madeleine dean said to him you're welcome to be a co-sponsor. they didn't want to be the principle sponsor of her bill and i think they blew that way out of proportion very frankly with sentiment we blow up in the fact one bipartisan process we have that suspension bill that can pass with two-thirds vote because both sides are for them. i've worked very hard to try to maintain that bipartisanship on suspension bills. i hope i can do that. we had some success. last night we didn't have success on that particular bill

but hopefully will overcome that and the answer to your question -- >> let me ask you about -- yeah, go ahead. >> the answer to your question is two minutes ago, you know, if one side wants that bipartisanship and the other doesn't and the other -- my view is the problem we have is i believe that republicans and sometimes the democrats have thought that, as well. if they believe that the success of the other side is to their detriment as opposed to being to the country's credit, then it's a tough time to get to bipartisanship and, you know, mcconnell has said again with the biden administration the same thing he said in the obama administration. he was asked and obama's first term what's your principle objective? principle objective was not to make the country better, get more jobs and make sure people have access to health care and clean up the environment. it was to make sure obama didn't have a second term. if that's your objective,

bipartisanship really is not a part of that plan. >> i'm curious, you've been around this town a long time. mitch mcconnell did something we rarely do after he made that comment. he walked it back and the next day said i'm working to have a more moderate biden presidency. what do you make of the walk back? i understand the comment you made and the political you want to make out of it but unlike what happened ten years ago, he walked this one back. why do you think he did? >> perhaps he did it because it got bad reaction. not among his base. their base is anywhere from 35 to 40%, but they need much more than that to win either in the house or in the senate and i think that may be political reasons he walked it back because it didn't play well with the average american that they needed to get and that we need to get to win elections. and i think it was right.

i'm glad that he walked it back. i hope he not only walked it back rhetorically, i hope he walked it back in his heart and soul and that's what he wants to do. >> final question here between the debate that's going to happen inside the party between the centrists and progressive. is the progressive wing of house democrats prepared to accept the fact that the package is big as kirsten cinema and joe mansion are willing to accept? do progressives get that? >> i think all of us would like to see first of all the filibuster eliminated. we ought to be able to pass things by a majority vote but if you don't have joe mansion or kirsten cinema, you're not going to have a majority and that is correct. i think what you've seen, chuck, is a very unified democratic party over the last quarter and the last congress. and we pass things in 30 major

votes. we lost 29 democrats. in all of those 30, 15 of which were on one bill that was interesting that was the waiver for a secretary austin because he hadn't been out of service active service for five years. we lost 15 democrats on that. otherwise we lost 14 democrats on 29 bills. a half a democrat a bill. so we've been very unified. the progressives, moderates, more conservatives, the problem solvers. we've been very unified and i expect us to continue to be very unified. we want to get results and get investment infrastructure. will it be everything joe biden wants and everything we want? perhaps not but we want to get results for the american people. that's what they want us to do. >> house majority leader steny hoyer, the number two democrat from suburban maryland here. thank you for comingperspective

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regional partners to urge de-escalation and to bring calm. >> welcome back. that was secretary of state antony blinken this morning addressing the escalating conflict between israel and hamas and officially announcing the u.s. is sending its own envoy to the region. this outbreak in violence is the most significant conflict in over seven years. they leveled a building in gaza. the building housed intelligence offices and communications infrastructure. israeli airstrikes overnight took down two other high-rise buildings and have been continuing today. palestinian military have shot more than 200 rockets at israel's defense system. more than 200 are dead in gaza, including more than a dozen children. "sky news" mark stone is in

jerusalem for us. mark, we've got this escalating violence. what is the end game here for the israelis and what role -- what constructive role could an envoy from the united states do here? >> reporter: so much to talk about, and actually, another thing which i'll talk about in a second is the tension on the streets. we just had an incident where real tension between an israeli and a palestinian. it's quite extraordinary, really, and i'll talk about that in a moment, in cities across the country. it's a sideline issue but i think it's potentially an even more dangerous one. in terms of the central issue at the moment, the onslaught of gaza, the rockets from gaza that continue to come into israel and tonight they're still falling on cities like ashkelon in the south of israel, and in

retaliation the israelis are continuing to strike in gaza. you talked about antony blinken he sent here. what potentially can he do? yes, he can talk to the israelis. the biden administration doesn't have as good a relationship as the trump administration had with netanyahu and his team. he's want going to be speak to go hamas because they don't talk. so it's -- and clearly, there is a massive gap between the palestinian authority on the west bank and the hamas in gaza. they don't really talk, either. it's questionable what he can really achieve. the key will be the egyptians and the qataris.

they're the ones who would maybe be able to get a cease fire on this. >> that's what i'm asking, this could be the egyptians ending up brokering, as you said. this latest fighting is actually over land that israelis believe belonged to the jews before it ever belonged to the palestinians in east jerusalem, and these folks have lived there for a couple of generations, but there is obviously that dispute. how much of that is now creating more tension on the streets of israel? it sounds like you're finding more. >> unquestionably, will has always been tension in the west bank where israeli settlers have, on unprecedented levels now over the course of the last year, been moving to the west bank taking more settlements. they believe firmly, an

idealogical belief, the home of greater israel is theirs. on the other side, the other extreme, you do have palestinians who believe, as they say, from the river to the sea to the jordan river to the mediterranean, the whole land is theirs. but in the middle you've got the madras who are willing to go for the two-state solution, which seems far away at the moment. palestinian citizens of israel, as they're known, these are palestinians who were not pushed out, they live in these places like lod and akbar in the north. they are said to be attacking the israeli jews, the israeli jews attacking the palestinians as well. now you have racial conflict

within cities. that is potentially an existential threat of benjamin netanyahu. if he's seeing a breakdown of society within his own country, that is very different than the bloodshed we're seeing in gaza, horrific as that is. >> mark stone with "sky news," our partner in europe. mark, thank you for this report. stay safe as much as you can, and thank you all for being with us this hour. we'll be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." msnbc's coverage continues with jeff bennet right after this break. break. oh, you should pick something stronger. that's really predictable. that's a really tight spot. don't worry. i used to hate parallel parking. [all together] me too. - hey. - you really outdid yourself. yes, we did. the all-new buick envision. an suv built around you... all of you. your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... with rinvoq.

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