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criminal territory now as they look into his business empire. straight ahead we're looking at what prosecutors are focusing on. the timing behind the move, the legal trouble, and the new reaction just into us this morning. we're live on capitol hill. a vote in the house scheduled today on whether or not to create a bipartisan 9/11 style commission to look at what lead to the riot. gop leadership urging republicans to vote no, but not everyone agrees. the whip count and the cracks forming in realtime in the gop coalition. i'm with pete williams and cynthia oxney. let me start with you and this dramatic development from overnight. new york's attorney general now pursuing a criminal investigation. the question is whether or not
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this will be significant from a legal perspective and so we're not not sure we fully understand here. that is not normally what he does and in the meantime they were conducting a criminal investigation. thousand the attorney general's office says it's informed the trump organization. here is the statement, we informed the rump organization that they are no longer purely civil in nature, but we are investigating them in a criminal capacity. so the da investigation is much further g. they got a big boost in figure when they said they could not duck the subpoenas from the trump organization. they brought in extra brain
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power to power. they are subpoenaing people, and we think this means that doing the civil investigation the attorney general's office came over some evidence that could suggest is a crime but is now being folded into the da's office. so the big exposure for the trump organization is the da investigation. this adds another arm to that investigation. >> cynthia, let's backtrack a little bit into what this revolves around. it is related to final matters and some of it stems back from michael cohen. according to a source familiar with that and the allegations he made in front of congress that irn correctly stated his assets
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and overinflated his work on some official documents. >> first just a quick house keeping matter. i was in the brooklyn da not the the manhattan. we know that she has been financing wall street and also a building in west chester. but what you have to think about is there is three buckets of investigation. it really trillion has a value. and what you say the value is for the purpose of taking deductions. she is looking at the differences of those to see if there is a and eric trump gave a civil case. he has give an sworn statement
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in the case as have the real estate lawyer. as did the lawyer with the west chester county deal and it increases the case dramatically. this is a strategy of a baseball bat to the gut. >> you mentioned that eric trump is telling nbc news, i should say, no comment other than tending a video montage to one of my colleagues that is essentially the new york attorney general and comments she made in 2018 in her campaign among them calling the former president an illegitimate president, criticizing the former president, do you think that could have any implications here for a case she might bring forward? and you know that the investigation has been called largely political.
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they called the attorney general's office a political bludgeoning tool. >> they said things about each other and i don't think they're helpful, but they won't make a difference if there is an indictment. >> pete, thb is not the only potential legal issue facing the president. he faces a slew of other lawsuits, right? >> there s a general investigation going on in georgia into the phone calls of election officials. there are three lawsuits here over the capitol riots. two filed by members of congress. two by former capitol police officers. defamation lawsuits, three people are suing him against the
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marketing scheme for the "the apprentice." the former president is making news on another front. putting out a statement pushing the gop to vote against the 9/11 style commission to look into the january 6th riots. kevin mccarthy recommending a no vote but there is a possibility for potential defections. garrett, let me start with you. no drama when it comes to the outcome of this vote, right? we know it is all but certain, i should say, that the democrats in control of the house will vote in favor of this but we're looking to see how many and which republicans break off from their party to join them. >> there is little drama to the idea that this commission will pass today with almost, if not
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every single democrat expected to report it and some number of republicans. that number really matters a great deal. we know the problem solvers caucus said they're on board with that. that includes at least a dozen house republicans. there is some overlap. folks like liz whenny expect to support this commission. so you're looking at 15 to as high as 40 house republicans that may defy leadership in favor of this commission. that's why you see kevin mccarthy and the whip, scalise putting out statements on this. they were on fox news prime time, a method of speaking to them to encourage them to oppose this. >> what is next for the
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commission after this vote today? >> senate majority leader chum schumer said he would bring it to the floor for a vote. they said the search for ten republicans is on. mitch mcconnell told reporters that the conference is undecided. they had an extensive conversation about it at their closed door lunch. they had v conversations with the commission as it currently stands. mcconnell is not talking as much about the scope of the commission any more. instead he is talking about the equal power of republican and wanting the deadline to be at the end of the year. we know the main priority is to win back majority of the senate in the 2022 elections. but he also advised his members
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to keep their powder dry for at least the time being and that's what we're hearing from most rank and file members but there are some cracks already. they told cleels they want to see this can commission. he doesn't want january 6th swiped under the buss. so we're watching where republicans stand and reading the tea leaves of what mcconnell says going forward. . >> this morning on capitol hill, thank you. we're going to go inside talks on the hill. and dust off your passport. europe reopening borders to vaccinated americans. when and what other rules you need to know, next. and new york is a reopening in the making. the part of the country one
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so right now you're looking live at capitol hill where director worinski will be testifying. it's the first time since the new mask guidance. the one that seemed to give people more confusion than clarity. today new york will lift it's indoor mask mandate for people fully vaccinated. also breaking this morning the eu getting ready to announce the easing of restrictions. so let's start with this move this morning byheeu. does this mean that all of us can start planning our summer vacations to europe at this point? hey, look, it depends on where
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you want to go, right? one way to look at this announcement is that it is after a numb of forces already got out. they say states should consider lifting restrictions for fully vaccinated travelers if you have received one of the approved vaccines. johnson and johnson, pfizer, moderna. and 27 states are going to retain power to sweep entry requirements. they can require a pcr test in addition to a vaccine. this is early days, we don't have a time line on this and there is a lot of pressure. the travel industry requires
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this, right? remember a lot of europe has it will take some time. it will be a tremendous. getting travel going again, it's a huge part of their economies. so while we don't have dates, if you're an american at home thinking am i going to be able to go to europe this summer, if you're vaccinated the answer is probably. so dust off that passport. >> that's not bad news for a lot of folks, new jersey lifting a lot of restrictions today. what are people telling you? >> yeah, new jersey lifting some restrictions but they are keeping the indoor mask mandate and the indoor social distancing rules in place regardless of
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whether or not you're vaccinated. new york, kentucky, pennsylvania, the governor here saying that they need to make sure that it doesn't not lead the state to a confusing and winding path. some of these business owners that as you know had to make tough decisions through this pandemic. this cafe behind me here, they say they're not opening their indoor space at all in the wake of this announcement. i have been talking to customers here and there is quite a mix of opinions. take a listen to some of what we heard. >> we think it is better to be safe than story. it would be nice to get back to
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norm. i'm more comfortable taking my mask off inside. >> and one theme we have been hearing across the board is confusion especially when in new jersey there are parts of the river front where you can get a beautiful view. at this point today they have very different rules. a lot of folks confused about what they should be doing when. and they feel like that cdc guidance came quite suddenly. >> thank you to the both of you. coming up on the show, we're live in israel. we're getting new details of another phone call today this is coming in just as we were in ta last segment. details on that conversation. t n
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just in from the white house, a call between president
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biden and president benjamin netanyahu. the president conveyed to the prime minister he expected a significant deescalation today. this is the strongest language made public so far from president biden on this. it comes as we're learning six more people were killed today. that resolution drafted by trans, no word yet on if they come back in. martin fletcher is in tel aviv. >> tell us what you're seeing there there is a growing sense there in the international community. >> yeah, there is a growing sense of community. from gaza to israel, an added element this afternoon for the
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third time rockets have flying. nobody killed or wounded. israel already responded and the question is who fired those rockets? was it palestinians or was it hezbollah extending the battle. it doesn't look like it is hezbollah. there is no immediate extension of the conflict so that is what makes the question of the cease fire so urgent. there is definitely an increasing pressure on israel. president biden's words were much sharper. we know they are putting pressure on israel. there is fear that the hostilities could spread partly. the growing pressure on israel
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and hamas and we heard that the security cabinet may be meeting and they will success the negotiations for a cease fire. a possible cease fire, but the idea that they would agree on the terms very quickly is pretty much out of the question. >> what about the political landscape there what is the prime minister dealing with on the domestic front? >> he has been fighting to keep his seat for the last two years really. there has been four elections and before the fighting began, he knew he could be on his way out. that pretty much fell apart because of the figging and now the whole question is will they success in keeping the seat despite the accusations, the trial against him, of
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corruption. will there will be a fifth election? all of this is happening at the same time. it is a lot on the plate of the ooiz raily political leaders. and the fear is that net ya hue is making some decisions with the conflict and frankly not go to jail. all of this adds to the pressure to achieve a cease fire as quickly as possible. >> martin, thank you so much for your reporting. coming up here on the show, the da saying the shooting of andrew brown was justified, and in louisville, lester holt goes one on one with him there.
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back o capitol hill a scramble for the republican party to pick a side for or against the january 6th commission. it also means for or against kevin mccarthy after his announcement that he is opposing that bipartisan commission. with me now a democratic congresswoman of michigan. thank you for being back on the show, good morning. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you make of this republican scramble right now? >> i think it is interesting and i think frankly it's healthy. representative johnson capco did this in good faith. i read it and it is cut and
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peace from the 9/11 commission. so it is really hard, i think, to be against it nms it is purely political and playing to the base. and we'll see. i know at least in my mind at least 25 republicans are going to vote for it and i hope it is more than that. >> do you think that for the memps that do not identify at democrats that this commission, and this vote, should have significant republican support in order for those americans to be able to see this as legitimate? >> absolutely. in the beginning of the negotiations there was a proposal frankly from the democratic side that said we should have seven democrats and four republicans. i was against that a lot of us were against that. what is the point of the commission? it's not talk to about it inside the belt way, it's to do what the 9/11 commission did. it became a soft copy book you could buy it in the airport and
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the newsstand. they made a graphic novel out of it. kids understand what happened on 9/11 now even though they weren't alive because of the way they got that information out. it helps us prevent that kind of thing from happening again. so the audience is not just a political conservation, it should be to get the message out and buy in from the beginning. >> to truly understand what happened and get to the root of it do you believe former president donald trump should be called to testify or answer questions in front of this commission? >> i think he plays a role in it. there is no doubt about it. we had a conversation in congress already back in january and i think anyone with a role, let the facts fall where they may, same thing with 9/11. hard things happened, the cia and the fbi weren't talking to each other and so we missed things. the best thing to do is
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acknowledge our problems and figure out how to fix them and the president was part of that conversation absolutely. >> i'm sure you have seen the breaking news developing this morning that the new york attorney general's office is saying they're now conducting a criminal investigation into the trump investigation. it is potentially significantly important. what is the implications of that? >> i think we're a nation of rules and laws. while lots of senior leaders don't believe that, they are trying to win a culture war, there are rules and laws in america and everyone is subject to them. i think it is a mistake to tie themes to one person, one man, one ideology. and i think you are starting to see in these very public fizz your that's there are some who are trying to reclaim the mantle
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of the party. what are the ideas? can we have a real dewait about the different role of government in our life. you can't just not believe in rules and laws. it's a bad path to go down. >> i want to get you on a topic that we just discussed and that is the conflict unfolding as we speak right now. president biden had another conversation with prime minister netanyahu in israel using some of his strongest language yet saying he wants to see a significant deescalation today. is the biden administration do enough? is the president doing enough? what more do you want to see from him on this front? >> when you have an ally relationship across the country you try to have the hard conversations privately. you try to use that longstanding generational relationship to do the business away from the media and the public eye. at a certain point when you
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disagree it rises to the surface. it becomes more public, and i think that is what you have seen steadily in the past week to the point where the biden administration is calling to see something today. i think democracies have a special responsibility for proportional response. and it's getting harder to look at the situation and say it is truly a proportional response. so i think you're starting to see that debate come forward into the media and unfortunately i think that is appropriate right now. >> congresswoman, thank you for joining us and for your perspective this morning. we hope to have you back. >> look at the pictures of peaceful protests last night after they said the fatal police shooting of andrew brown junior was justified. it is shifting the
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accountability conversations. lester holt takes us to louisville kentucky where a controversial pick for police chief is being overshadowed now after the death of breonna taylor. >> a new chief determined to make change in the police department. >> i know there is, i employ human beings. they come to the table, they get inherent biases. that's not to say that police are racist. i think what happens is we focus on the end result and not the process. >> a grieving mother determined not to allow her daughter's death at the hands of police go unpunished. >> i want them punished for
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murder because that's what it was. >> the shooting death of breonna taylor, gunned down by police in her own home as they execute ad no knock warn. it happened after taylor's boyfriend fired first thinking they were intruders. the tragedy exposing a festering wound in the city. today it is police departments under a justice department investigation focused on whether or not louisville metro police have engaged in systematic and unlawful behavior. her hiring controversial due to the police involved shooting of rashard brooks in atlanta where she was police chief and resigned. >> there has to be a very high level of professionalism in law enforcement which means holding people accountable. we can't just rationalize and
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tolerate our colleagues behavior. >> a self described reformer that welcomes the federal investigation. i think that is fantastic. that being said it's really important to me that when they conclude their report in six to nine months we have things on track and we can stand behind the work we're doing. >> some say the tension and distrust has long existed fuelled by decades of racism and segregation. this is the 9th street divide. it's known as a physical and economic separation of west louisville, a mostly black community, from the rest of the city. a symbolic racial divide. more involved around 50% of the police use of force extents. >> breonna taylor's mom is still
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calling for accountability. >> is trust too high of a bar or is this something, another middle ground, that the community can achieve with police. >> it will be a long time before we get to trust. it won't be one or two things that will make it simply be better. >> do you hope that in some way her ket and police reforms here could be a model? >> definitely. i think that everything we have been through and just the way that this played out in front of the world it will have to be a model and people will have to use the situation to make things better everywhere. >> coming up here on the show, a
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americans have been waiting more than a year to ditch their masks, but some don't want to wait any longer and staged a maskless protest on the house floor. look at your screen, you see where some of them are here. some of them got into it, but democrat, jamie raskin, who just informed them they're just like 21st century freedom writers, john lewis would be so proud. three of them were fined $500 with one of them telling reporters it was the best $500 he every spent. what many of them will not tell reporters is whether or not they have been vaccinated and if they are compliant on the rules going
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without masks. so this could be scene as a stunt, right? for republicans that that do things on occasion to get attention. it's also an example of the politics playing out across the country. nancy pelosi just addressed this. and now kevin mccarthy is going to take the tight to her, where does this go? >> it is a little bit of a publicity stunt. i'm thorough marjorie taylor green will fundraise from this. they this this is read meat for their base and they think more of america is on their side and they're fed up and ready to ditch the masks. i'm told that kevin mccarthy is going to try to take away the mask requirements.
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they have been clear they can't return back to normal life until republicans get vaccinations or at least are more forth coming about what their vaccination status is. do you think kevin mccarthy will have any success in what he is plaing to introduce? >> i don't think that democrats are going to back him even if privately some of them agree that they need to be lifted, relaxed, or loosened. but no one is going to really cross pelosi and the democratic party on this one. >> turns now to a blow up between the white house and hhs over exclusive reporting you saw here on this show. nbc news describing how migrant children held overnight on buses and at least one case for days before being sent to their family members. one source now tells nbc that
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the white house is livid with hhs over what happened. julia ainsley is here now, what does this say about how they think hhs is doing? >> they want to get to the bot. of this ak quickly as possible. primarily for how he handled the unaccompanied migrant situation. if you remember a month or two ago we were talking about the overcrowded border patrol facilities. there was no room to take the children in there. now because of nbc reporting, at least in one case we know a child was left there from saturday to wednesday before he got on a bus all of the way from dallas to seattle, now they want hhs to get to the bottom of this. apparently on this call it was very much conveyed they needed
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to take the responsibility themselves, not blame it on the contractor, and to try to do an investigations a quickly as possible and find out if this is the only place this is happening, why were they not only left on a bus, but the only place they could use the bathroom. there was no access to showers. they had meals in the buses. as soon as this came up, we heard a strong response from the white house. we heard a strong response saying they would do an investigation. we understand internally, the pressure is even higher for hhs to come up with answers and come up with those answers quickly. >> julia ainsley, excellent reporting. we appreciate it. coming up, what you need to know about your privacy when you send and spent money on venmo. the new statement from the white house just in this morning. the commander in chief set to speak at the u.s. coast guard
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saying they are under the thumb of donald trump. we know on the house side, kevin mccarthy urged his fellow republicans not to back that commission, setting up a showdown in hours. we will monitor what's happening. we will bring you updates throughout the morning. we turn to the intersection of politics plus tech. you might use venmo. you might use it to split the bill at a restaurant, pay the baby-sitter, donate to a fund-raiser. it's easy and everywhere. even apparently at the white house. with a new report uncovering what they say is president biden's venmo account. experts say it goes beyond the president with a warning to all of us. sending or spending money with the swipe of a finger takes almost no time. that's apparently about how long it took for buzzfeed to find president biden's secret account on the app. >> it took us less than i think ten minutes of looking to actually locate him.
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>> this is one of the reporters who discovered the accounts of nearly a dozen biden family members. a social web including children, grandchildren, senior white house officials and all of their contacts on venmo. the presidential presence a punch line. >> i didn't even know they had venmo on rotary phones. >> experts don't find it funny. it could prevent a security and privacy risk and highlights the exposure of the friends feature. >> i could access your friends list because that's wide open. venmo leaves that open. >> is there a way to make it not wide open? >> there's no way. it's permanently public. >> you can hide your transactions on venmo. you can't do the same with your friends list. why does that matter? knowing who other people associate could raise a red flag for someone who really needs security.
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theresa was the chief information officer in the george w. bush and warns, this affects more than just people who work in the west wing. >> it could be people who are going through a divorce, people who have been in stalking situations, live alone and worry about their physical safety and security. >> in a statement to nbc news, venmo says the safety and privacy of all is their top priority. they are evolving and strengthening the privacy measures to provide a safe, secure place to send and spend money. while you can't make your friend list private, you can get rid of your list all together if you want to by heading to your account, tap on your list, selecting each person and unfriending one by one. a few minutes that might pay off. the white house had not previously commented much on this until actually this morning. an official tells nbc news this.
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the buzzfeed saga reveals a too common situation. the biden administration intends to strengthen privacy protections so it's easier for people to keep their personal information to themselves. buzzfeed says account is no longer online that's tied to the president. one live look at the senate floor where mitch mcconnell is about to speak. after chuck schumer slammed republicans about that january 6th commission. this is a story you will see and hear about today. it's one of the stories driving the day. we will cover it right here. including on our twitter page. right now, craig melvin picks up our coverage as we speak. ♪♪ good wednesday morning to you. craig melvin here. this hour, we are watching and waiting for president biden to
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speak. this will be the president's first military commencement address. he is at the u.s. coast guard academy. we will take you there when it starts. also this hour, following breaking news in the middle east. the fighting raging in israel and gaza right now. the diplomatic pressure for a cease-fire is growing. the white house detailing the president's latest call with prime minister benjamin netanyahu using his strongest language so far. we are live in tel aviv with the latest there. also today, the house set to vote on a bipartisan commission to investigate the january 6th insurrection. when you hear bipartisan, you think this thing might get through without controversy. think again. the top republican in the house urging members to vote no. some of those members not necessarily falling in line though. in the upper chamber, we just
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heard from chuck schumer moments ago come out in favor of it. we expect to hear from mitch mcconnell any moment now. this hour, we will get insight from a man who knows congress better than most, former senate majority leader tom daschle will join me. we start now with the criminal investigation into the trump organization. it's a major escalation by new york attorney general james. she's been looking into the former president's organization since 2019. she had been looking into it as a civil appropriate. in a statement late last night her office confirmed it is no longer purely civil in nature. we are now actively investigating the trump organization in a criminal capacity. once again, senior white house correspondent hallie jackson is back. also with us is nbc's chief legal

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