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be hard for her to avoid what's happening across the aisle. a huge opening at the top of the house republican leadership now that congresswoman liz cheney is out. we'll go inside the battle over the gop's future in the house as cheney says this to my colleague savannah guthrie. >> do you think leader mccarthy has placed his own ambitions to be speaker of the house above principle? >> i think that he is not leading with prince well-right now. i think that it is -- it's sad and i think it's dangerous. >> right now a busy day at the white house for president biden. first off addressing the gas crunch affecting states from mississippi to north carolina this hour we expect the president to talk about the cyber attack on the colonial pipeline that left a lot of folks scrambling for gas. the president will meet with a group of republican senators to find common ground on an
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infrastructure deal. also kids age 12 to 15 are cleared by the cdc to get the pfizer vaccine. i will talk to the doctor who ran the trials for kids in that age group and we have a lot of questions. >> we have a special guest putting a spotlight on policing. ben cohen, is going to join me to talk about his push to end qualified immunity. we start with some fast-moving stories in washington. garrett haake is on capitol hill. kelly o'donnell at the white house. garrett, start with you, congresswoman cheney talked to savannah guthrie, fellow congresswoman elise stefanik seems to be the favorite for cheney's opening job. where do things stand? >> stefaniak has all the right endorsements, backed by kevin mccarthy and former president trump about whoms this entire episode really centers.
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now there will be a candidate forum tonight for her to share her views, essentially make her pitch for the job to the fellow house republicans and the vote is expected as early as tomorrow morning. as of right now, stefaniak is running unopposed. easier to get the job when not running against anyone. there's still a possibility that someone perhaps a member of the house freedom caucuses could jump in to challenge her, but stefaniak looks like the odd's on favorite. for cheney he's out of the leadership position but not the spotlight. she has made a point to be out in the media. >> are you the leader of opposition in exile right now in the republican party? >> i intend to be the leader, one of the leaders in a fight to help to restore our party and a fight to bring our party back substance and principle. >> the trump political team is
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looking to coalesce around the primary challenger to you. what is your message to them? >> bring it on. >> craig, i think that's what makes congresswoman cheney's position different from what we have seen in the past from republican critics of then president president trump. bob corker or jeff flake, against running for re-election after they broke with then president trump. cheney thinks she's going to fight this out and she will be a test case to see if that's possible. >> remains to be seen. kelly o., president biden a gas shortage, roughly 45 minutes from now. what do we know about the president's expectations for this meeting and ultimately for getting an infrastructure deal passed with the republican help? >> he reached out to shelly moore capito for her to assemble
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the group of republican senators. it's not the leadership like we saw yesterday. these are senators who have specific committee experience and knowledge to deal with some of the issues on the hard infrastructure that republicans are looking to find their way to a deal. some of the other pieces of the president's larger plan that deal with child and elder care and a lot of things that are more tied to social programs, that part of it they are not so open to. the president is signalling that he might be willing to carve up his big agenda into some pieces to get some things accomplished. he gives us a sense of this in the excerpt from lauren. >> i'm not going to give up a whole range of things that go to the question of productivity, of increasing jobs, increasing employment, increasing revenues. i'm not going to give up on that. we're going to fight those out.
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what can we agree on and let's see if we can get an agreement to start this and then fight over what's left. see if i can get it done without republicans if need be. >> reporter: and the fight over what's left would be the items that are more on the progress severe side of his agenda and would there be a political will to get that through on a democrats only kind of vote if that can be done in terms of the structure of how the senate works. so this is movement from the president who has said all along he's willing to negotiate and might be some of the fruits of that negotiation happening today based on a lot of conversations that have happened behind the scenes, not only with the president but people like secretary of transportation pete buttigieg and the commerce secretary who were a part of the meeting today. they have been talking to republicans to try to know where is a deal to be had. now that the meetings are a big theme this week, maybe there's a little bit of a light as to how they might get there long way to
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go but the president talking about breaking up his plan as a possible course, gives us some bit of a look at how this might take shape today. craig? >> all right. kelly o'donnell at the white house and garrett, while we're having this conversation, the speaker of the house nancy pelosi has started her weekly briefing. so far we've heard the speaker talk about the infrastructure plan and talk about the need to rebuild the infrastructure in this country and talk a little bit about that aforementioned meeting yesterday in the oval office with house leadership and she began by explaining why she is not wearing a mask as she usually is for the briefings, saying she's keeping distance from the reporters there. we're going to continue to watch and listen to speaker pelosi and if there is news to be shared we'll bring it to you. garrett, meanwhile, west virginia senator capito, leading the delegation, senator mcconnell relying on her for how they should proceed with
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infrastructure. i know you spent some time with her recently. how important is the senator from west virginia to these talks and what's the gop line on infrastructure right now? >> well, she's pivotal and she told me last week she's been watching closely what the president has had to say about this issue. i'm sure she was watching that interview closely because what you heard from the president has been something key to republicans here, and that is the scope of what could be in a bipartisan deal. republicans don't want to include the so-called soft infrastructure provision, things that are in the american family plan and child care provisions in the original jobs plan. capito told me if they could focus on the things they agree upon she thinks there is a deal and it could be in the $600 billion to $800 billion range. the big question remains as it has been from the beginning, how will they pay for this? capito is in lockstep with mitch mcconnell on not reopening the 2017 tax law, not raising taxes on corporations.
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the president talked about alternative options to pay for this in that interview last night, too, and i think if the discussion today with senator capito and the other republican senators and president gets as far as how would we pay for the things we agree on, both sides would look at that as a very productive day today. >> garrett haake on the hill, kelly o'donnell tight ends white house, a big thanks to both of you. meanwhile we're keeping an eye on the senate this hour because a dhs secretary alan dro mayorkas testifying before the governmental affairs committee. the focus is on the surge of unaccompanied minors at the border. in his opening statement secretary mayorkas laid the blame squarely at the trump administration. >> we are dedicated to an orderly, safe and humane immigration system and, therefore, we stopped the prior administration's policy of expelling the unaccompanied
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children. we did not turn them away. >> again, just a few moments ago there on the hill. secretary mayorkas. julia ainsley covers the border for us. walk us through some of the key moments you've heard so far. >> that's right. so walking into this hearing secretary mayorkas did have some good news. that's that the number of unaccompanied children crossing the border in april fell 12% compared to march. march was the highest number ever recorded in terms of unaccompanied children crossing the border. right now what he's having to prove is that the biden administration can have a system of immigration that is both safe and humane but also orderly. he's placing a lot of blame on the prior administration not having enough facilities to take in these children, doing away with programs like the central american minors program that allowed children to apply for asylum in their home countries without having to make this
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journey. republicans are pushing back saying he can't blame everything on the trump administration. here's what republican senator rob portman had to say. >> don't blame the previous administration for not having facilities that they didn't need because they didn't have the surge. again, let's look at the numbers. so here we are. what do we do is the question? >> and craig, if i could just backtrack the senator there for a minute, we did report at nbc during the transition, biden transition officials saw the numbers could go up and asked the trump administration to start expanding the number of beds they could put in these shelters to take in children and they say that they were stalled and simply the trump administration sat on their hands. because they did start to see those numbers go up last fall after a court ruling that said that the trump administration could not continue to expel children from the united states. so we're seeing a lot of back
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and forth right now. what i will be listening to as this hearing goes forward is answers that the secretary can provide on what might come next. when will they lift this authority to allow single adults and families into the united states and how quickly do they think they might be able to get the numbers of children in u.s. custody down which is now over 20,000. ? >> julia ainsley keeping an eye and a close ear on the hearing on the hill for us, keep us posted. thank you. we're keeping an eye on the white house again. president biden expected to speak this hour about the colonial pipeline cyber attack. why it's made i so hard pricey to fill up on gas and when the white house says things will get better. also, kids as young as 12 can now get the pfizer vaccine. i will talk to the pfizer executive who ran the trials about how kids have reacted so far and when we could see toddlers get the shot as well.
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last hour, attorneys for the other three former officers charged in george floyd's death appeared before a judge. those officers are charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and manslaughter. nbc's gabe gutierrez closely followed the hearing and joins me now. gabe, this hearing coming nearly a month after derek chauvin was found guilty of murdering george floyd. what can we expect next? >> actually, that hearing as far as we know is still under way. the officers were not required to be at this hearing. no cameras allowed inside either, so we're relying on pool reports from inside the courtroom. so far we have not seen any. as far as we can tell that hearing is under way. but the significance of it, craig, is that the attorneys for
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the three other officers involved in this case, their trial still scheduled for august. we could find out more details about the scheduling of that and whether that could potentially be postponed. we don't know for sure at this point. but the attorney for officer thao is alleging that actually one of the prosecution's witnesses may have been coerced, craig. dr. andrew who was one of the key witnesses during derek chauvin's murder trial and -- there was some speculation that, you know, he could say -- he could, you know, be part of the defense's case ended up not being the case -- not being the case so much, but what the attorney for officer thao is alleging is that he only added the words neck compression, that george floyd died due to a neck compression, not initially, didn't have it in his initial report and only added those reports once contacted by the former medical examiner of
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washington, d.c., who according to officer thao's attorney said that he was going to put an opinion piece in "the washington post" contradicting the medical examiner's initial findings. essentially officer thao's attorneys are arguing that dr. baker was coerced. in addition to that, the attorney for officer thao is also alleging that the prose caution had some role in the leak to the new york times and the associated press. both outlets reported chauvin was ready to take a plea deal that then attorney general bill barr rejected. the prosecution coming back and strongly denying that, saying that it's completely false and that allegation is a waste of the court's time. again, this all comes as those three officers are charged with aiding and abetting and their trial is scheduled for august. we're awaiting details on what these motion hearings, where they will go, and again, no cameras allowed in the courtroom, but should be
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interesting to see how this all plays out and whether that trial continues to be scheduled for august. of course chauvin and those officers, those other officers, now face federal civil rights charges. craig? >> gabe gutierrez, keep us posted. thank you. this morning we're also keeping our eyes on the escalating violence in the middle east. overnight, more violent clashes between israelis and palestinians. at least 90 people have been killed since monday, including more than a dozen children so far. president biden getting involved now talking to israel's. benjamin netanyahu on wednesday. the white house sending an envoy to the region. molly hunter is following the chaos in the middle east right now. part of the violence overnight included arab and jewish mobs attacking each other inside israel. take us through what's happening there right now. >> hey, craig. that's right. we haven't seen anything like
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this inside the green line inside israel since the second entity fattah. the video that really is making an impact from last night that went viral that we're talking about this morning, it shows israeli nationalist mobs dragging an arab driver out of a car and beating him unconscious. the israeli media is calling this a lynching. there were a number of different attacks last night and also an arab mob who beat up a jewish man in critical condition. these are focussed in six different cities which are so-called mixed cities. palestinians of israel and jewish israelis. one of the towns prime minister netanyahu visited is about ten minutes from the airport. there is a curfew tonight. no one in after 5:00 p.m. no one moving around after 8:00 p.m. earlier today i spoke with a rapper artist, named nafar, he lives there and is a palestinian and is scared. he watched as jewish settlers
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roamed freely, the police did not step in and he said they're preparing for bigger protests tonight. benny ganz says this is a bigger threat than the hamas rockets. you have to add to that against the backdrop of a total power vacuum on both sides, neither the israeli leadership or the palestinian leadership have a mandate over their respective populations to pull people back, whether in gaza or in israel. craig? >> molly hunter, following the violence there, molly, thank you. later this hour we expect to see president biden talk about the hack on the pipeline that caused high gas prices and long lines at the pump, when the president starts those remarks we'll take you there. first up, new meetings this week on police reform in washington. where those negotiations stand and why qualified immunity is such a big sticking point. we've got a very special guest who is taking on that issue.
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. this morning democrats are signaling they may be closer to a deal on police reform, but the issue of qualified immunity, the doctrine that makes it difficult to sue police officers, that's still up in the air. this is what the congressman of the democratic caucus chair told reporters wednesday. >> it will be the most progressive police reform bill ever to pass the united states congress and to be signed into law. what version of reform in terms of qualified immunity makes night that bill remains to be seen. >> nbc capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell joins me now with more on where things stand. so lee ann, we knew qualified immunity was going to be a sticking point. now you've got both congressman jeffries and congressman clyburn both signaling it may be on the
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table. what do we know about where the bill stands right now? >> that's right, craig. it's important to note they are not directly involved in theser inations but they are both very influential among the democratic caucus and members of leadership and have strong ties to the civil rights community as well, so while they are saying this publicly about qualified immunity, perhaps saying that it could be pushed down the road, the actual negotiators, though, in the meetings, are not so willing to give up on the issue just yet. let's listen to some sound. >> congressman said that qualified immunity is something they want to see eliminated on the house side. >> i'm on the exact opposite side. >> does that still remain a sticking point? >> we're making progress. >> reporter: that was senator tim scott, republican of south carolina, leading the negotiations for the
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republicans, and they admit that qualified immunity is still an issue that something needs to be resolved. you have these different threads of what could happen. they just ignore qualified immunity, save it for another day like representative clyburn has suggested? do they do some sort of compromise like senator tim scott has suggested or what democrat karen bass and senator corey booker wants, which is a complete reform of the entire issue? so a reading between these lines, though, craig, and the fact that clyburn and jeffries were so out front saying that perhaps it could be less, some parts of it, to another day, means that perhaps that is a green light for the negotiators to move forward, regardless of what happens on qualified immunity. we're getting very close to this presidential inspired deadline of may 25th, the anniversary of george floyd's death, and when they want some sort of
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legislation. there's talk it's happening. both sides still say progress. we have to take it for what it is. craig? >> lee ann, to be clear, i mean is qualified immunity the sort of the hangup? is that sort of the biggest hang juf? are there other issues that seem to be keeping the two sides far apart? >> qualified immunity is one of them but there's also another component and that's called section 242. i think of it as qualified immunity is this civil accountability of the police officer. section 24 -- 242 is for the officer if there is misconduct out in the field. 242 is another major sticking point. this is something that senator scott has said from the beginning is his red line, something that he does not want touched or changed and so there still needs to be a lot of
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progress on that issue as well, craig. >> okay. leigh ann caldwell on the hill for us, thank you. a few moments we expect to hear president biden talk about the pipeline hack led to a gas shortage. gas station in north carolina are out of gas. why the white house thinks that should end soon. first, though, a major breakthrough in the fight against covid. kids as young as 12 are allowed to get the pfizer vaccine. i'll talk to the doctor who ran the trials for pfizer. his message for nervous parents and when he thinks kids as young as 3 or 4 could get the shot. next. or 4 could get the shot next we didn't stop at storage or cloud. we kept going. working with our customers to enable the kind of technology that can guide an astronaut back to safety. and help make a hospital come to you, instead of you going to it.
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end qualified immunity. he's ben cohen, the co-chair of the campaign to end qualified immunity. he's also the author of the book "above the law, how qualified immunity protects violent police." oh, by the way, he is the ben in ben & jerry's ice cream. i know you and jerry greenfield have been vocal social activists for decades now, but what made you want to get involved in this specific fight? >> well, you know, i think jerry and myself, like so many millions of americans, have been outraged at all the videos we've been seeing of police killing, murdering unarmed black people. you know, it came to a head with the murder of george floyd, and
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we just couldn't stand idly by. we wanted to do something about it. we started researching why is it that these cops, you know, the relatively few bad cops that are doing this stuff, seem to be getting away with murder. in most cases they're not prosecuted and if they are, you know, like two years later, you hear they got away with a slap on the wrist. so, you know, we researched it and found it's this issue of qualified immunity that keeps cops from being held accountable and we decided to take care of it, to try to do our best to change it, to end this really absurd legal doctrine. >> i mean, your book tells the story of 12 people affected by police brutality and how you say qualified immunity prevented
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them from seeking justice. we heard the issue maybe left out of the bill now. what would you say to democrats who are willing to compromise on that part of it just to get something passed? >> i think what we've learned as business people is that accountability is everything. if you don't hold your employees accountable, you're essentially telling them whatever you're telling them doesn't really matter, and that's the same with the police. i mean, you can do any kind of training you want, require body cameras, whatever, but if you don't hold them accountable when they break the law, it's like saying, well, you know, we're saying this stuff, but we don't really mean it. so, yeah, we think that this is the most critical and important part of reforming policing, is to hold cops accountable, just
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like an individual citizen is held accountable. i mean, the reality is, is that if i haul off and punch you in the face, you can sue me. if a cop does the same thing to you, the case will get thrown out of court. >> ben, i know one of the goals of your campaign to end qualified immunity was to get it done in the first 100 days of the biden administration. we've obviously passed that mark. do you have a new goal in mind? is there a new timetable? >> well, the effort is to try to get this bill passed by may 25th, the anniversary of george floyd's death, and so we're shooting for that. >> okay. ben cohen, again, of obviously
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ice cream fame, also has become quite the social activist for years now on talking about his push to end qualified immunity. ben cohen, thank you, sir. thank you. >> all right. thank you. also this morning, a hopeful new sign in this pandemic. the amount of american lives lost to covid-19, it's hit a ten-month low. the average has tumbled to around 600 deaths per day and in more than half of all states, that number is in the single digits, even zero on some days. all of this coming as the cdc officially signs off on vaccinating kids as young as 12. it clears the way for 17 million more americans to get the shot. nbc's sam brock is outside jackson memorial hospital in miami, florida. today they are going to start getting shots in the arms of kids 12 and older. i would assume it's probably started to happen.
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the hospital you are stopped giving out first doses over a lack of demand and now they're back. what are you hearing from kids and families there? >> craig, good morning. that's exactly right. they are starting with kid vaccinations 12 to 18 years old today. of course that's a very good thing. almost 60% of the u.s. adult population has received one shot. in my conversations with parents, what i'm learning even if they are vaccinated the idea of getting their children vaccinated is a completely different ball game and generally fall in two camps, one of which is i've heard this a lot, it's not ideology or politics, the lack of research, chirp's bodies are still developing, i'm not sure if i want my kid to get the vaccine. one woman was worried injecting mrna into their system could alter their dna. talked to multiple pedia traces, they said it does not penetrate the nucleus of your cell.
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you have someone who i interviewed yesterday who has two kids, ten people in her family have contracted covid-19. they lost a loved one to the virus. her perspective is completely different. here's what she had to say. >> once he's vaccinated how are you going to feel? >> a sense of relief. a total relief. every time we go out, every time we are around people, every time we have is a chance to, you know, probably get it, there's always that concern. if he does get it how will his body react to it? that's always the biggest question mark. i don't know. i can't trust the virus. i don't know how it affects all of us differently. >> reporter: so for so many families, for so many parents like hers, this is a weight off of their chest. now in other places governments are having to get creative to try to incentivize people to get shots. an example of that would be in ohio where if you're over the age of 18 and have at least one shot, almost 5 million people in
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that state, you are entered into a drawing to win a million bucks. you have a one in 5 million chance of getting paid just to get vaccinated and i know you would never question my math or my arithmetic on that, so you can take that to the bank. craig, back to you. >> i would not. i would not question your arithmetic on that. sam brock for us in florida, thanks as always. i want to bring in the senior vice president of pfizer's vaccine clinical research and development. dr. william gruber, oversees pfizer's pediatric covid vaccine clinical trials on kids 6 months to 15 years old. dr. gruber, thank you for your time. let's start with what we just heard from sam, and the parent that he talked to. she said she felt relieved getting her child this vaccine. how much does it help our fight against the virus that younger people can get this vaccine? >> yes.
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thanks for having me. obviously it's a great day after the positive vote from the acip. i think there are several reasons for families to feel relief. the first being, the potential to protect their loved one 12 to 15 years of age from severe disease. we heard as region as yesterday that although in general children and adolescents tend to have severe disease less commonly, nonetheless children that are hospitalized, we heard about a teenager that had a heart attack and we know how uncommon that otherwise is in that age group. another key piece is, of course, this allows adolescents to get back to being adolescents, to be able to gather both at school as well as in sporting activities, other school-related events that they've been deprived from doing over the past year. it's understandable that parents
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as well as the teenagers themselves see this as a great positive step forward. >> dr. gruber, there's a recent kaiser family foundation survey that found more than 40% of parents either would not get their kids vaccinated or would only do it if required by their child's school. some parents told us they were nervous. take a listen. >> i think it's a definite maybe. i think it's pretty safe, but, you know, it's scary always to be the first ones to do it. >> it is scary. it seems like a brand new thing and, you know, all these unknowns, they're legitimate reasons to be hesitant and we all need to do the best we can to protect ourselves and protect other people. >> dr. gruber, what do you say to the parents who are nervous about getting their kids vaccinated? >> i say that they should feel some reassurance from the fact
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that the fda as well as the cdc has reviewed the safety, the immune response and the effectiveness of the vaccine and all have come away with a positive assessment of the potential benefits versus the risks of the vaccine. again, we heard a 14-0 vote yesterday from an independent group of physicians and public health experts who acknowledged that yes, as one might expect, there are sometimes reactions that one sees with the vaccine, but importantly, the benefits far outweigh the risks and that's what allowed them to make a -- or have a vote of 14-0 recommending that all 12 to 15-year-olds receive the vaccine. i would say again, people need to think about not only the benefits for the health, but the idea that these children can now engage in school and other
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activities that to which they have not been able tope gauge over the past year. >> dr. gruber, meanwhile, many of us who have had the vaccine and full disclosure i got the pfizer vaccine, were left with this open question now, what's next? will people who got the pfizer vaccine need a booster shot? >> yeah. so that's a common question that, of course, comes up and we're actively investigating this in two respects. number one, we have an ongoing study to look at the potential for a booster dose to raise immune response to the level that's been associated with protection, but also looking at when it would be important to receive that booster by looking at the nature of how long protection lasts. and i think we can say now that we got good data that suggests that protection lasts at a very high level up to six months of
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after vaccination, and we will look over the longer term to see how well that persists. it is conceivable a booster may be necessary a year or so after the original vaccine. >> we'll have more information about that as we enter the fall. if it turns out protection doesn't last a fuel year we would d full year we would have data to support booster data at that time. >> we know that pfizer is doing trials for kids younger than 12. what's the latest on those trials and when can parents of younger kids expect the vaccine to be available for them? >> yes. that is an important question. we're actively engaged in trials down to 6 months of age and we anticipate that we will have data in the early fall of september and october time frame for children 2 years of age and
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above and then if all goes as planned by the end of the year or the first part of next year, data to submit to regulatory authorities for 6 months to 2 years of age. i would say all of this is really important not only for the health benefits for the individual and the benefits of getting people and children back to their regular lives but getting to that elusive goal so far of herd protection. we're beginning to see some inroads i think by virtue of the adult rates of covid-19 coming down, but i am convinced and i think public health officials are convinced that we can do better once we get a broader section of the population immunized that includes children. >> dr. gruber, thank you so much for your time this morning. i know how busy you are. do appreciate you, sir. >> thank you for having me. we are following some breaking news involving the
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trial of those other three former officers who have been charged in connection with george floyd's murder. gabe gutierrez back with me now. gabe, what can you tell us? >> well, craig we have the breaking developments now trickling out of that courtroom in minneapolis. the trial for those three officers is now being delayed until march 7th of next year. it had been scheduled to start in august but just a short time ago, the judge in this case said that there needs to be some space from the publicity that is no doubt going to occur following derek chauvin's sentencing on june 25th. also, that means that the federal civil rights trial will apparently go first before this state trial for those three other officers. the defense wanted that. the prosecution opposed that, according to the pool notes we're starting to get. also, craig, there were several other motions discussed this morning. one of them involving that potential leak that "the new
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york times" and the associated press reported on, essentially that derek chauvin was considering a potential plea deal that then attorney general bill barr rejected. well, the attorney for officer thao says that he wants to actually put prosecutors under oath on rejected. the lawyer for officer thao said he wanted to put witnesses on the stand and find out how that leak happened. that is a potential controversy. the attorney for one of the former officers alleging there was prosecutorial misconduct because of that leak. the headline is that the trial for the three former officers is now scheduled for march of next year, being delayed for several months so that the federal case
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can move forward. craig? >> gabe, again, these three officers are out on bond. this morning's hearing did not change that at all. >> that's correct. they are charged with aiding and abetting. as you know, their trial coming after derek chauvin was convicted of second and third degree murder and manslaughter. the trial had been scheduled for august, and the news now is that the judge is pushing it back to next year. gabe gutierrez with the breaking news out of minneapolis. thank you, gabe, as always. we continue to watch the white house because we expect president biden to talk more about the cyber attack on the colonial pipeline company. the president talked about
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obtaining i.t. service providers to talk to them about cyber attacks. if you need gas, look at those numbers. 69% out of fuel. same goes for gas stations in virginia. 48% in south carolina. the pipeline is back up and running, but it will take a few days for supply to get back to normal. tom is at a gas station in charlotte, north carolina. yesterday there was a line of cars. you don't seem to have the same line today, but what are you hearing from drivers there? >> things are changing pretty dramatically, at least around charlotte. the lines yesterday were al
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over the place. we are seeing more and more stations come online. the fuel truck came in and people were celebrating the driver. he said he feels like a savior. he said people are following him to see where gas is. the prices are coming down little by little. gas buddy is saying they are seeing the numbers decline little by little. long lines went to the gas station and bought up all of the supplies. now the fuel trucks are trying to bring all of the gas back. even though the colonial pipeline shut down, for the time being they had fuel. but people got nervous and lined up for gas.
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we spoke to truckers yesterday when the situation was bad. >> there is no supply issue. it's just the pipeline getting here. truck drivers are having to sit 2, 2 1/2 hours just to get loaded. >> the difference between yesterday and today is night and day. people are not lining up. we are going to gas stations who say we ran out of gas yesterday. we have no idea when the next fuel truck is coming. it may be a couple days. people have to have patience. people who got low on empty, can get gas now, but they just have to find the gas station who has it. >> tom, thanks, as always. we showed you the live pictures as speaker pelosi was talking. we want to update you on something she said. she addressed claims from
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several republican lawmakers downplaying the violence on january 6 at the capitol. here is what she said. >> i don't know of a normal day where people are threatening to hang the vice president much the united states or shoot the speaker. i don't consider that normal. we have to establish a commission for january 6. why? it was just a normal tourist day. it is the same denial they had for liz cheney, the denial about what happened that day. >> house speaker nancy pelosi just a few moments ago. ahead in the next hour my colleague andrea mitchell will stay on top of the latest
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