our country may forget this history, but i cannot. i will not. and other survivors do not, and our descendants do not. >> she was given a standing ovation today. 107 years of age. ovation today, 170 years of age, she were cleaning houses until the age of 85, this was her first ever trip to washington. she and the others want to see reparations from the same city and state that for decades denied it ever happened, with a 100 anniversary now just 11 days away. that is our broadcast for this wednesday night with our thanks for being with us, on behalf of all our colleagues at the network of nbc news, goodnight. dnight >> thanks for joining us at this hour, whenever something comes up in washington that has to do with the u.s. capitol police, the police force that guards the capitol grounds in

that complex, you will often hear about it first from a congressman from ohio named tim ryan, the reason why he is very tuned into what is going on is because congressman ryan runs a committee in congress that specifically has responsibility for overseeing and funding the capital police. congressman tim ryan is the closest thing that congress has to a point person on that issue, on that police force. today, as that point person, with that expertise and experience, congressman ryan basically lost his mind a little bit. >> i want to thank the gentleman from new york in the other republicans who are supporting this and thank them for their bipartisanship, to the other 90% of our friends on the other side of the aisle, holy cow, incoherence. no idea what you're talking about, you guys chased the former secretary of state all over the country and spend

millions of dollars. we have people scaling the capital, hitting the capitol police with a lead pipes across the head and we can't get bipartisanship. what else has to happen in this country? cops -- this is a slap in the face to every cop in the united states. if we're gonna take on china, if we're gonna rebuild the country, if we're gonna reverse climate change, we need to political parties in this country that are both living in reality and you and one of them. i yield back my time. >> congressman tim ride we need to political parties in this country that are both living in reality and you ain't one of them. those sharp words today coming from him as the house actually did vote to approve a bipartisan commission to investigate what happened in the january 6th trump mob attack on the capitol. that vote took place tonight, all democrats voted for it

which itself is enough for it to pass with a majority vote in the house since democrats are in the majority in the house, they alone vote for something it will pass. but on the other side of the aisle, only 35 republicans saw fit to vote for it, the vast majority of republicans in the house voted against it. this coming after the republican leadership in the house whip their membership and told them all to vote no. it's interesting that there are 35 house republicans that defied the whip vote and voted yet anyway to spite what their leaders were telling them to do, but most house republicans voted no. this legislation to create the january 6th commission will now go to the senate and republican leaders there will also tell all republican senators to vote against it, republicans will filibuster the thing which means that it will require 60 vote majority to pass the senate which means that ten republican senators would have to cross over and vote with the democrats in order to make it happen. that will not happen. that will not happen on this, it won't happen on anything.

that could not happen on a vote to declare wednesday the day that proceeds thursday, it couldn't happen on a day to declare apple pie is a nice thing to eat. there is no circumstance that ten republican republicans are going to vote with democrats. especially not when they're leadership in congress and former president donald trump is putting out a statement telling them not to vote with the democrat on this. because that, most house republicans voting against it, and now most if not all senate republicans will vote against it, it means that there won't be a commission, a bipartisan commission to investigate how the trump mob came to attack the u.s. capital on january six to try to stop the certification of the presidential election. now, if republicans won't even vote for that, if they won't even vote to have a bipartisan, have democrat, have republican investigate this attack on this own workplace -- even mike pence is brother,

congressman pence, voted no to create this commission. the mob that attacked the capital was literally hunting for his brother because they wanted to murder him, they ran through the halls, smashing stuff yelling, hang mike pence. vice president pence hid under the stairwell until they could get him out of there, ahead of the mob looking for his blood. his own brother is not interested in any way to look what happened. that is where the republican party is on that issue. if they won't even supported bipartisan commission to look into that -- where the odds that republicans are going to run around in a significant number to support president biden's furch resilient comprehensive infrastructure bill? what are the odds of that? if the republicans are in negotiating good faith and trying to contribute to that legislation and agree that most of them, if not perfectly satisfied with it, at least satisfied enough to give it a try, do something for the

country -- really? what are the odds? they won't even vote for the january six commission. they won't even vote for the infrastructure. it's impossible to divided by zero, so don't try to do the actual math on those odds. the bottom line answer is that it is not going to happen. today that led to my favorite twin set of headlines in the news. stacked on top of each other like an under sweater and an over sweater on political.com, were these two headlines first one, clock ticking on biden i second republican infrastructure meeting yields a little progress. followed by this one, liberals to biden, ditch the infrastructure talk with republicans. yes. if the clock is in fact taking, and it is, and now weeks have been wasted while the democrats and the biden administration talk with republicans about infrastructure with no meaningful progress made toward anything that republicans will fold for.

then why are you doing this? continuing to spend time meeting with them and talking with them is just throwing away the time that you have to get stuff done and make it less likely that you will be able to get anything done as all. the best case, the best case and there is at biden's party gets a few republican vote, four things the democrats could've just passed on their own. the worst-case scenario is that the republicans successfully waste enough time that they scuttle the whole effort. adam green from the progressive committee says quote, the only two scenarios for democrats are go big or get nothing. get nothing by continuing to waste time talking with republicans about their ideas to make the legislation weaker and worse, while they stretchy these things out as long as possible to try to run out the clock when in the end they

won't vote for it anyway. certainly not insignificant enough numbers to make a difference. honestly, they're not even gonna vote for the commission to see would happen on general six. a mob was work -- they're not even interested in looking in that, they're not going to vote for infrastructure. now liberals both the progressive caucus in the house, individual liberal senators and progressive groups on the outside are all speaking on that, basically with one vote -- sorry, one voice. stop wasting time. we will see if this is just the focus idle for the biden white house and the democratic leadership, but the progressive, at least, are loudly and uniformly pushing to stop wasting time with the republicans and instead get some stuff done with democratic votes only. now, among democrats, there is lots of interesting other policy fights right now. there is an interesting

question right now as to whether it might be possible for progressives in congress to scuttle a long planned 7 million arms sale to israel's military, given what's israel's military is doing right now to the palestinians with the weapons that you have. the united states government remains in this untenable place when it comes to the israeli airstrikes and attacks that have now killed hundreds of palestinian people including lots of kids. the white house says that in its fourth call with israeli prime minister, president biden told netanyahu that he expects israel to start the escalating now, on a way to a cease-fire. israel shows no signs of doing that and indeed is saying publicly and insistently that they won't do any such thing. to the extent that they're influenced at all by what the u.s. president or government purports to want, it is hard to believe that israel sees any real meaning but hide president

biden's tough talk to netanyahu when the white house is pressuring democrats in congress to not scuttle the arm skill to israel, which seems like it will still be going forward in the middle of the crisis when we see what israel is doing with its military force. it has now been for attempts by the u.s. security council to put out some kind of statement calling for an end to the use of force, and entities two weeks of crisis and death in israel in the palestinian territories. the reason the security council hasn't been able to release a statement like that even after what is four tries, even after hundreds of airstrikes, even after hundreds dead, is because of one simple thing. security councils have to be unanimous, and the united states government alone, won't allow it to happen. the u.s. government standing alone at the security council blocking that body from calling for an end of the fighting. basically because of the perception that a statement like that might be seen as calling on israel to do

something they do not want to do. so the world, rightfully, judges us by what we do not just by would we say, that is a good principle in general. but that means that even if the white house keeps telling us that president biden is speaking sternly with israel about this massive use of force against the palestinians, our actions speak larger than any of those words. the u.s. position remains basically half hearted and therefore pointless. the fighting continues, the republicans are essentially absent in any important way from that discussion and debate as well. the thing to watch here is the progressives versus the old school democrats as the white house tries to figure out whether it is going to try to pursue a more coherent policy, one direction or the other. saying one thing, saying your words mean one thing while you're acting a totally different way isn't going to move anybody in either direction. so we're watching all of these

things develop, these are all developing stories. we're watching of course for developments in the bombshell store that broke right at the end of our show last night that new york's attorney general, that office is investigation into the company run by former president trump, that investigation is no longer just a civil investigation it is now a criminal one. there's been a lot of speculation in the 24 hours since that news broke late last night. a lot of speculation about what that means for president trump 's legal exposure, what it means for how much this case is moving, this would now count, effectively, as the third known active criminal investigation into former president trump. but as with all active criminal investigations, you never really know what is happening until prosecutors get far enough that they bring charges, get a warrant for an arrest and turn up in court to lay out what they've got to make their case. in this instance the closest thing we can get to understanding with this new criminal probe for former president donald trump is, what

it is based on and how serious it might be, the closest thing we can get to that, i think, is to get as clear as we can about the evidence that is available to the attorney general in this case. what has the attorney general's office been looking at? what has her office had to work with in terms of evidence about the former president and his company that led them to switch this from just a civil case to now also a criminal case? the investigative reporter who got much of that material, who knows more than anyone outside of the prosecutors office what's exactly they've got to base their case on, that pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter joins us here exclusively tonight, i am very much looking for to that discussion. we're watching all of that. we're also watching a breaking news story tonight that i have to tell you is disturbing. i will warn you now that what i am about to describe, some of it will be hard to hear, i would also warn you that i'm

going to play some tape in a couple of minutes that some people will find hard to watch, i certainly did. but when this story broke today, even though there are stories of this type that breaks of the time, this one seems to stop the news in its tracks, certainly for everybody who works in this show, it stopped us in our tracks. you can't really move on when you've seen something like this. what this is about is something that happened in louisiana just over two years ago, it happened in the early hours of may 10th 2019, in west one roadways yonit there's a hospital there and that night may tenth in 2019, the emergency room at the hospital received an ambulance in the ambulance held a 49-year-old man who was handcuffed to a gurney, he was already deceased when the ambulance pulled into the medical center and wielded him into the icu, and the police

that night told the emergency room doctor who was attending this ambulance at the man who was dead in the ambulance had died on impact when he crashed his car into a tree, that was the explanation for why this man was dead when he arrived at the er and the doctor examined the body, examine the man who's been run in the ambulance and noted in his doctors notes that the man was covered in blood and covered in bruises. but he also noted that the man had to taser prongs hanging out of his back. >> wait a minute? this is supposed to be a car crash casualty. you're saying he crashed into a tree and died on impact. but did the tree tase him after he hit it? the er doctor noted all of this in his notes and actually wrote in his notes that night. he wrote quote, does not add up. because right, it did not add up. and yet, that really was the official explanation that

louisiana state police try to go with. for how a 49 year old barber in west monroe louisiana name ronald greene, that's the story they try to tell about how he died that night. louisiana state police told mr. greene's that he died when he crashed his car. 2% they try to pull him over for some unspecified traffic violation, shortly after midnight. 30 miles south of the arkansas state line, outside monroe. they said he died on impact when he crashed into a tree. it to the er doctor pointing out the teaser prong still hanging out of his back. it took mr. greene's family filing a wrongful death suit for police to admit that yes, okay something else might have happened. they can't come up with an explanation for how the tree fired those taser prongs into him. police released a one page new report with a new explanation that said, greene was taken into custody after resisting arrest. and he struggled with troopers. and then inexplicably he became

quote, unresponsive. became unresponsive and died on his way to hospital. the report did not describe any use of force by the troopers in this instance. and that was literally all the louisiana state police said about the death of ronald greene. best olive ever said. but to this day, two years later, the louisiana state police have given no further explanation of ronald greene's in their custody. crucially, all this time they have refused to release the troopers body cam footage from that night. it took 474 days after mr. greene died for the state police to even open an internal investigation into what happened. and that was only when their hand was forced. a summer of police over the police murder of george floyd in minneapolis, had put the spotlight back on cases like mr. greene's. perhaps more personally, in terms of seeing what impact it might have, mr. greene's family also took the radical step of releasing graphic photos to the

public. in an effort to demonstrate to the public that the police explanation of what killed ronald greene was a ridiculous explanation. they released photos of the condition of the body when they received it. they showed deep bruises, deep cuts to ronald greene's face and scalp. they also showed his vehicle. they released a photo of his vehicle. it's the car he had been driving the night that he died. a sure the car was only mildly damage. airbags hadn't deployed. this was in a car that had been involved in metoo your crash that had mortally ruined idiots driver. amidst all of this, the justice department announced they opened up and civil rights investigation into ronald greene's. can you imagine how bad a case has to look that the justice department has to look into it? still, the louisiana state police would not say anything else about ronald greene's death. wouldn't release body cam footage, wouldn't afford any other explanation of what

happened. last september, they finally decided to fire one of the officers that was involved in mr. green's death. although they would not see why they were firing him. tragically, that officer died in a single vehicle car crash just hours after he was told that he was fired. days later, the associated press obtained audio of that same officer describing how he beat and chokes ronald greene the night of his death. on a recording from his body cam microphone, that officer who was in the car crash, was her telling somebody very matter-of-factly that he quote, be the ever living f out of ronald greene. he said quote, choked him and everything else. he was spitting blood everywhere and all the sudden he just went limp. after that horrifying reporting, greene's formally, was finally after a year and a half, allowed to see the body cam footage from the night he died. the families attorney said the mother and sister willed like they were a funeral, when they

finally saw the footage. he said it was damning footage that showed the troopers choking and beating ronald greene. repeatedly jolting him with tasers. dragging can face down across the pavement. the attorney, lee merritt, who also watch the footage, two of the associated press this found this quote, been light to the entire time. the video is very difficult to watch. it is one of those videos like george floyd and even ahmaud arbery, where it's just so geographic. today what happened, is that today we learned to our collective horror, that the attorney for the greene family was right when he described it that way. because today the associated press obtained and published edited excerpts from the louisiana state troopers body cam footage from the night that ronald greene died. and i will tell you that they stopped the news today for a reason. i'm going to show you some of what the ap published today. as i said, it is not a pleasure to watch. that is a grave understatement. it is a understood it is

disturbing to. watch and the nightmarish nature of the video of this incident is compounded by how long all of this was kept secret. how blatantly state troopers lied about what really happened. there is something even worse about the fact that we are only seeing this footage more than two years after the fact. and not because the police finally decided to release it. but because a delegate reporter from the associated press was finally able to get it, and that's the only reason it has come out. again, it is more years than two years after it happened. and they have had this all the time. so here's the first day of video we are going to play tonight. this is when police approach ronald greene's car. they have been chasing him. the chase has come to an end. i'll tell you again, this footage is excerpt and edited by the associated press. we don't have the rotate. the full footage they obtained is 46 minutes long. the say there is long footage where -- the troopers whose body cam footage there is appears to cut the microphone off halfway through. that makes it hard to discern

halfway through. the ap itself is cautioning that can be difficult to piece together what is happening. at all times. but in some of it, it is clear. like in this clip were police foot first approach ronald greene's car. it appears he is not ruffled this thing and in fact is pleading with the troopers. >> let me see your hands! come here -- >> okay. okay. >> oh lord, jesus. >> let me see your hands! >> okay, i'll do it. i'm sorry. i'm scared. i'm sorry. officer, and scared. >>,. >> it says the officer, i'm scared, i'm your brother. i'm scared.

we also have another portion of the body cam video after the troopers had pushed greene out of the car. and you'll see mr. greene on the ground here appearing motionless while an officer teases him again. the officer then handcuffed him. mr. greene is clearly bloodied at this point. the officers, part of the reason we can confirm that, is that the officers commenting about the amount of his blood that they've got on them. and the fact that they are wiping it off themselves. >> officer then -- >> get on the ground by! >> taser, taser, taser! [inaudible] >> put your hands behind your back. >> get up here. get your arm! >> but all over. this guy doesn't have aids! >>

the ap tonight has posted one of the portion of the video. this portion doesn't have sound. we believe the trooper turned off the microphone on his body. can you can see their ronald greene handcuffed on the ground. the ap reports that later, after several minutes scratch on which ronald greene is not seen on camera, he appears again, limp unresponsive. bleeding from his head, leading from his face. he's unloading on to an ambulance gurney. his arm is cuff to the bed real. but here, what you will see is an officer putting leg shackles on him. and i'm not going to show this part, but what you can see in part of this video is the officer dragging mr. greene by those lake shackles, across the ground, face down. again, his handcuffs are on him, behind his back. his legs are shackled. he's faced down and limp. and they are dragging him by the leg shackles, face down, across the ground. now, the louisiana state police tonight, would not comment on the content of these videos.

except to say that the release of the video was not authorized. yes, tell us about it. they said the release of these videos would undermines the investigative process. how is that investigative process going? the officer who dragged ronald greene on his face by his leg shackles, he was suspended from duty for 50 hours. for that offense. 50 hours. another of the troopers is now on unpaid leave, but not for ronald greene's death. he and several other troopers from the same units were arrested a few months ago for beating up other black men in their custody. they were also discovered to be bragging to each other over text messages about the violence they have inflicted on black men they have arrested. but there's also the federal investigation into ronald greene's death. there's also the families lawsuit against the state police. does publication of this gut

wrenching video today, get ronald greene's family any closer to justice? joining us now is lee merritt. he's an attorney for ronald greene's family. thank you for being here. tonight i know this has been a really intense day. >> thank you so much for having me. >> i know that this has been a long haul for the greene family already. it has been more than two years since mr. greene was killed. what sort of justice for the seeking? seeking? >> well, criminal accountability for every officer involved. and they also want to point towards a system, and rachel you can appreciate, the failures on every level of accountability. supervisors, prosecutor's, district attorneys who are supposed to look at this evidence, over the past two years. they have completely failed to take any serious actions for all of these officers and to hold him accountable. this behavior has been allowed

to continue to terrorize other members of the louisiana community. and the family of ronald greene has gotten no closure. so the release of this video moves us just a bit closer. >> now the state police responded to the release of this video tonight by saying it was an authorized. which, yeah, to state the obvious. part of what is difficult about this case is that they have added access to this for so long and consistently refused to release it. let me ask for you to respond to their assertion that the release of this tape is going to undermine ongoing investigative processes that will compromise any fair and impartial outcome of those investigations. is there any risk of that? >> no, they've had this opportunity to perform their investigation for two years. without any real oversight from the public. as the system is designed. transparency is an essential part of the system.

were officers who taxpayers pay, are held accountable to the constituency that they are supposed to serve. by releasing this video, it gives other members of the community an opportunity to identify the officers. to identify with the actions, to report other instances of abuse, and we have found their ample from this political cure trooper at the louisiana state police who had been notorious. the release of the video doesn't compromise the investigation. the investigation is probably going to see an honest attempt at doing justice and brings us a step closer to closure for this family. >> let me ask you about one aspect of this that is deeply and disturbingly reminiscent of the video footage of george floyd's death. which of course lit up the world, beyond just later got the country in outrage over the way that he was killed. i didn't show it at length.

we are again are relying on what the associated press has released. what they described and what these videotapes show, is apparently an incident that lasts more than nine minutes. where mr. ronald greene is faced down, shackled, handcuffed, unattended and basically unresponsive. that's part of what is going on for the time that the officers are spending time wiping his blood off of themselves. and talking to each other about the hope that the he doesn't have any infectious diseases, given the amount of his blood that they are bathed in. what should the officers have been doing during that nine-minute stretch of time? if he was dying during that nine-minute stretch of time, what were the officers trained to be doing at that time? >> hypothetically, every officer in the louisiana state police department knows -- and we all learned on the national level from the chauvin trial that you can't leave a

suspect who's been injured the way mr. greene had been injured and a prone position. they had a long time. as you mentioned, his legs and his arms were shackled behind his back. it's impossible to breathe and get in that position, given the repeated to his ring that he has endured. the brutal beatings around his head and body that he endured. and the mace that had already taken place. so, they left him in a position where he was -- where they have been trained to know that his ability to breathe is limited. and what they should've been doing of course, is rendering emergency aid. assuming that he suffered injuries in the car accident. as -- [inaudible] he they should have been giving him emergency aid for the vicious assault that they had just released on him.

>> he is the attorney for the family of green in this -- after two years, where he was killed by louisiana troopers, come back and keep us up to date with this case. i know this is a live issue. incredibly disturbing footage that we've seen tonight, please keep us up to date with how this develops. >> we'll do, thank you so much rachel for covering this and keeping the family and your prayers. >> we have much more to get to tonight. stay with us.

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time last night we got this startling news from the attorney general of new york state. that attorney general for the last two years has been leading an investigation into the conduct of former president donald trump's company, the trump organization. it's been a civil investigation meaning that the outcome of the organization had to worry about there was that the attorney general might, at the end of that investigation, choose to bring a lawsuit against trump's company, if the a.g. won that lawsuit and the company lost, the company and the executive including potentially president trump himself, worst-case scenario, they could be subject to some civil penalties. like fines and stuff. that horizon of possibility has changed considerably for them late last night, when the attorney generals office

confirmed in a statement that that investigation of the trump organization is no longer just a civil matter. some aspects of that civil investigation continues in the attorney generals office but there is at least some part of it that they have now converted into a criminal investigation. of course criminal penalties are a different things than civil penalties. the way the attorney generals office put it's a saintly is that the trump organization investigation is quote no longer purely civil in nature, we are not actively investigating the trump organization in a criminal capacity, along with the manhattan district attorney's office. that last bit is interesting. again this broke last night, cnn was first to break the news. it has gone the full core treatment by all the major news outlets. some of them had added new details. the new york times adding that the office is not conducting its own independent criminal investigation. they've handed the criminal part of it off to new york

state prosecutors at the manhattan district attorney's office. that office already has an active investigation of trump underway but now they've been preferred something else. they've been given some other piece of it that came out of the civil investigation into trump's business. two prosecutors from the attorney generals office are reporting we moving over to that da's office instead to help them with that criminal prosecution of whatever the a.g. found. the washington post for their part either that the trump organization was given a heads up about this criminal penalty in a written notice late last month which makes it interesting that the president himself, the former president, put out a long rather unhinged statement reacting with outrage to this news about the criminal investigation. apparently his business was told about it a long time ago. according to the -- criminality could apply to actions by current and former company executives and employees. of course, news of an

escalating criminal probe of the former president is a dramatic thing. we've never had a former president under criminal investigation before, ever. let alone a former president under criminal investigations in multiple jurisdictions for multiple different things, it is wild. it is also worth being specific about how this story just advanced. honestly, all we know for sure, is that in the course of its civil investigation into donald trump's business, the new york attorney generals office appears to have found something that looked criminal, to them, and serve they handed that part of it to the manhattan da's office to prosecute. that's all we know for sure. given that, we can tell more about house years that might be. we first learned about the attorney general civil investigation into trump's work through the new york times reporting in 2019. we've been able to figure out a

little more about what the investigators may have been looking at, potential bank fraud, tax fraud. and we've learned some specific details about how the investigation has been going, we know in october, former president trump son, eric trump, the blond one, sat for a deposition with the attorney general's team. following month in november we know the office issued subpoenas to the trump organization, seeking records related to consulting fees paid to president trump's daughter, ivanka. we know those subpoenas were issued as a result of groundbreaking investigative reporting done by susan craig, and other reporters at the new york times that got the story of the year when they got access to trump's long secret tax records. if the new york attorney generals office has now decided that they have found something potentially criminal in the evidence that they are looking at, something that ought to be prosecuted criminally, instead of just being prosecuted with a civil lawsuit, what could that be? how serious could the criminal

charges could be? else out of the investigative offices themselves, the one person, i know, who knows the potential evidence here better than anyone else is the person who dug it up, it's new york's time investigative reporter susanne craig who, along with her pulitzer prize-winning team with the new york times have made public more information about donald trump and his business finances than anybody else. suzanne joins us live here next. live here next >> since we've been on the air,

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ago and it's been handled by a small unit within the office that has authority to bring criminal charges. that's interesting, the idea of a criminal probe. being handled by the attorney generals office. because this news arrives as the attorney generals office last night has confirmed that some element of the offices ongoing civil investigation into the presidents business has been converted to a criminal matter. the new york times reported today that that part of the prosecution, whatever was converted from civil to criminal, will now be handled by state prosecutors in the manhattan da's office. cnn reporting tonight raising the prospect that -- criminal investigations related to the trump organization may now be simultaneously operating out of both offices? joining us now is susanne craig, investigative reporter for the new york times. she won the pulitzer prize for reporting on two decades worth of trump's flat tax files. suzanne, good to see you. thanks for being. here >> good to see you. >> i want your big picture

perspective of this story. since the news broke last night, there's been a lot of debate and speculation about what it means and how serious it is. given what you know of trump's tax documents and financial documents -- what you and your team have reported on. how serious do you think this is? what do you think is the most important thing about it? >> as you are reading that latest of element, i just thought wow, it sure is getting hot for the trump organization. there's a lot going on. is an escalation, the fact that they are now bringing it in a criminal aspect. the state is going to continue on a civil track, but they're also now going into a criminal area. and then separately, allen weisselberg is of interest to investigators both at the manhattan da's office and at the state level. i mean, you can kind of see this case is on track and heading towards something. >> what kind of timeline do you anticipate here? part of the reason we're all speculating is because

prosecutors haven't shown up in court, filed very many public documents that we can see. that would give us a public sense of what they are doing. that said, on the political timeline, the manhattan district attorney, the state prosecutor who appears to be handling this -- in new york he is now running for reelection and will be in office through the end of the year. it seems unlikely he would expect the case this began important to be handed off to his successor, after and he and his team have done years of work on it. does your affect your thinking in terms of how quickly this might move? >> it absolutely does. and i think the manhattan da, or anything will, make a decision whether to go ahead. and i think will probably see charges coming in the fall, before sevenzo, the manhattan da leaves office. there's a lot riding on this for him. and i think they are working full-time since they -- even before that. but particularly since february when they got not just the tax return information. but also tons of other documents that they got from

the accounting firm. actual information, financial statements, account notes. i think they're just trying to piece it together. but i think they're working around the clock on that sort of deadline. and i think the state as well, you're looking -- it just feels like they are at the end of something just with what they're doing. they're just making moves that would suggest there is at least a civil stuff is progressing. and they've been working on it for a year or two know as well. >> suzanne, given what you know, what you have reported about the financial behavior of president trump and his business -- and given what you are describing about what it seems like is happening in this investigation, what would a criminal indictment mean of a corporate entity, right? if the new york attorney generals office civil investigation turned up something that looked like a criminal matter and they founded that to the da now to

prosecute. maybe they've kept some of the criminal element of it itself. i knew a criminal ops prosecution of a person can be. on tax roth, insurance fraud, those kinds of things. i don't necessarily know what it means foreign entity, a corporate entity, to face a criminal indictment. >> we don't know yet what it looks like, if it is against a criminal entity corporate entity. for individuals, it could mean a trial and possible jail time. we don't know what track they are heading down and looking at and working at the food chain right now. individuals inside the trump organization. i think at a certain point, they're gonna have pressure on them to get them to talk about donald trump. that seems to be where it's going. and they're in that phase now putting pressure on ellen weisselberg, the longtime cfo of the trump organization. and possibly others within the trump organization. the accountant, main accountant that handles donald trump's tax stuff is also of interest and then that in the.

they've also had at least eric trump in for an interview. so there's a lot going on and we don't know where they are heading with it. who's being intrigued viewed. there's a real heat on a lot of people. >> susanne craig, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter on from the new york times. who has known more than anyone to shed light on what is going on in these criminal probes. suzanne, great to have you. thank you for being on. tonight >> great, good to see. you >> will be right back, stay with us. with us. imone biles? i guess? yessss! should we dismount now? [ heavy breathing ] allergies with nasal congestion overwhelming you? breathe more freely with powerful claritin-d. claritin-d improves nasal airflow two times more than the leading allergy spray at hour one. [ deep inhale ] claritin-d. get more airflow. ♪♪

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