i'm ali velshi. we begin with the violence in the middle east witnessing some of the worst fighting in years in the israeli palestinian conflict. the defense forces say it conducted an air strike on the residents of the hamas leader in gaza. in addition to strikes in hamas tunnel strikes. they report 33 people were killed and multiple buildings destroyed in new air strikes today and we're learning more about that israeli air strike you're looking at yesterday on a gaza high rise, which housed international media outlets including the associated press as well as apartments. the president and ceo of the associated press says he was quote shocked and horrified by the strike which he says is quote an incredibly disturbing develop the. israel is defending the attack saying the building housed hamas military assets and they were using the offices as quote human shields.

president biden spoke with netanyahu and the palestinian leader and called for a seize fire. we'll have the latest developments on this tense and deadly situation throughout the hour. meanwhile a major breakthrough in the form of a bipartisan agreement to investigate the january 6th insurrection to the capitol. the idea is to create an independent commission to investigate the attack and how it was handled and it would be styled after the 9/11 commission and the facts and circumstances on the attack to the capitol and influencing factors. the commission would have subpoena power and be required to issue a final report by the end of the year with findings on the facts and causes of the riot as well as recommendations to prevent future attacks on the country's democratic institutions. the legislation that formed the commission expected to be considered in the house this week was put forth on friday by house homeland committee chair

benny thompson standing by who will be a guest momentarily and john catco but they are refacing resistance from the republican party dedicated to pushing dangerous lies about the election and about the insurrection that was carried out in an attempt to reverse it. house republicans this week have tried to convince the american people what you're seeing on your screen right now did not happen and that january 6th was just like a peaceful tourist trip. >> it was trump supporters who lost their lives that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. >> my constituents demand answers but the truth is being censored and covered up. as a result the doj is arhassing peaceful patriots. >> so was january 6th an insurrection or a mob of misfits? >> there was no insurrection and to call it an insurrection in my opinion is a bold faced lie.

you know, if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. >> would you? would you think that was a normal tourists visit, people slamming through and climbing through doors and windows. david is seeking support for a resolution to sensor several republicans including clyde and gossar, two of the congressman you just saw for those ridiculous remarks that are dangerous and a false rewrite of the dangerous history we witnessed. this is not only up against the out right january 6th deniers, it's actually up against a house minority leader increasingly bent on enabling those deniers. kevin mccarthy just over saw the ouster of liz cheney, a conservative from party leadership for the great crime of telling the truth about the election and no sooner had the bipartisan deal to investigate

the capitol riot been announced than mccarthy voicing his concerns with the plan. he announced he hadn't signed off on it and he has quote concerns that the commission investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol will only investigate that attack. mccarthy wants the commission to investigate antifa and black lives matter and groups no way related to the events of january 6th because that all plays into another gop lie and rewrites the truth and as promised, joining me now, the chairman of the house homeland committee. benny thompson. i don't know where to start with this but you're up against far greater headwinds than the people that decided there would be a 9/11 commission because there were not members of the house that disagreed 9/11 happened and airplanes flew into

buildings and killed our mer cans. there was no disagreement about those facts. today there is no disagreement between the house of representatives. >> there is no question about it. let me tell you, we've been working since january 6th to get to this point. it been difficult. we haven't had the best cooperation trying to get here but we're here so what we're seeing on the screen right now is actually what happened. other people were trying to say otherwise. they will have their opportunity to come before this commission and try to make their case, but we think clearly we have to move forward. what you seen right now, the only other time we've had anything close to this at the nation's capitol was 1814 when it was set on fire. so this insurrection that i call it we have to look at it, and so

we put this comission bill forward. we look to vote on it this week, and it's been difficult. but to my ranking member, we worked it out. >> how did that go? tell me about the representative. he's probably set to get trouble given the fact he worked it out with you. >> it been back and forth. we negotiated from -- to where we are now. we want to remember what we did in 9/11, so we set the composition, equal number of democrats and republicans, the subpoena powers there, the leadership picks the vice chair and the chair and so we want certain expertise on the committee but we went back and forth up until thursday we was

still exchanging letters getting it right and i'm happy that we're here, but, you know, this speaks to who we are. our capitol police did a wonderful job but they were under attack and they were trying to protect the citadel of democracy in this trick and they were over run and we have to protech those men and women who did that and incidentally, this was national police week. a lot of those individuals denying what was going on, they were having events saying how we support the police so we're saying if you support the capitol police in doing their job, you support this commission getting to the facts. >> are you confident that this will pass the house and this commission will be established? >> well, we'll get through the house. we'll take it up this week. i hope the senate follows, you

know, right away and we can get this sunset the commission for december 31. they have a lot of work to do. some of the committee and evidence that the normal commission we would have to get we already have. we have the honorary report and house administration report. we have the government reform and oversight committees report. so we have a number of documents already in hand. we have information from the department of defense. so what we need is a clear direction for this commission to go forward and come back to us at the end of it and say congress, this is what you need to do to protect the citadel of democracy so this will never happen again and i look forward to the report when the 9/11 commission report came back, all the ten recommendations we

instituted them and to the credit of those individuals who served on that commission, they did a wonderful job and we have, for the most part, protected this country from foreign invasion, it's now we have to protect ourselves from domestic invaders like we had on january 6th. >> if minority leader kevin mccarthy insists that you include black lives matter and antifa as subjects of investigation, will you? >> no, not in this commission bill. we're talking strictly about the event of january 6th. if there are individuals that want to set up another commission, then that's perfectly within their right as members of congress but what we have here today, we're looking solely what happened on january 6th. ali. to see what occurred, to see the men and women who are still

under doctor's care from what happened. we can't have that. we still have a number of capitol policemen out on workers comp situation. so we have to do better. we are a better country than this and this commission is one of those ways to show how we can improve who we are as america . it's a great democracy but sometimes fragile. discommission we believe would get us back to where we need to be as americans. >> congressman, good to see you again. thank you for joining us this morning. chairman of the house chairman committee. joining me politzer prize reporter for "the new york times" katy benner, her latest piece details merrick garland's recent comments to congress the biggest domestic terrorist

threat comes from white supremacist. good to see you. we have known this is coming and heard it from the fbi director and dhs but this has come out in the form of an alert, a status update to say grievance based violence is really the number one terrorist threat americans face. >> absolutely. what we're seeing is we're seeing the entire intelligence community come together over the fact that indeed grievance based domestic extremism is our number one threat particularly white supremacist violence. the reason to have a unified few is take the conversation out of the politics and put it squarely back into the intelligence community's concerns so it can be dealt with as politicians as you just discussed are debating whether or not anything bad happened on january 6th, debating what to do about it. we have the intelligence

community say thing is what our data shows and intelligence shows that includes boots on the ground, intelligence resources inside of some of these communities. they are telling us this is a huge, huge problem and we need to act accordingly. we'll see a splinter be between the intelligence community and dhs do on one hand versus what we see a politician say. >> right. because they're not -- as you said, this is not political or about why or how or who won the election. this is about data the department of justice and the fbi collect to say your greatest risk of being a victim of terrorist violence in the united states comes from this grouping of things and we need to figure out ways to counter that outside of politics. >> correct. and you saw the attorney general be asked why are you prioritizing what happened on january 6th above the riots over the summer, the threat, the perceived threat of antifa and

why is january 6th a big deal to you? you see garland say because it was the biggest threat to democracy i've seen in my entire career in law enfocement as a judge. he said all crimes are taken care of, dealt with and investigated by the department of justice. just because we prioritize this doesn't mean we won't invest gate other crimes, especially if committed by other domestic extremist groups on the right or left. >> katy, good to see you. thank you for joining us. justice department reporter for "the new york times." please follow her because she has a lot of news that comes out on a daily basis. we have much more on "velshi" later. new air strikes on sunday. we'll bring you the latest from the region and senate democrats are sweeping the voting bill introduced.

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controversial congress come marjorie taylor greene may have violated property tax laws resulting in a big tax break for the georgia homeowner. according to an investigation conducted, greene and her husband listed two different homes as their primary residence. the investigation pulled records showing the greenes are getting tax breaks on two different homes in two different counties. under georgia law residents cannot file multiple homestead exceptions because they can get a sizable tax break. in all 50 states it is illegal for a personal or married couple

to claim more than one residency based exception. the fine is $12,000. congressman greene downplayed it saying it's a paperwork issue being taken care of. a watchdog group says this is more than a paper work issue. this is fraud. israel says it bombed the home of one of gaza's top leaders but at the fate of civilians. we'll give a live report from richard engel in tel aviv next. richard engel in tell aviv next [truck horn blares] (vo) the subaru forester. dog tested. dog approved. [sizzling]

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we're following the development in the middle east. the deadliest single attack since fighting broke out against forces and israel. the gaza health ministry saying at least 33 palestinians were killed during air strikes bringing the overall palestinian death toll to 188 including 55 children. the israeli death toll rose to

ten. in a targeted attack, this video provided by the israeli defense forces shows jets striking the residence and headquarters of a hamas leader in the gaza strip. you can see the strike hit that building in an area densely packed with other homes and buildings. chief foreign correspondent richard engel is in tel aviv. looks quieter than when you and i spoke yesterday and the things we saw you doing last night. what's the latest developments? >> reporter: well, it is quieter here in tel aviv but not the case in some israeli cities further south from here. you just showed an israeli video of the strike on the house of a hamas leader. the hamas leader was not at home at the tile. most of the hamas leaders left. there were significant casualties in that attack but there were other strikes in gaza city. one strike in particular on

three apartment buildings in gaza city. gaza city is one of the most densely packed cities in the world. these attacks took place right after 1:00, around 1:30 in the morning local time and according to medical officials in gaza, 33 people were killed just in these three apartment buildings that were struck. they collapsed. and then in the morning so the strike took place around 1:30, i believe it was 1:33 and then they had to wait until the fighting died down, until the air strikes stopped and they were able to bring in vehicles and start a rescue effort in the daylight hours. so from 1:30 in the morning until sunrise, people were trapped inside this building. some dead, some injured and throughout the day they have been bringing out the bodies and survivors and they've pulled out around 50 people so far who survived and they believe there are others still inside the buildings. so there is quite a bit of --

quite a number of casualties in gaza city and because of that, hamas' military wing said it would unleash a new barrage of rockets at southern israel. it may be quiet here, but it does not seem like it will stay quiet for very long, particularly in the south. >> it's worth looking at a map you're not that far from gaza. i want you to pull the curtain back for us a little bit. reporting on israel and the west bank and palestinian authority and hamas, you have to take everything authorities tell you with a grain of salt because there is a lot of propaganda that comes out and you can't say what was going on in the building that housed the air -- associated press. the important thing is news media be able to bear witness to what is going on to hold authority on all sides to account. tell me about that.

how easy is it to report and confirm what's actually going on? yesterday you showed us stuff that was happening from your balcony. you showed rockets and the israeli iron dome system intercepting the rockets and explosions. that you can see with your eyes. how hard or easy is it to figure out the rest of the truth? >> you have to be very careful in this conflict in particular because the media are part of it. imagery is part of the conflict. this current round of fighting is imagery with an act but the imagery that inflamed it. it was when after weeks of unrest because of homes that were being palestinians being threatened and evicted from, there was an incident at a mosque in erusalem and security forces went in to disburse crowds from the mosque and used a lot of force and those images

were broadcast around the world and hamas saw this and decided to respond and started launching rockets in the name of defending jerusalem. so the imagery particularly these days when imagery can immediately go to everyone's cell phone is a part of this and everyone, both parties here want to manipulate the imagery and message. so you do your best to confirm it and do your best to try to confirm it with first hand sources. what i was just talking to you about the different locations in gaza and get through in this case and trust personally i think are trying to lead down a dark path from political manipulation. >> thank you for your excellent reporting. please stay safe. richard engel correspondent from tel aviv. the deadly overnight escalation followed a day

seemingly crossed a line when it levels a gaza high rise that housed many international media outlets. israel defending actions saying the building also housed hamas military and intelligence assets as richard was explaining to us. joining me now is joel simon. good morning, thank you for being with us. obviously, it is unjust for us to think that somehow the work spaces and lives of journalists are any more important than the work spaces and lives of citizens but there is something potentially sinister about attacks that hamper journalists ability as richard and i were just discussing to bear witness to what is actually happening and hold power to account. >> yeah, sinister but also a legal question journalists have -- they are protected under international law. they have the right to report on news for the events and so any action or act taken by either

side of the conflict but in this context, we're talking about the idf that would undermine or threaten that ability is potentially violation of international humanitarian law. >> what can be done about it? this is not actually the easiest part of the world in which to report because we depend on information that comes from hamas, the palestinian authority, the israeli government, the israel lee defense forces. in fact, the other day the idf gave international reporters bad information. don't know whether it was intentionally dishonest or wrong but implied they were invading gaza. that turned out not to be true. how do we conduct ourselves when it is our job to bear witness. we're there so our viewers and listeners understand the context of what is going on. >> well, i mean, i think richard laid it out. it's incredibly difficult and dangerous to report but journalists have a duty and obligation to do that work under

very difficult circumstances and to convey that information to the world but i just want to mention one thing. the israeli authorities asserted this building was somehow infiltrated by operatives from hamas. they provided absolutely no evidence of that and have a terrible credibility problem as indicated there is a very credible allegation that the idf misled international journalists about impending land invasion to gain tactical advantage over hamas. they denied that but many journalists believe that occurred. that creates a huge credibility problem and when the idf asserts hamas operatives were present in this building, i'm skeptical. the a.p. said they saw no evidence of this. they're obviously monitoring the situation very carefully. so i think -- i think the israeli government, the idf needs to come clean, was there a

military basis for this attack? if not, then you're left with the conclusion that it's part of a concerted effort to inhibit coverage and undermine the ability of journalists to report about what is happening in gaza right now and that's information we need. >> this is a problem because joel, you and i are old enough to remember when having a flak jacket that says press or identification as the media kept you safe. when partisans to a conflict imply that journalists are participating or in someway not objectively reporting facts on the ground, we're not all objective about everything but when reporting facts on the ground like richard is or a.p. reporters were doing, that puts those journalists in danger and what it does is it has a chilling effect on us, right? it makes our bosses think maybe we don't go there. maybe we pull people out and makes independent journalists

think i'm not safe if i go there. >> yeah, i mean, i think richard said it exactly right. but this is not new. particularly the context of the israeli palestinian conflict is about images. it's always been about the way events were portrayed. obviously, depictions and images of the destruction caused by the israeli attacks in gaza undermine the israeli cause while those images can create sympathy for -- and can be used by hamas. so journalists are in the middle of this saying no, they're being manipulated but have an obligation to do their very best to report the information as accurately and as fairly as possible and the a.p. is a media organization which we all know takes this obligation very, very seriously, and that's why the

destruction of their facility that housed the a.p. and al jazera undermines our ability to understand and contention lize what is happening now. >> joel simon is the executive director of the committee to protect journalists. one thing i think we can all agree on is let's protect the infrastructure that's already in place and maybe avoid a cyber attack that leads to nationwide gas shortages. i'll have more on that next. e m. . proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage and clear skin in many adults. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma,

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pipelines. biden signed a bill to reduce the vulnerabilities to cyber attacks. >> calls for federal agenies to work closely and share information and strengthen cybersecurity and deploy technology and we're in a competition with china and the rest of the world to win the 21st century economically and we're not going to win it competing with an infrastructure that is out of the 20th century. >> that executive order was followed on friday by the introduction of bipartisan legislation focused on protecting critical infrastructure from the type of cyber attack that colonial pipeline. congressman, good to see you. i think it's hard on days like this to get republicans and democrats to agree it's sunday. so the idea that there is

bipartisan legislation on this i think is something to be embraced. talk to me a little about what this is going to do because i think americans would like their existing infrastructure kept secure. >> you're right. i'm so excited this is a bipartisan bill chairwoman from new york put this in. we're working together and hope to have it pass as soon as possible. it creates a grant program for state and local governments to beef up their cybersecurity. a lot of these local governments whether it's a village, a town, even a school district, they can't afford to have a chief technology officer. they can't afford to put a lot of money into it so they don't do it. so with this program, if they come up with a plan, we will help fund that plan. it half a billion dollars to start we probably need more money than that but the fact it bipartisan, we're working together to get it done. hopefully it will get done quickly. >> let's broaden that out now because if you realize this is a

problem, you realize that infrastructure generally is a problem in america. that actually, that part of the equation is bipartisan. where it starts to break down is how much of what joe biden is suggesting is infrastructure, some republicans want to think of narrowly and some expansive will you and how you pay for it. given you're the co-sponsor of a bill that deals with infrastructure, how do you translate that into something that gets done for americans on the broader infrastructure issue? >> in addition to being one of the lead co-sponsors in this bill, i'm not problem solvers caucus which is a bipartisan group of republican and democratic members in the house and i'm on the working group for the infrastructure bill in that problem solvers so democrats and republicans, we have come up with some points that we'd like to see hit in the infrastructure

bill and sent it to the white house two weeks ago, we're waiting for their response. we both agree, both republicans and democrats agree that an infrastructure bill needs to happen when the disagreement is how to pay for it, how expansive it would be, the problem solvers came up with a couple ideas we think we can work together on. we sent it to the white house and are waiting for a response. >> how big is a problem, i talked to a lot of problem solvers from both parties and i think it's a great idea. how big of a problem is the end fighting in the republican party in terms of moving forward on joint stuff? the folks who are sort of not acknowledging january 6 th. how are you managing that in the republican conference? >> right now, we're just focused on moving ahead. a lot of my colleagues, both republicans and democrats just want to get things done. a lot of the rank and file members just talking about what is next? what can we get done? everyone is looking to produce

something from the district to bring hope and make sure something gets done. nobody sends this down to washington just to sit there and fight. they want to see results. that's what most remembers in the -- members want to do now. >> how do you respond to the fact that somebody must come up, people must come up to you and say what about your colleagues saying january 6th didn't happen, like a tourist visit. how do you deal with that? >> you know, when that -- nobody is actually come up to me and say i was there on january 6th. i know it happened. i know how quickly things escalated. this week we'll be voting on a bill. i'm still awaiting for a briefing document for my staff on the january 6th commission bill so we'll vote on that hopefully to address actually what happened that day and what has happened since with other attacks on the capitol. from what i've been told, it's similar to the 9/11 commission bill evenly split.

that commission worked out well. so i'm excited to see what this bill says and possibly vote on it this week. >> so you're likely to support the idea of a january 6th commission? >> i mean, i've already co-sponsored the rodney davis bill as well as i was a lead sponsor in another commission bill with congressman reid and a couple other members that focused on all domestic terrorism so i'd like to see specifically i haven't read this bill yet specifically to see what it says but i have been supportive of the commission to look into what happened on january 6 th as well as what happened in all domestic terrorism. >> good to see you. thank you for joining us. i'd love if you keep us informed because we don't hear a lot about that in america. he's a republican congressman from new york. we'll have more on the aftermath of the cologne yil pipeline attack.

we'll discuss the cyberinfrastr. i'm fascinated by this topic and it might as i was discussing with the congressman be one thing there is bipartisan support for. >> you would hope so. that's what i'll talk to former secretary jay johnson about. what the united states and biden administration can do to bring us up to speed and bring american law up to speed to hold the folks accountable and also, ali, we'll talk to dr. anthony fauci about the new mask mandates, the surprise new mask mandates and what the questions that the people have, hopefully he'll be able to answer to clear up some of the confusion that's out there. we got a lot going on on the sunday show. also, we'll kick off the show talking about what is happening in israel and gaza. >> yeah, there is a lot of news today. i definitely have encountered a lot of people with confusion over the mask mandate so i'm looking forward to that conversation with dr. fauci.

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. president biden spent the last week selling his agenda to ware rerepublicans meeting with a group of senators in the oval office a day after meeting with congressional leaders including mitch mitch mcconnell and mccarthy for the first time as president. >> we feel committed to the bipartisan shift that we think this infrastructure package can carry forward, and again, i'm grateful to the president and his staff for the give and take

that we shared in the oval office. >> i felt our meeting was very strong when we talked about infrastructure. i think there is a place we can find bipartisanship. >> biden may want republicans to support his proposals but needs democrats on board, as well and my next guest may be crucial to that part of the effort. bernie sanders from vermont. thank you for being with us. this is an interesting conundrum. the president can possibly pass much of his agenda just with democratic support. even that will take something of an effort but he seems to really want to have bipartisan support. there are republicans out there in the world who support what this administration is trying to do but it's a much harder lift in congress. he's trying to reach out. you heard your colleague talking about being encouraged by the possibility of compromise with the president. how does all that make you feel? >> well, number one, republicans at the grass roots level,

especially working class republicans do understand that we need to create millions of good paying jobs, rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges and tunnels and our water systems. many of them understand that we can also create millions more jobs by addressing the threat of climate change they understand when they go to work, they need quality child care with their kids, that their kids should be able to go to college no matter what their incomes are and that is what grass roots republicans understand. unfortunately, it appears that understanding hasn't quite hit republican members of the house and the senate. so i think the president is doing the right thing by reaching out whether or not we will be able to reach an agreement with republicans remains to be seen. as you know what republicans are assistant upon working families

in the middle class in terms of higher gasoline taxes, et cetera. what the president said quite appropriately at a time of massive income wealth of inequality, the middle class are struggling and the rich are getting richer, the revenue should be coming from the people on top, not the middle class. >> this is a question i've been wanting to ask you for a few days. a member of republican senators said they are discontinuing the $300 a week supplement to unemployment insurance because they say it's a disincentive to work and businesses say they are having trouble hiring people and take out the $300 a week, more people will, i suppose to be, get off their butt and work. we go after the people that are unemployed at the moment, that's where we think the godgolden pof

money is. >> ali, as you may have seen, in those instances in pennsylvania elsewhere where employers raised wages, you know what? they're no longer having a labor shortage. the problem is not a labor shortage, the problem is that all over this country, workers are being asked to work for starvation wages. women often do not have the child care they need. people are still worried october being exposed to covid, but what we've got to do is say to workers, you want to get a job, that's fine. we'll pay you a living wage and when we do that, guess what? there is no labor shortage. what the republicans are saying or trying to do away with this supplement on top of unemployment is we'll starve you back to work whether you like it or not, you're going to be forced to go back to work. my view is pay people a living wage they will work. >> i want to talk to you more about democracy at large. we'll take a quick break and i'll come back. senator sanders will come back.

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the american people are suffering under the far left, radical socialist policies of president joe biden and speaker nancy pelosi. >> well, look, unfortunately, that is the driving force in today's democratic party. it's the angry socialist left. >> my democratic friends can remember they have just a 50-50 senate, and a closely divided

house, not exactly a sweeping mandate for a socialist agenda. >> the socialists are coming for you. back with me, vermont senator bernie sanders. you call yourself a democratic socialist. you and i agree on things like universal health care. i've always made the argument that most of the free world uses universal health care in some fashion. it's not actually socialist. if you are a capitalist, it's just a better system. but are you concerned by this socialist, socialist, socialist attack on the biden agenda? joe biden is not much of a socialist. >> no, he is not. and the proposals that biden is bringing forth or that i'm bringing forth are, in fact, widely popular. should we raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour? it's what the american people want. should we provide health care to every man, woman and child as a human right? that's what the american people want. should we make public colleges and universities tuition free? yeah. that's what the american people

want. should we create millions of jobs by addressing the crisis of climate change? yeah. that's what the american people want. so the agenda that we are supporting is an agenda that the american people want. and the agenda that the republicans are supporting, tax breaks for billionaires, voter suppression, et cetera, are certainly not very popular. so they are throwing out all kinds of rhetoric to try to defeat biden's initiatives. >> should democrats do something about that, though? all of those things you just talked about, $15 minimum wage, health care for everyone, these are not -- socialism is government control of production. there is isn't a single thing on the table that's socialist. is there work to be done on the part of democrats to say you're just talking nonsense. >> well, it goes beyond that, ali. where we are right now, to my mind is the great crisis we're

facing politically is not even a debate over the issues. it's whether or not we remain a democracy. and what happened to liz cheney -- look, liz cheney is an extraordinary conservative congresswoman. i agree with her on nothing. but she was thrown out of the leadership of the republican party for the "crime" of telling the truth. of making it clear that donald trump lost the election. that it was a fair election. and for that, she's no longer part of the republican leadership. and what we are seeing in states all across this country, not just georgia and texas and michigan, but all across this country is an effort on the part of the republican party to suppress the vote. to make it very, very difficult for low income people, people of color to vote. and to instill incredible gerrymandering districts to encourage billionaires to be

able to buy elections rather than deal with real campaign finance reform. so the fight we are dealing with right now, ali, is whether or not this country is going to be a democracy or we're going to move to an authoritarian cult led by donald trump. >> we need to start taking the human rights of palestinians into account. senator ted cruz, not talking about you, but talking about the squad's opposition to things. he said this on thursday. it's disgraceful that you have members of the united states congress that basically operate as shills for terrorists and undermine israel. and they undermine israel so often that you start to say okay, we get it. you don't like the jews. folks have said that about you, too. how do we understand the ability to criticize the policies of the israeli government as being entirely separate from and counter to anti-semitism?

>> that's exactly right. the israeli government has evolved over the years into a pretty strong right wing government. and their coalition now includes people who are overt racists. and when you have the united states of america, ali, putting almost $4 billion a year into israel, we have the right to demand that they respect the human rights of all people, including the palestinians. what we need now is an even-handed policy which protects the security of israel. they have a right to live in peace and security without terrorist attacks. but the people in the palestinian territories also have a right to live in peace and dignity. and anyone who takes a look what's going on in gaza right now, where youth unemployment is 70%, and i'm talking about before this current war and the

terrible things that have happened in the war. where youth unemployment is sky high. where people can't get electricity and clean water on a regular basis. this is a territory controlled by israel. so we've got to deal with the corruption of the palestinian authority. we've got to deal with that. but we have also got to create a situation where the people in the palestinian territories are respected as well. >> covered a lot of ground, senator. senator bernie sanders of vermont. always good to have you on the show. and that does it for me. thank you for watching. catch me here next saturday and sunday from 8:00 to 10:00 eastern. "the sunday show" with jonathan capehart starts right now. he's got an interview with dr. anthony fauci. new violence in the middle east as outrage grows over an attack on media offices in gaza. we'll have a live update from the region.

new mask guidelines and a palpable sense that we're at the beginning of the end of the pandemic. dr. anthony fauci joins me live. and the party line. >> i also want to thank president trump for his support. he is a critical part of our republican team. i support president trump. voters support president trump. we are unified in working with president trump. >> while elise stefanik is in and liz cheney is out. and what it means for their party and our democracy. i'm jonathan capehart. this is "the sunday show." this sunday, hamas announced they'll be launching large missile barrages in response to early morning israeli air strikes in gaza city. you can see video of rescuers pulling people from the wreckage from those strikes. 33 people, including eight children w