welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. the gop right now is a rogues gallery of bad actors facing potential consequences for their actions. congressman matt gaetz trying to joke his way through a scandal that includes a hearing tomorrow for a party buddy who's about to become a cooperating witness for the feds. calls for an ethics investigation for representative marjorie taylor greene after her confrontation with aoc. and an effort to censure a croup of republican congressmen trying to whitewash the january 6 capitol hill riot as the party tries to figure out its way forward, truth or trump. the two square off on sunday shows along with some of their republican counterparts. watch this. >> we have a unified message that resonates with the american people across the country.

republicans are unified. >> what does it say about the party choosing somebody to replace you who was effectively chosen by donald trump. >> i think it's dangerous. i think that we have to recognize how quickly things can unravel. we have to recognize what it means for the nation to have a former president who has not conceded. >> trump set the table. he's the one that continually brings up a stolen election narrative. he's the one that has convinced members of congress, including what we saw a few days ago, to have a hearing on january 6 and claim that this was nothing but a tourist group or that it was hugs and kisses. >> look, i do not think trump is the devil and i won't say that. i don't think he's jesus either. >> so we want to begin this hour with the ongoing scandal surrounding republican congressman matt gaetz and the court case just hours away that could determine his furlt. matt gaetz' associating, joel greenberg, is set to plead

guilty tomorrow to sex crimes and sex with a minor. that will open the door into whether gaetz is involved with some of those crimes. gaetz was not been charged with anything and continues to deny any wrongdoing. last night at a republican summit in the state of ohio, gaetz said that he's being falsely accused of exchanging money for naughty favors. but then said congress has reinstated a process that legalizes the corrupt act of exchanging money for favors through ear marks and everybody knows that that's the corruption. let's bring in former federal prosecutor and nbc legal analyst glen kirschner for more on the legal implications and what could be next specifically for matt gaetz. glenn, great to see you on this sunday. appreciate seeing you on this. what to earmarks have to do with the accusations made against gaetz? >> yasmin, when i read that quote from gaetz, i thought two things. first of all, it is obscene to refer to sex trafficking as --

with a minor as naughty favors. and then when he starts to deflect and talk about earmarks, that's the equivalent of butt her emails. that's matt gaetz announcing, sure, you may have caught me doing all sorts of stuff wrong, but you know what, congress does stuff wrong all the time, including earmarks. that could be turned on its head and viewed as an admission of guilt but we'll have to see how the prosecutors choose to play that. it looks like based on the greenberg plea agreement, which is something i never saw in my 30 years as a prosecutor, i think the prosecutors are going to have sort of an embarrassment of riches when it comes to criminal conduct of others. >> okay. so let's talk about this plea agreement. 6 out of 33 he's pleading guilty to, sex trafficking of a minor, conspiracy to bribe a public official, stalking, wire fraud, identity theft, creating a false identification document. you say you've never seen this

in your career, a plea agreement like this. so why do you think they settled on it? >> so, you know, it's interesting. when we approach a defendant who wants to cooperate, an aspiring cooperating witness, the first thing we do is we give that person limited immunity and sit down with that person and that person's lawyer and we interview them for hours, for days, for weeks. everything they tell us about the criminal activity of others, we go out and investigate. we see if we can corroborate to make sure that the aspiring cooperaor is telling us the truth. and if the information is really blockbuster. for example, if that aspiring cooperator can give us significantly bigger fish on the criminal food chain, then we might make them a generous plea offer. i've never seen one quite so generous as somebody who's charged with 33 federal felony counts and he's permitted to plead guilty to just six and the prosecutors will dismiss 27 points.

i tell you, as i was going through the plea agreement, all 86 pages of it, it's not a light read. i saw all of the receipts, the corroboration. 60 pages worth of hard receipts, corroboration of the crimes that greenberg committed and the crimes he says other committed. if i could read just one sentence which i think should send shudders through anyone who was involved in doing dirt with joel greenberg, it's on page 30 where the prosecutors write greenberg also introduced the minor to other adult men, plural, who engaged in commercial sex acts with the minor in the middle district of florida. boy, it looks like they have the receipts on those other men. they haven't named them yet, but i have a feeling we're going to learn who they are very soon, and one of them may very well be matt gaetz. >> so the receipts and corroboration obviously raising the credibility of someone like

joel greenberg as well. why not names listed in this plea deal? >> we never show our cards until we are prepared to make arrests because then suspects will flee, they will destroy evidence, they will try to tamper with witnesses. so i don't expect we will hear who those men are until there are already arrest photos and perp walks made. >> glen kirschner, thank you as always, my friend. great to see you. some republicans in congress facing potential consequences, marjorie taylor greene after choosing at alexandria ocasio-cortez falsely accusing her of supporting terrorists. eric swalwell is criticizing greene for stalking aoc saying he's convicted people for less. >> the greene behavior, frankly, jim, i was a prosecutor. i've convicted people for less on stalking charges. she is following miss

ocasio-cortez around for years trying to engage with her. she just needs to let it go. >> meanwhile democratic congressman david cicilline is pushing to censure republicans downplaying the january 6th riot. republicans who likened the attack to a normal tourist visit. so what repercussions could these lawmakers face? let's talk to jeremy peters about that. jeremy, great to see you. >> thanks. >> let's start with part of what we just heard from eric swalwell there, talking about the idea that marjorie taylor greene could be prosecuted for her actions on the hill. on top of that you have pelosi floating this idea of an ethics probe into taylor greene's behavior. what are the real consequences that we could see come out of this? >> i think at this point given the republican party leadership's refusal to condemn or to discipline in any way its members like marjorie taylor greene, it's up entirely to nancy pelosi and the democrats

about how far they are willing to go. that extends from everything to censure, to investigation, to even expulsion from the house of representatives, which they would be in their power to move forward on. i think that would be pretty tricky and problematic, but they can initiate that if they wanted to because the fact of the matter says the house gets to decide who its members are. and that is a little farfetched, i think, but it's indicative of the polarized political climate and the desire you are going to start, i think, hearing louder and louder from democrats that this type of conduct needs to be punished. if the republicans won't do it, then basically you're left with the democratic leadership holding all the cards here and that they ought to move. and i've heard some democrats say indeed that's what they want to see happen. >> we were talking about this on the show yesterday, and i was speaking with my ep afterwards

and we talked about the fact that folks would be fired here if they acted like marjorie taylor greene did, shouting through mail slots into people's offices and harassing them for their views. i also want to play a little bit of what congresswoman donna edwards told me when i asked her about what aoc should actually do about this. >> if i were representative ocasio-cortez or any other member who's been under threat by marjorie taylor greene or her staff, i would try to go and seek a protection order. i think it's really that serious. to have her stay away and be required to do that or face penalties in court. >> that was actually pretty astounding moment for me to hear from donna edwards the fact that aoc should seek a protection order considering the fact that they work together. they work in the capitol together. a protection order would say you have to stay 500 feet away from said person. that seems feasibly impossible

to do. but to have to bring in law enforcement would be the only way to keep marjorie taylor greene away from aoc. how would something like that really work and it speaks to the political climate that is in washington right now. >> right. i think -- i think that alexandria ocasio-cortez would have to prove that she was under the threat of some kind of physical harm in order for something like this to go forward. it doesn't seem entirely plausible. i think probably the more reasonable or realistic outcome here is going to be some type of action initiated by the democrats in the house of representatives. i think to your point, though, yasmin, about the culture of the republican party right now, i mean think about it this way. how much have we heard from kevin mccarthy and other leaders of the house republican conference about liz cheney and her perceived sins and how much

have we heard about them from marjorie taylor greene? they refuse to condemn marjorie taylor greene for the most part, refuse to hold her accountable, and in fact resisted efforts by democrats to do that when they took her off her committee assignments. but yet they purge anybody who dares to say the truth, that president trump and his supporters have lied about what happened in the 2020 election. i think that says all you need to know about where the power in the republican party is at this moment. >> and i actually think it's astounding to me to hear elise stefanik on the sunday shows saying the republican party is unified. whether you're a republican or democrat or member of a third party or an independent, whatever you may be, i mean you have eyes and ears to understand the republican party is certainly not unified. liz cheney is a huge part, a huge member of the republican party. there are a lot of members of congress right now that are not

in agreeance with what the republican party is doing. so the idea that the republican party is unified is just completely not true. >> i think there's a couple of different categories of republicans right now. one are the people who have basically been affected by this notion that you repeat a lie often enough and that lie becomes their truth. and that's what's happened with, i would say, folks like ron johnson over in the senate who from everybody i've spoken to is -- appears to be, i should say, legitimately -- legitimately persuaded that the election in fact was rigged and stolen. and i know that's an extraordinary thing that a united states senator would believe that, but that's what people tell me is actually the case. number two are the people who know that it wasn't stolen but perpetuate the lie because they

know that that's where their source of power is, right? that's where the money in the party is coming from, raising it from people who buy into this, who believe that the election was stolen. these politicians will not stand up to the truth. but what they will do is they will try to remove people like liz cheney from the party who do stand up and do speak the truth and do say, no, the history of january 6th cannot be whitewashed. we can't forget what an egregious assault this was on our democracy, on the seat of american government, and that any attempts to do that are just completely immoral and wrong. so there are people who know what they're up to -- they know what they're doing is wrong, they know it's not in the long-term interests of the health of the party, but it's in the short-term interests because it's how they think they're going to get back the house of representatives in 2022. >> jeremy peters, thank you as

always. good to see you, my friend. coming up, everybody, a deadly day in the israeli/palestinian conflict. and changing the game. the push for the u.s. to change its playbook when it comes to middle east tensions. after the break, daniel levy joins me live to explain. r the y joins me live to expla in

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welcome back. we're continuing to follow the escalating violence in the middle east as 42 people were

killed in an israeli air strike in gaza. hamas then retaliated sending rockets at israel. the tragic week has left 190 people dead in gaza, including more than 50 children, and 10 dead in israel. at the u.n. security council meeting on the situation today, u.s. ambassador to the u.n., linda thomas greenfield stopped short of calling for a cease-fire, instead saying the u.s. would lend its support should the parties seek a cease-fire. >> the united states calls on hamas and other palestinian groups in gaza to immediaty halt rocket attacks and other provocations. we also are deeply concerned about the ongoing enter communal violence among mixed communities in israel. we urge all parties to avoid actions that undermine a peaceful future. this includes avoiding incitement, violent attacks and terrorist acts, as well as evictions, including in east jerusalem, demolitions. >> i want to bring in daniel

levy, who has a paper out on a new way forward to u.s. for the purpose policy in the middle east. daniel, thanks for joining us on this. i really appreciate it. i first want to get your reaction to what the u.s. u.n. ambassador said there. >> it's a very simple reaction, yasmin, not good enough. it's not enough to call out where hamas is violating international law as it should be called out but not to call out disproportionate responses from israel. you quoted the figures yourself in terms of the cause yalt -- casualty numbers in gaza, in terms of the number of children. this is an ongoing denial of palestinian rights. if you can't set it in this context and if the best you can do at the united nations is to fail to call for an immediate cease-fire and to prevent the u.n. statement let alone u.n. action, and if you have which you do the israeli prime minister in the israeli media tonight, this is what's been happening this evening in the

israeli media thanking president biden for his support, then something is going horribly wrong with the new administration failing to assert itself on this issue, failing to live up to its own stated principles that america is back because america respects international law, respects human rights and respects values. this fails on every one of those scores. >> i want to read some of the piece that you co-wrote in foreign policy because i thought it was a really good piece talking about essentially that biden needs to change the approach to the israeli/palestinian conflict. one part you talk about, u.s. policy is good about making sure they get the security they deserve. u.s. policy has been spectacularly bad at applying those standards to palestinians and challenging the separate system in place. things are guaranteed to get worse even if the diplomatic destructiveness of the previous administration is replaced by

the apparent good intention of its successor. can you expand on that? >> i'm glad i still agree with every word i wrote. >> it would be bad if you didn't. >> yeah. if i can expand on that, there was this notion that america could hide behind we support a peace process, we support negotiations. what we've argued in that article and in the report calling for a rights-based approach is in actual fact trump perhaps did us a favor, if i can put it like that, by burning the fig leaf. the scorched earth that he took to this issue means we can't go back to pretending this is just about relaunching a peace process. the framing now as increasingly understood by americans, by democrat voters, by democrat elected officials even, is that palestinians need to have their rights addressed.

america can't duck that issue. just like israelis should have their rights. but palestinians also, they're the people being denied those rights. and i think as america has gone through a belated, still partial moment of reckoning in terms of racial justice, if you're serious about justice, then that has to be applied across the board. i think people are increasingly understanding that you're going to get this wrong and every time when you return to this issue because there's another explosion and there will be another explosion as long as palestinians are denied their basic freedoms and rights, the basics are going to be even worse. for one fundamental reason. as long as israel is treated with maximum impunity, they will not change their actions towards

palestinians. in fact there is a strategic cul-de-sac, a strategic muddle because there's no military solution to this. it's not about the end of rocket fire. there has to be a diplomatic political solution and that means recognizing the palestinians need justice too, and america needs to be on the right side of this debate and people need to be telling their elected officials and the administration that this isn't good enough. >> so what about the fact that bernie sanders tweeted out today and wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" talking about the funding given to israel and the u.s. needs to think about the $4 billion they give in aid to israel every year as a way to figure out a solution to the conflict? >> well, the interesting thing here, yasmin, is that senator sanders is not so much of an outlier in beginning to call into question whether american aid to israel can be unconditional and unrestricted. you've had a series of senators, not a majority, this isn't about

to pass a vote, but this feels like the shifting of a window. this feels like something we haven't witnessed before in american politics. a number of people are saying, wait a minute, we have rules that say when we provide assistance, it has to be accounted for. it can't be used to violate people's rights. it can't be used for human rights abuses, for illegal action such as settlements or disproportionate use of the military. we have to keep a check on what's being used. and the idea that america can sit on the sidelines because it has no leverage is patently absurd given the numbers that you've just mentioned in terms of that assistance. >> i want to leave folks with what you talked about, the internal politics of this whole thing, specifically in the palestinian area. you say meanwhile palestinians must of course lead in renewing their own politics. however, the u.s. and israeli preference for an unaccountable palestinian leadership committed to the peace process status quo rather than a representative and

reempowered leadership that could more effectively challenge the occupation has had a debilitating impact. it is a fantastic piece on foreign policy. it is so good. daniel levy, thank you so much for joining us on this. really appreciate it. we need more think pieces like this. still ahead, republican implosion. the back and forth loyalty to the former president. a deep divide in a party struggling to find its identity in a post-trump world. where do they go from here? we'll be right back. they go f re we'll be right back. tore whe we've goe best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. and if you're looking for... hi, i'm debra. i'm from colorado. whe we've goe best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, i've been married to my high school sweetheart

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welcome back. as more children become eligible for the covid vaccine, pediatricians will soon be finding themselves on the front lines of the push to get kids vaccinated. about 17 million more young americans became eligible this week after the cdc voted to endorse the pfizer vaccine for children ages 12 to 15. despite kids being less likely to get very sick from the virus, more than 3.8 million cases of covid have been reported in children, which makes it about

14% of all u.s. cases. sadly, more than 300 children have in fact died. joining me now to talk about the vaccination effort is dr. natasha burkett from overland park, kansas. doctor, thanks for joining us on this, really appreciate it. how integral are pediatricians going to be here in getting kids vaccinated and why is it so crucial to get children vaccinated right now? >> getting the covid vaccine into our children is the only way that we can offer them direct protection against this disease. pediatricians are experts at communicating and administering and delivering vaccines to children. >> how do pediatricians help fight the vaccine hesitancy? you're already probably dealing with a lot of parents who have vaccine hesitancy when it comes to other vaccines and now you have this newly developed vaccine fighting covid.

how can pediatricians help fight that? >> pediatricians have trusted relationships with their families. and so we can use that information that we know about the passions and concerns that our families have in order to be compassionate listeners and answer questions directly. i think that it's important that parents know that this vaccine is safe and effective. that's what we talk about in my office. and i always, always share with them that my 14-year-old also got the vaccine just this last thursday. >> making it personal. you have an uphill battle, though. you've got recent polling showing 90% of parents saying they won't get their kids vaccinated at all. 15% if the school requires it and more than 30% want to wait and see how it is working. as we have heard from health officials throughout the country, it's really going to be on children to reach herd immunity in this country and a lot of kids from 2 and up probably aren't going to get vaccinated until the end of the year. >> it does create a practical

challenge. we need to get those vaccines into those trusted spaces so we can have those conversations with these hesitant families. i think it's okay to be hesitant, okay to have questions, but i just encourage families to go to trusted sources to help make a joint decision with the people advocating for the health and safety of their children. >> what concerns are you mostly hearing from parents that you speak to? >> i think that it's new. people are unsure. they want to know details about the testing process and we know that it works and that it's safe in kids. some families may have concerns about the long-term effects or myths that they have heard on the internet. part of our job right now is to keep in tune with what people are saying on social spaces, what they're hearing in their social circles and being ready to provide evidence and bust myths as we're talking to these

families. i think it's important to be patient, though. it's okay if it's not the first conversation that may encourage a vaccination. it may take a few different conversations but that's why we're here to do that. >> are kids going to be getting the same dosage of the vaccine as full-grown adults? >> yes. >> even kids down to 2 years of age or six months of age they'll have the same dosage? >> the current vaccine for 12 and above is the same as adults. currently both pfizer and moderna are doing trials to do dosage studies in 6 months to 11 so we'll see for the younger kids if the dosage changes. but currently the vaccines that are available are all the same dose. >> dr. natasha burgert, thank you. still ahead, where does the gop go from here? my panel will weigh in as the identity crisis is only getting worse. we'll be right back. s is only g worse. we'll be right back.

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i don't know what happened. i don't know what i did wrong. look at me, i am everything a conservative woman is supposed to be, blonde, mean. is this the grand implosion of trumpism? you don't even know the size of the tsunami that's coming. we're talking me, omarosa, five white women, maybe six. have i said me? >> yes, several times. >> i know, collin, i know, it's not great. conservatives are leaving me high and dry. and what more can i do for you people? i opposed gay marriage even though my own sister is a les. >> i don't know how one plays liz cheney and dr. fauci on the same day. that was snl's take on liz cheney, cracks in the republican party on full display as ousted liz cheney and her new

replacement, elise stefanik, spar over former president trump's role in the party. >> there's no question but that at this moment the majority of the republican party is not where i am. but it's my responsibility as an elected official, it's my responsibility as a leader to lead and to tell the truth. >> she is looking backwards, republicans are looking forward. we are unified and we are talking about conservative principles. president trump is an important voice in the republican party. >> and the arizona election recount led by the senate, several gop officials are questioning the effort and trump's recent comments about it. one renounced the recount as dangerous and a county election official slammed trump as unhinged by claiming that the entire database of maricopa county has been deleted. here to talk about all of this, kurt bardella and amanda renteria.

welcome to you both. kurt, i want to start with you because we played a bunch of the sound from elise stefanik's interview where she talked about the republican party is unified. we've covered that. it's not. it doesn't seem to be. then she talks about how much of the republican party is based on conservative principles which also is head scratching, considering the fact that the decision that they made about liz cheney has nothing to do with conservative principles. it's all about for or against donald trump. >> well, it's laughable for them to talk about wanting to move forward when the entire rhetoric coming from donald trump and the republican party is all about relitigating the last election. i mean if conservative values were really the linchpin, the measuring stick and barometer for this republican party, liz cheney would still be the republican chairwoman in conference but she's not. she got thrown out because of telling the truth about january 6th and telling the truth about donald trump. all the while in realtime at

this moment we see an effort under way by the arizona republican party to up do the election results. i mean you can't say with a straight face that you're about a party that wants to move forward when right now in arizona they're recounting ballots from more than six months ago. that is the biggest lie i have ever heard. the idea that this party is somehow about forward motion and conservative principles is total bs. this party is about one thing and one thing only and that's lying about the election and undermining democracy. >> let me read from your op-ed. the gravest threat now to america's freedom comes not from outside our border but from those who doubt that democracy works at all. if we saw another faction doing as the gop is doing american diplomats would be calling out that crime, kurt. >> well, listen, we heard for the better part of 2000s the republican party orthodoxy about the war on terror and fear about

terrorists from abroad, the threat from abroad. but in reality, the threat that we are facing right now at home in our own backyard from one of the two major political parties in this country has put democracy on its edge. we are teetering very, very close right now. i don't think people realize what's happening. but what we have seen now is a republican party that even on the day of the insurrection, that night, went back into the chambers of congress and voted against approving a free and fair election. this is a three-part play that we're seeing right now. act one was the november election. act two is the 2022 midterms. and if republicans somehow get control of one of two chambers of congress, i guarantee you in 2024, if they don't like the results of the election, they will not certify them and they will create a constitutional crisis, the likes of which we have never seen, putting democracy on edge and under threat in a way that it never was during the attacks of al qaeda, during everything that we

experienced in the 2000s, all of the alarmist rhetoric we heard from republicans about terror and war and terrorism. well, guess what, the threat we are seeing right now from the republican party is far bigger than any of that. >> amanda, i want to read from "the washington post" talking about the fact that republicans are twisting in knots to avoid saying biden won this election fairly whether they believe it or not. republicans are still embracing or tolerating falsehoods about the election setting it as a red line for those who want prominence in what essentially remains trump's party. party leaders say they want to focus on the future and not relitigate the election but their allegiance to trump means they can't get away from his focus on the past. the former president putting a statement out because he can't say it on twitter or facebook or any other social media sites saying the election was stolen, once again out of nowhere. what does this say about the republican party? >> people have to really understand what just happened. this was a vote for leadership, right? it wasn't just saying we disagree with congresswoman

cheney. it is now putting a structure in place to execute on what trump believes. and, you know, i think back to insurrection and early in those early days you had mccarthy on the floor saying maybe trump had something to do with this. you had mcconnell's wife resign from the administration. so folks wondered is this going to be a coming together of the country. what we just saw is a vote to say in fact we are going to side with trump. the struggle is not over from what we saw in the insurrection and kurt is right. what this is setting up is something far worse than this country has ever seen and that's the part that is so difficult in this moment right now, seeing what's happening on the republican side. having liz cheney come out and say something and have the republican party say we're going in a different direction. so anyone that thought the election of the last cycle was tough, 2022 is on the horizon, 2024 is on the horizon. and what this is setting up for is a far more intense kind of situation where people used to be it was a madman and what's happened is now that kind of

culture, style and leadership has been industrialized within the republican party. >> okay, i want to get into what you just said, amanda, because you put something out there which i need you to expand on, which is far worse than we have ever seen. we've seen a lot of that stuff over the last four years and saw a lot of that stuff on january 6th. how bad can it -- will it get and what are you saying? >> yeah. so here's what i'm worried about, which is now you have republican leadership, right, you have just moved out any dissenting voice. you have now republican leadership behind trump unified saying this is what we are going to do. and you hear liz cheney saying, well, the republican party has gone away. we have not seen a republican body in this way act like trump and begin to embed a coordinated organized fashion all across the country. you've seen state after state, georgia, arizona, and now what the republican party is saying is we're going to take that kind of culture, leadership and style at the highest levels of government and execute on a

strategy. that to me is one of the scariest things we all have to think about as we think about the next election and the future of this country. >> so what could happen? i need to know examples of what could actually happen here. >> yeah, so what we saw, what we saw was an insurrection and the republican party was saying, wait, maybe not. now you have wide open gates to say come on in. we're going to change the way the systems are. we're going to go down to capitols and change the way the laws are. we're going to actually by law exclude people and allow trump to again govern the party from the outside in. what this means for our democracy and constitution is it completely undoes the pieces of our democratic institutions that have made peaceful transitions possible in this country. as the world looks at america, what i worry about is we were hanging on by a string on january 6. now what does this say as we go into the 2020 and 2024 election or how we're going to keep it together when the leadership of the republican party, not just

one man, but the leadership and the power of these institutions are now where trump is. >> kurt, final word. >> what you're going to see is when you have one of the two political parties make excuses, apologize, rewrite history for the violent insurrection effort on january 6th, you're going to see more of that. when the republican party sits up in a congressional hearing like they did this week and say, oh, it was just like any kind of tourist day, you're telling these people to keep doing it, to do it more, to get more violent because the republican party will run cover for you. they are the getaway driver for these democratic arsonists. >> kurt, amanda, thank you both, guys, appreciate it. we're following more breaking news from the middle east. take a look, this is security video showing a bleacher collapse full of worshippers. wow. at a synagogue. this happened a short time ago in the israeli occupied west bank. israeli medics say two people died and more than 150 people were injured. wow, that is shocking to see.

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the department of education is investigating the use unregulated of air cleaning devices used to kill covid particles after experts warn the machines are not only ineffective, but could be harming students' health. an exclusive nbc report dives into how at least 250 public schools nationwide have spent hundreds of millions of federal dollars on these devices since this pandemic began. with me in this exclusive reporting is nbc's heidi perez bella. >> yasmin, good to see you. they differ from traditional hepa filters actually recommended by the cdc in that they're releasing negative ions into the air which experts say could create harmful chemical reaction, including ozone and formaldehyde. there's not independent research showing these things are

effective and they aren't harmful. i spoke with one concerned father who said he's concerned that schools which are flushed with billions in covid relief money are just not making the right decision when they're approached and hard-sold by these companies. take a listen. >> these systems are, a, unproven and potentially dangerous. they can generate things like ozone. ozone has been known to impact children's breathing, impact asthma and cause other sort of respiratory issues. >> this wasn't a small purchase? >> this was not a small purchase. they ended up spending about $1.4 billion on these ionizers. we could likely be creating the next health crisis in our schools. once we get beyond the pandemic,

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"politics nation." tonight's lead, your lying eyes. right now a conclusion that seemed forgone to rational americans four months ago is just now being reached by congressional republicans, and that is the idea that the most visible act of right week terror in a generation should be reckoned with, even if it makes the current gop look worse. just as soon as it was announced that a congressional bill to establish a bipartisan january 6th investigative committee could see a volt as early as this week, the top republican in congress began undermining the effort by trying to rope and tie racists into the same fold as the insurrectionists that carried confederate flags through the halls of