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tur. as we come on the air the president and vice president are meeting with the family of george floyd on the one year anniversary of his murder, and the governor issued a proclamation asking minnesotans to pause. millions of americans taking to the streets amid a global pandemic to stand together and say enough is enough. now on this solemn day the country is taking stock of what has and has not changed over the past year. while the national dialogue on racial justice and policing may have shifted significantly there has been no grand compromise on police reform on capitol hill despite president biden's call last month to have a bill ready by today. democrats and republicans say they are making progress in good faith but there are still many
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hurdles to pass before a bill can make its way to president biden's desk. floyd's family met earlier today with house speaker, nancy pelosi, and a bill that will craft legislation that bears george floyd's name. >> it's far more important than a specific date. >> the senate needs to get this taken care of, because just like gianna said -- >> joining us now from washington are nbc news white house correspondent, monica alba, and from minneapolis, nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster. that moment of silence is under way. set the scene for us. . >> reporter: the moment of
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silence being led by the governor. i will let you take a look over here, and he's not here yet but the family -- you can still hear the music, i'm sure, and they are preparing to have the nine minute and 29 second moment of silence. this is being hosted by the george floyd memorial foundation. there are vendors, and walk-up covid vaccines taking place here. i spoke to bridget employed, the younger sister of george floyd about what the purpose is what the intention is for this event, and it's for people to come together and think about her brother, and it's also about where they take this and what they do with this moment. i want you to take a listen to the conversation i had with her in the past hour. >> i thought george's death was going to be the last death at the hands of policemen, but as
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we all have seen, the names has been added on and on and on. just a few hours after the verdict daunte wright was killed by the hands of policemen. i don't think that we have really seen a change, a change that we want. >> that message that you hear from bridget is something that i have heard from people attending this event, and i spoke a man that said the conviction of chauvin was a relief for us, and he said we want the urgency to be clear for the political leaders, not just here in minnesota, not just here in minneapolis but across the country, and that's the message you are seeing and that's why you have the george floyd family marking this day in washington, d.c. >> over to you at the white house, monica. we both know based on our
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reporting that the white house for the last few weeks had been trying to figure out how they were going to try and mark the day and ultimately they decided to have the private sit-down between president biden and members of the floyd family, and president biden taped a message, and his first visit from his home during the pandemic was to floyd's family, members of his family in texas, and he talked by phone with the floyd family during the chauvin trial. give us a sense of what we expect to see later from the white house today and how they are marking this moment? >> the president was hoping for a legislative celebration, jeff, in addition to, of course, the celebration of life and this movement that has grown out of the memory of george floyd, but the white house inviting members of his family to come and meet with the president and vice president behind closed doors so they could have a, quote, real conversation. this is not something where we are going to see all of them come before the cameras, instead it's so the cameras could offer
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an opportunity to update them where the police reform talks stand. right now they got their own briefing today on capitol hill, and this is a white house that is acknowledging the president's self imposed deadline for this came and went and they are trying to say they want to give the negotiators a ton of room to finalize everything. they don't want to apply more political pressure because they don't want to derail what now seems to be in terms of the progress from senator cory booker and tim scott a light at the end of the tunnel for where this can become a reality. the president says he's eager to sign it into law whenever it comes to his desk, and they hope it's soon and the white house press secretary, jen psaki, said she did not want to assign anytime line to this and said they would like to see it happen in the coming weeks or months if not sooner than that. this meeting today is very significant because you are going to see the president meet with these families members for the first time as the president of the united states.
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you mentioned, of course, they had these conversations in the past, but this is a president who has himself suffered such great loss, and he's really an empathizer in chief so we can expect him to connect with the floyd family today on that level and again for them to try and say there's some optimism about where police reform stands on capitol hill, even though what the president called for in his joint address is not something that will become a reality today, which a lot of people said is okay because the priority is to get everything they want in the legislation and bill rather than trying to rush it through on this critical date for the one year anniversary of george floyd's death. >> thanks to the both of you. we will continue this conversation now with shaw rita tate, the cousin of george floyd and president of the floyd foundation, and reverend al sharpton. big welcome to the both of you.
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ms. tate, i'll start with you. first, my condolences for you and your family on this date, and for so many of us george floyd has become a symbol but he was your cousin, so how is the day landing for you? >> i think i'm doing about as good as could expect for today, and my emotions have been a little bit all over the place. i have had an opportunity to go out to george floyd square this morning and so i think i'm just taking it all in. >> reverend al, i wonder if you can, as you do so well, assess the moment for us. you have delivered eulogies for andre hill, george floyd, daunte wright, michael gardener, and what do you say about the
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legislation and what is agreed to, and we know it will be the panda sia? >> we are at the press apea, and the question is whether the government will meet the will of the people. i talked by phone last evening with president biden who was saying to me that he did not want to look like he was putting political pressure on and wants to meet with the civil rights leader on this after he meets with the family but didn't want to look like he was being heavy handed because he feels there's progress. we need progress. i told them we didn't care about a hard deadline but we care about a hard bill, and this must stop. even as i joined her and bridget and the family foundation on
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sunday in minneapolis, i said then we can never give them their loved one back, but we can have their loved one go down in history as the one that turned this around. they will always miss george, and they will be able to tell their children that george changed where we are in this country. >> reverend, the mother of eric gardener, she discussed disappointment with the lack of police reform legislation. take a listen and we'll talk on the other side. >> it's not over with because they are still killing our children. >> to you this is a broken promise? >> it is a broken promise. we need for our legislators to be more accountable, accountable to us and that's not happening. >> so what about that? you spoke to this in your earlier answer, this question of, you know, when it comes to this bill we heard congresswoman
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karen bass say meeting the symbolic deadline is not as important as having a substantive piece of legislation? >> i think she's right and it was that determination that got the eric gardener bill, and the mayor and others were just here and we took nine minutes and 29 seconds on our knee to stand with george floyd to say that the federal government must do what new york has done and that is legislation is law. she's right, it has been promised but it's not there. we're a year later and the foundation is there still in minneapolis doing what is right and nothing has been done right legislatively for them. just like the civil rights act of 1964, even though it happened years before, the killing of
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jackson led to the voting rights act and george floyd must lead to the policing act otherwise we have not led the moment and blacks, whites, young and old are saying this is the moment and we're not going to back up. >> will you and the family support any bill that emerges over in capitol hill, or do you have a red line? are there conditions, for example, ending protection for police officers that you want to see included in this legislation? >> i think that, you know, one of the things that we have been asked over and over again is whether we had a concern about the deadline being met, and we certainly do not because we would like for the bill to be one of substance and to have those components in it like the qualified immunity. that is what we want to see. just because it hasn't come to pass or come to fruition at this point, we look at it as delayed and not denied and we hope they
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will move forward and do the right thing. >> and as president of the george floyd memorial foundation, ten years from now when people say the name george floyd what do you want to come to peoples' minds? >> i think i would like for them to think about the fact that the loss of his life was the catalyst for the movement that we can really look forward to having some true social justice change, and equality for all of us and that should be synonymous with his name, and prior to his death we had seen a countless number and certainly some that have come after him to die at the police officers, and my hope is one day when people think about him and say his name, they will think of the man that started the movement to get change for everybody. >> ms. tate and the reverend al sharpton, my sincere thanks to the both of you. meantime, house gop leaders,
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and marjorie taylor greene. and the faa warning about a surge of violence in the air. why are the skies less than friendly these days? we will go live to the middle east where the secretary of state made a major announcement about u.s. diplomacy amid a region in a fragile cease-fire. e go with us and get millions of flexible booking options. expedia. it matters who you travel with. nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g because we're the engineers expedia. who built the most reliable network in america. thousands of smarter towers, with the 5g coverage you need. broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds. next-generation servers with superior network reliability. because the more you do with 5g, the more your network matters. it's us...pushing us. it's verizon...vs verizon. and who wins? you.
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have had so far i've heard a shared recognition from all sides that steps need to be taken, work needs to be done to address the underlying conditions that help fuel this latest conflict. the cease-fire creates space to begin to take those steps. attending to the urgent humanitarian needs of palestinians in gaza to help rebuild is a key starting point. >> a significant announcement
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today from secretary of state, tony blinkin, and joining us now from tel aviv is nbc news foreign correspondent, kelly cobiella. what more can you tell us about the meeting with abbas and the rest of tony blinkin's agenda? >> talked to him in the joint statement, anyway, and afterwards he said the two talked about a whole range of issues, about the u.s.'s new commitment to the palestinians, and the u.s. has not been speaking to the palestinians for four years during the trump administration, at least not officially, and the commitment to the palestinians in terms of aid, rebuilding gaza and also the rights of palestinians as
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well as israelis to live in peace, security and also to have opportunity and dignity. i guess those were the big headlines and themes that appeared not just when the secretary of state was talking with president abbas but also when he was issuing this joint statement with israeli prime minister netanyahu. he said this is the starting point, rebuilding gaza, and the u.s. is going to be committed also financially, and president biden would be asking congress for $75 million in additional aid to go to the palestinian cause including 5.5 million that would be immediate aid, so he's seeing that the focal point for solidifying the cease-fire. >> a growing condemnation is
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growing over the dictator in belarus over the forced grounding of a commercial flight and the arrest of a dissident onboard. the details from onboard that plane are enough to give you the chills. from "the new york times" they report this, for most passengers it seemed at first just to be a delay that happens with airline travel, and for one passenger the situation was clear. an opposition journalist who had been living in exile since 2019 started to panic, and he said i know the death penalty awaits me in belarus, and one passenger said it was quickly apparent the alleged bomb threat was a rouse. they did not let us out for half an hour. if there was a bomb on the plane why did they not let us out? that was the reporting by the
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morning times. joining us is molly hunter. the journalist was shown on state tv confessing to crimes, and his face appeared to be bruised and there's fear he is facing torture. what more can you tell us about here? >> that video came out overnight and he did appear to have bruises and scratches on his head, and human rights experts, anybody who has been familiar and watching this regime in the last couple of years are saying that statement was most likely under duress and false, and the charges he faces carry 15 years in prison. >> nbc's molly hunter, thank you. meanwhile the white house confirmed today president biden and vladimir putin will meet face-to-face next month and the summit will happen on geneva, switzerland on june 16th, and the meeting comes with the two
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georgia congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene, seems to have finally crossed the line with republican leadership. house leaders are now both condemning her latest controversial comments that compared covid mask rules at the capitol to the holocaust. it strikes me that house republican leaders are finally responding to what marjorie taylor greene had to say five days later. they are using kid gloves, i think, because she is representing where the base of the republican party is right
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now. >> yeah, i think marjorie taylor greene, this is one of many outrageous statements she has yesterday, irreprehensible and many leaders have called her out on it, and you see her just double and triple down. the real question is going to be what does kevin mccarthy do, and a statement saying he condemns the language is one thing, but is he going to have a meeting with her, and there's a member of the democrat party wants to have a censure for her. >> is that sort of the only other thing they could do? they already lost her committee assignments, so what would punishing her even look like apart from the censure? >> there's expulsion, of course. i don't know if you will see republicans take that kind of
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measure, and there's the pressure that you could see you have not yet of members saying it is time for her to go. right now you see an across the board folks saying this is reprehensible and condemning the language, and nobody is saying it's time for her to go and that's often times what happens in these situations, it's rarely where you see a member so often cross the line where she does, like she takes pride in it at this point. >> absolutely. >> appreciate you as always. big developments today in two long-standing legal fights related to mueller's russia report, and don mcgahn could be testifying next week, and the doj is appealing a judge's order to release the full memo.
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joining us now are associated press white house reporter and msnbc political analyst, jonathan mere, and john weissman. i remember covering the first impeachment of donald trump the white house ignored the house subpoena for mcgahn's testimony and they were thinking it will end up in the courts and take a couple years to resolve and here we are a couple years later, and what potentially does don mcgahn now have to tell house democrats? >> you are right, jeff. you and i covered that impeachment closely and the white house strategy was to just say no to not cooperate with any of the requests from the house and impeachment lawyers to try and stonewall that effort, and the white house counsel don mcgahn is somebody who we know
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was in the room for a lot of key moments in the trump administration. we know that he was part of the decision when the president decided to fire james comey. we know that he talked the president out of firing others, including jeff sessions, the attorney general, and including one move when the president thought he would try and oust mueller himself. and mcgahn is somebody people have wanted to hear for for a long time, and what he has to say could be explosive. >> white house counsel represents the white house, and he didn't represent trump but the office of presidency, and now you have don mcgahn going to testify before the house. >> well, i think that the precedent is a good one because these are public servants and so long as the questioning is not
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going to get into material that is covered by executive privilege, public servants have a responsibility to report what they are doing when asked by oversight committees in congress. i think this is the way democracy is going to and should work. i think we'll see more of that in this administration. i think that the story overnight about the department of justice releasing in part doj memo under attorney general barr, and also fighting to keep part of it under seal shows the apolitical nature of the current administration, meaning they are willing to -- part of this for the sake of executive privilege should apply whether it's a democratic or republican
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administration. i see them putting their money where their mouths are in terms of not putting politics over what the law should be. >> what does it mean for the country, though? what does it mean for the history books we might never know why trump era appointed doj officials chose not to charge him with obstruction of justice in the mueller investigation? >> well, i think that is important, but just remember that is something that what attorney general barr decided was not actually that question because a sitting president under doj policy cannot be indicted, so one of the questions for attorney general barr is why even bother issuing that statement, because what he was really saying is future attorney generals should make this decision. it really is for the current attorney general to decide what should or should not happen with
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respect to the former president. one of the things that was revealed in the documents that was revealed late last night is that attorney general barr had no business at all opining on this because he was really opining on a hypothetical future situation, which means he was really doing it for political reasons which may be second nature to all of you, but for somebody who has been in the department for over 20 years it's really shocking to see that kind of decision being made by the attorney general when it really was not before him. >> picking up on andrew's point, jonathan, that the way attorney general merrick garland has handled this is fairly instructive of how the biden administration sees how to handle the disputes from the trump days. >> precisely. trump felt like he could get him
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at times to do his bidding, and at times they were. when the mueller report was concluded it was the letter from barr that framed the narrative and he misinterpreted and put it in the best possible light for president trump to shape the idea he did nothing wrong and we saw the president grab that with both hands and run with it, and the real truth was far more subtle than that, he didn't clear him but did not decide to charge him one way or the other, and it's a different approach now with attorney general garland and this department of justice. they want the process to play out and are trying to keep the politics out of it, and that's difficult in washington, as we know. there are certainly some that want to see the department of justice come down on former president trump and his family and business. right now they are just trying to do day by day and do it by the book and take the politics
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the murder of george floyd prompted a racial reckoning in this country including renewed discussions about how we speak about issues of race with our children, and a fight over race history and education is spreading over republican-controlled state houses with the ban of what is known as critical race theory. we travel to oklahoma where the governor sign add new bill that made some school teachers worried they may lose their jobs. joining me now is antonia hilton
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reporting on the issue as part of a partnership with sky news. how are teachers reacting to this? >> reporter: teachers tell me since the murder of george floyd, students have come to the classrooms wanting to talk and debate about racism and bias in america, but now as the bills get introduced in different states, teachers are worried some of the conversations they have will soon be deemed illegal. anthony crawford worries he could lose his job. he teaches where a new state law is set to ban certain teachings of race, bias and history. >> racism is where you take up all of these entities as a society and are controlled by one ethnic group, right? >> reporter: a growing chorus of
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republicans use the phrase to describe diversity training and historical teachings they see as divisive. it bans concepts that leads students to feel discomfort. >> we're talking about a law. >> kevin west was one of the authors of oklahoma's bill. >> no teacher shall require or make part of a course the following concepts, an individual by virtue of his or her race or sex bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex. >> i certainly never heard a teacher say those things. >> we can agree or disagree on how far this is happening in oklahoma. >> over the last few months lawmakers in more than a dozen states had advance measures to
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ban the teaching of race critical and a reckoning over diversity and inclusion in americans schools. one of the founders of critical race theory thinks this is only the beginning. >> i have been trying to tell people for at least six months that the effort to respond to the reckoning of last summer was going to metastasize into a backlash, and i thought, okay, so they found their boogie man. >> as they bills pass around the country, what do you think will happen? >> before we know it students of color as well as white students are going to have an education that is less robust than we have even right now. >> is this law going to change teacher behavior? >> it has to, because now if a teacher don't want to lose their job, they will be, okay, i don't want to go there and talk about
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this knowing it could be possibly a lawsuit or a possible way for me to lose my job, so i know a lot of teachers will move a lot differently. >> crawford encourages students in his classroom to debate race and history intensely. >> imagine a class where they don't talk about racism. >> how are you going to teach american history without speaking about racism? >> because you cannot talk about american history without speaking about racism. you cannot do it. >> their whole thing was we should not teach it in class because it makes other ethnicities feel bad. >> that sucks. sorry, that sucks. >> i feel bad but i can't feel bad for something i didn't do, and you can't hate somebody because of what their parents did. >> he said he will still talking about america's complicated history as he sees fit. >> this bill will be in place for this upcoming school year, so teachers and administrators
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are having conversations about how this might change the materials they use or the conversations they have at school. at millwood high, the superintendent is telling the teachers she has their backs and wants to continue talking about the uncomfortable subjects about race and history no matter what the law says and how it's applied. >> one wonders how teachers can teach accuracy with a law like this. coming up next, a new cdc report on break through cases, makes it clear the vaccines are working. and then the less than friendly skies. the surge of violence in the air. stay with us. in the air. stay with us 14 day system. with a painless, onesecond scan i can check my glucose without fingersticks. now i'm managing my diabetes better and i've lowered my a1c from 8.2 to 6.7.
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virus. a u.s. intelligence report identified three researchers at a wuhan lab that sought treatment at a hospital after falling ill in november 2019. a source familiar with the matter telling that to nbc news. joining us now is telling nbc n. the doctor a surge at brigham and women's hospital. serving on the biden covid advisory board. thanks for joining us. i want to start with the issue of breakflew cases. cdc is reporting a fraction of people fully vaccinated still somehow contract covid-19. how does that happen? and what does it mean as we are, it looks like, turning the corner from this pandemic? >> well, it's a really tiny number. some breakflew cases are to be expected, especially through people who are frail or have less immune function in their health system. we know, for example, transplant recipients vaccinated on
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immunosuppressant medications to prevent rejection of origins they don't get response to the vaccine. there's in the range of 1 million plus people who get the vaccination and don't have a full response and have some risk for a huge -- the vast majority of the public gets an extraordinary -- it's extraordinarily effective vaccine. >> yeah. well, let's talk about the origins of covid-19 which are under closer scrutiny now which was once a conspiracy theory about the virus escaping a lab in china is now on the front page of the werele. what do you make about these possibilities and the fact that the virus was not naturally owe occurring? >> well, there's two things to separate here. we want to -- it continues to be very unlikely that this virus was manufactured. however, we know that that coronaviruses that were new coronaviruses were kept in the
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wuhan institute for virus -- for viral studies. and you know, it has become credible that an accident may have led to an infection in that -- in the workers. and it may have gotten out. it still has a lot of questions about whether that's true. but it's gone from being a conspiracy idea that there's an intentional creation of a virus, to perhaps an accident letting a new virus that was in storage there get out. >> do you think the u.s. government discounted this theory too soon? dr. fauci says it's imperative to investigate. >> i do think it's imperative to investigate. i think that the government did not dismiss it too soon, when it was a question of did the chinese manufacture this virus in their facility, we don't see the signatures to indicate something like that. however, the ongoing push to get
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the w.h.o. to work with the chinese to open up investigation and access to data about what might have happened and when is turning out to be an important push. >> dr. atul gawande, thanks for the insight. the fda is investigating 2500 reports of passengers behaving badly since the start of this year. over a. cal year -- look at that -- they usually get about 150 cases. just this week, a southwest flight attendant lost two teeth after being attacked by a passenger on a trip from sacramento to san diego. joining me now is an nbc news correspondent cal perry joining us from reagan national airport in virginia. cal, that video is shocking to watch. that was the first time i've seen it. so what's going on here? >> reporter: yeah, so it seems to be a combination of things. i spoke to somebody inside the
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industry last night, they really said alcohol and masks. we have this new batch of fines, the fda putting out fines every week. this video you can see is one of those altercations on a plane. wearing a mask, they escorted folks off the plane. this recent batch of fines, alcohol-related two of the five and three of the five mask related. and the mask seems to be a point of contention when it comes to the passengers. the mask mandate will remain in place. we heard today from the department of homeland security saying they will not hesitate to both levy fines and arrest people if the situation gets out of control. and those numbers are pretty staggering. 2500 reports of unruly behavior so far this year. we're used to 150 to 200 over the course of an entire year. so 500 a month is an alarming rate. all of this comes, of course, as we approach summertime. this is a holiday weekend next
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weekend. something for folks to keep their eyes on. we're still down 30%. passenger numbers, still 30%. year over year, 2019, we expect that to pick up over the summer. again, the faa says that mask mandate will stay in place as more families start to travel. geoff. >> cal, where i sit, you got more people flying, the tsa says the mask mandate is going to stay in effect until september. if people aren't getting fines, and if fines aren't a deterrent, we're going to see more fights like this, unfortunately, it seems. >> reporter: in speaking to a member of the flight members association she was saying you have people going on leisure trips, less work trips, involving a lot of alcohol. again, with the services down on the plane, you're seeing people bring alcohol on board. they're buying alcohol at the bars and airports, bringing it on planes, then drinking too much. that seems to be causing a lot
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of problems, geoff. >> all right. i have to keep my head on a swivel next time i fly somewhere for work. that will to it for this hour, ayman mohyeldin picks up our coverage, coming up next.
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