bipartisan committee. and pressure for cease fire in the middle east as president biden tells israel's prime minister that the u.s. expects a major deescalation today. we're live in tel aviv ahead. and later, new york's attorney general announces a major escalation in its investigation into the trump organization. it is officially now a criminal inquiry. and why the agency went public with it, ahead. welcome to wednesday. it is "meet the press daily." i'm in for chuck todd. and republican leadership in both the house and senate have now come out in opposition to a bipartisan agreement to establish a commission to investigate the events surrounding the january 6

insurrection at the capitol. this is ahead of a vote in the house later today on that agreement which democrats are expected to have the votes to pass. but mcconnell's announcement that he is opposing the deal is significant because republicans can effectdifference effectively kill it in the senate. and this has been negotiated with the house homeland security committee.and this has been neg with the house homeland security committee. a similar bill was backed by dozens of house republicans. last night donald trump put out a statement calling for republicans to oppose a january 6 commission and this morning mitch mcconnell said this -- >> after careful consideration, i've made a decision to oppose the house democrats slanted and unbalanced proposal for another commission to study the events of january 6. there is, has been, and there

will continue to be no shortage, no shortage, of robust investigations by two separate branches of the federal government. it is not at all clear what new fact or additional investigation yet another commission could actually lay on top of existing efforts by law enforcement and congress. the facts have come out, and they will continue to come out. >> there are obviously many unanswered questions about the events surrounding january 6. especially with regard to trump's role in that day. and for mcconnell to now side with trump in opposing this commission, it stands in stark contrast to mcconnell's rebuke of the president after the insurrection. >> former president trump's actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful, disgraceful,

dereliction of duty. there is no question, none, that president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoing the events of the day. no question about it. the people who stormed this building believed that they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president. >> and joining me is leigh ann caldwell and also brendan buck. so we were watching very carefully to see what mcconnell would. what is your read on what it means, is it now a given that it can't pass the senate and is it possible that he may be open to something that just has a few small tweaks or do we think that this is essentially the end?

>> it will be very difficult for this to pass the senate now that mcconnell has come out against it. we're already seeing those signs of the rank and file republican senators following suit. for instance we were told yesterday that there needed to be a commission, that it shouldn't be swept -- january 6 shouldn't be swept under the regular. today he is saying that he isn't so sure that commission is necessary. and i spoke with senator tillis who was open yesterday but today he said that he would vote against it if it came up to a vote. so the fact that mccarthy and mcconnell have united against this will make it very difficult for those republicans who do think that commission is in fact neither, if there is perhaps any potential changes that are possible that could get republicans on board, i asked

mcconnell that this morning and he didn't answer that question. he continued to walk in silence. but it seems like there is 240 negotiation that could take place. there is a lot of concerns that republicans have. mote notably that the commission says that it would end by the end of the year and republicans are extremely concerned that this will bleed into next year which of course is a midterm election year and senator john thune indicated as much saying that it is not good for republicans to continue to be talking about january 6 when they need to be focusing on president biden especially as the midterm elections approach. >> and so why if mcconnell do you do this, are

they just worried about donald trump and being bad for republicans? >> i think that it is a lot of it. and also trying to get ahead of his conference. this is an investigation into the events of january 6, but by necessity, that is also an investigation into donald trump. and when you think about it that way, everything we've seen for the last four years should lead you to believe that republicans are not going to take that kind of vote. and i also do think that there is politics here. i think that the statement that the president put out last night that not so subtly ends with i hope leader mcconnell and leader mccarthy is listening was obviously a direct shot. it implied that i can crush you if i want to. not necessarily personally, but they have designs on taking back the house and senate. and donald trump is more than capable of ruining republican's elections. i think that he is implying that if you go the other way, i can

make things very difficult for you. and i don't think that mitch mcconnell's position is in any real trouble. but of course kevin mccarthy wants to make sure that he has the votes for speaker. so he is trying to keep donald trump on the reservation. so i do think that there is a lot of politics. republicans not wanting to vote to investigate donald trump but also trying to make sure that he doesn't come for them and ruin their chances of taking back congress. >> what is mccarthy's exposure here? there are been comments from liz cheney about what he may know, that he would not want to be accept subpoenaed by a commission. >> i don't think that mccarthy has anything to worry about. i think that donald trump was trying to get him do the right thing. again, the exposure here is donald trump and i'm sure that

he does not want to be put in a position of having to talk about what donald trump's state of mind was that day and what he did and didn't do. i think that kevin mccarthy has nothing to worry about personally. but it will end up becoming an investigation into donald trump. he doesn't want to be -- anyone close to that having to implicate donald trump in any crime. >> and so i think that we can play sound incapsulaing what we talking about here. >> and i think a lot of our members and i think this a true of a lot of house republicans want to be moving forward, not looking back ward and anything that gets us rehashing the 2020 election i think is a day lost on being able to draw contrast between us and the democrats left wing agenda. >> and so this language of

forward not back, but the reality is that did or didn't happen in the 2020 election is still a very live issue for especially republican voters because former president trump is trying to make it that way. and as cheney outlined, that raises a lot of questions in how voters will be able to trust the results. it is not as though ignoring this reality that donald trump presents for the four years that he was in office helps them. why are they expecting continuing to ignore it will give them a different outcome? >> they have practice a bet, they have made a bet that going the path the least resistance will be the most advantageous for republicans moving forward. and so they have a choice to make. do they anger the republican base who is fully loyal to the

former president or do they try to disenfranchise or not solidify the part of the base that is probably going to vote republican anyway. i just asked senator scott who is the head of the republican senate campaign committee about how this is going to play in the midterm elections. anhe insists that this is not an issue because people will care about jobs and schools being open and the border and what he said transgender children and what sports teams they play on and perhaps even abortion. and so they do not want this to be an issue. they want to focus on all of the things that they think are good for them. and one of the excuses tha republicans are saying, that it is anxious unfair commission. and democrats point out that it is almost identical to the

creation of the 9/11 commission nearly 20 years ago. >> and pretty stunning to suggest that, oh, perhaps we didn't learn anything new from that commission or that this commission wouldn't be difference in scope and significant. but that is where we are. thank you both very much for starting us off today. let's bring in congressman jason crow. he experienced firsthand the events of january 6. i'd like you to react to what you heard from the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who frankly laid a lot of the blame for insurrection at the feet of donald trump after the second impeachment vote and now seems to be saying none of that matters anymore. >> thanks for having me.

and what happens with both mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy, that their excuses constantly change. they come up with one excuse why they don't want to do the commission or address this. we address those issues. and then they come up with another one. it is kind of like that game, i don't know if you remember growing up, whac-a-mole where you hit one and another one comes up. and that is exactly what we're dealing with right here. and it continues and continues. but what mccarthy did was he ran out of excuses. and he counted on further delay by appointing one of his members. and he thought that partisanship and gridlock would continue. but we worked out a deal and so now he doesn't know what to do and so coming up with excuses to further delay it or to prevent

it from happening. >> so congressman, to that very point, i think that it is very important to underscore to our viewer what is this deal would do is set up a structure very similar to the 9/11 commission with people who are outside of government currently. evenly split. with subpoena power, yes, but with veto power for each side if they don't want to move forward with something like this. can you talk about how a commission that is set up with that would have more credibility or be able to come up with more new different information than any of the myriad investigations that are going on in different government departments? >> yeah, we've done this before. this is not rocket science. we're not reinventing the wheel here. we've done commissions like this before. and one of the reasons we do it is that we can draw upon outside experts and cast a broader net

for the look for things in a more holistic way. and we're trying to reinspire trust in government. and that is why a bipartisan commission of outside experts, not elected officials, not people running for office this next term, people that are kind of set apart from the regular day to day of capitol hill on politics and washington are drawn upon to do these investigations. and new jersey happened for a variety of reasons. but we the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing and so we addressed that. the commission identify those issues and we have not had a similar attack since then. that is what we're trying to accomplish here. we want to figure out what went wrong, make the changes that we need to make to make sure that it doesn't happen again. and that is what is really important. >> when this comes to the vote

on the house floor, how many of your republican colleagues will be on board with this and what will that tell you about whether this commission will eventually be convened? >> my crystal ball has been broken for a while. i've tried to predict but it hasn't worked out well. but there are over 30 republicans who submitted a bill that is almost exactly what we're dealing with right now. and the problem solvers caucus endorsed this bill too. so that means that there are at least 15 republicans that agreed with it at of 48 hours ago. so dozens of republicans have been on record of saying that let's do this. so we would expect them to be consistent with their beliefs and not bow to the pressure of donald trump and to exercise their independent obligation that they should do what is necessary in the best interests of the country.

>> so congressman, in the event that this commission actually does come to fruition, although this may be in the firmly in the realm of hypothetical, who would you like to see named to the commission? >> i won't start naming names. that would just complicate things even more. but there is a lot of tremendous civil servants, people that sent their life protecting our country and in law enforcement and intelligence and know this stuff really well. and it doesn't matter whether they have an r or d behind their name, they have served republican and democrat administrations over decades that i know could get the job done. >> all right. congressman crow, thanks for spending time with us today. we appreciate having you. and coming up next here, as president biden increases the pressure on prime minister netanyahu to end the violence, an israeli spokesman told andrea mitchell he sees no signs of it

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welcome back. as international calls for a ceasefire in the mideast grow and as the conflict stretches into its 10th day, president biden now using more forceful language in his latest phone call with benjamin netanyahu this morning. according to the white house, president biden made it clear he expected, defeat, a significant quota significant dedeescalatio. previously he had only indicated support to a ceasefire and end to the violence. benjamin netanyahu release the a statement saying that he is

determined to continue this operation until its objective is achieved. and in the meantime the violence and blood shed is continuing. according to the israeli army, hamas fired 50 rockets toward israel overnight and israel fired 120 missiles targeting the tunnel system used by hamas. and joining us know, our correspondents from the white house and from tel aviv. shannon, let me start with you. walk us through the nuance of what has changed here with the white house. they had been out there publicly saying, okay, we're kind of going to hold our cards close to the vest. the president has a long standing relationship with benjamin netanyahu, they have known each other for many years. and the phone calls is where the real work is getting done. so what is different today from say monday? >> obviously so much of this is

about the nuance and the language and how people are reading into it. now, there is the appearance certainly that the white house through public official channels and unofficial channels is trying to show increasing strength in calls to move toward a ceasefire with this language path toward a ceasefire and deescalation. there is an appearance in washington at least that the white house is trying to ratchet up the language here to some extent. but i think that it is important to also note that we have not heard from the president directly about this issue since sunday. and that was in pre-recorded remarks for a celebration that the white house was having then. president has had opportunities to talk about this, but he has

avoided it. he only addressed the conflict in passing when talking about representative tlaib and her family in the west ban. he did not take that visit to meet with arab-american leaders. he did not take that visit to meet with arab-american leaders. so the white house is putting out statements channeling the official language, but again, we have not really heard from the president directly on this in days. >> so martin fletcher, how is that affecting what is unfolding where you are on the ground in israel? >> there is a sense that israel needs to speed up its attacks on hamas. and i'm quoting the israeli security officials who are pushing the prime minister to continue to play for time if you like, continue the fight. they say that there are many more targets that they want to hit in gaza. and so netanyahu is under a severe pressure now from the united states to deescalate to

move towards a quick cease fire. at the same time, he is being pressured by his own military people to continue the fighting until they have really been able to weaken hamas to the extent that they can say moving forward israel succeeded, and it was a victory, they brought security in the future for their people. so that is the pressure that netanyahu is under from both sides. but i'd like to emphasize one thing. we talk about american pressure on israel to stop the firing. to work for cease fire. there is a question of hamas who started the firing from gaza. and the pressure seems to come from egyptians and other forces. so other elements are pressuring that has to agree to a ceasefire. and that seems to be in the works. there was some talk about a

ceasefire possibly as early as 6:00 local time tomorrow morning. and in fact egyptian security forces have been quoted as saying that they said that there was an agreement in principal by the two sides for a ceasefire, but it is difficult for anybody especially netanyahu to say that that is actually happening because they don't want to endanger the progress towards that cease fire. so we are hearing different things. on the one hand netanyahu saying that we'll keep fighting, we'll do what we need to do and take our time as long as it takes. on the other hand, we're hearing that there is a potential agreement according to the egyptian security forces. so everybody is playing it very closely to the chest. but the one clear thing is that pressure is growing very strongly on the israelis to initiate the cease fire possibly as early as tomorrow morning local time. >> so martin, i can just follow up oncease fire possibly as early as tomorrow morning local time.

>> so martin, i can just follow up on lefr prefers available to pressure on hamas? i understand the levers that the americans have to put pressure on. but what can the egyptians and others do to try to put pressure on hamas to ultimately end up in a ceasefire? >> well, it is financial. bottom line, it is financial. gaza depends on financial aid from other arab countries. and we always talk about israel closing the border with gaza, but actually egypt has a border with gaza too and that for the time being is closed as well. and so there is growing pressure within gaza among palestinians on hamas saying what are we getting from this is this most of the hamas fighters are way underground in the tunnels. when was the last time that you

saw hamas with a gun on the streets of gaza. i haven't seen that. so there is pressure within gaza on hamas to show something for their victory. the thing that we have to remember here, and i know i'm getting a exit geopolitical here, but hamas is supported by iran. iran wants this to continue because anybody fighting israel is doing the work of iran. and this is the bigger picture. the other question is that hezbollah and lebanon also backed by iran is looking closely at the pressure that is being placed on israel right now. will israel fold to pressure. will israel not achieve the goals that it wants militarily because it is under such pressure politically. does it mean that it is a weak point that hezbollah and iran can leverage from in the future. and i'm sure that the united

states as well is also considering. but we do need to fight the violence in gaza. so that is the political things in play. >> all right, stay safe out there. thank you both. and coming up next here, the new york attorney general's investigation into the trump organization is now a criminal inquiry. what changed, why the news just went public and what it means for the former president trump and his family. for the former president trump and his family this past year has felt like a long, long norwegian winter. but eventually, with spring comes rebirth. everything begins anew. and many of us realize a fundamental human need to connect with other like-minded people. welcome back to the world.

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returns. donald trump says it is a continuation of the greatest political witch hunt in the history of united states and there is nothing more corrupt that is in desperate certainly of a crime but make no mistake, this is what is happening here. and pete williams is joining me now. always good to see you. can you help us understand why the statement was put out when it was and i also have some questions about latisha james talked about this when she was running for the office that she now holds? >> here is our understanding of what is happening here. in the course of the civil investigation by the state attorney general's office, there was some evidence uncovered that could suggest possible evidence of a crime. so two lawyers from the attorney general he'll office, two assistant attorneys general have been cross designated to work

with cy vance's office in the criminal investigation. and so it is not that there are two parallel investigations both criminal investigations, it is really more that part of the a.g.'s investigation has sort of been peeled off and now part of the d.a.'s investigation. and whether that increases exposure for donald trump, we're not sure because we don't know precisely what they are looking at, whether it was something that they were already aware of or something new. and so it is not a brand new investigation. it is sort of a new potentially you new component of the d.a.'s investigation. and remember, the district attorney has been at this for a much longer time and got a big boost in february when trump finally ran out of legal options and his accountants had to turn over lots of financial records to the district attorney's office which has since had forensic accountants pouring over them.

>> yeah, pete, that is exactly what i was going to ask you about next. what kind of information could potentially come out of those tax returns that would impact the shift that we are seeing here? >> well, i don't know that they would impact the shift. and again, you know, without knowing what it is new that the a.g.'s folks are bringing to the d.a.'s investigation, we don't really know how this changes the picture if at all. but remember, the bottom line here for both of them, it all comes back to michael cohen's testimony before congress before he reported to prison, that trump would inflate the value of his holdings when he was trying to get loans and undervalue them when he was computing his taxes. and the question is, fundamentally, is that tax fraud, were banks defrauded. those questions. the payments. the hush money payments. all of that stuff. but we know from court filings that the district attorney's office investigation is much

broader than that, looking at other business practices of the trump organization. >> so to that point, what is the difference between the organization itself being the subject of a probe and the former president potentially being part of a probe? i mean, i realize that it may be a fine distinction. his family is also involved in running the organization. but what does it mean for the individuals involved here? >> it basically is who did what. organizations, corporations, are run by people. and so what people did what at what time and when, those are all the sort of questions that they will be looking at. some of that can be ascribed to the company itself and some to individuals. we know that the district attorney's office has sub subpoenaed officials of the trump organization and questioned them. and so it is hard to tell exactly where the division lines are. and so much of this we don't

though because it is all being conducted before a grachbd jury and of course that is supposed to be secret. >> all right. pete williams, thanks very much. quite a story to follow. let's turn now to arizona. and the fight other last year's election results is continuing. the state senate president announced that an audit of votes cast in maricopa county will continue despite demands from county officials most of whom are republican call it a sham. she says that it is to improve future elections, not relitigate the past. and keep in mind the audit is being conducted by a florida based form called cyber ninjas who echo donald trump's claims. coming up next, mask

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people have said that we moved too slow, too fast. we moved at the speed that the science gave us. we have encouraged that it be locally driven and the reason is because every county has different rates of disease and different rates of vaccination. welcome back. that was dr. rochelle walensky this morning defending the cdc's abrupt change in mask guidance for vaccinated people. this is as new york is turning the page on the pandemic removing most covid-19 restrictions starting today. businesses like restaurants, stores and gyms can go back to full capacity.

connecticut is doing the same. but while governor murphy of new jersey is lifting capacity restrictions, the mask mandate stays in place. chris jansing is in connecticut and sash a sha burns is in nink. and so chris, let me start but. what have you heard from people there trying to grapple with the sudden shift? >> yeah, it is sudden. but for businesses here in connecticut, this is a huge day because pretty much all of the covid restrictions that have been in place have now been lifted. take a look here at this brewery. this is midday, but these tables are socially distanced. and they don't have to be anymore. folks can come in, have as many

people as they want. and this is something that the governor says that we've earned it because the number of people getting vaccinated is up. about half of the population is vaccinated and the number of cases is down. and i guess you think of it as the more traditional businesses like this brewery or a restaurant, but also places like churches, they can fill those pews. sports stadium, they can fill those stands. and the folks around here are excited. they see the possibilities that this presents for them coming into the summer the one business owner put to me, it is a whole new day. >> i think that we'll give it roughly a month to see how it happens. see if there is any sort of a spike. and so our employees will still wear face masks and we'll ask people do it for at least a month and then reassess.

>> you see a future now? >> we do, 100%. >> so that is the confusion, right? they are allowed to lift the mask mandate if you are fully vaccinated but because it is on the honor system, places like there are still doing face masks required. and they want to gauge how comfortable their customers are, how comfortable their employees are. a lot of these small businesses are taking kind of a wait and see attitude. one actually did a survey and it was exactly about 50/50, 50% of their employees said i'm happy not to wear the mask and 50% said i want to keep it. so we're still in a phase where it is wait and see. >> an period of adjustment for everyone. a business owner it is even trickier. but things are different in new jersey. you've heard what chris just

reported there. and i know that you've been talking to folk on the ground there. what is different about where you are? >> yeah, very different story here in new jersey. diverging from its very nearby next door neighbors of connecticut and new york. i mean if i walk just a couple blocks here, i can get a beautiful view of new york city but here the indoor mask mandate is still in place along with in-door social distancing rules. new jersey just one of four states not adopting the new cdc standards yet. the governor saying that the goal is to prevent the state from back sliding as they drop any mask mandates. and as we've been talking about here, even people walking up and down the street, there is a divergence of opinions. some folks not wearing the mask outdoors, others still wearing the mask outside even though that mandate has been 4ri69ed. and as we've been talking to businesses, you know, they have

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anybody want to split a turkey leg? welcome back. many vaccinated americans are celebrating the cdc's guidance allowing them to take masks off indoors, but for a lot of people there are still a lot of questions and concerns surrounding the new guidelines. the new guidelines are even more complicated. that's because there is some evidence that suggest vaccinations might not be as potent for some people and might still be at high risk. this includes cancer patients, patients with hiv and autoimmune conditions. joining me is dr. jha. so nice to have you with us. how worried should people be who have these concerns, who are

immunocompromised, who perhaps worry that if they are vaccinated, they don't have as much protection as others, and how she had they be living their daily lives under these new cdc rules? >> kasie, thank you for having me back. people who are more immunocompromised probably are protected. there will be people who are severely immunocompromised, people who had transplants, who have therapy. if you're in one of those high groups where your immune system is not as robust, you need to be careful. my advice is to keep your mask on, be careful about social distancing. as more people get vaccinated, those people will be protected as well. one of the reasons we all need

to get vaccinated is to protect those among us who don't get the same immune response from the vaccine that others do. >> right. hopefully if community transmission rates are lower because of all of those reasons, then everyone has less reason to be concerned. dr. jha, my personal concern, too, here is i've got a child who is too small to wear a mask and who obviously has not been able to get a vaccine yet. and there are questions -- i mean, we've heard school age children should continue to mask until they're able to be vaccinated. in that scenario, what extra steps do parents of particularly small children who are vulnerable here, what should they do in their day-to-day lives, especially in areas where the mask mandates have been lifted? >> children who are too young to get vaccinated, it's reasonable to think about wearing a mask indoors, grocery stores and other places. really, this has to be driven by

lower transmission levels. in california it's much less of a concern. if you're thinking of a restaurant, or even in grocery stores, if your kid is really small, first of all, if they get infected, chances are they won't get very sick. secondly, we don't think infection rates will be very high in young kids as long as the community infection is low. you need to get on with your life and small children should do fine as long as we avoid high risk situations. >> that's very reassuring. in terms of those high risk situations, if you are immunocompromised and you're grappling with this challenge, how do you get your life ultimately back to normal? is this a fear you have that you're going to be living with forever? obviously i take your point that you have to rely on others to do the right thing, but that's still a lot to ask of people who are already going through all these difficult situations. >> it is, little.

the single best thing you can do is surround yourself with people who are vaccinated. that's probably the biggest and most helpful thing. that's another way of saying if there are people around you who are immunocompromised, please get vaccinated because they need you to get vaccinated. second, doing things outdoors remain exquisitely safe. there are very few instances of transmission, so being outdoors is very safe. if you are indoors, if there aren't large numbers of people who are vaccinated, i'm hoping that as more people get vaccinated, we really do get back to being able to live a relatively normal life. >> where does this leave companies, for example, that are trying to make decisions about whether to mandate vaccinations or not? the vaccine is still in an emergency use authorization, which i think has had some organizations more reluctant to require that their employees get

it, but that is potentially one thing that an immunocompromised figure might consider if they're trying to take a job or get back into the work force. what should companies be thinking about this? >> i've been talking to a lot of businesses about this. my message is relatively short. if you want to have a safe environment where people are not wearing masks and they're not socially distancing, you have to make sure everybody is vaccinated. it's that simple. if you want to protect your vulnerable employees who are immunocompromised, you have to make sure everyone else is vaccinated. it's really that simple. i'm not a ue scholar, but that is not a barrier. companies can still go ahead -- please don't take legal advice from me, so talk to a lawyer to make sure that's right, but from what i understand, companies can make these mandates and it's a good way to protect workers and customers.

>> dr. ashesh jha, thank you as always for your medical expertise. we'll make sure to make that distinction but thank you very much for your help today. we appreciate it. that is going to do it for us this hour. i'll be back tomorrow with "meet the press daily." and you can always catch me early at 5:00 a.m. don't go away. jeff bennet will continue after the break. tinue after the break. new dove men plant-based body wash is different. with plant-based cleansers... ...and moisturizers. for healthy and hydrated men's skin.

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i'm jeff bennet in for katy tur. we're waiting for nancy pelosi to speak in minutes responding to house minority leader kevin mccarthy's decision to vote against a commission on the investigation on the insurrection at the capitol. he, too,