tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC May 25, 2021 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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12 months ago the world witnessed the murder of george floyd. we commemorate that day by reflecting on all that has happened, not just in our nation, but in the world in regard to the issue that african-americans have fought against and struggled to change for generations. within 30 days after george floyd's murder we passed the george floyd justice act. his daughter said she hoped his father would never be forgotten, and he will not. the promotion for change in the house of representatives. it's an honor to be here with the family, but i stand here to renew the commitment we will get this bill on president biden's desk. what is important is that a
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substantive piece of legislation. that is far more important than a specific date. we will work until we get it done. it will be passed in a bipartisan manner. that's a commitment we are making. i would like to introduce mr. floyd's brother. >> i want to thank you all for inviting us here. [ inaudible ] -- we all said enough is enough. we need to be able to -- we need
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meaningful legislation. we need to get this taken care of because just like ghianna said -- [ applause ] >> y'all can see that we as adults should be able to pursue that. we should be able to work together. we need to be working together to make sure that people do not live in fear in america anymore. this is the land of the free. people fight to get here. give them that option to want to come here.
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[ inaudible ] so many people have stepped out and been working tremendously to push the issue. i thank y'all so much on behalf of our family today. thank you so much. [ applause ] >> they are going to see the president at the white house. but in the meantime they are going to the senate side. we will be looking to stay on schedule. we will welcome you next time. [ applause ] >> we are going to exit the same door we came in.
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>> all right. after their time at the capitol, you can see george floyd's family meeting with the house speaker nancy pelosi and karen bass, the congresswoman leading the negotiations on the police reform bill. the floyd family will head to the white house for discussion with president biden and vice president kamala harris. the bill still faces an uncertain future. and across america millions are honoring the man murdered by police officer derek chauvin. joining me now from minneapolis and capitol hill, and kristen welker and the moderator of washington week. >> garrett, i want to start with
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you. the family has repeatedly called for action from congress on police reform. we heard a little bit of that as they were heading into the meeting and spoke with our hill producers. what did you make of what we heard there? karen bass trying to underscore this was going to happen. she portrayed it as a certainty, that it would be bipartisan, and that it was okay that it wasn't on the deadline the president set, on the anniversary of george floyd passing, but she said they would get it done. >> she has been consistent that they would get to a deal, but the timeline has to be set aside that was set by the white house. you heard her say they will get it done and send it to the president's desk. that kind of optimism is the
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same thing we have been hearing from negotiators for the last couple weeks. they have kept the details close to their vest about what is hanging up the negotiations. qualifying immunity is the one we have been hearing about the most. but cory booker was describing the distance they have to travel to come to a deal. take a listen. >> i wish there was just one sticking point, but there are still gulfs to bridge. i am encouraged with my counterpart in the senate that we both have values. he talked about as a united states senator and his unfortunate encounters with law enforcement. we have to make progress. >> gulfs to bridge is not language you typically here when
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a deal is close. but tim scott thinks they can see the end of the tunnel on these discussions. scott is the indispensable man. i think most republicans could take it or leave it. scott is the one to deliver it. so he can tell where they are on a bill that could start moving again through these two chambers. >> it is such a unique position. the respect that tim scott has from his colleagues and one of the things he talked about in the speech was being stopped by a capitol police officer who didn't believe he was a member of the senate. this is a very significant moment here, a meet pg at the white house. the president tried to set a
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deadline. he was told by the members of congress, may be better if you stay out of the way and let us figure this out. what does congress think they have to do now. >> some top officials have acknowledged they would rather get a good deal than a deal by the deadline today. the president wants to meet with the floyd family. it will be focused on the family, focused on george floyd. they will be prepping the president to get something done as quickly as possible, but he will stay out of the way of lawmakers because of the urgent negotiations behind the scenes, the white house concern that it could potentially overstep. we know there were a number of options discussed about how
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president biden could mark this day. ultimately it is significant that they chose to focus on the family today. we will see if we hear from the floyd family after the meeting in terms of the negotiations on capitol hill. garrett hit the nail on the head, we don't know what is holding it up. qualified immunity is one of the things at the top of the list. and the thought that people could sue individual police departments rather than a person. it is not clear why there is so much optimism expressed by lawmakers. we know that capitol hill and lawmakers work best when there is a deadline. i spoke with one senior administration official who is engaged in all of this.
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they said they are hopeful that something would get done over the summer. >> you have interest groups on both sides, civil rights groups and police groups. at least the focus on the floyd family gives everyone a reason to double down. gabe, you are in minneapolis. there will be rallies in remembrance this afternoon. tell us what you have seen and heard ahead of the celebration of george floyd's life. >> the governor is calling for a period of silence, 9:29 to honor his life. in chicago at george floyd square, preparations for the remembrance here was interrupted because on the other side of the square there were about 30 gunshots heard. that's what our crew at the scene said.
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according to minneapolis police one person was shot, showed up later at a local hospital. injuries appeared to be nonlife threatening. but things are back to normal and people are preparing to honor george floyd's life. but that situation was interrupted a short time ago with about 30 gunshots fired. casey, bringing it back to george floyd's family, i spoke with two of his cousins just this week who say that they still feel the pain of his death a year later. take a listen. >> our hearts are still broken because we will never have him again to hug us or talk to us. but we are optimistic that some things have changed as a result of his death. >> are you frustrated congress hasn't acted quicker? >> it's a little discouraging
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for sure. but delayed is not denied. we will continue pushing forward. we will be continuing to hold people accountable until we get that bill signed. >> again, george floyd's cousins. they said they were disappointed. his sister saying the same thing. they wanted this police bill at the federal level to be passed by today. but preparations are under way for remembrances today. the mayor preparing for a period of silence, 9 minutes and 29 seconds of silence, the amount of time that former officer derek chauvin knelt on his neck. >> such a long time. gabe, we are glad you are safe and hope that everyone who is
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there joining the celebration stays safe as well. how far we have come in the past year. we wouldn't have been having these conversations before 2020. a lot of people are still calling for action and hoping that change is possible. >> george floyd's death a year ago after that officer knelt on his neck 9 minutes 29 seconds shifted the nation. the conversation changed. this breathed life into the black lives matter movement during a pandemic. so many coming to the movement, to the idea that systemic racism touches all parts of our lives, whether police killings of black men and women, but the health care system and education system.
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of course we have seen corporations and other people bring up that mantle of black lives matter. the things that stick with me is a year after george floyd's death black americans are still 2.5 to 3 times more likely to die at hands of police. i came back from speaking to the father of a teenager who died. that city has seen -- the st. louis police have killed more black people than any other municipality. that's why you see such a push for the george floipd justice and policing act. my eyes were fixed on the daughter who looked so pained and uncomfortable.
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there are so many others. that's the task that president biden has to figure out. he wanted it to be today and it wasn't. but it's that which reminds me, the look on the daughter today. >> kristen, one other question due to breaking news. >> we now know that president biden will meet with president putin on june 16. that will be on the heels of president biden heading to the nato summit. that comes amid the backdrop of mounting temperatures because of election interference in the 2020 election.
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welcome back. the justice department is fighting a full release about the mueller probe. they intended to appeal the full release. the former president's white house counsel is set to be interviewed by the house judiciary committee next week. pete williams joins us now. pete, why are they fighting full release and what have we learned from what they did put out? >> two issues, the freedom of
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legal information act which is what was used. they said predecisional documents meant to advise are exempt. they said how could it be unconstitutional. they said no, what the attorney general was to decide, if the president could be indicted, would the information support the indictment. the first part explains the purpose, but the rest of it is still blacked out. that's what the government is appealing. what the judge says -- she has seen the whole thing -- said the memo was meant to guide why the
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justice department wouldn't indict the president. and the government says that's not what we are fighting. >> don mcgann will be interviewed. >> we won't be able to see it. the ruling was he would appear before the committee in a closed session and answer questions about what the mueller report says about the back and forth, over whether he should continue his work, so forth. then the transcript would be recorded and released probably within a few days would be my guess. we won't see it or hear it, but we can read it. >> pete williams, thank you, as always. appreciate your reporting.
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moderna announced today their vaccine was safe and effective for kids 12 to 17. that could set up approval just in time for young people just before heading back to school this fall. more and more schools are announcing full return. and colleges announce plans for students to arrive back on campus. many requiring vaccines. >> this system is huge, more
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than a million students and 33 campuses. they will be requiring vaccines in the fall only if the agencies get full fda approval. in the meantime they are mandating masks and there is study remote. i asked about why full fda approval. he said it was mostly a legal reason. at stanford they are requiring vaccines for anybody coming in the fall. a visitor or anybody from overseas also needs to be vaccinated. this is the case at about 412 campuses across the country. it is mostly political. no flagship universities in typically red leaning states are requiring this.
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this is organized by big conservative groups. schools and colleges are trying to offer incentives. one college offering $1,000 to go towards books and tuition as well. we talked to berkeley. this is what they said. >> we offered exclusive online performances in performing arts, talked to athletics about offering some exclusive event passes for athletic events. and we are exploring larger incentives. >> so, casey, i asked him if he was excited for the fall, for energy to return to campus. he said, yes, he loves everything about it, but he said we are not there yet when it comes to pre-covid normal. he said about 30% of student
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populations have been vaccinated, but he thinks those numbers are higher. those are only the ones vaccinated with the university or uploaded their vaccine cards. >> thank you. now another update. the fbi is cracking down on skies. they have doled out $250,000 in fines for people showing dangerous behavior. >> cal, i can't believe the things people are capable of. what kind of incidents has the faa been addressing? >> this is a weekly occurrence, the faa putting out these batches of fines. we can throw some examples on the screen. when you talk to insiders of the
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industry, they will tell you alcohol is number one and masks number two. if you look at the overall numbers, 2500 cases of unruly behavior since the beginning of this year 1900 having to do with masks. it seems like a confrontation point between some passengers. if you look at the number from the beginning of the year. we are used to seeing 150 to 200 incidences in an entire year. homeland security speaking about how they would handle this over the summer. take a listen. >> we are not going to tolerate behavior that threatens the well-being of the public, the employees that are bravely on the front lines to facilitate the travel for individuals who want to reunite with friends and family. >> casey, it's probably all the more shocking when you consider
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we are about 30% down, not year over year, but this year over 2019 passenger levels. as we approach summer, a lot of people are planning family vacations. >> a lot of children unvaccinated, concern for families, and a lot about behavior to contend with. cal perry, thanks for your reporting. and secretary of state blinken is in the middle east. andrea mitchell is traveling with the secretary. we will have more coming up next. we will have more coming up next when considering another treatment ask about xeljanz, a pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis when methotrexate has not helped enough. xeljanz can help relieve joint pain and swelling, stiffness, and helps stop further joint damage, even without methotrexate.
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is in the middle east trying to maintain the fragile cease-fire while at the same time getting help to the people of gaza and bypass hamas who the u.s. calls a terrorist organization. >> in total we are in the process of providing more than $360 million support for the palestinian people. across these efforts we will work with partners to ensure that hamas does not benefit from the use of these reconstruction efforts. >> -- headed by the u.s. so we can reach ever lasting peace in the region. >> blinken's first stop today
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was to meet with israeli prime minister netanyahu. >> if they break the calm, our response to be very powerful. we have worked to prevent hamas's rearment. >> we have to begin with tackling the humanitarian situation in gaza. >> andrea mitchell is in the region and filed this report for us. >> casey, i am covering secretary blinken he is first meeting with the palestinian authority mack abass.
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they look to gain their confidence and find out what they are willing to do about corruption that has been endemic in their organization. but also figuring out how they can be helpful, if at you will, in getting aid to gaza. their rivals, hamas, are in control in gaza. what the u.s. is determined to do is make sure that any humanitarian aid to gaza to help rebuild it does not get into hamas hands and does not again go to buy weapons. that's why he spent so much time in israel meeting with prime minister netanyahu but also meeting with the defense minister and foreign minister getting into the nitty-gritty what israel is trying to do to
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reach out to the palestinians when they haven't talked to them for four years during the trump administration. and trying to get reassurances of the same from the palestinians. and that is why he is so far behind schedule and why i am not there with you today. >> we will be looking for that press conference coming up from secretary blinken in a few moments. our thanks to andrea for that. denouncement of belarus of forcing an airliner to stop. molly has the latest. the pressure from the international community. is it doing anything to change the situation here in belarus?
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>> at the moment, no. you have a paranoid powerful dictator. he has just snatched a commercial flight out of the sky with a fighter jet and bomb threat. all for a journalist. all that is happening at the moment. eu has banned flights over their airspace and flights are banned over bela-russian air. president biden called it outrageous. boris johnson demanding the release. officials are angry. they want to do more. the ryanair ceo used the same words, state hijacking. all we know about him being
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taken was this video released overnight. from a script. he was under duress. he was coerced to admit to guilt. he faces 15 years in prison. the other thing we are chasing at this hour is bela-russian are chasing a conversation between the pilots and minsk tower which told them to divert and land in minsk. we have put this to authorities and to ryanair. they said they are not commenting. this is all part of a huge investigation and we will keep you posted. >> incredibly important story. molly hunter, thanks very much for being with us today. coming up next, demanding action one year after george floyd's death. his family calling for congress to move on police reform.
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welcome back. more than 30 states have enacted new police reform law since george floyd. in los angeles the lapd budget was cut but restored days ago when the city hired an additional 250 officers. and growing frustration in cities like louisville where there has been no charges brought against any of the officers involved in breonna taylor's death. or garner's death when he was put in a chokehold for selling cigarettes. >> this is something no one wants to be a part of. we live every day with this pain. >> and in the last hour former
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president obama urging people not to give up tweeting when injustice runs deep, progress takes time, but if we can run words into action and action into meaningful reform, we will, in the words of james balancedwin, cease fleeing from reality and get to change it. >> thank you to all of you for being with us this afternoon. george floyd's family in washington is demanding action from congress. i want to play for everyone what his son and daughter had to say this hour on capitol hill. >> we need to get this taken care of. because just like g she said --
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>> my dad will change the world. >> my question to each of you. are you satisfied with reform efforts so far and what should be done at the former level? >> not even close. as long as we have situations like in louisiana or north carolina, we haven't started the process yet. i want to see that we put together a national training reform program that we put out to the states that we can adopt. we have to put a little money to it to pay for it so it is not a burden and no more excuses and change the program training across the country and part of that would be transparency of the departments where we see it
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not happening time and again. in south carolina it's an act of defiance. i want to push through my experience not just as a police officer or civil lucky ones. when i saw what happened to george floyd, i had to get off the sidelines and get involved. >> jhene, let me put that question to you as well. what needs to be done? >> we need the immediate passage of the george floyd justice in policing act. it is shameful we're still looking for solutions to a problem we know existed before george floyd's tragic murder and will continue to persist and have persisted following his murder. the death toll, body count of black people in america, women and men who have been killed by police unjustly, continues to rise. and it won't be if we do not have more accountability, we do
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not track officers to ensure they could not be redeployed in other police departments once they are found to have committed misconduct. and if we don't start to affect the funding that goes to police departments that ultimately militarizes them and arms them in a way that puts them directly at odds and in a confrontational stance, vis-a-vis the public. the only way to end this crisis in policing is to engage in this overhaul of the policing in law enforcement apparatus in this country, as we also reimagine public safety entirely. that is the bigger project that we must begin and begin in earnest now. >> wes moore, you have warn a military uniform. what in your view is the most important change that's under discussion here? is it that militarization
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question? is it qualified immunity? what is your view? >> it's all of it. i think when we look at things we are seeing with the george floyd justice in policing act -- and part of the reason why this piece of legislation is so important, whether we talk about providing grants to state's attorney generals to create an independent process to investigate misconduct, whether establishing a federal registry of police misconduct or complaints, it's restricting the use of military equipment to police, mandating that federal officers use deadly force as a lft resort. it's difficult to parse out what we are seeing in the bill and what's the most important element because there's a reason all of those elements have made it inside the bill. the reason is because we continue to see these incidents happen, where all of these factors and all of these indicators are the reason and becoming the consequence for these type of interactions that we see between police and also between civilians. so as we're thinking about it
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from a federal side, it's important we get this bill passed. it's also incredibly important we understand the real there were over 10 million arrests across the united states last year and the vast majority of them were done at the state and local level. we need federal leadership but we cannot let our states and local governments off the hook on this item. >> of course, control of funding can really help with states and local laws as well. jhene janine olsen, let me ask you about the uptick in violence we've seen, some of it pandemic related. but, of course, runs into what we see as pressure on police departments. how do we balance those two things, increase in violence with making sure the police departments are acting in an upstanding way? >> well, one thing that we have never done as a society is truly unpack the social supports that are necessary to combat crime, adding more police, adding armed
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officers does not solve the problem. it is countering what is a much broader societal challenge with ab increase in the presence of potential violence in communities that actually need more support. we know that the pandemic has produced significant issues of mental health, of economic desperation, and so many other factors that have produced what is an uptick in crime. some of it is a bit exaggerated based on some of the numbers that i have seen. but even to the extent that you believe in the uptick in crime, the solution is not to increase the police presence. the solution is to think about ways to divert people from the actions that are harmful to public safety and give them the social support that can allow them to thrive as individuals. we have to get away from this focus on punishment, and this
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focus on combating violence and threats to public safety with more violence. that is not a solution that makes any of us safer. >> wes moore, let me give you a quick last word, big picture. you've done a lot of work on education around these issues for people, for police officers, et cetera. what's the big-picture solution? >> the big-picture solution is that we have to remember that this discourse, as janai was saying, the policing aspect is important. but we cannot let an exclusive focusing on policing let off the hook the economic conditions, the educational challenges, the housing and transportation challenges that in many ways have been co-conspirators in the death of mr. george floyd and in the death of many other names that went before him. we have to understand that we
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need an increase in humanity, in the way we talk about all of the other supports or communities need in order to help us come to a better future. >> wes moore, janai, thank you all very much. and andrea mitchell will be back from the middle east tomorrow. coming up shortly, we will see secretary blinken's news conference from the middle east. and follow us on facebook, twitter. but don't go anywhere, because chuck todd is up next with "mpt daily" only here on msnbc. y her. who built the most reliable network in america. thousands of smarter towers, with the 5g coverage you need. broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds. next-generation servers with superior network reliability. because the more you do with 5g, the more your network matters. it's us...pushing us. it's verizon...vs verizon.
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i thought i'd seen it all. ( ♪♪ ) welcome to tuesday. it is "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. as the floyd family, white house, lawmakers on capitol hill, and communities across the country are honoring george floyd in keeping the focus on the fight for social justice as america marks the one-year anniversary of his murder at the hands of a police officer. right now we are awaiting the start of a white house meeting with the floyd family and the president. that is scheduled for later this hour. at the same time the busy day, we're also monitoring developments in the middle east where the secretary of state antony blinken has been meeting with israeli and palestinian leaders all day, as the tenuous cease-fire agreement is still
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