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it's good to see you. i'm jeff bennet in for my friend katy tur, and we begin today on capitol hill where senate republicans have narrowly blocked a bill to create a bipartisan commission for the insurrection on capitol hill. only seven republicans voted in favor of the bill after minority leader mitch mcconnell signaled he would not vote for it. that was a message for others to do the same. pat toomey said he would be the seventh one in favor, but he did not vote for the commission.
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30 voted for the commission over in the house. mitch mcconnell said a commission would be inherently partisan and would only continue from president trump's second impeachment trial. senator cassidy said he supported the bill to prevent a partisan issue. >> are they more likely to trust a commission hand-picked by speaker pelosi or one picked by a bipartisan vote? >> after the vote today, majority leader chuck schumer took republicans to task about what he framed as fear of donald trump. >> i'm just terribly disappointed that so many republicans refuse to even look at a bipartisan, down the middle look at it because they're afraid of donald trump.
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donald trump is a bane to our democracy. and unless people in his own party stand up to him, it's bad for the party, it's bad for those individuals, but most of all, it's bad for the country. >> schumer says he's reserving the right to reintroduce the legislation in the future. we're talking about all this right now with simon kippur. simon, i'll start with you. of that group, who were the surprises? >> jeff, it was cassidy, portman and sasse who had not formally said they would vote yes to break a filibuster, and pat toomey said he would vote for a motion to proceed but he was absent, according to his office.
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>> what does this all mean? on the one hand it shows donald trump still has an iron grip on the republican party, but it also shows republicans -- democrats, rather -- gave republicans everything they wanted in this bill and republicans ended up blocking it, anyway. >> yeah, it was all about politics. it was all about 2022. this is mcconnell and his leadership and his entire hierarchy. even mcconnell doesn't like trump and doesn't want to talk about trump anymore. he knows that if he did this, you know, this is going to be just dragging trump into 2022. it's going to happen, anyway. trump is going to drag himself into 2022 but he doesn't want the discussion to be about what happened on january 6. what was the low point for republicans, it was a disaster for the parties, a disaster for the country, and, you know, mcconnell was clear. he doesn't want republicans to be complicit in doing that, at least politically. >> schumer held a press
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conference last hour, and he said he's going to bring this bill back up. it's not clear to me how they'll find a different result. what do you know based on your reporting on that front? >> he can bring it back up. i don't think anything will change. you know, we had six votes for it. senator toomey, who is retiring so trump can't threaten him, also said he would go for it. in a sense, this is a free vote. if you know there are not 60 votes to go ahead with it, some of these republicans can turn around. i was a little surprised about sasse. he had not said what he was going to do. portman was clearly on the fence, toomey, too, was on the fence. this could come up in a lot of different ways. we'll see more discussion about this, and as schumer mentioned, nancy pelosi will have to make a decision about a select
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committee or does she let her standing committees do it, do senate committees get involved? now democrats are going to be pushing subpoenas, possibly even to members, or to trump himself. so we'll see what happens. >> joe manchin spoke to nbc today and he sounded pretty frustrated with mitch mcconnell. manchin, as you know, he's the person keeping this fiibuster alive. he's the person standing in the way of democrats having a 51 vote. what is your understanding? >> it showed, of course, the strength that donald trump continues to exert over this party, because remember, it was one day after trump put out a statement coming out against this commission that mitch mcconnell also came out against it and started lobbying his republican members to vote against it. he was successful on that front. it has implications for the future of bipartisanship. many democrats are less confident they can continue to
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work with republicans, they can't even get bipartisan support on a commission to investigate the insurrection on the capitol that put all of their safety and some of their lives in danger. the only prominent supporter of bipartisanship in the vote is senator joe manchin of west virginia. our team caught up with him earlier. he sounded very disillusioned about mitch mcconnell in particular. take a listen to what he said. >> mitch mcconnell makes it extremely difficult. and there's no excuse. it's pure raw politics. and it's just so disheartening, really, really disheartening that politics, i'd never thought that i would see up close and personal the politics would trump our country. i'm going to fight so save this country. >> he has not said that this will motivate him to abolish the filibuster, but the chance of a 60-vote threshold saying alive
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given how disillusioned democrats are with the way republicans have behaved. with the january 6 attack, what will happen is democrats will investigate this themselves, with the committee they have in congress, without bipartisanship, which speaker pelosi really wanted and chuck schumer really wanted in order to debunk the fabrication theories that happened that day and that proliferated. >> salam kippur and, thank you. biden delivers remarks at joint base langley-eustis. let's take a listen. >> accurate stated, you are the backbone of the country. you are the backbone of the
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country. although our son beau was attorney general in the state of delaware and had spent nine months in kosovo trying to act as assistant u.s. attorney, trying to set up the criminal justice system. and i might say i can do this with the military. i'm going to brag about him a little bit. he's the only foreigner to have a war memorial erected to him in kosovo just below point monsdale just before the highway. he was proud as hell with his work. but then he had contracted an exposure to a virus when he was in kosovo from a turkey, a
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civilian, and he came back with a problem. but he kept going to walter reed. i couldn't understand why. they finally found ankylospondolytus. he kept going back, i couldn't understand why. he kept going back because he was trying to get an exemption to join the united states army. he was a sitting attorney general, and all my colleagues, the governor, bobbi scott, the congresswoman, they all know he kept going. he had to give up his seat temporarily. he could not have any business done, as you national guard folks know, you can't do any business with the state if, in fact, you're now federal
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property. and so he gave up the seat and had the courage to appoint the fellow who had been the republican attorney general as attorney general while he went. the proudest thing he ever did. the proudest thing he ever did. and he spent a year in iraq. and it was one of the great honors of his life to do it. won the bronze star, secret service award, many other medals like many of you have, but he never, ever talked about it. remember we had an event at the white house -- i shouldn't be talking so much about my son, but i'm not going to apologize for it. we had an event for iraqi veterans at the white house. the president, without telling me, jill invited beau to be there with another 75 soldiers
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and sailors and airmen. but he wouldn't wear any of his decorations. and general oriano called him and said, put them on now. swear to god. walking out of the residence, he wouldn't put them on. that's the first time i ever saw the bronze star on him. but i'm telling you that he's like a lot of you. you do your duty. you don't expect anything for it except for people to have general respect. you deserve so much more. you deserve so much more. and, you know, i'm honored to be joined today by governor northam, by two great representatives of the commonwealth, congressman lorrie and congressman scott. i want to thank you for all you
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do to represent these service sectors, because they're devoted to you. all these survivors call virginia home. i'm especially honored to share the stage with brittany, jeremy, nathan and margaret catherine. i love those barettes in their hair. look at her, she looks like she's 19 years old. brittany, you're doing triple duty as a veteran, a military spouse and a teacher. kids, thank you for being there for your mom. i can remember all those times, and all of you remember the spouses when your husband or wife were deployed. every morning you wake up, you say a little extra prayer while you're drinking your coffee. you just spend a little more time wondering. you make up 1% of the
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population. you're defending 99% of the rest of us. we owe you. you do your job so gracefully. you hardly ever say anything. but it matters. it matters to your families for that time you're sitting across an empty chair at the kitchen table, the dining room table, birthdays or christmases or holidays when they're gone. there is a famous english poet who says they also serve who only stand and wait. also serve who only stand and wait. i know major bead, having been deployed during the pandemic only made things harder during the pandemic. i thank you so much and your entire families for serving our
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country. don't underestimate how important you are. there is nothing jill and i enjoy more than spending time with our troops here and abroad. whether you're stationed here in the united states or deployed around the world, i've been in iraq and afghanistan, i think, over 25 times. i wish everyone could see what you do when you're there. i wish they could see every day how you saddle up and you jump in that cockpit. you're just doing your job. not to mention all the troops i've visited in europe. we traveled all over. jill travels all over into iraq. i think she's the only first lady that's been to a war zone because she wanted to see it.
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i want you to know always that the issues you and your family are facing, we need to switch it better. there are reasons for that. the bidens are proud to have family in the military and our son beau's service was among the achievements, like i said, that he was most proud of. my heart swelled to see him in uniform. when i went into iraq, i was there five times he was in baghdad. and i remember the first time i saw him, his name was hunter. i said, what in the hell happened? he said, dad, i didn't want anyone to give me special favors
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because the vice president is my dad. they gave him permission to put a different name tag on. he also listened to me talk about the needs people had when he got back home, all the people who served and came back with post-traumatic stress, and he was the acting attorney general having to deal with it. here's the point. you do so much and you ask for so little. you know, our experience is a fraction of what so many of you and your families have gone through. your heart, your honor, your solid steel spine. my message to all of you is quite simple. thank you. thank you. not only thank you for your
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service, but thank you for who you are. it's contagious. thank you for choosing a selfless service to your country. i know we have mostly soldiers in attendance today, but there can be a lot of friendly rivalries on the base. each branch has its own proud cherished traditions and culture. i know how proud langley air force base is of their raptor wing. i would love to go up in one of those. i'm your commander in chief. why the hell can't i command to go up in one? they won't let me do that. it's led by the air force, primarily used by the navy. it's all about as conjoined as it can possibly get. every day more than 25,000 members of the air force and army along with civilian personnel come to work with a shared mission. no matter which branch of our
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armed forces you proudly represent, you're part of the greatest fighting force in the history of the world. that's not hyperbole. the greatest fighting force in the history of the world. you're integral in the most powerful nation in the world. there is no army, navy, air force or marines like you. here at air force base langley-eustis, you provide a mission around the world. you ensure our soldiers and airmen are already trained to deploy around the world. including this year adhering to covid-19 safety protocols before troops ship out in order to stop the spread of the virus. i know many of you deployed yourselves probably more than once. over the past 20 years, our volunteer force and our military
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families made incredible sacrifices in this country. early in my term as vice president when i traveled overseas, i sometimes would meet servicemen and women who were deployed a fourth, fifth, sixth time. i remember going into baghdad, and those of you who had to fly in to do the circular deal so we wouldn't get shot at and we wouldn't get hit. i walked up in the cockpit of the silver bullet they had me in. i asked, how many -- there were five people in the cockpit at the time. i said, how many is this your first tour? nobody raised their hand. >> how many their second tour? >> nobody raised their hand. >> third tour? >> two raised their hand. >> fourth tour? >> two raised their hand. >> fifth tour? one raised their hand. no other war have you gone in,
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served, got back up again and go back again and again. once. once. wiping the blood off the seat of a humvee is enough to get you focused. you saddle up next time and go back, and back again. you're incredible. you're incredible. the country, they owe you and they're appreciative. in my day you didn't come back home after vietnam.
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i want to recognize the significance to what all of you in the united states armed forces have accomplished in the past 20 years. going to afghanistan with a clear purpose, to get the people who attacked us on 9/11 and to prevent al qaeda from using afghanistan as a base from which to attack america in the future. you achieved that purpose. year after year, deployment after deployment, americans took the brunt of the most difficult terrain on the planet. from the fobs to konar valley down south looking at those poppy fields and in between. that's one godforsaken landscape, but you all showed up and did your job. and you had to make sure there wasn't another attack in the
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homeland for the next 20 years. and you never gave up until we got justice for osama bin laden. i got criticized for saying we'll follow the son of a gun to the gates of hell until we get him. that's exactly what you did. that's exactly what you did. you got him. and now as we draw down, we're also going to focus on the urgent work of rebuilding over the arising capabilities that will allow us to take out al qaeda if they return to afghanistan, but focus on the threat that's metastasized. the greatest threat of an attack from al qaeda or isis is not going to be from afghanistan. it's going to be from five other regions in the world that have significantly more presence in both al qaeda and organizational structures, including isis. we're going to update our security stance and turn our forces to the threats that will dominate our future to ensure
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the stability of the american people for decades to come. but we'll never, ever forget the terrible cost that we paid as a nation. many of you likely have lost friends or colleagues in afghanistan and iraq. i know this is personal to you. we as a nation will always remember and pay tribute to those we lost. after i announced my decision to end the war in afghanistan, the first thing i did was visit section 60 at arlington national cemetary. i just walked through those headstones. you should have seen all those stones. our son did not die in iraq, but he came back -- went as an incredibly healthy young man and came back with a severe brain
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tumor. he was just downwind from those burn pits. i don't know if that's the reason, but he came home and it was just a matter of how long he lived. i still carry with me every single solitary day. i had my staff, since the war began, i have my schedule. in the back of my schedule, it says, u.s. daily troop update. u.s. troops died in iraq and afghanistan. 6,927. not over 6,000. total fallen angels across the board, over 7,000. every one of these lives lost is a tragedy, an empty seat at the dinner table. a missing voice on the holidays. every one of them left behind a
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whole community, not just one. a whole community. we can never repay that debt. but i promise you this, to all the gold star families across the country. we will never, ever, ever, ever forget. each year memorial day offers us the chance to reflect on the enormity, the sacrifices that generation after generation americans have made and the responsibility we bear, citizens bear, in return. i've said many times, it used to get me in trouble 25 years ago, 30 years ago in the senate. america has many obligations. we only have one sacred obligation. the obligations to our children, the elderly and so many other things, only one sacred obligation. that's to prepare you when we send you into harm's way with everything you need, care for your families when you're gone,
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and when you come home, care for you and your families and the needs that may be a consequence of the war. we owe it. we owe it to you. we particularly owe it to the memories to affirm the very best of what america stands for. up to uphold honor of this very famous distinction. you know, i sometimes get criticized for saying what i deeply believe having done this for the bulk of my life. we're in a battle between democracy and autocracies. the more complicated the world becomes, the more difficult it is for autocracies to come
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together and reach consensus. i've spent more time with president xi in china than any world leader has for 24 hours of private meetings with him. he spent 17,000 miles traveling between china and here. he firmly believes that in 2035 china will own america because autocracies can make quick decisions. but americans are unique. of all nations in the world, we're the only nation organized based on an idea. every other nation, you can define by their ethnicity or geography or religion, except america. america is born out of an idea.
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we hold these truths to be self-evident. all men and women are created equal endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, including life, liberty, et cetera. none of you get your rights from your government. you get your rights merely because you're a child of god. the government is there to protect those god-given rights. no other government is based on that notion. no one can defeat us except us. it's an idea that general patriotism died and defended. i know that's a conviction that each and every day you all share. that's why you joined up, why you run around danger and duty
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calls. it's my greatest honor -- it should not surprise anybody, it should be the greatest honor in all of life to be able to serve as your commander in chief. no greater honor. so thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you for spending this time with me today. and thank you for your commitment to our country. because without you, as i said, and i'll say it again, you are the spine of america. the spine. i can't tell you how much it matters. i think you underestimate the consequence of who you are and what you do. thank you. may god bless you. and may god protect our troops.
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thanks. >> we have been listening to president biden speaking at joint base langley-eustis in langley, virginia thanking american families and the service members themselves for their selflessness and sacrifice. it's something biden knows well since his son beau was an army captain in the delaware national guard. as we keep our eye there, we're going to talk about more breaking news and that's something parents have been waiting for. the cdc just issued brand new guidance for summer camps. here's what we know so far. in camps where everyone is vaccinated, things can go back to how they were in 2019. full capacity, no distancing, no masks. but since children under the age of 12 are not able to get the vaccine yet, most summer camps are asked to keep masking in some form. the guidance of masking indoors is strongly encouraged for anyone who is not vaccinated, and people who do not need to
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wear masks outdoors unless they are unvaccinated and in crowded outdoor settings or in close contact with other unvaccinated people, which basically describes most kids at camp. that's a lot there, a bit confusing. luckily we have msnbc contributor, dr. blackstock. dr. blackstock, do a better job than i did there on unpacking this guidance. is it safe to send kids under 12 to camp this summer? >> first of all, you did a great job. it is safe as long as multi-level prevention matters are following. this is an update on the guidelines weave we've been waiting for. so, essentially, you sdroent to wear a mask indoors or outdoors.
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but the. they can be or in close contact with other people. obviously what's going on locally around these camps is very many in those areas where cases are high and vaccination rates are low. i personally think masking should continue for now. >> in cases of kids under 12, how risky are those things we generalize, swimming and things like that? >> kids are mostly safe outdoors. the only thing we would not encourage is close contact sports, sports where they have to be vaccinated, we know the
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data is less than 1 poinlt t. it's the safest place for campers and staffers to be this summer. >> thank you for breaking it down for us. we appreciate you. >> thank you. we have new details about a mass shooting in a railyard in california. video shows the gunman moving between two buildings in san jose where he murdered nine coworkers. the nbc bay area affiliate says he faces a different hearing that day from.
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jake ward is with us. jake, what have you heard about this attack? >> we saw him walk across this railyard while he consistently killed nine people. one of the things on his mind might have been this disciplinary hearing. it was related to possible racist remarks he had been making at work. that, of course, is coupled with a very, very dark behavior with swern tough time sdplds we're looking across san jose's culture when we look at the nine faces of the dead. the 36-year-old father of two
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who spent his time trying to save his coworkers. >> they told him to leave the premises that there was a shooter in place. he got shot as he was trying to lock the doors. >> reporter: all morning we've been watching bus drivers and light rail operators leave their shift and go to a memorial set up in front of city hall, paying their respects to the fallen>> nbc's jiang. he has launched another major
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this afternoon we're learning the russians are at it again. it's not a surprise, nevertheless an alarming development as the u.s. government and some of the biggest companies not only work to fight off cyberattacks but also to figure out where those russian cyberspies still have access to some of our most sensitive secrets. the state-backed russians already pulled off one of the world's largest attacks ever. the latest strike includes the u.s. agency for international development or usaid. we have our nbc correspondent ken delanian. explain this for us. >> microsoft is calling this a rebellion, but they say it's the same group that carried out the
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solar winds hack, and sbr is a very sophisticated company. they piggyback on the company that produce the usaid in order to spend approximate -- they sent these e-mails to about 3,000 computers in 154 organizations in ten countries. we don't know how the. this is a thing that your automatic software should block. nevertheless, what it shows, jeff, is the russian and taylor ing r -- tailoring against us. that's what worries me about
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firms like microsoft, it's not just a targeted response to a certain number of organizations, it's a really bad array targeting a whole nation, jeff. >> let me get to your experience with timing issues. you have president xi set to meet with president biden in a week's time. what's happening here? the russians are always. they're constantly trying to break into the. that's the thing that maybe biden and putin have to talk about at this meeting, meaning, what are the rules of the road
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for espionage clearly a firm like microsoft is saying enough is enough. this is out of control and this shouldn't be happening. it's just a tough thing to regulate, jeff. >> and if you get dekleily. spnding their time on corporate boards, including the wunl. >> it was horrifying to see a presidency come to such a dishonorable and disgraceful end. so, once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads. here's the reality that we have to face.
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if the conservative cause depends on one personality or limitations, then we're not going anywhere. voters looking for republican leaders want to see independence in metal. they will not be impressed with the setters rushing to mar-a-lago. >> he didn't mention trump's name, but he didn't have to. everyone knew who he was talking about. "politico" points out this. trump supporters who back his claim that the 2020 vote was rigged are running to become the top election officials in key states. they tried to overturn the 2020 election. now they want to run the next one. joining us now are nbc senior "politico" reporter ron allen and ned at ohio university. ned, we'll start with you, because it is said there are
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candidates in georgia and michigan who want to be head of state. excuse me, michigan, not arkansas. what do you think we're in for? >> you're right, it matters who supervises the -- it makes a difference if the individuas who did that were honest or not. i'm thinking about possible moves in the process. >> what's happening here? are people using trump's big lie
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to enshrine voter suppression laws but also now to roadways for the presidency? >> they have roadways they can now use to. >> ned, let's use the example of jodi heist in georgia. he would face up to the secretary of the united states. how much power does he have?
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>> it varies state to state. secretaries of state tend to have sufficient power directing local election officials. in other states, the role of the county process, you can't generalize it in all 50 states. but it is true everywhere -- there is some symbolism here, too. as that article pointed out, you want people with integrity. >> it depends who has to wait. trump wants to put people if place who will count votes his bay and not necessarily the correct wayment. >> john makes a good point about the symbolism involved here, but speaking specifically about the candidates, based on your
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reporting, do they have a chance of winning? >> it depends on the candidates. i had a big heist in georgia, some has a chance to physically be there. it's the house that decides disputed elections. if you have disputed elections going on, in normal times you would expect the congress might go for the truth. and what we've seen from so is them suspending the party. >> he also warned of trump i am
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massacre. may 31 irs through june 1, 1921, saw one of the worst massacres in american history. white mobs destroyed tulsa's greenwood district known as black wall street. even today mass graves are being discovered. it's an atrocity we as a country and tulsa as a community are still struggling with a century later. black residents there say they continue to grapple with lingering emotional, social and economic effects. joining us now from tulsa my friend tiffany cross. great to see you as always, and you have been there on the ground doing reporting. you've been talking to descendants of the massacre. so tell us what you've been hearing. >> yeah, sorry. you're right, i'm standing here in the heart of the greenwood district where 100 years ago a massacre happened. and let's be clear this was definitely state sponsored violence. i want you to take a listen to
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one of the descendants describe what happened here and the long lasting impact it still has today. >> if you go to the university of tulsa, you go to their library there are klan rosters that still exist from that time period, and it lists the names, the first and the last names of people who were involved in the klan. it literally lists their address, it lists their occupation. and let me tell you when i looked at that occupation list i saw firefighter, i saw police officer, i saw schoolteacher, i saw superintendent of tulsa public schools. so that is how we know the city is responsible for the massacre because folks that were working for the city, for the government, they were the ones that were out there pillaging our community, massacring our
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people. >> so, i'll talk to more descendants tomorrow and i'll also have the opportunity to sit down and talk to the mayor of tulsa about his role and responsibility in righting the past wrongs. and as you see the community is still split here today. there was the commission run by mostly republicans and a mostly white residents of tulsa and then there's the legacy fest, and this is run by the black descendants and survivors of what happened here in tulsa. and the commission i should tell you has raised $30 million. and jeff, how much of that money do you think they've given to the actual descendants and survivors of the tulsa massacre? zero dollars. we'll talk about that 10:00 a.m. airing eastern standard time. >> and you make a good point there are layers to this injustice. you have the three known living survivors between the ages of 100, 107.
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the centennial commission raised $30 million, not giving a cent of it to those three survivors and ms. viola fletcher was here and testified on the hill a couple weeks ago, she testified she struggles to support herself financially. it is as they say a crying shame, and i hope that someone's able to address it. great to see you as always. and this saturday tiffany is anchoring a special two hour edition of her program live from the historic greenwood district in tulsa. don't miss the cross connection, america's reckoning. and join me on tuesday when i'm be anchoring this 2:00 p.m. hour live from tulsa as president biden travels there to mark the 100-year anniversary. that does it for me today. eamon moydean picks up your coverage next. moydean picks up coverage next. and now save when you order in the app. subway®. eat fresh. to make progress, we must keep taking steps forward.
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