tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 16, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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good afternoon, everyone. i'm yasmin vossoughian. there's a new international effort to stop the violence between israelis and palestinians. the two faces of the republican party hitting the sunday talk shows. which part of the gop will in fact prevail? matt gaetz making light of the sex-for-pay allegations against him ahead of a crucial hearing involving his former wingman and potential government witness. next hour, a woman on a mission. i'm going to talk to a pediatrician who's trying to convince parents to get their
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kids vaccinated as soon as they are eligible. that is ahead. you don't want to miss that conversation. we're just five months into joe biden's presidency. the biggest political battle in washington is not about taxes, it's not about policy or between democrats and republicans. this moment is within the republican party vowing not to go silent after losing her leadership position. congressman liz cheney is making it clear donald trump has betrayed the party while elise stefanik, the woman replacing cheney, has a different story. >> he's causing people to believe that they can't count on our electoral process to actually convey the will of the people. we have to be a nation of laws. if you continue to reject -- if you reject the rulings of the courts, if you work against the rulings of our courts, then you really are at war with the constitution. he is a continuing danger to our system. >> we have a unified message that resonates with the american people across the country. republicans are unified despite what the media will tell you.
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we are unified and talking about conservative principles. president trump is an important voice in the republican party. we are working as one team. >> let's go ali vitali who's on capitol hill. i don't know where unity is coming from, ali, that's not what i've seen. there looks to be no sign, from my perspective of the reporting that we've within doing across the network of this rift going away. >> reporter: yeah, because it's not going away. this is another chapter in the larger book of the future of the republican party. what's so fascinating to me is over the course of the last few weeks i've spoken to republican members who said they wanted to vote cheney out of leadership because they didn't want to keep relitigating the past. they didn't want to keep talking about the big lie. they didn't want the focus to necessarily be on the past and president trump. they wanted to focus on going against the biden administration and working to retake the majority in 2022. what's become clear, though, is that even though we're just a few days out from cheney losing her leadership post and stefanik
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being elevated, this is not something that will be in the rear view. in fact republicans, the very few who are not on the trump bandwagon are planning on being very vocal about the fact there is another way for this party to go. take, for example, adam kinzinger this morning on "meet the press." >> this is the lie of the century. the greatest crime of the century. you cannot on the one hand say that donald trump is a leader or the leader of the republican party. you can't say he's the leader and then say we have to move on. >> reporter: also on the sunday shows this morning, congresswoman cheney who is not backing down. yes, she's out of leadership but she's not backing down from being a lawmaker in this body and she's made the media rounds. she started with our colleague, savannah guthrie, but she even went on fox news sunday making the case that there's another path forward for the republican party. also consider the fact that a few weeks ago if you had asked most politically savvy or
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politically inclined voters who the number three house republican was, i'm not sure many of them could have given you an answer. but now after this sustained media criticism of the path forward for the republican party, a lot of people know the name liz cheney and they know that she's out there proposing something new. she has a bigger megaphone than ever before. the thing is it doesn't matter if you have a megaphone or you're speaking at a whisper if nobody is listening. that's the larger story that will play out once people start voting again especially in 2022. look no further than that ugov poll that said only 17% of republicans wanted to see cheney keep her role in leadership. that tells you maybe there's an appetite for discussion about a future path for the republican party that's not under trump, but maybe not a ton of appetite among republican voters. that's going to be the interesting schism here. >> you do make a point here, inadvertently elevating the platform of liz cheney.
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great to see you. we're following some breaking news out of the middle east. tensions are high as israel has fired on some 90 targets in gaza today. that has led to the deadliest single attack with 42 palestinians dead, including 16 women and 10 children. this has prompted more hamas rocket attacks on israel. israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu appearing on american television a short time ago saying the violence will continue at full force while claiming they are minimizing civilian casualties. >> if hamas thought that they could just fire rockets and then sit back and enjoy immunity, that's false. we are targeting a terrorist organization that is targeting our civilians and hiding behind their civilians, using them as human shields. we are doing everything we can to hit the terrorists themselves, their rockets, their rocket caches and their arms, but we're not going to just let them get away with it. >> the prime minister on cbs earlier today. let's bring in nbc global
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correspondent ross sanchez and lauren aiden. rob, i want to start with you and talk about what we know of the latest attacks. >> reporter: as you said, this was the single deadliest israeli strike we have seen in gaza so far. 42 people killed, including 10 children in this strike alone. that means we have more than 50 children killed in gaza this week. the death toll from today's strike has been rising hour by hour as rescue crews pull more bodies out of the rubble in gaza city. a number of palestinian health care personnel from gaza's already overstretched health care system believed to have also been killed in this strike. i have been asking the israeli military what was the target here? what were you aiming for? they told me they were going after a hamas underground military infrastructure. and when that underground
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facility collapsed, civilian houses above it collapsed also. nbc news cannot independently verify that claim about that hamas infrastructure. we do know hamas places military bases in civilian areas. but the question under international law is does the military significance of this facility outweigh that massive civilian death toll that we are seeing? meanwhile the israeli military says hamas and other militant groups have now fired more than 3,000 rockets towards israel in the last seven days. we have ten people dead in israel, including one child, and that is a much more intense rate of rocket fire than what we saw in the last war in 2014. yasmin. >> lauren, joe biden discussing israel's attack on the international press building in gaza with prime minister netanyahu. the international press corps condemning this attack, the a.p. and al jazeera inside of this
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building. a.p. and al jazeera integral to the coverage of what is happening in gaza, the massive amount of life that we are losing there. what did netanyahu reveal to the president about the evidence for that attack to back up the claims of hamas in that building? >> reporter: that's right, yasmin. president biden did speak to prime minister netanyahu over the phone. they did discuss the attack on that building that houses those news outlets. now, netanyahu has claimed that hamas was operating out of that building. this morning in an interview with cbs, netanyahu was asked directly whether or not he provided evidence that hamas was in fact in that building when he spoke to president biden on the phone yesterday. here is what netanyahu had to say about that. >> well, we share with our american friends all that intelligence and here's the intelligence we had.
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it's about palestinian terrorists -- an intelligence office for the palestinian terrorist organization housed in that building that plots and organizes the terror attacks against israeli civilians, so it's a perfectly legitimate target. i can tell you that we took every precaution to make sure that there were no civilian injuries. >> reporter: now, yasmin, this all comes as president biden is facing pressure both from democrats as well as the international community to do more to stand up to israel and call for an end to this ongoing violence. >> thank you both, guys. so just days after the cdc announced mask mandates would be relaxed for fully vaccinated americans, more vaccine pop-up sites are starting to appear at subway stations in new york city. it's to boost accessibility as demand for the shot slows down. but health care experts are worried about those who remain
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hesitant and unprotected. here's what dr. fauci told my colleague, jonathan capehart, earlier today. >> i'm very concerned because they're not protected. that's the reason, jonathan, why we keep coming out saying please get vaccinated, not only for your own health, the health of your family but also the health of the community. certainly we don't want anybody to get infected. if you're asking me do i worry about being who are unvaccinated, i do. i'm a physician and i'm a public health official. and i do worry about people getting infected. >> all right. i want to go to nbc's cori coffin who's outside a pop-up vaccine site in the bronx. it's one of eight open in the city this week. how has this latest incentive to get vaccinated, how has it impacted the turnout so far? >> reporter: i asked doctors and they say the turnout here this weekend has been really big, more so than usual. about a third of people coming through here, it was impromptu, they didn't know it was here,
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they went ahead and got their shots. about two-thirds was word of mouth or hearing it on the news. they do believe that is due in part because of the cdc guidance, people feeling a little more comfortable or inspired to get the shot. i spoke with one of the doctors who helps run the site and set up a lot of these sites around new york as well as somebody who got the shot. listen in. >> he feels great that he got vaccinated because this way he could get back to normal. he could now take his mask off. he could speak in ways that people will understand him because they can see his face. and this way everything is going back to normal that he was hoping for. >> the virus is still around. you got a vaccination. it gives you more protection. it's your decision personally. it's a decision for the mass to say something but you personally decide how confident. if you're around an elderly person who are weak and has certain disease, i would
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continue to be more careful. >> reporter: and this is the story we're hearing across the country, yasmin. more cities trying to get more creative to get people vaccinated who have previously been hesitant, whether it's pop-up sites like this one, free vaccines for tourists or the federal government partnering with ride-share companies to bring vaccines to local communities. it is estimated there are 30 million people willing to get the vaccine but they have a barrier which is why these pop-up sites are so crucial. i also ask people out here if they feel comfortable not wearing a mask with these new cdc guidelines. even though they're excited about this next step, they say when it comes to indoor mask wearing, they will continue to do so, at least here in new york a while longer. >> cori coffin, good to see you. amid the confusion over the latest guidance as cori was just mentioning for vaccinated americans, snl took time to explain the new guidelines in last night's cold open and some everyday scenarios that could
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play out between those who have gotten their shot and those who have not. >> kobe bryant took his rightful place -- >> that is the wrong piece. we didn't need to play that. we actually wanted to play a clip from snl. do we have the clip from snl, guys? all right, we don't have it. we'll get it to you in a little bit. still ahead, gaetz keeper. anticipation over a plea deal that could shed more allegations against matt gaetz. how the congressman is comparing sex trafficking to congressional ear marks. plus shot incentives. how states are ramping up vaccination rates by offering rewards. stay with us, everybody. rewards. stay with us, everybody. and i'm l working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people who are all younger than you. i had to get help somewhere along the line
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that he committed six crimes including sex trafficking. he promised to cooperate with investigators as to who else may have been involved in the crimes. gaetz as renewed his denial about his involvement. we go to vaughn hillyard. great to see you. the congressman has always maintained that he's done nothing wrong but last night he went a little bit further. talk us through this. >> reporter: matt gaetz has not stopped himself from being public or going on the road, even essentially campaigning. he was in florida last week. then you mentioned he spoke to a couple hundred ohio gop activists last night where he addressed these very allegations. but interestingly was downplaying them and comparing them to earmarks in congress and whether those should be considered legitimate or not. take a look at his remarks there where he said i'm being falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favors. yet, congress has reinstituted a process that legalizes the corrupt act of exchanging money for favors through ear marks and
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everybody knows that's a corruption. matt gaetz just this week on friday will be in arizona with congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. but that very event could be shadowed by the fact of what joel greenberg, that tax official, an associate of matt gaetz, says tomorrow in court. so far we have court documents from friday in which greenberg has pled guilty to six charges and said that he's willing to work with federal authorities. in those court documents, he implicates other men but has yet to reveal the names of those other men. does that include matt gaetz? that is the question we may get the answer to tomorrow. as part of that plea agreement, he admitted to 150 financial transactions to women paying for sexual acts but one of those women included a minor in which joel greenberg acknowledged and admitted a minor was among those women. it was not just him but there were, again, quote, other men
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who engaged with that woman. matt gaetz and his team have vehemently denied these allegations, including just last night yet again saying he has never paid women for sex and is not engaged in sexual acts with a minor. again tomorrow, though, that court appearance could be big to see the extent to which congressman matt gaetz will have to defend himself. >> what is gaetz' standing in the republican party right now? >> reporter: he's a vocal member of congress. you know, last month he was over in wyoming calling for the ouster of liz cheney. what happened this week? liz cheney is out of office. he and marjorie taylor greene are on what they are calling an america first tour, saying that they are carrying on the message of former president donald trump. again, they're going to be in arizona further propagating these election conspiracies to undermine the americans' faith in the election system. with all of this overshadowing him, he's still very much front and center in this republican
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party today. >> quite a duo. vaughn hillyard on capitol hill, thanks. coming up at 4:00 p.m., glen kirschner will join me live on what will happen tomorrow. a lot more details. you don't want to miss that conversation. so now we have the clip of the opening of snl. let's watch. >> the cdc announced that people who are vaccinated no longer need to wear masks outdoors or indoors. pretty great, right? but a lot of people had questions, such as what does that mean? what the hell are you talking about? is this a trap? >> welcome to a bar. >> thank you. do i still have to wear a mask indoors? >> you actually do not. >> as long as you're vaccinated. >> i'm not. >> oh, then that's bad. >> well, i'm entering a bar at 11:00 a.m. did you really think i was vaxxed, because that's on you. >> you're right. i deserve covid. >> end scene. >> it got even better than that
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after that, by the way. coming up, a tale of two countries as states here at home launch lottery-like incentives to get vaccinated. across the world in india doctors are pleading for basic supplies, ppe. after the break, how a hospital in rhode island is leading an effort to answer that very call. we'll be right back. l. we'll be right back. [truck horn blares] (vo) the subaru forester. dog tested. dog approved. ♪ the calming scent of lavender by downy infusions calm.
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welcome back, everybody. we're following breaking news from southern california where mandatory evacuations are under way right now, northwest los angeles, as a fast-moving wildfire ravages an area around topanga state park. firefighters have been battling the 750 plus acre blaze since it began on friday. a specific cause for the fire has not yet been determined, but law enforcement said it is actively searching for an arson suspect. we'll bring you more as we get it. so as demand wanes, states are devising some interesting
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ways to incentivize vaccinations. with me to discuss is scott cohn who's in san francisco, california, who finds himself inside a fast food joint with some really good-looking french fries behind him. scott, good to see you today. vaccinations still declining from their april highs. how are folks there, how are health officials enticing americans to get their vaccines? >> reporter: well, you know, yasmin, there's a mix of different things going on. some of the government incentives that are going on are pretty interesting. in ohio, for example, they're actually doing a weekly lottery. you get your vaccine, you're entered in a million dollar drawing. 17-year-olds can win a full ride scholarship to a state college or university in ohio. in maine you can get a free hunt ing license or free state park pass, free fishing license. and then there are the private companies. this is super duper burgers. it's a chain out here in
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california. at their four locations in san francisco, they are giving away free french fries for people who got their vaccination. they kind of look at it as a way to really help get the restaurant industry back and get people thinking about it and they do say that they have been at their four locations been giving away between 75 and 100 free orders of french fries every day, so people are definitely taking them up on it. >> i've got to say, i think i'd go for the million dollar lottery, scott cohn. i do like some french fries, but that million bucks sounds pretty good too. scott cohn for us in san francisco, california. thank you, scott. not much of a choice there, thanks, scott. let's talk coronavirus deaths in india. they have swelled above 4,000 for the fourth time carrying the total number of fatalities to 270,000. it's the next chapter in a crisis with hospitals crippled,
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variants raging and the government seemingly indifferent to all of it. they have been pleaing for help. doctors laura foreman have battled the covid outbreak in rhode island during the bleakest months. these days they are leading the effort to get relief and supplies to india. joining me are those two doctors from rhode island. welcome, guys, thank you for joining us on this. really appreciate it. dr. foreman, i'm going to start with you on this one and just ask how this partnership came about? >> so it was serendipity. having worked on the front lines of this pandemic for over a year with dr. factor, we understood the enormity of what's facing our colleagues in india and what it was like to take care of patients in this pandemic and not being able to do enough. having worked in war zones and
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refugee camps, i also understand what it's like to work without enough resources, to have to take a child off of a ventilator because i thought somebody else had a better chance of survival and to have to make those poor choices is devastating and agonizing to say the least. understanding that, seeing what's going on in india was profoundly affecting us. dr. factor and i ran into each other in the hospital and started talking about what was going on in india right now and personally for him and his family and realized that we had to do something so we came up with this idea of sending medical supplies to india. when we started talking about it, that's when the serendipity kicked in. i talked to my partner who believes if we could get the supplies, we could get an airplane. she talked to her cousin who ran into a vice president of an airline on a flight and said let's start with yes and we'll see what we can figure out from there. so that's our mantra, let's just start with yes. from the president of our
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organization, care new england, who said yes, we can use the resources of our organization to do this to all the people who have been willing to donate every step along the way, people have said of course we need to do something. as physicians and also as human beings, it just seemed like the thing that we had to do at this point. >> that's a good place to start, starting with yes. doctor, india reporting 3800 to 3900 deaths per day and i just said now it's over 4,000. at that point you called this a veritable calamity. you have family there. you are a native of that country. what do you make of what's happening in india right now? >> so i try to explain the enormity of this. imagine in rhode island we have about 130,000 cases in this past year. india has been clocking 400,000 cases every sipping -- single day for the last four weeks.
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as we rightly said, 4,000 people are dying. i've had a close friend die here in the middle of march in america. i had extended family members who died in india over the past six weeks. so for me this is very personal. as laura said, we've been working on the front lines here since its outset in march. we've seen the kind of carnage, the devastation that this can cause and so we had to do something. we started with this idea of getting supplies there and in the last seven to ten days, this is where we are. we've had enormous input from the community and it's heart warming and it's overwhelming to see the support that we're getting from everybody out here. >> that's incredible to see the work that you all are doing to help india right now and so many folks are looking at what's happening there and saying how can i help. dr. forman, you and i spoke when you were opening up a field
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hospital in november when we were seeing yet another surge in your state. i want to play a little bit of that for everybody. >> our plan is to have covid positive patients come here, both those who are lower acuity and mid-acuity. people who need oxygen, iv antibiotics and iv fluids would be here. our hope is not to have severely ill patients here. we don't have the capacity to take care of people who need an icu level of care, although we would be prepared to transfer them back to a traditional hospital. we initially set this up back in march. at this point we're looking at probably two to three weeks before we think we'll need to open given the current trajectory in rhode island. >> there was a moment in your state, 300 plus beds in a field hospital at a former bank area. it was a scary moment for the state of rhode island and really for the country as cases were skyrocketing across the country. how different is what was happening then that you were dealing with versus what you're seeing in india?
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>> what we were dealing with really pales in comparison to what's happening in india now. looking back at that, i think about how terrified we were then and how depleted we felt and it's pretty extraordinary now to be in this position. what i have found as a physician going through the pandemic is this experience of disempowerment and facing something this enormous and not being able to help people really takes away a piece of your humanity in a way. being able to turn around and do something for people who are suffering so much more than we in our state did, even though we did suffer, is bringing back the humanity. it's helping heal us and make us whole again to be able to do this. >> dr. thakkar, if people have access to ppe to help, how do they reach out to you? >> they can absolutely email me. it's jthakkar@ -- they can get
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in touch with you and follow up with me and dr. forman. i was telling dr. forman over the weekend this family that is known to us, the daughters were 11 and 6, set up a lemonade stand. they got $300 through the morning and the parents are going to double that to 600 and donate to our cause. >> that's a lot of lemonade sold, i've got to say. >> it was 82 degrees here, one of the first days, so i guess it just was perfect. at dr. forman said, the stars seem to be lining up. i think both dr. forman and me believe that if there is a way, we will forge -- if there's a will, we will forge a way. that's how we kind of think of it. that's how things are going. so it's truly amazing. >> start from yes. thank you both. dr. forman, good to see you once
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again and good to see your face. >> out of a mask. >> thank you both. and all the work that you do every day. coming up, the unemployment debate in the spotlight. some politicians are pledging to get americans back to work by cutting jobless benefits as soon as this summer. while that may be a powerful talking point, there's no simple solution. josh barrow hosts a podcast left, right and center and joins me live to break it all down with us. stay with us. it all down with us. stay with us
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now. >> reporter: in an emotional ceremony, vanessa bryant remembered her late hospital more than a year after a tragic helicopter accident took the lives of kobe, their daughter gianna, and seven others. >> right now, i'm sure he's laughing in heaven because i'm about to praise him in public. >> reporter: fellow hall of famer and friend, michael jordan, stood by vanessa as she remembered kobe's love for his fans. >> i remember asking him why he couldn't just sit a game out because he was hurting. he said, what about the fans that saved up to watch me play just once? he never forgot about his fans. >> reporter: kobe wanted his whole family to be there that day, including baby capri, and he got his wish. emotions already running high from the night before when kobe's oldest daughter, natalia, accepted the traditional hall of fame red jacket in his place. now a new kobe bryant exhibit at the hall of fame showcases his extraordinary career over two
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decades earning him five nba championship rings, two olympic gold medals as well as jerseys and sneakers worn by the star. >> i'm so proud of you. i love you forever and always, kobe bean bryant. >> reporter: a love supported by the basketball community and fans who lost one of the greatest stars ever too soon. >> a beautiful moment for a family that's been through a lot. close to 2 million americans are set to have their unemployment checks slashed this summer as a wave of republican governors opt out of receiving enhanced jobless benefits for their states in a bid to push more people back into the workforce. in this week's edition of "in the spotlight" my next guest and his panel debate what they see as a national labor shortage and how it could inflict financial harm on those who say they already are struggling. listen to this.
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>> it's not the budget impact i'm worried about. i think that people who don't work suffer. and again, your work doesn't necessarily have to be paid work. my wife, her full-time job is taking care of our six kids. but the people who are unemployed by almost definition aren't stay-at-home parents or retirees or students. and you actually suffer. it's bad for people's health to stay out of work. if you're getting the same amount of money and you don't have a job, that's bad for you. >> you know, if you work in hotels or you work in nightclubs or certain industries that have been heavily impacted, maybe your business isn't really fully back open yet, so why do we want people rushing out looking for some new career, some new job to do that's available to do because their unemployment benefits are running out when they can wait just a few more months and go back to doing what it was that they did before, that they are good at doing? >> joining me now, josh barrow, host of left, right and center
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podcast. josh, great to see you. thanks for joining us on this. >> absolutely. >> this was a fascinating conversation. we're looking at states like georgia, mississippi. i got a call from a woman in mississippi talking to me about the fact they're going to slash unemployment benefits come june. folks are really scared, especially in these states that are already having major financial issues. we heard some of the things you guys cover, tim's meaning of purpose, which is an interesting point to be made. how you get into this depression mode when you're not working but you also talked about child care. you talk about the women that have left the workforce during this entire pandemic and how a lot of these women are now having to stay home, men are having to stay home as well to help take care of their children and these extended unemployment benefits are helping them. >> yeah. the debate that's being had in state capitols right now is whether the enhanced unemployment program where people are able to get an extra $300 a week and more weeks of benefits, the debate is whether that will end in late june or early july or early september,
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which is when the federal authorization for it ends. tim has some thoughts about broad principles of unemployment benefits. but really this decision is about a period of a couple of months so i don't think it's a broad life cycle choice. what i see happening is there are a number of factors that have people maybe a little hesitant to return right away. you do have -- if you're receiving substantial unemployment benefits that you will lose if you go back to work, that is a reason not to take a job yet especially if you're confident that it will be possible to get a job in september. usually when we have these it's when the labor market is weak and people don't know if the job will be available in two months. right now people say i think i can get a job in september. but it's not just the benefits. a lot of people whose ordinary child care arrangements are disrupted. their kids are maybe not in school on a full five day a week schedule. so those things tend toward let's wait until september.
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and you have some industries that are still going to be slower to come back. in new york where i live, restaurants are open at essentially full capacity but broadway is not open, nightclubs are not open in anything resembling a normal way so there are certain things and the airline industry is coming back. but there are certain things where that job is maybe not available now. it's likely to be available in september. you don't really want to push people into the first available job if there's a likely job available soon in the future. my view is waiting until september is okay but we are getting weirdness from the labor market with wage growth that's pretty fast with not as much job creation we were looking for. if this went on for a long time, that would be a problem. >> i do want to talk quickly about incentives. minimum wage, arkansas $11, mississippi $7.25, montana $8 respond 75. south carolina, 7.25.
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if there's no incentive for people to return to work and make more money from extended unemployment, does the argument come into the conversation which is raise the minimum wage? give people a living wage? >> well, and i think we are seeing upward pressure on wages now even when the government doesn't raise the minimum wage. a lot of states have raised it pretty substantially. arkansas, that was a ballot initiative that voters passed and that's why the minimum wage there is so much higher than some of the other states. wages in just one month for nonmanagerial workers rose almost a percentage point in april, which is a big increase for just one month. and you're seeing all these places offering signing bonuses. it is really hard to hire right now and you say pay more and businesses are doing that to an extent. but i think they are reluctant to offer very large wage increases that there might be pressure for permanence when the labor market will not be like this in six months so that's why
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you have this dislocation where there's less job creation. but i think this won't be a big issue in the late fall. >> by the way, left, center right is the -- left, right and center. i feel like it should be far left, left, far right, right, center left, center right in this political climate. >> yeah. the show -- we've been on so long arianna huffington was our conservative panelist when we launched. >> make sure you tune in to left, right and center podcast. new episodes drop every single friday. let me know what podcasts you love. still ahead, a push for peace and healing from a palestinian who has suffered incredible loss in this conflict. now he's trying to turn his pain into a healing force for this region. gion finding new routes to reach your customers, and new ways for them to reach you... is what business is all about.
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welcome back. breaking news. diplomatic efforts to broker a cease-fire between israel and hamas are ramping up. the u.n. security council meeting a short time ago with the secretary general announce the fighting must stop immediately. secretary of state blinken has also spoken with egypt's foreign minister working on de-escalating the fighting. the single deadliest attack of this violent week with an israeli air strike killing 42 people, including 10 kids. the death toll in gaza now stands at 190 and 10 dead in israel. my next guest knows the realities of this violence firsthand. he lost his 10-year-old daughter. she was shot and killed outside of her school by israeli border police back in 2007. he founded the combatants for peace and works with the forgiveness project. both organizations are working to promote peace and cooperation between fellow palestinians and israelis. he is joining me now from the west bank. thank you so much for joining us on this.
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i really appreciate it. i am so incredibly sorry for the loss that you experienced of your daughter. i want to talk a little bit about your early story. at 17 years old you were caught planning an attack on israeli troops and spent the next seven years of your life in prison. during that time your perspective completely changed. why? >> thank you. yes. to start the answer, in fact i well tell you about the holocaust. so i discovered the holocaust in jail. i have no idea what happened to my people in 1948. then i try to understand if it's a big lie or if it's true. after many years, 2010, 2011, i
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believe about the holocaust. i believe if you know more, you act better. if you don't know, you don't know, you are a victim to your society, to your education, to your history. this is the biggest council that's gone on in the world. among our region they don't know a lot. they support one side against the other side unconditionally which is beyond our conflict, our suffering in this area. >> you also befriended a prison guard during your time when you were in jail. and the two of you shared your experiences with one another, an israeli prison guard. how did that help? >> that's right. in fact we start to talk even though it's forbidden for them to talk to us, because we are the bad guys, we are the terrorists, we are the killers, and he discovered that i'm not a terrorist. we start to talk as friends.
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really we become very close friends. we understand that he starts to treat us with dignity in a different way. he discovered that i belong to the native nation and everything he hears just lies and i found him after i get from jail in 2009 that before he died. >> and even when you -- go ahead. >> he save my life once when they start to beat us in jail. suddenly he saw me so he protect me personally for him because i am his friend. so i look for him for many years to say thank you because he saved my life. >> that's incredible. even when your daughter was killed. at that moment you could have
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justifiably turned to violence with the loss of your 10-year-old daughter, and you didn't. >> because i promised myself not to go back to be a victim. because when you become a victim again, i decide to sit out from this victimhood mentality. when you make peace with yourself -- i know there's killing every day. we decide to break the circle and not to support revenge. i promised her that her killer will die and she will live longer than him because no one asks about him and the rest of the world will say the name abir and ask about her, not because she's a fighter. she is not a hero. she's just 10 years, innocent years. she had nothing to do with the conflict. she don't know anything about the conflict. so we decide that and i joined a
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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. the gop right now is a rogues gallery of bad actors facing potential consequences for their actions. congressman matt gaetz trying to joke his way through a scandal that includes a hearing tomorrow for a party buddy who's about to become a cooperating witness for the feds. calls for an ethics investigation for representative marjorie taylor greene after her confrontation with aoc. and an effort to censure a croup of republican congressmen trying to whitewash the january 6 capitol hill riot as the party tries to figure out its way forward, truth or trump. the two square off on sunday shows along with some of their republican counterparts. watch this. >> we have a unified message that resonates with the american people a
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