how they move their trajectory. sadly, it isn't tough to explain the gop's opposition to the january 6th commission, their trajectory, by bashing the commission up front and taking heat now it makes it easier to down play and publicly negate a final report later that states the republican party and the dear leader donald instigated the insurrection. just 35 republicans in the house voted in favor of the commission, and a vote in the senate could come this week. although right now it appears a total of zero senate republicans are in favor of the legislation for the commission to investigate the violent mob which tried to kill them and the capitol police, hang mike pence and destroy american democracy in the process. the gop continues to claim that the independent commission, which would be styled on the famed 9/11 commission, is a partisan ploy, but it is not. >> there's been an active effort

to white wash and rewrite the shameful events of that day to avoid accountability and turn away from difficult truths. if we avoid confronting what happened here a few short months ago, we can be sure that intimidation, coercion and violence will become a defining feature of our politics. >> that was peter meyer, one of the few republicans who voted to impeach the insurrectionist former president speaking the truth, someone who doesn't speak the truth is this woman. ms. jewish space lasers herself, marjorie taylor greene, who in a deranged speech on the house floor actually uterred the sentence, quote, the people who breached the capitol on january 6th are being abused. she then continued, quote. when will the witch hunt of donald j. trump and all of those who support him come to an end, end quote. another member of the racist domestic extremist group proud boys has been arrested for his

role in the attack, a florida man that goes by the name milkshake. milkshake. as "the washington post" notes, milkshake allegedly shouted, quote, let's take the capitol an hour before the assault while marching around the building. then he was admonished, quote, or he admonished, quote, let's not yell that by a proud boys leader on a video livestream by the group that day. the fbi released these videos of two at-large suspects seen attacking officers with various weapons. however, despite what you are seeing pro trump supporters violently attacking the police on the same day it was released, this man, senator ron johnson, said on fox news it was all just a, quote, peaceful protest. i wonder what milkshake has to say about that. the former president faces three lawsuits now related to his conduct on january 6th filed by democratic members of congress, civil rights groups and two capitol police officers. trump also faces two separate

defamation lawsuits, another lawsuit for fraud is being sued by four people over a "celebrity apprentice" marketing scheme. he also is under investigation in georgia for phone call to election officials in which he insisted they engage in voter fraud and find votes in his favor. along with the manhattan attorney general, the new york attorney general's office opened a probe into trump's organization investigating whether they inflated businesses for tax breaks and lone. it has announced it is investigating the personal taxes of allen weisselberg, the trump organization's long-time cio, a man that knows the working of the trump organization better than anyone. joining me reporter for "the new york times" and msnbc contributor katie benner. thank you for joining with us. the trump developments, particularly as related to the new york attorney general

joining hands with the manhattan d.a. into investigating donald trump's activities as a private businessman, these seem to be dovetailing with a lot of legal jeopardy this president is facing at this point. >> absolutely. keep in mind one of the reasons why the new york attorney general joining this is important is because the state of new york has very broad powers and broad laws covering financial crimes that other states do not. it would fall into the new york attorney general's purview. keep in mind, what is investigated is alleged financial crime, tax fraud. did the trump organization say that the value of its properties were high in order to get loans and then lower to pay lower taxes. things like that are being investigated and that gives the investigation more muscle. >> there was some talk while donald trump was president that, you know, it may be fruitless to go after him. do you think that the people prosecuting these cases seem to have the information they need now because they've got tax

returns and they've got a lot of information from allen weisselberg or at least through his former daughter-in-law, and then there are rumors that weisselberg himself might be cooperating with authorities. >> you know, i would never say that investigators have what they need in order to indict, in order to prosecute because you rile really don't know. their task is to investigate and do so as aggressively as possible but to only indict and bring charges if they feel they have all of the evidence. what seems clear in their strategy is not only to target the trump organization but to target mr. weisselberg because he would be tied to all of the finances of the company. he would have to sign off, certainly would be culpable if they find a crime. another reason to target mr. weisselberg is because he would know if other members of the organization were privy to the alleged activities and he could, as you say, possibly cooperate. it is how you run any class investigation, you try to get people to flip and provide

evidence so the investigation can broaden and more people can be charged. >> for most people who didn't know this, it is a very, very complicated story that was put forth by your colleagues in "the new york times", and in a fashion i have never seen before. it was pages and pages and pages of this story, which included the idea that donald trump would take the same asset, like a building, and it would be valued differently depending on what the need was, whether it was insurance or loans or taxes. >> absolutely. keep in mind, you can't say that a building has multiple different values for multiple different purposes to suture needs in either to get a tax break or get better loan terms. one of the reasons why this is important because, as you know very well, ali, like we covered the financial crisis together. once a loan on a property is made, that loan is then packaged and resold to investors. so the consequence for salty loans for, you know, impropered valued loans, that consequence is real and many, many investors

now hold these loans. >> katie, always good to see you. you must follow her. her news coverage is amazing. >> joining me, the chairman of the environment and public works committee, senator tom carper of delaware, a member of the homeland security and governmental affairs and finance committee. senator, good to see you. >> ali, good morning. how are you? >> good. i want to talk to you about the obvious thing right now and that is sometime in the next few days you and your senate colleagues are going to have a vote on the january 6th commission, which in my mind and i think in the mind of a lot of less political people seems to be the lowest hanging fruit, the thing that should be the most bipartisan. so it worries me when i think there's a danger that may not pass, but you actually have some real business you need to pass after that. >> i'm a former chairman of homeland security committee. before i came to the senate susan collins and joe lieberman were the leaders of our committee and on the heels of

9/11 they worked across the aisle, they worked with a bunch of us on the committee and off the committee to create the 9/11 commission, to find out what happened, not just what were the security breaches, the lack of communications amongst the civilian security and the military security, but what is going on within our country, what is going on in the world in terms of violence and the hatred. as it turned out we created a bipartisan commission led by a republican governor from new jersey, tom keane. led by lee hamilton, former congressman from indiana. they were great people on the commission, wonderful people, including people like john layman, secretary of the navy. they worked for months and prepared i think 42 -- adopted unanimously 42 actions by the congress and the president. we adopted almost all of them almost unanimously and enacted them. what we need is a similar approach with respect to what happened at the capitol, another attack on our country, and we

need to know the truth. i think it was thomas jefferson if the people know the truth they won't make a mistake. we need to know the truth. we find out what worked. the 9/11 commission worked. i think it is a good idea and we should do it. >> 20 years after 9/11, it is not that we all agree on what should have been done or what came of it and wars and the patriot act, but there wasn't -- there wasn't this partisan divide over what the commission did to get its information. it was largely lauded. there were critics but it was largely lauded. this is just the starting point. what do you do if this doesn't pass in the senate? is there another alternative to investigating this? because this just sort of shuts down a piece of history if our most senior lawmakers like you cannot undertake an investigation of the attack on our center of democracy. >> the 9/11 commission was bafrp, had wonderful people leading and serving on the

committing. i like to say bipartisan solutions are lasting solutions. we could go through a series of hearings in the senate and house. they could say it is a bipartisan deal. it is their committee, they're trying to jam it through and make us look bad. that's why the commission is a good idea. i hope our republican colleagues will not walk away from it. >> your colleague senator ron johnson seems to have taken it to a new level. i want to listen to the new allegation he leveled about the republicans who voted in favor of moving ahead with this commission in the house. >> they're probably figuring out they can't impeach donald trump for a third time, so this is the only way they can keep their false narrative that there were thousands of armed insurrectionists that stormed the capitol, intent on overthrowing this government. >> why have some republicans fallen for this in the house? 35 of them i think. >> i suppose some of them take a

look at what the media has done to me for pushing back. they pretty well look at me as road kill and say, oh, don't want any of that. so there's an enormous amount of media pressure. it is amazing how you get attacked for just telling obvious and simple truths. >> senator carper, it is amazing how you get attacked for just telling obvious and simple truths. what is your evaluation of that? >> i'm going back to thomas jefferson who i mentioned earlier. jefferson used to say, and it is really sort of a summary of what he says here. he used to say, if the people know the truth, they won't make a mistake. and one of the big challenges and problems we have in our country today is a lot of folks, we don't know what the truth is. one of our responsibilities is to try to make sure that the truth is uncovered by us and shared with the rest of the world. when -- and i think the best way to get, again, to the truth on what happened on january 6th is

a bipartisan support, modelled after the 9/11 commission. it has worked before. it will work again. we'll let the chips fall where they may. as for donald trump, he will have his own problems in courts and litigation around the country, and nobody is above the law. we will see. let the chips fall where they may. >> senator, thanks for joining us this morning. democratic senator tom carper of delaware. we appreciate you being with us. up next, the curious case of cancel culture and how the ones complaining about it are actually the ones doing it. it appears calm over the skies of gaza this morning. let's have a live look there. the cease-fire in the middle east appears to be holding for the moment, but the days of deadly fighting have taken a tremendous toll. we will explore where the situation stands for each side. to all of the "velshi" viewers, namaste, which is a world you can't say in some schools in

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democracy relies expressly on the ability to form an opinion and express it, which is why what happened to the journalist nikole hannah-jones is troubling. she is a friend of the show, pulitzer prize winning journalist, a pea body award winner and genius. she was awarded the mcarthurinous grant in 2017. she was recently appointed to a prestigious role at the university of north carolina's respected journalism school, a role historically followed by being granted tenure. but the board of trustees denied her tenure, over criticism of the 1619 work. if you haven't read it you should, but in the 1619 project hannah joans and others challenge our perception of america's history, pointing out before plymouth colony was

established by the pilgrims the first enslaved americans were already in the united states. in fact, a lot of people including me didn't know before the 1619 project it was the case. instead of thanking her for broadening our knowledge, people have been on crusade to silence her. those who complain about cancel culture are trying to cancel nikole hannah-jones. unc should not fall for it. they cannot punish people for offering views for which they disagree or don't understand. free speech is not just free speech for those who validate your world view. just this week plent of good people have taken exception to things i have written and said on this show about the israeli government and palestinians. people disagree with me all the time. i'm not only okay with it, i encourage it. that's the world in which we live. you have your point of view, i have mine. let's talk about it. muting the voice of your opposition is not victory, debate is. college is where debate is

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the fragile and delicate truce was immediately tested in the hours after the cease-fire began. israeli police and palestinians clashed at one of the holiest sites in islam where the recent conflict was sparked. videos appear to show police firing stun guns and fear gas grenades at palestinians who reportedly threw rocks at police. emotions are still running high and deep in the long-running feud between the two sides. this morning we wanted to offer perspective from different sides and explore how to possibly bring about meaningful conversation and change that is so desperately needed in the region. joining me first is an award winning humanitarian, member of palestinian executive committee and a veteran palestinian negotiator dating back to 1991 with the u.s. mediated talks between israel and the plo at the madrid conference. it is good to see you. >> thank you. i did want to say i resigned from the plo committee at the

end of 2020. >> thank you for clarifying that. you have history a lot of people don't have. peace between the palestinians and israelis seemed close in the 1990s. it seemed close again in 2000 and beyond. where is it now? is there a viability of taking the stuff that you had discussed and negotiated in the past and using it as a basis for peace or are we long past that being a possibility? >> the problem is when we started negotiations in 1991, our whole process was based on international law. it was based on legality. it was based on parity or justice. our objective was very clear, and then the occupation and establishing an independent democratic viable palestinian state on 22% of all of historical palestine. israel was established on 78%. the territory that israel

occupied in 1967. unfortunately, that so-called peace process was highjacked and used in order to maintain israel in power, to maintain the occupation, to continue acting with full impunity to build more settlements, to steal more land, to demolish more homes and to create facts that would become irreversible. therefore the whole concept of the two-state solution has been systematically destroyed by israel through the whole policies of expanding, of annexation and superimposing greater israel on all of historical palestine. it is very hard to say we can go back because it doesn't exist anymore. because if you look at the land, if you look at people's lives, at what has been established, you will see that the whole policy was particularly designed to carry out this annexation and expansion, in order to take over jerusalem and transform its character and carry out ethnic

cleansing in jerusalem and at the same time to transform the palestinians into little population centers, totally fragmented, separated from each other, as israel imposes its own control over all of that, with gaza entirely under siege by air, by sea, by land, and a very, very cruel blockade in which israel controls what comes in, what goes out, everything, leading to a total degradation not just of the environment but of human life. so palestinians need are saying that the whole process, the whole approach of saying we will reach out to our occupiers and we want to have peace has not worked. the whole issue of a negotiated peaceful settlement has not worked, so it is time to start looking for other things, other options, unless the international community develops the spirit and the backbone and

the courage to hold israel to account and to curb its violations and violence. >> the situation on the ground when you talk about the dispossessions of property, the cutting of water pipes, the removal of solar panels, the idea that property is declared needed for military or archeological purposes and then it becomes a -- you know, an israeli settlement, that and the fact you talk about territories, palestinian territories separated from each other, not the west bank from gaza, wu obviously is separate, but cities in the west bank separated from each other. >> exactly. >> in which case there are check points, israeli check points in the middle. some described that including human rights watch as apartheid and i have said that. that has come up against some very, very strong opposition, the idea that you cannot call that apartheid, it is different than apartheid in south africa. what is your response to that? >> it is different, yes. it is different because it is worse than apartheid. you can ask all of the south

african delegations, even beginning with mandela, they say what is happening in palestinian is worse than apartheid because it is a displacement, replacement paradigm. it is a place in which they want to remove a whole population, without heritage or identity and replace it with another and claim as they did that this was a land without a people or a people without a land. so they can either render us invisible or silence us. what is happening is apartheid as human watch said, as has been said. we've been saying for decades this is apartheid, but it is worse because it is a set of colonial enterprise in which you want to remove the people, in which you want to carry out some sort of demographic engineering, so to speak. so the dominant people and the dominant infrastructure will be superimposed and will be an

israeli/jewish infrastructure and so on. the settlements are not placed haphazardly, they are, of course, done so with deliberate planning to control communications, to control the land, to control the water sources, and to control the lives of palestinians. the roads, the apartheid roads that are being built on stolen land, on our land, of course, are only for jewish use only, for the settlers, and it creates extra territoriality between israel and the west bank. this deliberate creeping cruelty of taking over the land, of taking over people's lives, of creating an artificial reality is what is happening now. so when jimmy carter wrote about palestinian peace, not apartheid, they also raised a big stink because israel is used to having its narrative, its version, its doctored version of reality swallowed hook, line and

sinker. and then if anybody dares speak out and tell the truth, then there are all sorts of ready-made labels, anti-semitism. no, the truth must come out and it is. if you follow the social media, if you follow what the younger generation is saying, they are not only gaining access to the truth but they are disseminating it. there is a whole network of solidarity and support. ali, i must say, i have to give you lots of love and appreciation for your candor and for your courage to speak out, and palestinian people, the palestinians have noticed. they ask many people when they found out i was going to be with you on this interview, said, please thank him on our behalf. you don't know what a difference it makes to have one voice with the courage, with the integrity to speak out and to address the truth rather than the handed down pablum and the manufactured

mantras or refrains that people easily use in order to hide the truth rather than relay it. >> well, we pray for peace. i know you have been working for peace, not praying for it, for more than 30 years. >> for a long time, a very long time. thank you. >> the doctor is a former executive committee member of the palestine liberation organization. joining me is a staff writer with "the new york times" magazine, a senior political and military analyst for a national daily newspaper out of tel aviv and the author of "rise and kill first," the history of israel's targeted assassinations. he is somebody i turn to to understand what is going on in the middle east. ronan, i want to start with this issue, the idea that every time there are these fights, these wars, whatever you want to call them, they often end up with something that feels like the status quo, no meaningful change, but something that feels

meaningfully different here is opinion in the united states about that. how is that going down in israel? >> i think it is reflected in the way that the audience of israel, that this is not just a war between israel and hamas and that the fate of this war and the identification of the winner or loser or who gained more is not just in the number of skull counts of the enemy, but also a war that is being conducted over international media, especially over the american media. israel sees that. i think that prime minister netanyahu also paid attention when he listened, maybe not first as president biden wanted, but when president biden made it perfectly clear that the united states is losing its patience,

prime minister netanyahu reached a cease-fire which maybe came a little earlier than what he thought or a little bit earlier than what some army general thought would be sufficient to get more, to achieve more from this conflict. the israeli public sees this as, of course, just a continuation to what the u.s. administration is doing vis-a-vis iran, their willingness if not more to sign new jcpoa which is partly because of -- mainly because of the change of administrations. the israeli public understand it is not the same, the relations between president trump and prime minister netanyahu are very different than the current ones between the white house and jerusalem. >> one of the points you and i always discuss is that this issue, while when the world hears israel/palatine, this must be all everyone eats, sleeps and

drinks, but netanyahu has succeeded in his many years in government as making it not in the forefront, but in the background. do israelis sit there and say, we have to do something about this? >> well, think it was not just netanyahu making it a marginal issue for most israelis. it is the world agenda that has made it a marginal issue for everybody. you know, dealing with the new rise of new forces and new democracies in the middle east and the arab world and some kind of havoc and many other international, isis, of course, i think the palestinians were the main losers from this new schedule for the middle east. now back on top of the agenda, now the israelis do realize this is a problem, especially now after tel aviv was bombed, this

is a topic that needed to be addressed. i'm not sure that everybody are reaching the conclusion that i assume you reached, ali, and i reached, that the main solution is negotiation because the repeating hostility rounds every few years, and we had already four since hamas took over gaza in 2007, that they reach exactly the same point where they started minus, of course, the people who were killed and injured and the suffering and the blood and the unbelievable destruction. by the way, destruction on both sides, of course, and people killed on both sides. but most people in israel feel that hamas will never give up, that hamas is the only hamas can be handled is with the use of massive force. and i think if you run a poll in israel now days they would say it was not too long, it was too little, that it was not too aggressive force, but that hamas needs to be dealt with much more

force because hamas doesn't acknowledge the existence of israel because hamas says they will fight until israel is demolished, and hamas says we will never negotiate with israel. the difficulty i think, and going back to prime minister netanyahu, is that the way hamas acts and the way netanyahu acted in order to weaken the palestinian authority and fund hamas with qatari money, helping hamas becoming -- this was just bribe. so bribing hamas or using qatari money as bribe to keep hamas quiet for as long as possible, and even money that was designed, designated to go to that civilian project or the other was under the control of hamas and made them stronger. this is something i think israel should reconsider. do we want to enforce a stronger hamas after the war or maybe try to make the palestinian authority much stronger.

>> this is the point you bring up that most people in the west have no idea about. so if the rest of us can do anything for this, it is we can read and we can get more informed about what is actually going on in the ground in israel/palestine/gaza. good to see you. ronan bergman, staff writer at "the "new york" magazine. democrats are facing the stark reality. many republicans would rather stand by the big lie than work with them on passing actual policies that would help americans. we will get into that next. americans. we will get into that next we're good. the remarkable gx and lx. get 0.9% apr financing on the 2021 gx 460. experience amazing, at your lexus dealer.

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compromise, on friday the white house counteroffered at $1.7 trillion. that number still far exceeds the $500 billion plan republicans put forward. they say the offer is well above the range of what can pass congress with bipartisan support. republicans seem to be floating at $800 billion idea. at the end of the day this plan is called the american jobs plan. it is poised to create millions of jobs in a variety of sectors. republicans, however, would rather not focus on policy or job creation right now because they're busy suppressing votes in america, spreading the big lie and blocking the formation of a commission. that's it. just a commission to independently investigate the january 6th insurrection. the senate could vote early on the latter, as early as next week. after it passed the house with 35 republicans actually voting with democrats in favor of the commission, that's all they're voting for, the commission, this is what you call low hanging fruit. the passage of that bill is in peril because of the senate filibuster rule which requires

legislation to have the support of at least 60 senators. the biden agenda will inevitably run into the same road block each and every time and some prominent anti-trump republicans say it is time to go it alone without bipartisan cooperation. lincoln project co-founder rick wilson tweeted, even now too many think policy will save them. but our climate planning or but our control plan is not politics. bad guys send people to kill you and you respond with a white paper. do you think some kind of bipartisan comity and good will will be lost somehow in they sent people to kill you. get a grip. joiping me now "washington post" opinion writer and author of upcoming book "resistance, how women saved democracy from donald trump." jennifer rubin. joining me is hayes brown, writer and editor with msnbc daily. good morning to both of you, jen ruben, you and i have talked for

years. i am fully in the column of policy and debate wins the day. increasingly over the last few weeks i am hearing very smart people whom i respect saying, velshi, you're stupid, it is not going to work this time. this time it is about fighting fire with fire. >> well, i think it is about democrats giving up on the notion that they get brownie points for bipartisanship. they have bought into this notion that because biden said he wanted to do things in a bipartisan way that republicans' refusal to do anything, even the commission, means that they can't do anything. that's nonsense. of course, the big example was the american rescue plan. the republicans were not interested in doing anything, the democrats said, fine. they pushed ahead. they used reconciliation. lo and behold, it passed. lo and behold it became extremely popular, to the point where republicans are now touting it as a great accomplishment to their own

constituents. i think the piece that is missing is that democrats simply have to remember that they are dealing with people who are not a political party, who are not a policy organization. these people are a cult and these people are anti-democratic authoritarian, so move on. what is a majority worth if it is not to set up an inquiry into an attack on the deadliest, domestic violence incident in recent memory. so go ahead and do it. my suggestion however is let the republicans take the floor. a few days of watching them on the floor, filibustering an inquiry into an attack on the capitol could be what they say a teaching moment. so let them do that. then call it off. then go ahead, have a select committee just like benghazi. hold hearings. use subpoena power, get to the bottom of this. make kevin mccarthy testify under oath, make members of congress testimony under oath and do their business.

the truth will come out and republicans will scream and cry and pound the table, but ultimately we need to get to the bottom of this and we need to identify the people in the republican caucus who may have cooperated with the terrorists. >> hayes, the work done on january 6th is continuing because the bottom line is the republicans, many who call themselves institutionalists, some democrats call themselves institutionalists, the leaders in the house and senate are not doing something in the interest of protecting the institution. a lot of americans think congress is nonsense, but a lot of republicans are saying, yeah, congress is not something you need to take all that seriously. it was under attack by insurrectionists and we're not doing anything about it. it worries me this was low hanging fruit, it was an easy one to agree on, a bipartisan commission to see what the security failings were on january 6th. if you can't get this, why should democrats think about compromising on anything? >> i mean i completely agree with you on that point.

what really gets me is this commission, it was a compromise. this was not the commission that democrats like nancy pelosi really wanted it to be. you have it set up so it is an even number of participants right now, five appointed by the democratic leadership, five appointed by republican leadership. even subpoenas, if you need a majority to actually get a subpoena on this commission. so it baffles me that this is what republicans are saying, no, this is too much, we don't want this. people out there like senator marco rubio saying, no, it is a trap, a trap to make it so when republican appointed members don't want to subpoena someone the press can write about how they don't want subpoenas. no, this is about trying to get to the bottom of what actually happened on january 6th. it hurts that many of the republicans were witnesses, some of them like kevin mccarthy, house minority leader, in communication with donald trump during that time, would have to probably be subpoenaed to testify about what actually went down on that day under, you

know, threat of perjury. that is a very hard thing for them to come to terms with. so i think on the fact of the filibuster, i think what a lot of people need to realize is that it is not just about filibustering the final passage of the bill that would set up the commission. it is a filibuster to even debate it. they don't even want to talk about it. that's what is going to be blocked right now, even talking about setting up this commission. >> jennifer hayes, i want to switch topics here because there are two words i never thought i would use in the same sentence, alabama and yoga. this week the state's governor signed a bill overturning a 1993 law that banned the practice of yoga in alabama public k through 12 schools. i can honestly say i never knew such a law existed. some critics, mainly christian conservatives who maybe are finding a hard time finding their center, say teaching yoga could open the door for people to be converted to religions like hinduism, which seems like a downward dog stretch to me.

one thing that didn't get overturned in the new bill is greetings of namaste and other spiritual are not allowed in public schools in alabama. let's take it to the mat, jennifer. >> you know, this is the state of the republican party. these people are obsessed about nonsense, and what is more is they've come to believe this is politics. that talking about yoga in classrooms is a substitute for governing, for solving actual problems. you know, the state of alabama is not one of the top ten states when it comes to education, health, longevity. it is not like there's any dirth of problems in the state of alabama but this is what they focus on. it is actually funny, but it is actually strategic, because if they didn't talk about this nonsense, if they didn't fan the flames of white nationalists then they would have to address the problems of alabama.

they would actually have to vote for things and be held accountable. they can't have that, so let's talk about yoga and dr. seuss and the whole, you know, grab bag of nasty memes these people obsess about. >> hey, you look like you do some yoga. i have to say, living on the upper west side in new york, i totally -- it didn't occur to me until i read this article. i had entirely forgotten that yoga was an indian hindu thing, even though it is my heritage. if somebody asked me real quick, where is yoga from i would have said the upper west side. >> i have done some yoga in my day. i remember when i was in high school this dance revolution gumming into the gym classes. i want to point out it was a 1993 ban on alabama schools that just has been overturned. they're keeping the namaste ban, but it shows how the cultural war is playing out in the republican party. it is not like it is a new

phenomenon they're trying to lean on this idea of, oh, these other people are coming in to change american culture, we better put a ban on it, it is our politics. it has gotten a lot worse lately and more prevalent and heavily focused. if you look back at 1993, i'm sure it was deemed a really weird thing, but the fact is that it is a law passed in alabama in 1993, so it is a thing that has been a factor in how politics has worked in this party for a minute now. >> i have been looking for years not to exercise, so if i had known conversion could have been used. namaste. i used the example of what occurred between nikole hannah-jones and the unc to highlight how troubling it is that there's a price to pay for doing so even at america's biggest institutions. my colleague tiffany cross joins me now. tiffany, denying tenure to

pulitzer prize winner and mcarthur genius at a renowned journalism school, there's no part of these words together that makes sense. >> it doesn't make sense, but i have to say, ali, i don't find it surprising. it is absolutely ridiculous. i spend time every week on the show to deliver an essay about something i find egregious, but it was so ridiculous i had to ask my friend ta-nehisiocates to weigh in and he lays out why they are bothered by the 1619 project. you don't want to miss that. i will be talking to the former house impeachment manager about republican's opposition to the january 6th commission and why it is one of many proposals likely to die in the senate. we have a big show coming up, ali. so folks are sitting at home thinking about doing yoga, just say namaste, stay in bed and watch tiffany cross. >> okay. you got me. you got me, tiffany. i will say this, you and i know the 1619 project and nikole

hannah-jones well, but a lot of people don't. so i think this conversation you are about to have is just important because it will create context around it. my world is if you tell me information that i didn't know, you get my thanks for it. it doesn't have to be information i agree with, but if you tell me something that makes me smarter i say thank you for it. i good to see you, my friend. stick around for "the cross connection" coming up at 10 a.m. the last abortion clinic left in mississippi. its existence in that state is now threatened as the supreme court has taken on a case that goes against the very tenants of roe v. wade. that's next on "velshi." [truck horn blares] (vo) the subaru forester. dog tested. dog approved.

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one little pink house has become the center of the national debate over abortion. the u.s. supreme court has taken up a bid to ban women from getting an abortion. mississippi is already down to just 1 remaining abortion clinic. this is it. the jackson women's health organization, also known as the pink house. if the supreme court happens to rule in favor of the mississippi abortion ban, it would not outride overturn roe v. wade but it would trigger laws to chip

away from a woman's choice to choose. in texas you can't get an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. most women do not even know they are pregnant at that point. this is not the first time red states have tried to limit reproductive rights but this is the first time they've made the case to such a conservative core. nancy's organization will defend the right to abortion in the supreme court case. nancy, thank you for joining us. can you give me a little clarity about the implications of this particular case. it doesn't negate roe v. wade but it sets up a path to limiting abortions in america. >> yes. let's just start with the fact that it's really quite unacceptable that in 2021 there are states that are hell bent on denying women access to reproductive health care.

mississippi passed this law and it's a few weeks before the supreme court said they can bana borings. the united states court of appeals for the fifth circuit, they struck it down seeing it as clearly unconstitutional. the supreme court should have swatted this away and not taken it, but unfortunately they have taken it and put squarely the question of whether states can, indeed, ba abortion prior to feet tall viability. roe v. wade is on the line. as you pointed out, should the supreme court weaken the

protections that have been for almost 50 years. half the states in the united states are posed to ban abortion. that would just be tragic for the one in four women in the united states that make the decision in their lives that abortion is the right decision for them. >> so in a lot of these cases in the states, as you said, they passed laws that they knew were unconstitutional under the law as it stands now and sort of waited for the moment in which there would be five conservative judges on the supreme court because at that point that is a way in which the law changes. how does your approach change? how does the legal argument change when you know that you're not necessarily arguing on the legal merits, you're arguing from a court that may want to take the right away from them. >> we will still be arguing in the supreme court on the legal merits if the supreme court

follows, as they have, for 48 years their core decision in roe versus wade that the decision to end a pregnancy previability is a decision for the women. the court has reaffirmed this again and again, because it's so central to a woman's life and health and equality. her very ability to participate in the social and economic life and political life of the nation. the supreme court has said that and they have reaffirmed it again and again. so we will be making this argument, you know, based on the facts and the law to the supreme court and if precedent means anything, if the legitimacy of the supreme court and those justices who, you know, testified in their hearings about the importance of precedent, then this case -- we will still prevail. >> nancy, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. we'll continue to talk about

this. nancy northrup is the president and ceo of the center for reproductive rights. that does it for me. catch me back here tomorrow morning from 8 to 10 a.m. don't go anywhere "the cross connection with tiffany cross" begins right now. i was within 20 feet of these hooligans. it was one of the darkest moments in american democracy and yet not five months later many on the republican side are trying to whitewash what happened. my senate republican colleagues must now ask themselves are they going to join us in pursuing the truth or are they going to cover for donald trump and his big lie? >> i think they've answered. good morning. we have a lot to cover on "the cross connection" including this disturbing new police cam video in the ronald greene case and my

friend on the new controversy over nicole hannah jones and the 1619 project. we begin today's "cross connection" with republicans' assault on the truth and their continued fieldty on donald trump as they continue to honor the armed insurrection. only 35 house republicans voted to form a commission. to hear senator ron johnson tell it, the day five people were killed at the capitol just wasn't that big a deal. >> the fact of the matter is, even calling it insurrection, it wasn't. you know, i condemn the breach. i condemn the violence but to say there were thousands of insurrectionists, you know, breaching the capitol intent on overthrowing the government is simply false narrative. by and large it was peaceful protests except for there were a number of people basically agitators that whipped the crowd and b