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nes and serious allergic reactions have happened. you could take your uc treatment in a different direction. ask your gastroenterologist about xeljanz. if it's friday, americans are looking at what comes next after the cdc's major announcement that vaccinated people can ditch the mask in most cases. we will speak with the director of the national institutes of health, dr. francis collins, in just a moment. a major bipartisan agreement is announced to form an investigation to investigate the january 6th siege at the capitol. some republicans are still trying to push back. we will speak with the top democratic party negotiator on the deal, the chairman of the house homeland security committee, bennie thompson. the fighting intensifies in
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gaza while jewish and arab civilians clash on the streets. this one seems a lot worse than 2014 with no clear end in sight. ♪♪ welcome to friday. it's "meet the press daily." what a friday it is. i'm chuck todd. the shock wave of the cdc's announcement after lifting nearly all masking. it's a turning point in our battle against the pandemic. it's an assurance and incentive for many the vaccines really do work and they are worth it. >> for now, after a year of hard work and so much sacrifice, the rule is very simple.
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get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do. >> from a political standpoint, the announcement could not have come at a better time for a white house was mired in a mess of headlines about gas shortages and panic at the pump. the public health officials and state officials by surprise. it was just two weeks ago that the cdc put out guidance reiterating many of its mask recommendations for vaccinated people. not anymore. today, the news is everywhere. boston to st. louis, south bend, omaha, louisville, flagstaff, silicon valley, sin city, everybody lifting the mask guy answer. the gas shortage, it's not below the full. the department of defense has loosened its mask requirements.
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a number of states have begun lifting their mask mandates after the cdc's announcement. a number of companies are reviewing their guidance. i know we got an email this morning at this company saying that guidance will get reviewed. we are following reaction to this news. still, the big questions that it is raising. we want to dive in. i will speak with dr. francis collins, the director of the national institutes of health. first for reaction on the ground, ellison barber is in mississippi, a state -- i believe it is still under 50% when it comes to vaccination. what are you finding? >> reporter: yeah, 30%. under 30% fully vaccinated. that's one of the lowest states -- it's the lowest according to "the new york times." i checked of all 50 states. they are 50 out of 50. despite that, they have previously lifted almost all of their covid-19-related restrictions.
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the only one that remains since the end of the month was wearing masks in schools. i want to show you where i'm at. we are at a restaurant in biloxi, mississippi. they are looking at this guidance and trying to decide how they handle what they do with their employees moving ahead as it relates to masks. if you look behind me, you can see they are working on shucking oysters over here. in this area, staff don't technically need to be wearing face masks, according to the owner's rules. one person is. for the time being, they are still asking servers and having their servers wear face masks when they get the oysters and take them to the table. as we see servers come in and out, they are typically wearing face masks before they go to the table. they are making that decision right now because they want to give staff time to hear about the changes, the guidelines and customers and they want to see
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how star feel as well as customers. the owner that we have spoken to says he feels confident his staff will be eager to stop wearing face masks when they are dealing with customers and going to serve them at tables. customers, the reaction could be different. from speaking with people in this area just out and about, we have heard everything from this is great and we have been waiting for this to we haven't been wearing masks for weeks because the mandates were lifted here to, have you looked at the vaccination rate, i don't feel comfortable not wearing a mask in has 26% of their residents fully vaccinated. chuck? >> ellison, you did a good job laying out what i think is the new conundrum here for the american public and trying to figure out, okay, when do they wear a mask. ellison on the ground for us in biloxi, thank you. dr. collins, it is, first of all -- it's an exciting 24 hours
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to know that we -- it feels like the closest we have come to being able to declare some end here. i gotta ask, in the last couple of weeks, under whether it was questioning on capitol hill, questioning by the media, the cdc and a lot of the public health officials seemed to be pretty sure we were going to be in this some form of a mask requirement longer. what changed and how did it change sew quickly? >> i think -- first of all, you started off calling this a shockwave. isn't it nice we have good news? let's take a moment and go hooray for that. >> yes, i'm with you. >> how did things change? some is new data that's arriving. the efficacy of the vaccines, which we knew was high, 94%, 95%, in carefully controlled clinical trials, what happens when you get out in the real world? it's 94% to 95%.
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these vaccines are incredibly effective. people who are fully vaccinated, like me, really are now in a position where you can be in various circumstances and not worry nearly as much as you did before. i think also, there's more data that people who are vaccinated are less likely to be carrying the virus without knowing it themselves and, therefore, potentially posing a risk to others. that seems to have gone down. putting that all together, looking at what's happened in israel, which is maybe a couple of months ahead of us in terms of their vaccination rate, and seeing they have relaxed all of the stipulations and seem to be doing fine, although there's other possible things happening in israel, it does give you confidence that the time is now to ease up on this. cdc has a tough time with this. let's give them a break. if they make a mistake -- i'm sure some people think maybe they just did -- of getting too relaxed and then we have an outbreak and there has to be going back to masks again, there will be a lot of mad people.
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i think it's time to take the chance, as they have done, and to see if all of us can get closer back to normal life. a funny story, i have a trainer i work out with twice a week. today for the first time, he took off his mask, as i did, because we're immunized. i realized, the guy had braces put on 12 months ago. i never saw his face. i didn't know that. there's a lot of discoveries happening here. >> there is. you just actually anticipated -- i would like you to follow up a little bit more on a potential question. you sort of hinted, you never know, the cdc may have to rescind this leniency because of a spike. what would you be looking for or what would they be looking for where they would think, oh, you know what, maybe we lifted this too soon? is it a spike -- is it a move in the number of cases in
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vaccinated places? is there a specific metric you would be looking at that would say, maybe we did this too quick? >> i don't think they change the opportunity now for fully vaccinated people to go around outside without masks. that's not really going to change. i think the edge of this is what happens indoors with crowded spaces, which if it's really crowded, you are still encouraged to wear your mask. less crowded spaces, if it looks as if in certain communities the virus is coming back or if there's a new variant that seems particularly contagious, then we may need to adjust that. part of cdc's problem is they have to make recommendations for the whole country. the situation in different parts of the country is different, as you heard about the report from alabama. you look at maine, for instance, where the vaccination rates are very high, it doesn't seem quite like that is the same thing. they have to come up with an average. let's be clear, cdc put out the recommendations. they made it clear that state and local jurisdictions may have
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different views and you should listen to those. businesses may have different views about whether it's safe to be indoors. certainly, hospitals and correctional facilities and nursing homes and travel on planes and buses and trains, this is not a moment to take your mask off. follow those guidelines. >> look, this guidance almost seems to encourage the private sector to come up with a vaccine mandate. right? you have to come up with some -- if the rule is, fully vaccinated people can go without masks, well then the next inevitable question is, how do we check to see if somebody is vaccinated? we have cards. different companies -- cruise lines are doing this and others are doing this. is that what you are hoping happens here, that essentially the private sector becomes the enforcer? >> i don't know about hoping. i think the private sector is
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pretty smart. they will figure out in their given situations what makes sense. i can assure you, the federal government is not going to be issuing vaccine passports. that's been made very clear. private concerns have the opportunity to do so. universities, of course, many of them have already declared if you live on campus, you need to be vaccinated. there is some legal issue about this, because the vaccines have not yet had final approval. they are under emergency use authorization. we will see how those legal battles play out. every university, every businessowner will have to figure out what makes the most sense to keep their workers safe, get the economy goes again and then make that judgment. >> there was no guidance or not obvious guidance given to parents of unvaccinated. i'm in a household of two fully vaccinated people, one almost fully vaccinated teenager and one who is not yet vaccinated.
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i imagine i'm not the only person with children under 18 at home that way. what is the guidance if you have a child under 12 where you don't even have an opportunity to get vaccined? >> i think if you dig down into the deeper pages of cdc, they address that. i'm not sure it gives you a precise answer. a lot has to do with what is the risk in your community that that underage child is potentially going to be infected and going to spread it. if you and the rest of the family are vaccinated, your chance of catching that is now so low that i would say the chances are really low and you should not have to worry about that case. on the other hand, that child who is not vaccinated, may need to wear a mask when they go to school if there's community spread to be -- in order to not be part of the next outbreak. >> what are you going to do when it comes to wearing a mask? how often do you expect to wear one? where would you do it?
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>> i am looking forward to new opportunities to go to the grocery store and not wear a mask. i've been faithful about that. i think i mentioned this morning being able to do a workout with my wife and with the trainer with all of our masks off. that hasn't happened before. when it comes to going to work at nih, we're still a federal facility. we are trying to figure out whether the federal mandate for mask wearing has been abolished by this finding. we don't know that yet. otherwise, people are confused by this. let me give a recommendation. if you go to google and do cdc choosing safer activities, there is a very helpful visual that looks like this about when you can wear a mask and when you don't have to. one side of this, this side is people who are immunized. a lot of green. this is the side for people who aren't yet immunized who need to wear masks and for whom there are dangerous settings. we need to be clear about that. everybody is going, we don't
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have to wear masks. that applied to fully immunized people. if you are not, you are still at risk. to yourself and to others. things still need to be pretty faithful as far as mask wearing. i hope that came across. maybe it's an incentive for people who will get around to. it's time to actually do so. if you are wondering where to get vaccinated, 438829, text it and punch in your zip code and you will get answers. >> carrots and sticks. lotteries in ohio. vaccine mandates. whatever it takes, let's get more people vaccinated. dr. collins, thanks for coming on. >> whatever it is, yeah. >> i take it, if it entices people to get the vaccine, you are for it. dr. collins, thanks for bringing your optimism as well to the show. it's always a pleasure. >> it's a good day for optimism. we didn't even talk about the
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fact that adolescents can get safely immunized as well. my 14-year-old granddaughter is getting her shot tomorrow. this is great. >> my 14-year-old is ecstatic about next week when he gets it. i hear you. thank you, sir. let me bring in somebody who has to interpret the guidance. it's the governor of the commonwealth of pennsylvania, it's governor tom wolf. governor wolf, thanks for coming on. you heard dr. collins there. you read the cdc requirements. you talked to your public health officials. what conclusions are you coming to? >> well, it is confusing, the cdc guidelines basically say if you are fully immunized, two weeks after your final dose, you don't have to wear a mask if you are going to be outside and about. they are saying, if you are in close quarters inside, if you are going to a hospital, if you are in public transition, if you are in a long-term care facility, wear a mask. i think as the doctor said,
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people will make different interpretations of this in different places. i know businesses, private organizations are making decisions. we have had companies in pennsylvania say, if you want to come in, no shirt, in shoes, no service, no mask, no service. i think there are a lot of different interpretations of this. i think we're following the cdc guidelines in pennsylvania. we will take away the mask fully, the mandate as soon as we get to 70% people having had fully vaccinated. >> i'm confused about that. are you waiting until you hit 70% before you lift? are you lifting immediately? >> we're still looking at this. we were taken by surprise by the cdc announcement. as of today, we are still looking at it.
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what we initially said, which is we get to 70% herd immunity, then we will lift the mask mandate. we're going fully open aside from the mask mandate on may 31st. we're only a few weeks away from being fully open. i think that's what people are looking forward to. as of the 17th, we are saying, anybody -- outdoor events can be 75% capacity. indoor events are 50% capacity. people should wear masks. we are moving quickly toward being reopened. >> what kind of incentiveyou tr develop? the report that had half of philly's firefighters vaccinated, this is clearly a hesitancy issue. what tactics are you thinking of
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here? are you going the bonus route, going the mandate route? all of the above? >> pennsylvania is doing very well right now. we're at 53.6% in first doses, over 18 is actually approaching 70%. the vaccinated population, those 65 and older who have had at least one dose is over 95%. in pennsylvania, people seem to be willing to get the vaccine. we are at the top of the charts. we're the highest in terms of first doses of any large state. i think pennsylvania is doing well at this point. i'm not sure we need incentives. >> you are not concerned about this firefighter survey in philly where about half of firefighters local 22 reported being vaccinated?
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>> i'm always concerned when there's a group that is at 50%. i was at a hospital yesterday where the rate of medical professionals was 80%. it varies from place to place. what i think we have seen is the hesitancy is not so much a matter of definitely going to get the vaccine, it's a matter of, i'm not sure i want it. the folks are persuadable. i'm not what was working with the firefighters in philly. my hope is that eventually they get the vaccine, too. >> i want to ask you, quite a few republican governors, when it comes to unemployment insurance, have decided to not use the additional money, add the extra benefits. where are you on that? do you want to keep the extra benefits going for as long as the federal government provides them? >> yeah, i want to keep the
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benefits. i think people are getting better benefits and they deserve it. i know the april jobs report was a disappointment. i don't think it's because the benefits were too rich. if you look back at coming out of the great recession, the benefits were lower and the unemployment rate was higher. i think there are other things at work. people want to feel safe going back to work. there's a need for childcare. i'm not sure that generosity of benefits had anything to do with it. if you look at the united states total, the biggest job growth was in the hospitality industry, which is not known for high wages. >> a fair point there. pennsylvania governor tom wolf, democrat from the commonwealth. thanks for sharing your perspective. appreciate it. >> thanks, chuck. up next, democratic congressman benny thompson will be here for his first tv interview since his announcement that they have struck a deal to form a bipartisan commission to
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. welcome back. for the first time today, there appears to be real movement on the creation of a bipartisan commission to investigate the siege on the capitol, like the 9/11 commission. more than four months after the riots, house homeland security chairman bennie thompson and tom katkow announced they reached an agreement for the creation of ten folks to investigate the events of january 6th and the security failures leading up to it. it comes days after some house republicans minimized, defended and denied some of the basic facts of what happened on january 6th. it comes on the same day that house republicans elected
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congresswoman elise stefanik to replace liz cheney because of cheney's criticism of trump's election lies that led to the riots. i'm joined by the democrat chairman of the house homeland security committee, bennie thompson. congressman, walk me through who is it -- it's a ten person commission, five appointed by republicans, five by democrats. who is eligible to be on the commission and who is not? >> i will make it easy. no sitting member of congress is eligible to participate on the commission. we want to look at law enforcement, civil rights, other individuals who might have an interest in what went on on january 6th. specifically, no member of congress can sit. >> and subpoena power, it is
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what happens when there's a deadlock on a subpoena, if it's 5-5 or the chairman and vice chairman can't agree? >> it's a shared responsibility. it's a bipartisan commission. i'm anticipating very little challenges with respect to getting access to information. i personally supported the formation of the commission. and i think every other chairperson or agency here in this administration would be amenable to providing whatever information that we deem necessary the commission might need. >> you guys have come to this agreement. this now getting written as legislation and brought to the floor, or will this still need to be haggled with a bit? >> we go to rules on tuesday morning with the bill.
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>> got it. >> we hope to get a favorable ruling from rules and go straight to the floor and ultimately, by the close of business on thursday, we will have done our job in the house and then it's up to the senate. >> i'm sure you have seen kevin mccarthy's initial reaction to the announcement that you came to a deal. he said he hasn't signed off on it yet. he added that it was very concerning to him that it had been -- that some parts of the agreement -- that the scope wasn't as broad. >> we have been negotiating in good faith since mid january, back and forth. people have exchanged concers to the extent we could, we met
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people where they wanted to be. i hope the minority leader will come forward and support it. it's a good document. it's a good piece of legislation. we have to have it. the men and women who put their lives on the line on january 6th deserve the best protection, the public who come to washington and want to see the citadel of democracy deserve to feel safe. so this is our opportunity to identify the shortcomings and recommend what we can do to ensure that that is, in fact, the case. >> the issue of scope, what do you believe this commission will not be investigating? >> well, we want to look at the incident around january 6th.
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chuck, we could go back two years, three years, but what happened on january 6th is an affront to our democracy. with some exception, the majority of people in this country don't want to ever see that again. it's the challenge for this commission to come with recommendations to protect the capitol, protect the workers so that it won't happen, but also we still have to stand for principles and integrity. so that's why this bipartisan commission, composed of experts in various areas, will get us a document that we hope to codify and make laws from, just like we did with the 9/11 commission. they made certain
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recommendations, and those recommendations i'm proud to say became law in time. >> do you have an idea of some folks that you will recommend to speaker pelosi and majority leader schumer? maybe you have recommendations on the republican side, too. i know it's experts in specific -- when you look -- >> are you thinking something like -- >> bob gates -- >> there's no shortage of people making contact already. nominating themselves to serve. that will not be a problem. >> that's very washington. >> i think there will be -- i think it will be diverse as well as competent. >> when you have seen the attempt to change what happened, right -- we have this narrative attempt. we saw it on wednesday in the
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oversight committee. i know it wasn't in your committee. how much -- to me, is it a coincidence that after that gaslighting session that many house republicans parched in that suddenly there was an agreement? >> well, i would like to say that that got us to that point. but we were just about at this point where we are now. it's unfortunate that individuals are actually recreating what occurred on january 6th to basically infer that what people saw with their own eyes did not occur. that's unfortunate. we think that this bipartisan commission will look at it, will come back with sound recommendations that entire congress can look at. again, we take pride in the fact
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that this is a bipartisan product. it has taken us from mid january to this point to get to where we are. we now have until december 31 for this commission, subject to approval by the senate, to do its work. we anticipate movement on that. so i'm -- we heard yesterday that this was kind of like a tour of the capitol. most people know that's not the case. i think we will have competent people looking at this, making a good decision on behalf of the american people. >> these commissions can do good work. 9/11 commission, iraq group accomplished a lot and helped a lot of folks figure out some of the things that we didn't know. congressman thompson, good luck. hopefully this goes as we are
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overnight, israel stepped up its assault on gaza. 160 strikes intended to destroy a network of tunnels used by hamas. the israeli military called up 9,000 reservists and positioned additional troops along its border. hamas launched 1,800 missiles this week. for the first time in this conflict, rockets were fired at israel from lebanon last night. no one was injured. violence killed at least 119 palestinians and 8 israelis. joining me from tel aviv is richard engel. richard, there are so many reasons why this is an even -- you can't -- there's a bad time for violence in the middle east, but when you look at the political situation whether it's among the palestinians where essentially where they don't speak and the political situation in israel, is there
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any small g governor that can tap the brakes and reel this in? >> reporter: yes, there are a lot of reasons why both the israelis and the palestinians don't want to escalate this and might be looking for an off ramp. first on the palestinian side, the palestinian issue has not been on the agenda for the last several years. president trump was a close supporter of israel and gave israel almost all of its demands, moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem, recognizing the golan heights, making settlements more legitimate. the palestinian issue fell off. it fell off to the point that israel made a peace deal with the united arab emirates. the palestinians thought they were forgotten. they are determined to put it back on the international agenda. they may have succeeded in doing
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that. they don't want to see gaza destroyed. gaza is being destroyed. it would be more if there was a ground invasion. on the israeli side, israel was surprised that hamas had been able to build so much rockets over the last several years, rockets it has been firing. it has been destroying some of them and will continue to target those. there is a risk for israel of taking this too far, because it has that peace agreement with the uae, we are starting to see divisions reason israeli society, within arabs and jews who are all israeli citizens fighting against each other in militia groups. that's a serious challenge to the fabric of israeli society. if the prime minister and the military decide they have done enough to set back hamas' weapons program and rockets program, you could see both sides feeling that they have achieved their goals with the
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palestinians putting the issue on the agenda, saying they will not be forgotten and netanyahu walking away claiming victory as well. >> what have you learned about the rockets that came from lebanon? if it was hezbollah, would they have taken credit? >> reporter: the israelis are talking about this situation. i was in gaza in 2006. the 2006 war started in a situation almost exactly like this. there was an escalation between gaza and israel. that's why i was in gaza. then a new front opened up in lebanon. hezbollah started firing rockets into northern israel. the israelis ended up invading lebanon. it became a very costly war. there's reasons that hezbollah wouldn't want to do that right now. beirut has been suffering
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tremendously after the fertilizer explosion that tore through the city. it's having a currecy crisis. it might not open up a destructive war with israel as the country has been going through such domestic hardship. it's possible. >> more evidence that it's more likely probably not hezbollah and maybe rogue militants. richard on the ground there. thank you. be safe. after the break, i will be joined by the former point man on the middle east east. that's next. that's next. he itching ...the b. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis.
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east. he was a special assistant to multiple presidents in both parties, obama and clinton as well as president bush -- i believe both of them in different ways. ambassador ross, it's good to catch up with you. this situation -- you heard richard engel's take. do you accept his -- that this is one of those moments where while there's fear it could get worse, there are -- there's too many reasons why both sides actually want to deescalate and deescalate fast, do you buy that? >> i buy it only in part. i buy it that it's true that hamas demonstrated it is the defender of jerusalem and seizing the mantle of leadership and having scored those points better stop things now before they lose even more in gaza.
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i buy it that israel understands that it has to go in on the ground into gaza, the price would be very high and it's not exactly if you decapitate hamas, what are you left with, you own gaza then, is that what you want? i think there's -- it's true that on each side, neither sees great benefit in having this go on for a long time. but there's also a problem at the same point. the reason i say it is, from an israeli standpoint, hamas broke the rules of the game. they shot rockets at jerusalem. they tried to establish, in a sense, new rules of the game. israel has to re-establish its deterrent. to re-establish its deterrent, it has to inflict a high enough price as hamas leaders measure that price for this to be effective. this isn't a science. the question is, do the israelis have both a clear definition and is that definition right?
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does hamas decide that this is point to stop or not? i think there's a potential to bring this to an end soon. i see a lot of uncertainty. >> do we have the same amount of influence on israel as we have? do we have -- obviously, since we don't speak to hamas, we only speak to abbas, we have zero on the palestinian side. we are sending an envoy. what would be -- you have been in that similar situation. what would be your message to the israelis in trying to get -- convince them to deescalate here? >> my message to them would be, let's talk specifically about what you think you have to achieve to have deterrents. it's very much in your interest not to create such an elastic definition that you can never achieve it. then you are trapped. you really don't want to go in on the ground. let's have a clear definition in
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your own mind what this is. i would be working very closely with the egyptians right now. the only ones who have leverage on hamas are the egyptians. gaza has two borders, one with israel and one with egypt. equip has leverage. they brokered the last four cease-fires when there were major conflicts going back to 2012. they can go to hamas and say, we can use our influence with the israelis as well. don't expect us to save you from the israelis. don't expect us to open the border. you want us to be more responsive. here is what we need from you. i would use the egyptians. i think they are a pivotal player. i think they have an interest in showing the biden administration the value of the relationship. >> all right. what about -- look, i gotta ask you about the current political
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situation in israel. you have a lame duck prime minister who could have been on the verge of being deposed literally two days before this happened. there seemed to be momentum. now that's done. there's going to be another election. how concerned are you that netanyahu sees a lot of political up side in what's happened this week? >> i think it's a fact of life that politically his position is better today than a couple of days ago. on sunday, it looked very much like there was going to be an alternative government probably sworn in by the end of the week or at least this coming weekend. that's not going to be the case now. having said that, he is in a different position because of it. and he also has to be careful not to let this go too far. if in the end, the pressure remains on tel aviv, it will be
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welcome back. if it's friday it means we have a new episode of "meet the press reports." it's on ondemand right now on peacock. we took on the biggest voting bloc in country. there are more voters millennial age than anyone else. how they view politics will determine the constitution. as they reach 40 and enter into the higher reaches of government, we'll look into how they feel. my partner talked to millennial
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voters. take a listen. >> now one of the first millennial white house contenders has become the first millennial cabinet member. and the first senate member born after 1980 has won a seat in congress. there are even millennial raps that formed their own caucus. representative sarah jacobs co-chairs it. susan davis finished out her last term at age 76. congresswoman jacobs is 32. >> our generation has a very different perspective on things. we graduated college in the middle of that great recession. we're now experiencing the second huge economic crisis in our adult life. >> so, savannah, we wanted to do this because millennials are technically the largest voting generation, but they have yet to be the largest actual group of voters yet, but we know they're
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about to be. democrats, republicans or none of the above have the best shot at becoming the party of millennial? >> you know what, chuck, actually, one of the most fascinating things we found out is they are members of all parties. in fact, there is somebody in our piece who is a genzeer, a generation below. he's a republican, but the most fascinating thing about millennials is he agrees with what a lot of his democratic counterparts say because millennials have been forged by these shared crises. you heard one talk about the economic crisis. they want to reach across the aisle and find some common ground, and i think that's going to be one of the most interesting things we see as they come into these positions more and more and get elected to them. >> hey, you know what, the greatest generation had the war veterans on both sides of the
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aisle who commonly got together to get things done in the '60s, '70s and '80s. you may be on to something. this is a terrific episode, just like all of them. you can watch the whole thing streamly on peacock right now. that does it for us this hour. we'll be back on monday. i have a packed show for you on sunday because it's been one heck of a week. msnbc continues after this with jeff bennet after this break. bk ] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. [sfx: kids laughing] [sfx: bikes passing] [sfx: fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. okay. mother and child in vehicle. mother is unable to exit the vehicle. injuries are unknown. thank you, onstar.
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