it's good to see you. i'm general bennet in for my friend katy tur. we're in the middle of an incredibly busy news day. first we're at university of virginia. it's the site of the vaccinaing town hall with president biden, and my colleague will be here in

the next hour with more on tonight's town hall and the cdc meeting on the pfizer vaccine for children. but first, breaking news just across the river in washington, d.c. where republicans twice cemented themselves as the party of donald trump. liz cheney is no longer the third ranking republican in the house. it took less than 10 minutes for her colleagues to officially oust her from leadership over trump's big lie that the election was stolen from him. cheney sat down exclusively with savannah guthrie after the vote. >> i intend to be the leader, one of the leaders, in a fight to help to restore our party, in a fight to bring our party back to substance and principles, and in a fight to make clear that we won't participate in a really dangerous effort that's underway. >> and then during a capitol hill hearing on the january insurrection, republicans again

show just how far they are from cheney on this issue. republicans defended donald trump, arguing he did not incite the attack. >> many democrats have put forth a narrative that has been circulating around since january 6 and it's never been corrected. for example, the narrative that president trump incited riots o january 6. >> and yet just after the vote to oust cheney, house leader kevin mccarthy joined three other top members of congress for an overly office meeting with the president and vice president, which you see on your screen, just after house members purged one leader who acknowledged that vice president biden won the presidency. but mccarthy says his party was disputing the results of the

2020 election. >> i don't think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election. i think that is all over with. we are sitting here with the president today. >> joining me now is msnbc news correspondent mike emily who is outside the white house, former republican congressman denver riggleman of virginia, and our friend eddie glaude, also an msnbc contributor. kevin mccarthy just said outside the white house that president biden is president, but you have republican of georgia denying the insurrection even happened. >> there was no insurrection, and to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a bold-faced lie.

watching the tv footage of those who entered capitol and walked through statuary showed people in an ordinary fashion taking videos and pictures. if you didn't know it was tv footage from january 6, you would think it was just an ordinary tour visit. >> everything the congressman said there is a complete lie, but explain this fence straddling we're seeing right now in the gop, jake. >> he might be new to congress, but i've been reporting on congress for more than a dozen years, and nothing that happened that day was anything remotely close to what it would look like if tours came to the capitol. that is one of the most ridiculous statements i've ever heard. mccarthy is trying to play both sides of the fence here. he's trying to keep trump at bay and be able to use trump to bring out voters and to not primary his sitting members, and liz cheney, frankly, was a

problem for him and a problem for a lot of house republicans because they brought up a lot of uncomfortable topics that even if republicans agreed with them on the substance, they didn't want to talk about them, like donald trump's behavior, his involvement on january 6, a whole host of issues like that that while republicans might agree with him, again, they don't want to talk about it. i will say, though, jeff, it's stunning. you've been in a lot of meetings with me. this unfolded in about 10 minutes. there was basically no disagreement. and that speaks even more to the volumes of just how unusual of an instance this is. liz cheney is being pushed out of this party for talking too frequently about what president donald trump have said and done, and it makes people uncomfortable. 15 minutes they were able to get through this vote. they voice voted it and she came out and talked to the cameras and now she's a national figure. just in all the years i've been

covering congress, one of the most bizarre and interesting days. >> i was thinking about the ouster of former john boehner. he stepped down under pressure from hard line republicans. do you see what happened today as an evolution of what started then, or is this really different? >> it's really different, i think. i hadn't thought about it in those terms, but cheney went through a vote and was confirmed again just a couple months ago as the house republican conference chair. boehner was pushed out because they thought he was too weak in negotiating with barack obama, the president at the time. liz cheney is talking incessantly and frequently about donald trump, a president of their own party, and frankly, what republicans say is she's not representative of the republican conference at whole.

frankly, she's not. the republican conference as a whole is undyingly faithful to donald trump. some are saying there was not an insurrection at all. this is about not acknowledging, or acknowledging, in cheney's case, a political rally that no one else wants to acknowledge. >> congresswoman cheney, when she was speaking to reporters, said the gop is a place that it has to be brought back from. is that even possible if the base is pointing in trump's direction? >> i've heard punin say this is the end of the gop. if you look in virginia and our

gubernatorial convention, the one person who recognized biden as president only got 80% of the vote. those who say he was legitimately elected is the issue. here in virginia, it polled 35 to 40 points above the next issue. what kevin mccarthy did was stay in that swim lane messaging, because right now when you heard representative clyde, that's science-based ignorance. i never heard anything like that since i did the report on the data about the insurrection. you know, i don't know -- you know, honestly, i don't want to say people are sniffing glue right now, but when you're talking about these type of things na way where you see the video and the issues with the data that proves that a minimum of seven white nationalist groups were involved in that insurrection, you look at somebody like that and you start to get angry. that's ridiculous, right? that's always suggesting a false flag operation. it is difficult, but i think

you'll see a common sense independence of senators starting to step up. i think you have to. i think there needs to be a response to the big lie. i don't think you can be soft. i don't think you can be delicate about this. i think there needs to be some type of intellectual confrontation. i'm willing to do that, liz cheney is willing to do that, adam kinzinger. what happened to liz was difficult to watch. she's a friend of mine, i talk to her often, and the fact she won the vote a couple months ago and that she's been consistent and smart about what happened on january 6 leads me to believe that nobody wants to talk about it any more, but really, you just saw the messaging for the 2020 midterms. that is what you saw is election integrity, loyalty to trump and then trying to hit biden on taxes. that's really what's going to happen in 2022. >> let me ask you this about what comes next, because nbc news is reporting that more than 100 influential republicans plan to release a call for reform within the gop alongside a

threat to form a new party if change isn't forthcoming. what do you make of that effort? is there room in this country for an anti-trump conservative party, or does it really even have a base, really, outside of new york city and d.c.? >> well, jeff, i know exactly what it says because i'm one of those 100. it's really interesting. i'm good on that, right, and i know exactly what it says, and it's not a threat, it's a promise. if we can't somehow work from the inside to go to a facts-based policy position away from fantasy and ridiculousness and misinformation and conspiracy theories, i think we'll have a tough time in the future. short term it's really good for the gop. we lost this battle, liz, me, all these individuals. if you remember, i was ousted because i officiated a same-sex wedding and came out against qanon. i've been through this. we lost this battle but the war is long and i think you're going

to see a new front start to emerge. i hope so. i'm going to try. i can't guarantee success. that would be ridiculous to say that. but we have the opportunity right now for people who aren't afraid to step up and say, hey, conservative doesn't equal crazy, and i think that's really the baseline message of this. you can be conservative, be that sort of balance to the left and the right that we need in this country and not be nuts. >> mike memily, let's turn to you, friend. let's talk about that meeting in the oval office with president biden and the top four congressional leaders. what, if anything, was accomplished based on your reporting and what we heard from mccarthy and mcconnell after that meeting? >> any time you have a meeting between the so-called big four and the vice president and the president in the oval office, it's an important meeting. i think it's really a snapshot of the state of play in washington that even people in the white house don't think it's the most important meeting happening this week at the white house. think of the president meeting

one on one with senator joe manchin on monday, kyrsten sinema yesterday and potentially the most consequential one tomorrow with shelley moore capito of west virginia and her colleagues. that's really the economic agenda that the president has put forward, really, where the rubber meets the road on whether there will be a compromise among gop. the president's heartfelt desire to reach across the aisle and find some bipartisan compromise and running into road blocks are what's happening in the gop. the president has talked so often in the years i've covered him about how he goes into these negotiations, he tries to put himself in the shoes of his republican colleague, and understand, their limitations have not asked him to go much further than that. when you talk about mr. mccarthy

in the ousting of liz cheney says he's having trouble with that party. >> can you trust him and work with him? >> yes. >> so you've heard it, jeff. in the last few weeks we've heard the president speak rather openly about the fact that even he is surprised that republicans have not had that epiphany, that altar call he talked so much about during the campaign. he says he wants to see a strong republican party, but ultimately this is a white house looking at a memorial day deadline for, quote, unquote, progress in these talks that sees a long way and the realistic chance they'll have to go this one alone once again. >> eddie glaude, we'll end with you. what does history teach us about this moment that we're in? to mike's point, senator biden, back when he was vice president

biden, he did deals with republicans because he knew where republicans stood and what they stand for. last week he admitted he really doesn't understand republicans anymore at this point. what does the way forward right now look like? >> i think we have to recognize, jeff, who we're dealing with. the historical analog for me immediately that comes to mind is radical reconstruction and its rollback. when we think about those southern elites in congress who were called the redeemers and how they wanted to roll back the extension of citizenship to those former enslaved people, how they wanted in some ways to undo what the civil war made possible in some ways, and that is the second founding of the united states. so i think what we're dealing with in this moment are the new redeemers. and we have to ask ourselves, are they genuine partners? because the old redeemers actually undermined the promise of radical reconstruction and opened the door to, what, plessy versus ferguson, 1986? it ushered in the age of jim crow in some ways.

what we have to understand is that our partners on the other side of the aisle are actually committed to a version of the united states that is not consummate with democracy. until that happens, we'll have to deal with this over and over and over again. >> a quick question about that, because you know better than anybody, in politics, time and capital are finite resources. here we are talking about infrastructure. we've not really even talked about voting rights and police reform. those are still being negotiated on capitol hill. how should this administration prioritize those issues moving forward, do you think? >> well, it seems to me that we have to understand the scale of the crisis we face as a policy. if the crisis poses an existential threat to the public, we need to act accordingly. the civil war within the republican party actually reveals they're not really ready to respond at scale to the problems we face. we only have a bounded period of

time. we have to act accordingly. so i think the biden administration should understand who sits on the other side of the aisle and what is in front of them, and that is the future of the pollity. >> appreciate your opinion, as always. you can watch savannah guthrie's interview with liz cheney tonight on nbc news, and of course tomorrow on "today." the fireworks at a hearing over the january insurrection with the president's acting secretary of defense. >> the people marched on the capitol, did they not? >> they clearly offered that they should march on the capitol, so it goes without saying that his statement resulted in that. >> okay. later, the climbing death toll in gaza and israel.

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now the next stage begins on how quickly to reach these kids and how to make that happen. joining me now with me here in the flesh in virginia is former white house policy, too. we're here with allison barber. it's great to see you in person. >> yes, it is. it's great to actually see humans. >> give us the latest. the cdc has endorsed this

vaccine for use in adolescents, so what's the next step? >> the next step, most pediatricians and offices are ready to give this vaccine. some may even have appointments as early as tomorrow morning, and some states have already moved forward with allowing 12 to 15-year-olds to get the vaccine. the biggest thing from the advisory committee is they recommended people 12 to 15 come in not just for their covid shot but for any other immunizations. we know children have been behind in getting their immunizations because of the pandemic. this is an important regularly scheduled vaccine, so that's a big deal. great news. and the cdc emphasized that even though 12 to 15-year-olds have not been affected as seriously as older people, they still have been hospitalized and sometimes died, so it's very important. >> doctor, as you mentioned, some states have moved ahead with vaccinating 12 to

15-year-olds. you're in a place where they are doing that. >> reporter: some parents are nervous about vaccinaing their children for covid-19, but for some families this is a no-brainer. they were going to let 12 to 15-year-olds get vaccinated at the department of health website. with the pfizer vaccine, she immediately got on line, tried to sign her 13-year-old son up, and by lunchtime yesterday he was vaccinated. here's some of what they told us. >> the science behind the vaccine really made sense to me, and the risk of covid, even though it might be smaller for a child, it's still riskier to get covid than it is to take this vaccine. my kids have been, you know, in school, they have not been participating in sports or having playdates, so i really hope this can get us back to

that sense of normalcy. >> as soon as i get the full vaccine, i'm having a sleepover at my friend's house. >> reporter: as of today, only 30% of georgians are vaccinated, at least 36% have had at least one dose of the vaccine. they said they wanted to move as quickly as they could with allowing 12 to 15-year-olds to get a pfizer vaccine if their parents wanted them to do it as soon as the fda had authorized it, not just because -- and they did say adolescents maybe don't have as high of a risk, but they can still get sick from covid-19. she pointed out this is a group that can often be asymptomatic and it can spread to people more vulnerable. so this is a state they are trying to get vaccinated as quickly as possible. jeff? >> dr. patel, let me ask you about that. as ellison points out, the rate

of transmission is lower in children than in adults. is it okay to say, let's wait a while, let's let other kids get this vaccine and see how it goes. or is this urgent? >> it is urgent. we know that 12 to 15-year-olds have a similar capacity for having the virus in their nose and their body as adults do. in terms of being able to pass it on, it's definitely a risk. furthermore, i think we're still wrestling with what the longer term symptoms of covid may be, and the more people that are vaccinated in this age group, the more children we see with positive cases. when we know it's preventable and these vaccinations decrease the ability to have it in your body, it's a no-brainer. >> are there children who are at a higher risk? >> like adults, there are children with chronic conditions

who are at a higher risk than other kids. i highly encourage parents to have a discussion with their pediatrician. you can plan that now, and i do feel pretty strongly that when you go in to the pediatrician, also talk and look at other issues. mental health, physical health. we have seen a lot of anxiety and depression in this age group, too. >> i understand you have a column online that people can read? >> yes. >> when are you not working, doctor? you can watch "vaccinating america" at msnbc town hall with lawrence o'donnell and president joe biden right here at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. a fire breaks out in israel and gaza. i high-rise in gaza on fire

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and there is breaking news in the most dramatic escalation we've seen, an all-out war between israelis and palestinians. israelis blew up a high-rise building in gaza. you can see it imploding and engulfed in flames. the biden administration signaled early on it was pulling away from focusing on the middle east is now sending a diplomatic team to israel after what's been 48 hours. dozens of people have been killed, including children, and hundreds more wounded as israel and hamas trade attacks from the air, starting with hamas aiming a barrage at jerusalem. then israel took down a 12-story

building in gaza. israel says it has killed senior hamas commanders. and right now, right about the time we came on the air here, came this. >> the sights and sounds in the night sky over tel aviv lit up hamas rockets, exploding like fireworks in mid-air as they're hit by israel's iron dome defense system. joining me now is foreign correspondent molly hunter, "washington post" bureau chief steve hendricks and the commander at nato and national security analyst, adam james stradevist. lots of claims on both sides, it's kind of hard to keep track. but take us through the latest of what we know, and as far as

those attacks we've talked about since yesterday. >> reporter: hey, jeff, that's right, it's coming fast and furious and it's developing rapidly. even as we come on, we're hearing reports of more rockets heading to tel aviv. the pictures you showed of last night, we have not seen anything like that since 2014, since the last war. according to the israeli military, they say hamas has launched more than a thousand rockets from gaza to israel. in 2014, more than 4,000 were launched in seven weeks. the death toll is up to seven people, including a six-year-old child. according to gaza health ministry officials, they say at 53 people have been killed, including 14 children. as far as that building, that video you showed of that 14-story building being hit by the israeli military, they were

warning missiles, but there were other media offices including tv in the last hour. also prime minister netanyahu, who has spoken with antony blinken, urging both sides to step back. jeff? >> so, steve hendricks, you're in israel and you have written that this is slipping toward war. what's the latest reporting you have there and why does this latest time, based on your reporting, seem different? >> it came very quickly. tensions in jerusalem and conflicts between police and policy protesters really starts -- starting in a neighborhood with some possible evictions. in a couple days we saw the very first rockets being aimed toward jerusalem which is a real departure from hamas as usual behavior in the last seven

years. so from that moment on, it has taken on an intensity that really surprised, i think, israeli security forces at the beginning. they have gathered themselves and responded in kind, and i think at this point there is a real concern that it's spinning out of control, that neither side is going to be able to find a way to stop it even if they want to. we'll see in the next couple of days if any of the diplomatic efforts take hold, but the idea of people telling me at this point they just don't see any slowdown on hamas' part and, therefore, see no way they can pause on theirs. >> emeril stradevis, president biden is focused on iran and now he has this issue in israel. what do you tell president biden

how to bring this back from the edge? >> i think the most important thing is to realize how different this is in the last decade since that 2014 incident, really a war. to put a number on it, there's only 10 million people between israelis and arabs, so as you tick up toward 50 to 100 people, that's a 9/11-level event population adjusted. last night in israel, two-thirds of the population were headed to air war shelters. it's a big deal, point one. point two, there is no quick solution here. we know there are tactical causes which were just laid out very well by our two reporters. the strategic backdrop here is frustration on the part of the palestinians who just feel like they've been moved on the stage. israel and the rest of the euro

world drawing close together, the so-called abraham mccourt negotiated under the trump team, all of that is frustrating to the palestinians, and then their internal hamas politics that are at work here. so point three, final point, to secretary of state blinken, we may not be interested in the peace process, it's an intractable problem, but it will continue to draw us back in here because we are very supportive of the state of israel but we also want to maintain our relationships in the arab world. so it's a naughty problem and the president is right to put diplomats on this immediately and hope both sides can climb down. >> and steve, what does de-escalation look like? >> at least one side would want to have to ask for a pause. they're engaged in such a relentless back and forth at this point that there doesn't

seem to be any point at which to insert just a little break to maybe begin some dialogue. we know egypt has dispatched teams that we think are now in gaza. but so far there's been no sign that any of that has persuaded hamas or jihads in gaza to take a pause. >> thanks to the three of you. next, defiant testimony and heated exchanges as former trump officials defend their response to the capitol riot. and the science that paved the way for both the moderna and pfizer vaccines. andrea mitchell's exclusive first interview. as we continue our live coverage in alexandria,

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today on capitol hill, former trump officials defended their response to the insurrection at the capitol. one said he wouldn't change anything about his reaction to the attack. here's congressman steve lynch. >> did the president's remarks incite people to march on the capitol? >> they clearly offered that they should march on the capitol, so it goes without saying that his statement resulted in that. >> today, this morning, you stated the following about the president's quote. i personally believe his comments encouraged the protesters that day. that was this morning.

so there is a very recent reversal of the testimony. >> absolutely not. that's ridiculous. >> you're ridiculous. >> joining us is correspondent carrie kuby. he admitted a line in the trump riots and he says, quote, i stand by my prior observation that i believe his comments encouraged the protesters that day. and we knew he was going to say that based on your reporting, but instead, miller backed off. so what went down here? >> that's right, and that's what really drew the ire of congressman lynch there. he said chris miller had changed his position and chris miller denied that. but the reality is, further along in the questioning, miller said the reason that he's backing away from that as such a declarative statement that

president trump did, in fact, encourage the rioters, the protesters to go to the capitol and riot, he says that more information is coming in every single day and that there is now evidence that, in fact, there was -- there were conspiracy efforts afoot prior to january 6 by groups who were looking to incite an insurrection, anyway, that groups like the oath keepers and the proud boys were already planning to do that prior to donald trump telling them and calling them to the capitol. the reason that argument is a little tough to swallow, though, jeff, is that these prepared remarks were just prepared. so this would mean that chris miller had gotten some new information literally in the last several hours, just in the last day or so, that changed his mind on that. now, he didn't only say that he believed president trump had some responsibility for inciting the riot on january 6 one time. he said it, in fact, in two separate interviews. once on camera with "vice news"

and once in "vanity fair." it wouldn't have been that big of a surprise, but this would have been the first time he testified to that under oath in front of congress, jeff. >> did we learn anything new today, courtney, about the pentagon's response to the january 6 insurrection under former president trump, why there was that delay in responding? >> so acting secretary miller actually had an interesting response to that as well. it was straight down partisan lines of whether the pentagon reacted quickly enough or not. miller had one interesting comment on that, though. he said that he was very -- in his actions that day, he had two things in the back of his head. one was recently just before january 6, the ten living former secretaries of defense all penned this op-ed that was published in the "washington post" where they warned about the idea of u.s. military troops in the streets.

and that was borne out of a number of social media postings, conspiracy theories out there that president trump was going to try to send troops to the streets so he could hold onto power. he said miller said that was in the back of his head and he was very worried about the optics of sending troops to the capitol, and that was one of the things that factored into any delay to sending them, jeff. >> nbc's courtney kube covering it all as always. thanks for that. coming up, a cyberattack on a major pipeline has gas shortages across several southern states. indiana, virginia and georgia have all claimed a state of emergency because of gas shortages. think shortage of toilet paper. just this time it's gasoline causing long lines at the pump and driving up gas prices. joining me now from fort mill, south carolina is nbc weekend

anchor lindsay reiser. she's on the border. there were lines at every gas station i passed, and one gas station that didn't have a line, they were out of gas. so what's the deal in south carolina where you are? >> reporter: yeah, jeff, you just talked about toilet paper. you would walk into any store and see those empty shelves. your empty shelves, every single one of these pumps has a bag on it because they're now out of gas. their phone was ringing off the hook while we've been here, and they were just saying, millers, yes, we have gas. that's not happening now. they said they have the supply, they just need the trucks to deliver. they hear states of emergency, they fear they won't have enough gas for their commutes. you just mentioned four governors have declared states of emergency, virginia, florida

and georgia. they lifted regulations for truck drivers in 17 states, so that means these truck drivers can now drive longer hours to get the gas where they need to be. this is on top of a major truck driver shortage nationwide. 65% of gas stations are out, 43% in south carolina. people were waiting in very long lines for a long time, sometimes even getting to the front of the line only to be told, hey, guys, sorry, we're out of gas. we talked to some of them and this is what they said. >> any time you have a public official in a state of emergency with a gas ordinance, everybody freaks out and they go buy gas. do half these people really need gasoline? probably not. >> reporter: of course, jeff, this means rising demand, rising prices. we're now seeing the highest gas prices nationwide since 2014,

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groundbreaking pfizer and moderna vaccines would not have been possible without the work of a female scientist, a scientist whose work was dismissed by her colleagues for years until the fight over an office copier led to a partnership, and that was responsible for the discovery that began turn the course of this pandemic. chief washington correspondent andrea mitchell has the exclusive first interview. >> the scientific breakthrough that helped create today's covid vaccines was unlocked here at the university of pennsylvania by two unassuming scientists. for years their work went unnoticed and dismissed. talk to me about how skeptical people were about the value of rna. >> you know, i don't know, did we listen to them? not really, you know. >> everybody was skeptical. we didn't care. >> born in hungary, one of two daughters of a butcher, she came

to the u.s. to study science. but her funding dried up. >> i tried to get grants but couldn't get the grants, and so i was not promoted. >> faced with losing her faculty job. >> we would fielt over the photo copier. >> what did you see in dr. kariko? >> when katie and i would sit and talk, we would think about more and more things we could do, and it kept us going in the face of all the setbacks. >> he worked on vaccines, she worked on messenger rna. together they found a way to create a vaccine that got past the body's defenses but still prompted the immune system to make antibodies to fight disease. >> we were shoulder to shoulder. drew was working on the cell.

i was working on the rna. it was very joyful shoulder-to-shoulder collaboration. >> how did the break through eventually become acknowledged and become the vaccines that have saved millions and millions of people? potentially billions of people? >> we're laughing, because we're remembering how bad it was. in 2005, we published our paper that's now considered, you know, the game changer that identified, modified rna. >> but the acclaim didn't come. >> they really didn't care about it, and it wasn't until around 2008, 2009 when people started to see the potential. >> so from 1998 to 2008, 2009, all those years, you were in the wilderness. >> yeah. took another ten years. >> now their discovery is leading to even more vaccines for aids, ebola, zika. >> it's truly a plug and play.

you can take out one coding sequence and put in anything you want. so, it takes you a couple of weeks to make a new vaccine. >> and now they're talking about a nobel prize. how does that make you feel? >> i don't think about it. i look at it as i focus always on the work, and that's what excites me. >> yeah. we both share that. my family always gets mad at me, because they want to talk about the great success that we've had, but i've already moved on to the next thing. >> today a crowd of students follow them, asking for pictures. kariko reminds them glory is not the true reward. >> you have to enjoy, so that it is very important that you have to be happy when you are doing these things. >> and the joy of discovery? >> yes. >> and we are certainly all grateful to the both of them. one more reminder not to miss

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