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it. but they were fantastic. thank you so much for the intro of them. we'll see you next saturday. appreciate you. >> thanks, alex, you, too. and everybody, we start this hour with breaking news, and this is out of the middle east. let's take a listen to something that we have here. some nap sound. [ explosions ] >> as i welcome you all to the show, you're watching alex witt reports and it's high noon in the east and 9:00 a.m. out west. this video just in, and it shows an implosion after an israeli air strike hit a building and in that building, media outlets
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what do we know about this? do we know if everyone is safe, any lives taken and injuries? what do we know? >> alex, a surreal and pretty horrifying scene. this, as you said was a multi-story building in downtown gaza city that housed the associated press, al jazeera and other media outlets and earlier today, the owner of that building got a call from the israeli army saying we're going to bomb that building. so our fellow colleague, our media journalist friend his just enough time to get out of their offices, cross the street and turn their cameras around and filmed their offices being destroyed in an air strike. as far as we know, everybody made it out of that building safely. the israeli military says hamas was also using the building to house military assets. they have not given much detail on what those assets were, but they say this was a legitimate
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military target, but this is causing outcry across the world. the president of the associated press gary pruit says he is shocked and horrified. in a statement, he went on to say this is an incredibly disturbing development. we narrowly avoided a terrible loss of life. the world will know less about what is happening in gaza because of what happened today, and alex, that is true. israel is not allowing international journalists into gaza right now, so we are very dependent on palestinian journalists at places like the associated press to know what is going on in there. the white house also weighing in. press secretary jen psaki saying in a tweet, we've communicated directly to the israelis that ensuring the safety and security of journalists is a paramount responsibility. i will say one last thing. we are all very focused rightly on the destruction of these media offices, but palestinian families also lived in that building, and many of them
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tonight may not know where they're going to sleep because their homes have also been destroyed in that air strike. alex? >> so raf, help me to understand this, you said that these media outlets that they got a call. how does that work? they get a call and hey, there's a rocket coming your way in three minutes? how does that work? >> reporter: this is one of the very, very strange things about these wars in gaza. the israeli military seems to know almost every building, every street in that area and often when it is striking a building, one of these high-rises like this, they will call the owner of that building on the cell phone and say, listen, get everybody out. you have 45 minutes, we're going to hit that building and they sometimes will fire a smaller missile at the roof of the building and they call it a door knocker or a roof knocker, rather, and the idea is to give people a warning to get out. there is a strong debate about
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whether that is within the realms of international law, but the israeli military says they do it to minimize civilian casualties, and it does appear so far that nobody was hurt. >> first time i hear about this door knocker -- look at this implosion, this is pretty incredible, everyone. hamas has the ability to have pinpoint precision that they can send something on top of a roof that they intend to level and what is that like. when you say it is a door knocker and what does that sound like and can it be heard throughout the entire building and how do they get citizens and regular residents out of that building? >> the answer is they don't always know. usually, what they do is they fly a drone over the building and then will fire a relatively low-grade explosive munition on to the roof. the idea being that will warn everybody in the building, but
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in time in the past these roof knockers have killed people themselves and on occasions not everyone has been able to get out in time and this is a system that israel uses to reduce civilian casualties, but when you are firing heavy weapons in a dense area like gaza city there can be no guarantees that people will not get killed. a strike last night inrefugee camp killed ten people including eight children. that means nearly 40 kids have been killed in gaza so far. so the israeli military can be as careful as it can be, but in a place like this, civilians will get killed in the process. ? thank you for correcting me. that was from the israeli military and we know they have incredible precision with their rockets and military tools there. okay, raf, thank you so much. we will stay following this because it is ongoing, everybody. pretty extraordinary things happening right now in the middle east. let's go to nbc's monica alba
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joining us from the white house where president biden has been in the oval office this morning. this is somewhat unusual for the president on a weekend. do you think this is related to what raf was reporting about, the air strikes? >> we do know the white house is monitoring the situation very closely. you heard raf and the tweet from jen psaki saying they have directly communicated with the israelis specifically on the topic on the building that was home to the a.p. bureau and other media outlets. i am told that the president has been in the oval office for meetings and it is unclear the subject of that and you have to imagine that he is monitoring all of this unfolding and that's likely a part of it, but we have reached out for detail and clarity. it is unusual to see the marine out here outside of the west wing which is an indication that the president is at work as opposed to in the residence and that's because the president over the last three or so months
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has usually been spending his weekends at his home in wilmington, delaware or camp david when we don't have as much of a visual to represent to how he is spending that. he has certainly been briefed and he's tracking it and they're determined to put out any other statements and any other forceful condemnation of this or some kind of statement to indicate that they are reviewing it further before wading into this. we know the president hasn't given a full speech on what we've seen with israel and gaza. he's been asked about it by reporters. he has said that the u.s. stands with israel and that israel has a right to defend itself and he hasn't gotten into other specifics being very, very careful in using some of his language. we do know that he spoke with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on wednesday and that was their last public conversation that both the white house and israeli side provided a readout for and it's possible
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that the president has had more private discussions, of course, with leaders in the region that they haven't told us about yet and the president intends to keep on doing. a lot of this will happen behind the scenes as opposed to a public posturing. the president thought this could wrap up sooner than later and given the violence and the developments, this is very difficult to see if this is coming to any conclusion any time soon, alex. >> monica alba, we'll wait this out. thank you so much. now let's take a look at the other stories we are following at this hour. that includes celebration and confusion as the cdc says it is safe for fully vaccinated people to ditch their masks outdoors and indoors. what led to the about face and how americans vaccinated and unvaccinated are reacting and our reporters are on the ground with that and more. on capitol hill, tensions within the gop escalating today.
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congressman liz cheney is speaking out, congresswoman elise stefanik officially took her spot in the house. in a new interview saying kevin mccarthy should testify before the commission that will investigate the january 6th capitol riot. >> should kevin mccarthy be willing to speak, testify before that commission. after all, he is one of the few people that we know of that was actually talking to donald trump while the attack was taking place. >> he absolutely should, and i wouldn't be surprised if he were subpoenaed. >> and at the white house, president biden inching closer to a bipartisan deal on infrastructure. the president giving republicans a tuesday deadline to present a counter proposal to his $2 trillion plan after meeting with several influential lawmakers this week and the clock certainly ticking as biden hopes to strike a deal by memorial day. some more mixed reaction to the first maskless weekend since the
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pandemic began each after the cdc said fully vaccinated people no longer need to wear masks, plenty of americans are still unshore. let's go to my colleague cori coughman and it is important to note, it's nice to see your face. how many folks there are maskless? >> yeah. alex, i have to be honest. it feels weird. it feels like i'm not supposed to be doing this, but it does feel a little bit freeing and the folks that i've talked to out here in central park today feel the same way. it's about 75% of people who are maskless, about 25% of people who still feel like they want to keep it on especially in the bigger groups that we have seen, but it is this sense of relief and elation. the interviews that i got, though, new yorkers all kind of feel the same way, alex, we're not anywhere near the end of
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this and they're not ready to fully go maskless indoors and that's the big thing and listen to what some of them told me. >> as you can see, i have my mask and if i were close to anyone i would have a mask on, but i think it's the responsibility of the person to get vaccinated, and i am trying my utmost to influence anyone i can to get their vaccinations because they can stay safe. i can stay safe regardless because i've had both my vaccinations. >> you know, i think, we just have to take precautions. for me, personally, we've come so far and there are incidences of outbreaks and still people becoming ill. so inside, not quite ready yet. >> and there's a lot of question there about how do you prove someone is fully vaccinated indoors. 35% of the adult population is estimated to be fully vaccinated now and some of those are making
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decisions on their own. we have publix, costco and trader joe's saying they will lift their mask requirements indoors while places like target and starbucks requiring them longer. there are a handful of states that haven't lifted their mask mandate, new york, new jersey, california, even hawaii who have instituted their vaccine passports this week and the faa says despite the guidance, it will require masks for public transit. that means on planes, trains and busses you will still need a mask at least until september, but definitely outdoors, alex, and in some places indoors people are breathing a sigh of relief. but to your point, there are a lot of questions still and we will have an entire half hour and 2:30 p.m. eastern devoted to questions folks have, and thank you for contributing to that.
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joining me is a pediatrician which makes you about the perfect person to talk about this. thank you for joining me. as you look at vaccinated people, the reports are, the cdc approval that they don't transmit the virus and the shot is effective against variants and those findings is what resulted with the cdc amending masks. do you agree with this advice? >> that's exactly right. when you look at the science, we have been so lucky to have vaccines within a year of this virus hitting our shores, to have them be highly effective. their target initially was just to have vaccines that were 50% effective and we got 90%, 95% of efficacy and now we know that people who have been vaccinated can't transmit the virus to others. and so it's really based on that science and i know all of us
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feel funny about that. it feels weird to go out without a mask, right? and so i think everybody's going to kind of use their own sense of safety and security, but this was a science-based decision. >> i have to say, i agreed with the first guest that cori coughman interviewed. you need to get vaccinated and i still have my mask with me, good for you. it's a good call. whatever makes you feel comfortable. can we trust that everyone who says they're vaccinated really is? you're concerned that people are so eager for a pre-pandemic normal that the caution could be sidestepped. >> i am absolutely concerned about that. i am concerned that people who have never really gotten onboard with masks, may also not get onboard with vaccines and may remain at higher risk, and i guess my answer to that is that i'm really hoping, just like the cdc is that this carrot of
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freedom, you can take off your mask once you've been vaccinated will encourage people to get vaccinated, but for those who are worried that it might go in a different direction, i would remind everybody that we're still looking at numbers and we're still following the data. if there is an uptick in cases you may have to consider inis nottives. >> we have now the 15 to 12-year-old age group getting the pfizer vaccine, you're a pediatrician and what is your message to a parent who may be hesitant about vaccinating their kids. >> alex, i am so excited about this and i've been waiting for my day and i'm glancing at a clock, in 15 minutes my 12-year-old son is getting his vaccine. >> that's great. now that we know just how safe we are after these vaccines and you can't transmit. this opens up the whole world and feeling comfortable at
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school. now the kids can eat together and now they have to stay far apart or eat outside, summer camp, sleep away camp and all of these things now become a reality and it's so freeing and so what i would tell parents out there, get your children vaccinated. these vaccines have been in 250 million arms and we have a track record of safety and efficacy. they were well tested in children and it is incredibly freeing. i could not wait. >> i've got to tell you, as parents, we have so many things to worry about with our kids, let's check that one off the list, right? huge relief. okay, talking about colonial pipeline now, it is back up and running following the massive hack. the attack was carried out by a criminal extortion ring understanding how government and industry are to basic assaults on computer networks. when energy secretary jennifer
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granholm testifies about it, and she will testify before your committee next week, what is one of the questions you want her to answer? >> the questions are related to where we go from here, right? we know that all of our infrastructure is crumbling and that, frankly includes cybersecurity and we're building beefy transmission lines we need to have part of that building be building up and beefing up our cybersecurity and this is a really important message. the pipeline tells us we need redundancy. we need resiliency and cybersecurity and frankly, we cannot let this become a pattern and it's tough. we have to be right and ready 100% of the time. >> yeah. we know the president signed that executive order this week to try to beef up cybersecurity, but is it enough? what is it going to take to prevent another major cyber attack?
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>> i think it will take a lot of things. one is making sure that the people who do these terrible things don't get rewarded. that's number one. number two is we need a coordination of all of our agencies. homeland security, department of energy, transportation, we need everybody working together along with private industry, microsoft, for example because we need to be sharing this information in order to really have a blanket of cybersecurity. >> i have to say it was the first thing they heard they paid $5 million, that means nefarious types out there that say i'd like to get $5 million, how do i get that? always good to see you. thank you so much for joining me. >> good to see you. there are two important legal story, first, the matt gaetz saga isn't close to being over. a story that emerged yesterday
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some new developments today as the republican party follows through with its major shake-up. trump loyalist elise stefanik is now the house republican congress chair. she was voted in days after liz cheney was removed from her post following her opposition to donald trump. good saturday to you. how is this all reverberating on the hill. >> hi, alex. it's good to be with you. we are continuing to hear from congresswoman liz cheney speak out against republican colleagues over her ousting of the house leadership position and donald trump's baseless election results. she's using her megaphone the way she can by doing a number of
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media appearances and continuing to push back against her republican colleagues. elise stefanik who has taken that leadership role, she's projecting a message of unity within the republican congress, and they are coming together within their conference and that's not quite what we're seeing. there is certainly a juxtaposition and they're pushing that message of unity. when we heard from congresswoman elise stefanik after that vote, she pushed forward that unified message and as it related to defending donald trump. here's just some of what she said while she further embraced the former president. >> i also want to thank president trump for his support. he is a critical part of our republican team. my district voted for president obama double digits and for president trump by double digits. president trump is the leader i shup ort, and voters support president trump and they we are
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unified in working with president trump. my job representing our republican member, the vast majority and we will look forward to working with president trump. >> alex, if that montage is any indication, the republican conference and the house is saying they are unified by making donald trump continue to be the loudest voice in the conference and leading them forward. keep in mind the house republican conference was re-elected in 2020 while donald trump wasn't. they are now making that bet, however, that looking ahead to next year to the 2022 mid-terms in the hopes of maintaining the house, they're staying in lockstep with the former president. >> we will see. amanda golden, thank you for that. >> a new plea deal by a former associate of matt gaetz can put the congressman in increased legal jeopardy. joel greenberg is agreeing to plead guilty to 23 charges, including identity theft and sex trafficking of a minor.
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he has not been charged with a crime. joining me now is joyce vance, msnbc contributor and former u.s. attorney and professor at the alabama school of law. thank you for joining me. from what we know about this case how do we look at the plea deal with respect to matt gaetz? >> first off, alex, it's important to say that this plea deal which is in writing won't actually go into effect until a federal judge accepts it in a courtroom on monday, and that means that joel greenberg will have to walk through the plan, acknowledge that he's pleading guilty because he is guilty. that might seem like a minor point, but i've seen some plea deals get off the rails at that point in time. >> joyce, do they have to go through all 33 or will they only go through the six that he's agreed to plead guilty to? >> only through the six that he's pleading guilty to, but it's lengthy and detailed.
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but prosecutors seem confident that he'll get there and this agreement contemplates that greenberg will cooperate in other investigations, what they are isn't specified in order to receive a lower sentence than he would otherwise be accountable for. >> okay. so what happens next? what kind of a time line do you foresee if they decide to charge matt gaetz? i mean, clearly, they have to dot every "i" and cross every "t," but how long might this take? >> it's difficult to predict? greenberg is not the best witness that prosecutors could hope for in a case like a, it is looking like it may have public corruption overtones against gaetz and they'll have to corroborate greenberg every step of the way. there are reports that they're speaking to other people that are around them that i wouldn't be certain that prosecutors are
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ready to indict or be willing to put a time line on it. they could be very close, and this could be the last step that they needed to have in place or they could still have a fair bit of work to do. >> so when you cut a deal with somebody, do you think investigators did that with greenberg who certainly appears to be a more egregious violator in order to catch matt gaetz who is a higher profile figure? >> it's hard to know who approached who here. it's hard to know that prosecutors had the goal all along and one thing that we do know is that this deal has been months in the making and so it's also possible that greenberg's lawyers went to prosecutors and did what's called making a proffer, and here's the kind of evidence that he could give you. here's the kind of insight he could give you into what you might want to look at in cases involving other people. it can work both ways. >> i want to get to another
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legal matter that's making headlines right now, a new report in politico, with a possible indictment of donald trump by the d.a. while he is at mar-a-lago. two high-ranking -- why would they feel the need to prepare? >> typically, there's an interstate compact that lets transport a person when they've been indicted in another. >> is that called extradition? is that what that is? extradition is one way of characterizing it, sure. that also applies in the international sense, but it can apply among states inside of the country, as well. this is not uncommon, right? that you indict someone, and in this case is a new york indictment with a person indicted in florida and there is a legal mechanism that involves
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a governor's warrant and there's a technical sign-off and people don't directly get involved in these matters, but in this days, we know that the former president in so many things is not a respecter of the rule of law, and there's some possibility he might through to throw a wrench into the process, given how this process works, probably the best that they could hope for here would be some form of a delay. for one thing, it would require the former president to stay inside of florida for as long as he was at risk and that would restrict his plans in a significant way. >> interesting. thank you, joyce vance, for getting directly involved in our show and i appreciate it as always. >> you might remember it was a capitol hill riot and the president is now ready to kickstart immediate rallies and whether that could be a dangerous proposition next.
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new today, the colonial pipeline is up and running again after a ransomware attack shut it down for several day, but stations from texas to new jersey are still struggling to keep gas as panicked americans are filling up. let's go to nbc's blayne alexander for more on this. welcome to you. how serious is the gas shortage? what's been the reaction to drivers there in atlanta? >> reporter: well, alex, the answer that we're getting from experts is that we are now in recovery mode. it is better than what we saw earlier this week and it will take a week, possibly another two weeks before drivers can be confident before they will go to the pump and get gas. this is the scene at one gas station in metro, atlanta. it is certainly much more crowded now than it was earlier today, but this is one of the lucky stations here in atlanta. this is one of the stations that
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actually has gas, but in the state of georgia, about 45% of stations are completely out of gas and when you move further up north to d.c., that number jumps up about 80% or so, and experts do have advice for you if you're ready to go out this weekend, stop panicking. all week long, we have seen the scramble. >> i have been here now for an hour and 15 minutes and this is my fifth gas station. >> it's a panic. everyone's panicking just like the toilet paper supply. across the southeast and the east coast, gas prices are going up and pumps are going dry. the shortage led five school systems to switch to remote learning. now the bulk of the pain has moved up north to d.c. where friday outages were still at a whopping 81%. >> i don't know how i'll make it home. >> all areas along the colonial pipeline, would nation's largest
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fuel supplier shut down after a ransomware hack. it is back online and the $5 million paid. >> it will take one or two weeks to get to down enough where motorists no longer have to think about where to fill up. >> the national average topping $3 per gallon for the first time since 2014, but are the issues driven by the pipeline or panic. consider miami, where at one point more than 40% of stations were out of gas, despite the fact that south florida is not even served by the pipeline. >> so essentially, it came down to people panic buying. that was what was causing a majority of the problem, and not the pipeline itself. >> that appears to be the case. definitely, the concern played a big role. >> so, alex, certainly something that a lot of people are considering and the other thing is the timing in which this happened and where americans
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were getting out and about much more often and consider if this had happened about a year ago. nobody was driving anywhere, but the expert that i spoke to said that, of course, this was happening at the time where more people are traveling and you're seeing an increased demand for gas. even after we recovered, as we are getting into the summer travel months we're seeing demand increase and we're seeing more concerned about what gas will look like in the months to come. no shortages, but certainly the demand will be higher. okay. blayne, thank you for keeping an eye on tall of that for us. donald trump was plotting a return to the public spotlight in a familiar fashion. ette kuo the new york post" reports, the former president will be re-starting his campaign next month as he teeses a possibility for another run of the white house in 2024. joining me now, kurt bardella l.a. times and former contributor for house oversight
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committee and angela rye, host of the podcast on one with angela rye, good to see you both. guys, thank you so much for joining me. kurt, can i just ask you, rallies for what, exactly? >> i guess for attention. this is someone who i know for a fact has been spending his time at mar-a-lago texting anyone he could possibly thinking to see if they will come out there to play golf with him. this guy is so bored and starved for attention that he'll do his dog and pony read show because he's a narcissist and didn't know what to do without the spotlight and without seeing himself on cable news on the loop. it's really embarrassing. this is a former president of the united states, and he is just so missing being the center and focus of everything, he's now going to go out there and hit the rewind button and make it like it's 2016 again and it's
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incumbent upon all of us not to far for it. this guy doesn't deserve oxygen and doesn't deserve attention and public conversation of any kind that's useful, interesting and formative and i for one, will change the channel if i see him pop up. >> i know others who will do that for sure. trump has spent the last four months banned from social media and he has a new blog that hasn't gotten much traction and nothing compared to his facebook or twitter. do you think he's feeling the effects of not having his voice heard and amplified every day and so this is his reaction to it, to kurt's point? >> i think the bigger issue to me is not whether or not donald trump's feelings are hurt because he's not getting enough attention. it really is on how the party, and i'm talking about the gop which i'm now going to call the pond, which is the party of white nationalism, whether or not they will continue to give donald trump's rhetoric oxygen,
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whether or not they continue to double down on the very toxic rhetoric, the incendiary remarks both on his twitter feed, at his campaign rally, you know -- rallies that he holds -- has held all over the country and the ones that it appears that he's getting ready to start again. the bigger issue is holding donald trump accountable for the radicalization of the pond, and whether or not they are going to take responsibility for that, right? we know january 6th was just a few moments ago, and it hasn't been that long and they're not trying to hold him accountable for that, for all of the things he said before he was ever elected, for all of the things he said on the campaign trail and before that. it is time for the republican party, the pond, to take full responsibility for what they have allowed to occur. i will never forget when senator harry reid said that donald
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trump was the republican party's frankenstein. it is time to disable the monster. >> interesting. absolutely. i want to take a look at what the last campaign-style rally had, kurt. it was january 6th, which of course, hours after he spoke to angela's point, we have his supporters who stormed the capitol, some of them. subsequently leading to five deaths. when you think about donald trump rallies, what do you envision as being potentially possible? >> i see it as nothing more than a gathering of domestic terrorists intent on imposing their will through means of violence of intimidation and fear with those who don't align with their agenda. that is what we saw on january 6th and we cannot allow that, and there is a photo of him barricading it and he's out there announcing, it was just
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like a tour. a capitol tour. it was, like, give me a freakin' break here, folks. if we allow the events of january 6th to be so casually re-written it will invite more violent types of rallies and events and gatherings that will escalate. it sends the message to these people that it's okay to do it. the republican party and the way that they're acting and the way that they dispensed liz cheney for telling the truth about january 6th and what they're telling their support sers do it again, do it bigger and make it more violent because they'll run cover for them and the republican party is the getaway driver for these domestic terrorists. >> this week we had multiple republicans. they were trying to re-write history on what happened on january 6th. let's remind viewers. take a look, everyone. >> the truth is being censored and covered up. as a result, the doj is harassing peaceful patriots across the country.
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>> bring mike pence! >> if you didn't know the tv footage was a footage from january the 6th, you would think it was a normal tourist visit. [ screaming ] >> many democrats have put forth a narrative that has been circulating around since january 6th and it's never been corrected. for example, the narrative that president trump incited riots on january 6th. >> we will walk down to the capitol and if you don't fight like hell you're not going have a country anymore. >> we played there which kurt was referencing there, you would think it was a normal tourist visit. i mean, do you think, angela, that these folks honestly believe what they're saying or is this all just a political move to keep trump supporters happy in their districts? >> you know, that's an excellent
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question, alex, and i think that what it requires of the republican party is to remember what happened before january 6th. i was on with joy yesterday and i said the same thing. i actually agree with kevin mccarthy when he says we have to look beyond and before the incident on january 6th. you would think right now, given the conversation around liz chain they she should be up for a nobel peace prize, but her voting record is 93% in support of policies touted by donald j. trump, so again, until the pond of donald j. trump reverses course we will continue down the same treacherous path that this country has been on since 1619 and that is the re-writing of history that is dangerous and treacherous and awful and violent for so many of this country's citizens, and it didn't start with donald trump. we are errant in that belief, if we really want to take that position, it got worse with
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donald trump, and it did not begin with donald trump. >> you are 100% on that. kurt bardella and angela rye, i'll see you both again. as if there's not enough political controversy, another one today, where the key figures are under a cloud of suspicion. on "politics nation," it is at 5:00 eastern here on msnbc. ♪ it's grilled cheese time. ♪ ♪ yeah, it's time for grilled cheese. ♪ ♪ after we make grilled cheese, ♪ ♪ then we're eating grilled cheese. ♪ ♪ because it's time. ♪ ♪ yeah. ♪ ♪ time for grilled cheese. ♪ did you know that your toughest cleaning problems can be caused by hard water metals? ♪ yeah. ♪ they lock in residues like a glue, on your hard surfaces and fabrics. try 9 elements. its vinegar powered deep clean dissolves hard water buildup and releases trapped residues
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it is off to the races for medina spirit. this year's kentucky derby winner is set to be in the preakness stakes after the horse failed a drug test. medina's spirit was cleared on friday to run in the second leg of the triple crown. it happens in just a few hours from now and msnbc's steve
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kornacki is in baltimore to break it all down for us. steve, big welcome to you. i know you're there among all the fans so it's a little loud, but before we get to your odds and the predictions explain how the derby winner was cleared to run in the second leg of the triple crown. what did medina spirit need to pass? >> yes. so there were some preliminary tests this week that the racing officials in maryland for the preakness insisted on and insisted that medina's spirit be able to clear those tests before being allowed to participate, basically to make sure that there wasn't even a trace of that beta methazone, the drug that was in the horse's system after the kentucky derby to make sure there wasn't even a trace of it in the system ahead of this race. yesterday afternoon, a couple of rounds of testing and medina spirit, cleared to run and still the official derby winner, but it is possible that when all of
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the dust settles here in baltimore, it's possible medina spirit can win this race today and we'll find out tomorrow or next week or a few weeks from now that that kentucky derby victory is officially taken down for medina spirit. >> what is your bet today considering that you had it on kentucky derby day, is there another horse that you think you're going to pick? >> i'll tell you what, a little bit of a corporate plug here right before the race on nbc we will all make our picks and i will officially put mine out then. the smart move usually when i make a pick is to bet on somebody else, but one thing that is interesting, right now these are the current odds at pimlico and across the nation, they're putting bets now and we have a surprise, the expectation is that medina spirit, you see right here, that medina spirit would be the expectation, but take a look at these odds. medina spirit right now is not the favorite and neither is concert tour which is the other
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horse trained by bob baffert. the expectation is these two horses, these two bob baffert-trained horses would be the first and second choice of the public, but the first choice of the public right now is midnight bourbon. midnight bourbon also ran in the kentucky derby. there is a lot of hype around midnight bourbon and i wonder if all of the negative publicity and the controversy is keeping some folks away from the baffert horses right now, because if you like medina spirit or the other bob baffert horse rid now you're getting more value than expected because the public money is on someone else. >> you were influenced by bob baffert's success record and that was why you picked medina spirit. you are right there by the betting windows and are people coming around and looking at what you have, let's see what steve kornacki has and we'll go with that. that's hilarious, who knew? steve kornacki!
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>> it's funny, if they come up and ask me, the first thing i say who do you like? they persuade me as much as i persuade them. the thing i liked about medina spirit in the derby was the idea that the horse could get to the front of the race early, that had just been a style that had been working well in the kentucky derby recently and that's the question today. can medina spirit, and i keep saying concert tour and these two horses like lie to be at the front when this race begins. how does that dynamic shape up? does medina spirit end up having to chase down concert tour and does medina spirit have the capability of doing that? he went wire to wire. is he going to be forced into a different kind of race today? >> you have four hours to firm up your predictions and we'll tune in at 5:00 and see exactly what you say, steve kornacki. good to see you. steve's coverage will begin at 5:00 p.m. eastern on nbc. that is the preakness. stunning views amid a return
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starting to come back. >> it feels amazing to finally travel again. >> we both love mountains and wine. >> vaccinated americans or those with a negative pcr test are now free to rome the ancient acropolis. >> most of europe is still off-limits to americans and here in greece, tourism is a quarter of gdp. they can't afford to wait any longer. >> why now? >> we feel that we are ready. athens is ready, greece is ready. >> 13% of greeks are fully vaccinated so hundreds of greek islands are racing to vaccinate every adult by june. santorini is perhaps the most beautiful of all the greek islands, stunning views like these drew millions of visitors each year before the pandemic. many can't wait to have them back. this hotel has been struggling. 60% of guests are from the u.s. >> the whole santorini was built on tourism. it was quite tough.
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>> the rest of europe won't be far behind. italy, france, and spain all planning to join greece, welcoming back americans for the lucrative summer season. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: and alex, we should say greece is not the only country that's open to americans right now. iceland will let you in if you're vaccinated as will croatia. the european union is working on a digital green certificate to allow travellers to show their vaccine status, but that's not ready yet. so right now that paper card from the cdc is enough. >> completely jealous of your assignment, sara harmon, we appreciate it. mtj versus aoc, is marjorie taylor-greene's fixation on the democrat just confrontation politics or is it something more disturbing? hooh
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