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>> and as our colleague wrote, using the state to suppress this information is not going to work. thank you so much. thank you so very much. that does it for me. ari is back on monday. the "reid out" is joy reid is up next. good evening, everyone. happy friday. we begin the reid out tonight with a party that stands for nothing. and what point, republicans believed in helping the rich, tax cuts in regulation, and they believed in endless wars and family values. but now, in a trump dominated world, it's not clear what they stand for or what they are offer the american people, and exchange for one thing they clearly want. power, power for themselves, and it reminds me of the skin of street venders in the classic mel brooks comedy "history of
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the world part one". >> from the garbage of the rich, apple cores. >> rats, rats, rats for dead. perfect for rat stew, rat pie, and the ever popular, ratatouille. >> nothing. nothing. i got absolutely nothing for sale. >> all right, kudos to our producer for that. that is comedy. it's hilarious. but the reality is serious. politicians are not voting for money to fix your roads and bridges or make corporations pay taxes or help for child care or make it easier to vote, reform the police. the stuff that politics actually can do, they are using the power they have now to try to make it so you can't vote to replace them with politicians you
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prefer. if you're not of the party, you basically won't count anymore. even if you do vote, so what? we don't have to recognize that. we will throw that out. the power belongs to us and it will always belong to us. and don't take my word for it. listen to the number two republican john thume, the worst assault on the capitol since the war of 2812, that is not possible. >> i think a lot of our members and a lot of house republicans want to be moving forward, not looking backward, and you know, anything that gets us rehashing the 2020 election, i think, is a day lost on being able to draw contrast between us and the democrats very radical left wing agenda. >> okay, you heard that? real talk. the thirst for power is so intox
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katding it has infected the party from the top down we take possession of 145,000 ballots. they want to transport the ballots to a private company for an arizona style review. the judge said no. but will allow a digit cal review of the ballots in the custly of fulton election officials. none of this is going to change the election. biden will have won georgia back in 2020. if this isn't freaking you out, it should. because republicans are showing you they are willing -- they can just hand over your votes to their friends. they didn't like the results. if you didn't win sfar fair and square, change the results or doubt the results so lots of people won't view the winner of
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legitimate. let's go back to arizona where they have engaged in a months-long fishing expedition to taint biden to history. she might not be able to use the county to call the counting machines because she can't trust they are not tampered with. and in the bamboo sapor audit, before the chickens were incinerated. this could be funny if it won't so serious. it could cost arizona taxpayers $6 million. it's more shocking than funny. when a system veers away from democracy, there are no good places for it to go. the great merriam dictionary if
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he dines fascism, as political philosophy, regime that exists often race above the individual. forcible suppression of opposition. maybe by voter suppression or making elections just disappear. maybe violence, physically attacking the seat of government, all to exalt a supreme leader. not funny. joining me is katie hobbs, dean from sirius xm, and carlos robelo from florida. i have to start with you first. what happened can make you laugh and it scares the hell out of me. it's the future of what it looks like. how is it going to end. can it be ended? >> well, i hope it can end, and today, we saw maricopa county
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make the action to stop it. and having it continue is scary. as you have said, this is going to have impact in the future in future elections. we with not have this happen after elections. we have systems in place that are followed. the losers of elections are expected to see a loss. we have challenge periods that have passed. this is not sustainable. >> it's a bunch of victor ormonds. are you confident that if re-elected, this will not negate his re-election. this will not do done to say, no, we're not leaving, that this won't be done for individual republican members of the state house and senate to negate their own losses. if boaters say we want you done,
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we want you out? how do we know? >> absolutely. if we don't take action to stop this now, and to make it impossible to do in the future, i think that this is what's going to continue to happen. and the other long term consequence is that it's going to continue to under mine voter confidence in the systems, and that has the effect of suppressing turn out. among many other dangers to our democracy. >> let's me go to carlos. if this is happening in arizona, it's going to happen in florida. let's just keep it real. the florida legislature is far right wing. they have their own mini-trump in the governor's office. we expect however the election turns out in the midterms in 2022 the florida legislature will just declare it's invalid
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unless they win. >> we have a long history here of bipartisan election, and the trauma. the national leader in opening up voting, encouraging people to vote my mail. no excuse absentee voting. >> one second. i'm sorry. carlos, i have to stop you for a second there. we just had charlie crist on not long ago. after he allowed the voting lines to stay open in 2008, republicans were so angry with him, they damn near kicked him out of the party. they said we want to you pass restrictions on voting to make it harder for people to get in line to vote, and the new governor, the united states senator, dmam, and passed restrictions. the difference is florida made
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it edsier to bat absentee. that is how republicans vote. they have made it harder and harder and harder. they have gone after the early voting period. they have gone after every way that nonrepublicans vote. that isn't true, is it? >> well, joy, what i was going to say is that -- republicans -- former governor kris had extended voting hours. that is fresh in my memly. general speaking in the state of florida, the early voting periods have been long and giving people more students to vote than at least in other states. what i was going to say is the problem that i see in the last session, all of the election reforms were done in a partisan manner, and in a way that does worry a lot of people, and importantly, in the context of the big lie. in reaction to the big lie. so yes, i mean, i think we should be concerned.
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and equally as important a point you were making earlier, the republican party has really lost a coherent set of policies, a governing agenda. it's really about loyalty to one person, the former president, and liz cheney, has a perfect conservative voting record in the house, removed only because she refused to follow donald trump. >> yeah, and liz cheney, i want to talk a little about her, dean. because the other sort of piece of this movement of the republican party is that you don't have to be anyone serious. you just do to believe the big lie. you can go with a hot topic to find a date. you can do anything you want. here is the guy running against liz cheney. anthony bouchard. he had a relationship with a
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14-year-old girl and impregnated her when he was 18. the woman that he impregnated, he called it a romeo and juliet story, yeah, she's dead. she committed suicide. >> under florida law, it looks like statutory rape. but let's be honest, if the gops find the attack, what is statutory rape. and trump is banned on twitder, facebook. trump just let them be truly who they are. which is not a political party, an authoritarian party. i want people to get as angry
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about what they are doing in arizona and other states as they did on january 6th. bus that attack and these are the same. they are to end our democracy, and you saw it in another country. but in america, we are raised here, and you can't say there are fascist. it's a threat to the republic, it's a threat to the democracy. the stakes couldn't be higher. >> katie, you are dealing with this on the ground. i am hair on fire alarmed about it. do democrats understand the stakes here? we may not have elections anymore if this countries? >> absolutely, and i'm talking
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to folks every day, what can we do about this? and yeah, no, across the board, people are very concerned. they see the danger in this. you know, we saw what happened on january 6th. we should not be at this place right now. there is no guarantee that that's not going to happen again, and this kind of thing, just insights that. >> are you thinking act running for governor? is that true? >> you know, we have dealt with death threats and armed protestors around my house. and i continue to do a good job for the people of arizona. so i am seriously considering it. no matter the office i run for, i will continue to do the job they have elected know do, and ignore the noise from the extreme right. >> yeah, no, i'm sorry. go ahead. >> katiehobbs.org is where you learn more about me.
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>> got to get the website out. what scares me that might not matter. if republicans don't get the trifecta, if they are able to say, you can't vote, and if flay able to reaudit and say the votes don't count, it doesn't matter. >> and no, you can get the most votes but you don't get sworn in. it's not about the mote votes. democracy is a speed bump to the dreams of power. that is when we are dealing with right now. there have been experts that wrote about the gop before the election, and saying they reflect the government in hungary, and we have the republicans defending the attack, and was it an insurrection or not? it was a terrorist attack. we have to call it terrorism. >> we have to call it what it is. and don't think things that are happening in eastern europe can't happen here, and central
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america and around the world. we are just as vulnerable. katie hobbs, best of luck, dean, carlos, thank you very much. >> um next, a cease-fire between israel and hamas after hundreds of deaths, mostly palestinians and now we are seeing an increase in anti-semitic attacks. and the emasculation of america's military. the same guy who emasculates himself in public, and we have the receipts, and taraji p. henson is here. "the reid out" continues after this. t" continues after this my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement.
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remain. with overnight celebrations followed by a clash between protestors and israeli police in jerusalem's old city. authorities say molotov cocktails were thrown at police and 16 people were taken in custly. 243 palestinians were killed, including more than 65 chimpb, with israeli officials saying 12 people were killed by rocket fire. it's not new. the reason fighting has received a massive shift in how the conflict is perceived due to social media and younger generations, who feel sympathetic to the palestinian play. it's joe biden's real test. where the shifts in narrative have given the palestinians a
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voice, we are also seeing the impact play out in a particularly hideous way, in parts of europe and here in the u.s., with up take in vandalism, shared on social media, and fighting men fighting or attacking jewish men on the sidewalk. and a man was beaten. the nypd and l.a. pd saying it's investigating as hate crimes. the american tradition of targeting others, conflicts overseas that have nothing to do with him. joining me now is nbc news foreign correspondent in
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rosenberg, it's your first time on the show so i will go to you first. there is a way that is infuriating. and talk about the violence, we see it with anti-asian hate crimes, with immigrants around some of the previous president's rhetoric. talk about what is happening out there. >> yeah, one of the markers of being a minority, in many places, is that you will be blamed for the actions of people who plook like you or share particular characteristics with you. and we saw it with muslims and sikhs after 9/11, and needless to say, as you said, you don't
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hold one person, one member of a group accountable for anything the other group does, if they are undelated and thuss of niles away. this is something that happened for a long time. it happened to jews for a long time. they used to burn synagogues because the jews killed jesus. it repeats itself in history. >> there is a piece in "the new york times," for younger jewish americans there is a conflict, there is an openness to palestinians being a stateless people who can be sympathized with, and confronting the long standing conflict, and pressures from the ren jagss. and you have young american jews, and the parents or
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grandparents, they holocaust survivors, they can hold both things at the same time. a lot of people can grasp of the ideas of recognizing the mu manti and the dignity and pain, and k4 is unfortunate. because fw you pay attention to their stories, there is a lot of parallels, sometimes dark parallels but the idea that people who have lost their home, who are marginalized, and mistreated in countries throughout the world, then they seem to come home. because i think, i know what statehood has meant to jewish people. >> i have to bring you in hear, eamon. one of the things you are doing
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that is so important. just your existence is revolutionary. can you talk about the ways -- i feel like black lives matter have changed the palestinian play. this is iona pressley on the floor of the house. take a listen. >> palestinians are told the same thing as black folks in american, there is no exceptable form of resistance. >> how do you think things have changed based on how younger people can look at the conflict for palestinians? >> well, you know, i'm actually going to draw a bit of an answer from both of the comments you just said. social media, and as he was saying, palestinians are trying to take control of their narrative. thank you so much for the wind works but i don't play a role in the conflict, other than i simply tried to share with people the stories that people are telling everyone that is willing to listen, which is,
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twofold. one, the palestinian people who as zaire was driring, have sought liberation for decades are trying to reclaim their narrative, and we have seen it with the media, reduces the conflict with the phrases, it's israel versus the arabs, and palestinians constantly say, that is what they did in this conflict. that is it a very important part of the equation. when you talk about palestinians, which palestinians? palestinians that live in israel? palestinians that live in jerusalem, the west bank? and the point that he was making, about anti-semitism, there is a backlash among palestinians who say people who are committing the attacks are not helping the cause. we see it everywhere, and anyone
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who carries or attacks a jewish person in the world is doing a disservice to the the palestinian cause. that is something that you are seeing for the first time because of social media. may not have gotten the same kind of attention and may have never been reported on. palestinians are going to social media, and in their own various channels on instagram and facebook saying, no, we condemn this, and as many people have documented, it could be a new dynamic that may bring a balanced approach to resolve it. are lingering issues that have not been addressed and there is a new momentum in politics, and a cultural awareness, and you mentioned some of the issues that people are dealing with, with various rights, blm or what we have seeing play out in the west bank, there are alliances that are trying to raise
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awareness of the plight of people around the world. >> and the media looks different. we need to have diversity in media, and that is important to have more nuance, and the likud party is one party in israel. stop labelling people and being jerks to people. learn more about the issues. thank you both very much. still ahead, a new bookfy carol leonnig next here on "the reid out." reid out." what makes new salonpas arthritis gel so good for arthritis pain? salonpas contains the most prescribed
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service $40,000 for rooms used to guard him at his mar-a-lago, is the first attempt that trump is charging rent to his own protectors. it's part of a pattern for the former grifter in chief. the secret service were pawns in a larger pattern in a pay off for trump. they were pawns in following the dear leader agenda. to protecting his coronavirus superspreader rallies. many agents were cheering for trump's re-election, and biden emerged the clear victors were promoting trump's debunked conspiracy theories.
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so serious was this concern about trump's hold on the secret service that biden transition advisers urged that agency swap out all members of the trump presidential detail before biden's team agreed to a compromise. they could bring back some of the senior agents whom biden new well from his vice presidential detail. joining me now, carl leonnig. i saw your interview with rachel maddow. i was stunned and afraid of your book but i'm glad you did write it. let's go back, the charging secret service agents to protect him. wtf? >> you know, it's funny because ultimately, the secret service paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that means
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taxpayers paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the trump organization over the years that he was president. it might be for rooms to stay near him and his family members. might be for golf carts. it might be for, you know, any number of things that the trump organization charged for space at mar-a-lago, for the offices to protect the president. it's not unusual, joy, for a president to charge for space at their personal home. but it's usually a tiny amount. and with the trump organization, it was a lot. and also, you said it better than i did. they were ultimately pawns, the secret service agents, because there was a much larger dollar figure going to mar-a-lago and the trump organization. all the people who wanted anned
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a an audience. and people who wanted to see the president had to travel to his clubs to see him. and they also ended up paying into the trump war coffers. >> it is gross and despicable. but i wonder, because you wrote a lot about this absolute fieldy. they are used and charged to protect him. you wrote there is almost a faction of trumpists that went along with the january 6th insurrection. what? >> i know. it's a little bit shocking. it's not shorking to the secret service friends. members of the detail are close to the penalty. that's going to happen. you will get close to somebody that you stand with at their vacation, in their most private moments. you will get to know that person and maybe like them.
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but this agency is supposed to be above reproach when it comes to political viewpoints. those, you stuff in a bag when you go to work. because you're supposed to be protecting the office, not the man. i mean, not his presidential and political goals. but in this case, the presidential detail, forgive me, the members, some of them were rooting for the january 6th rioters, calling them patriots. sometimes s basically questioning whether or not biden had been elected. and that was very disturbing to some of his colleagues who shared screen shots with me. >> and 300 agents and officers getting covid. infecting their family members, and having to quarantine. being around an infected co-worker, despite them passing covid to them. you write about a guy named tony
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ornado, in a political position to set up rallies and now he is back in secret service in a senior position. i wonder if someone like that, or maybe the other trumpists in place, are president biden and camera harris save with these people in place? >> it's very disturbing. i will repeat what my houses tell me. they are really worried because this agency is supposed to protect the office. and not protect a particular person and their ideology. and in the case now of assistant director tony arnado, help was a political arm of the president. he helped clear lafayette square
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june 1 and clear peaceful protestors with munitions, rubber bullets. he was a key part in helping the president buff his image as a law and order penalty. get throughout while covid was spiking. send officers and agents basically into their next sick bed by continuing to stage the campaign rallies. so now he's an assistant director, and one of the complaints i hear most frequency from current agents and former, how could this be allowed to happen? that is a blemish on the secret service's noble promise to be above politics. >> yeah, it's scary and it makes me worry about the security of the current administration with these people running around in there. carol leonnig, thank you very
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write down phone numbers for your parents, siblings and neighbors. pick a place to meet your family if you are not together and can't go home. remind your parents to pack an emergency supply kit. making a plan might feel like homework, but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. anyone familiar with this show knows senator ted cruz of texas is featured in this space. when it comes to the absolute worst, he is a repeat offender. he toted his bag to mexico in the ritz-carlton, and millions in his home state were without power. and kremlin cruz. now, texas's most embarrassing senator is degrading american
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forces and applauding russian's military. cruz shared a russian recruitment video. his comment saps a woke, emasculated merit military. pl. here is the video. >> it begins in california with a little girl raised by two moms. who also marched for equality. i like to think i have been defending freedom from an early age. i finished high school at the
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top of my class and after meeting with an army recruiter, i found it. a way to prove my inner strength. i answered my calling. now, the russian video is propaganda. the u.s. army ad shares a story of a real officer stationed in south korea. she represents the reality of the all volunteer armed forces. she can probably drop kick ted cruz. hell, i could. and he doesn't serve as texas constituents, went on to defend his tweet, and saying they are trying to turn our military in into pansies. pansies? who says that in the 21st century? his attacks prompted army
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leaders to get around officer lloyd, describing her as a superstar by any measure. let's go back to cruz's tweet. he claims they are emasculated. probably not the wisest go two. and who kept trump's posterior after they subjected him to mu mill lags. and a guy who basically called his wife ugly compared to melania, and someone who accused his father of taking part. the kennedy assassination. and ted cruz took it sitting down. after that, cruz phone backed to get out the vote for his apparent real daddy. so he should know a thing about two about be emasculated. and he blamed his own daughters
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>> a lot has happened in the two years since actress taraji p. henson told congress about the mental health needs of black youth. namely, the year that was 2020. the pandemic laid bare longstanding racial inequities. a december study showed black and latinx students falling further behind in the shift to remote schooling. less likely to receive in-person schooling than white students. and the murder of george floyd and the racial reckoning that followed put in focus the toll that racism and police brutality take on the emotional and mental health of black students. in response to a united negro college fund survey at historically black colleges and universities last summer, one student said, covid-19 is out here killing us, and so are the police, and i'm tired. i never felt like i needed more therapy in my life. now taraji p. henson is again using her celebrity to help. this week her foundation, the boris lawrence henson foundation, launched the unspoken curriculum, a new
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six-week campaign centered on black students' mental health and bias in our education system. the foundation created in 2018 is named after henson's father, who also struggled with mental health issues. taraji p. henson, academy award nominated and golden globe winning actress and founder of the boris lawrence henson foundation. i'm excited for you to be here. i'm going to try to hold myself together and talk to you. okay, now i'm freaking out. so i learned a lot about you in preparing for this segment, and i didn't know, as much as a fan as i am, i didn't know you were a substitute teacher at one point, which i think is amazing. can you talk about how you experience of having been a teacher informed your outlook on how we can deal with mental health with kids, especially given how horrible 2020 was? >> i volunteered to be a substitute teacher for special needs students, so i thought. the first few assignments, i was
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in a school with special needs students, mentally, physically impaired. then i get a call to go to crenshaw for the same services, i thought. i'm waiting in the class for my babies to come in, who bring me so much joy, put my life in perspective. and in walks a room full of black boys, labeled "special ed." they could speak, they had attitudes, they were witty, they didn't see any physical impairment or mental, for that, for what i could see right away. it was a long assignment. as i was there, i did a little further research, found out why these students weren't doing the homework, parents weren't home. one kid was found wandering out by the train tracks, which was in the backyard of the school. that's a whole other thing, how you're supposed to learn with a train running through the backyard, the playground, every day. also, one student was arrested for stealing. we're talking fourth grade, by the way. one student was arrested for stealing food from a 7-eleven.
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students are normalizing shoot-outs with bullet casings and bullet holes in the school, grabbing my hand, laughing, ha ha, miss henson, look, there was a shoot-out last night. we're expecting our students to come to school and learn under these traumatic experiences is just unfair. it's not fair. i did research, and i found out that a -- 16% of enrolled students, we make up -- our children, children of color, make up 16% of enrolled students, which they are often treated more harshly than the others. 27% of the students are referred -- who are our students, are referred to law enforcement. 31% of the students who are arrested, 48% of the students receiving one or more suspensions. where's the compassion? where's the understanding? you know. where's the help for our children? >> well, and then, of course, covid made it worse, right? so you have -- i mean, we're looking at these statistics, more than half of black students
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were learning at home. that doesn't mean that more than half of black students necessarily had good wi-fi, the resources, the backup they needed to make that work. then also dealing with the double depressions, as you said in your testimony, seeing fellow black people die. somebody who looks like their dad, their uncle, their mom, on top of it. so how is the foundation going to deal with that? what are you guys putting forward to try to make that better? >> we partner with another agency of ours, edelman. and we are launching an unspoken curriculum. and it's designed to highlight the lessons that students learn about race sometimes in school. it's not in the curriculum. it's bias. you know, so the goal is to bring awareness. so we have -- we're hosting winn-hour virtual hangout rooms for students to connect, to social it's with their peers. these virtual hangout spaces will be moderated by licensed therapists and educators and experienced counselors to create
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a safe space for students to talk openly about their mental health and relate to experiences in school. you have to think about this. like my son went to a private school. very diverse. oops, i did something, i took my screen off. very diverse. but, you know, what about the students who aren't of color? who have to deal with watching their friends get treated a different way? we're opening the forum for all of the students to speak. and not just students 12 to 22. parents, peers, educators, counselors, guidance counselors, therapists. whoever wants to join the conversation. please look us up, lorislhensonfoundation.org/un spoken. >> we're going to suppose this too. >> please do. because we want to help in any way. look. as an african-american young woman going to public schools, i'm still suffering with traumas
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that i didn't even realize, you know, that was happening to me in school. little micro aggressions that i didn't catch until later. and now as a 50-year-old woman, who's established, i still catch myself bracing myself when i walk into a room that have maybe one or two of us in it. why is that? because society hasn't told me i'm safe in any room. i'm sure my white counterparts don't feel they have to brace themselves when they walk into a room, because society tells them they're safe. >> you're right, and if taraji p. henson is having those feelings, and you have so many resources to be able to respond, imagine how young women are feeling all over this country, black women, black boys, you know, girls. so i love that you're doing this. thank you so much. i so appreciate you being here. we're going to post all the links and everything to your foundation. thank you. thank you, sister, i appreciate you. i'm so excited, i talked to taraji p. henson. before we go, we could all
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use a "moment of joy." in 2019, i covered a story about a same-sex couple denied citizenship for one of their children under a trump administration policy that require children born abroad to have a biological tie to a u.s. citizen. the biden administration announced a new interpretation of that law that would grant citizenship previously denied to their child. taking into account the realities of modern families, such as assisted reproductive technology used by lgbtq families. congratulations to ethan and the rest of the family, and they're so atoeshl. that is tonight's "reid out." "all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> you don't need the subpoena, you just need the request for subpoena to damage republicans from blocking it, to damage that member of congress, whoever it is, simply because you want to look at them, why would you want to look at them unless they did something wrong? >> how the republican argument against a january 6th commission sounds like their rationale for
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