tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC May 29, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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we got a lot to get through in the next two hours, despite this being a holiday weekend, and we have coverage across the country with a team of reporters following these events. dubbed the first maskless holiday in america since the pandemic began, a short time ago, the tsa saying those traveling by air is record breaking. that leaves a big question. can airports, roads, along with beach and park destinations handle all of this congestion? we are also monitoring the events under way in tulsa, observing one of the nation's darkest moments 100 years ago, targeting black america and how that event impacts the city and this nation to this very day. then, we go to washington. president biden proposing a $6 trillion budget for next year. we're going to dive into his wish list, focusing on infrastructure, free pre-k, public health and so much more. how is this country going to pay for all that? and the not so surprising reaction from the republicans. but we do want to start with a glimpse of life after lockdown this holiday weekend. a short time ago, the tsa saying americans are smashing records
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at airports, more than 1.9 million passengers passed through tsa checkpoints just yesterday alone. that is easily the biggest one-day number since the start of the pandemic and new jersey, massachusetts, they're all rolling back mask mandates as well. with me now, covering this for us, my friend cal perry at reagan national airport and shaq brewster, who's got the best assignment in the biz. those glasses. come on, shaq, in miami, florida. gloating. and you can just tell cal is angry underneath that mask there at the airport. cal, i'm going to start with you on this one. american airlines announcing it's not yet resuming serving alcohol in economy. what more do we know about this decision, and also, this uptick in passenger confrontations happening on planes right now? >> reporter: yes, so, american airlines is actually following southwest in this policy. southwest said they were going to bring back the drinking in economy class, but they're
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delaying it at least until the end of the summer. now we hear american doing the same thing until at least september 13th as they say the number of incidents is fairly outrageous, 2,500 acts of unruly passengers since the beginning of the year. 1,900 of them having to do with masks. on the left side of your screen is an incident on southwest airlines. that flight attendant there had two teeth knocked out by a passenger. that is assault. that is a federal crime. just to give you an idea, southwest airlines, between may 24th -- excuse me, saw 477 incidences. in a normal year, yasmin, we have between 150 to 200. so this has been a major uptick. we've heard from the department of homeland security saying think will have a zero tolerance policy. they are immediately going to fine people, and again, just a reminder, if you do something like this in the air, it is a federal crime, so you can expect to be met at the airport by the fbi. >> gosh, it's always nervewracking, anxiety inducing, whatever, when you see confrontations like that on the
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airplane but hearing about that stewardess getting teeth knocked out,s that's troubling. all right, shaq, or should i say cool guy on miami beach, talk us through the crowd situation on the beaches there, especially after quarantining for so long. what are some of the concerns that folks are seeing, and are you seeing a lot of people out now this memorial day weekend? >> reporter: oh, yeah. definitely a lot of people out here right now. you mentioned the concerns that people had because the last time we saw a big group of people coming to miami beach, specifically south beach, was during that spring break period and you saw the clashes between vacationers and members of law enforcement because of that curfew. there are fewer restrictions this time around and there are more people and you can just get a sense of what it's looking like here on south beach, a lot of smiles, people just here having a good time. i spoke to the commissioner of miami beach and he said that he is inviting people here. he wants people to come down and support the businesses. he is happy that folks are coming in and he's inviting and welcoming them and they're also
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doing vaccinations, for example, along the beach, trying to take advantage of the crowd here. i want you to listen to my conversations with a few people who came down and i asked them specifically, you know, for some of them, it was their first time traveling during the pandemic or at least since the pandemic started. listen to what they're saying about their level of comfort coming here for memorial day weekend. some people haven't been in crowds like this in a long time. what are you going to be thinking when you see the crowds? >> i'm excited. >> i'm excited too. i'm not super excited to, like, fight for drinks at the bar, but since it's her bachelorette party, i don't think that's going to be a problem. >> yeah. >> but no, i'm super excited to be around people. everybody is just, like, there's an energy now. everybody's so excited to be out. so i'm really looking forward to that. >> reporter: and you see folks in the water right now enjoying their time. i'll tell you on the opposite end of the beach, they're having an air and sea show. that's a show that was actually canceled last year for memorial day weekend. that's something that is bringing in a lot of people, a
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lot of different festivals and events happening here. i mentioned those vaccinations. i'll tell you, at the air and sea show, the state has brought out a pop-up vaccination clinic. i started my day over there and you had people who said they were just walking by and they saw that they could get their vaccine, they were offering all three of the fda-approved vaccines, and you had people going, getting their vaccinations, literally with their feet in the sand as my feet are in the sand right now, i'll tell you, a pretty good weekend, pretty fun weekend here at south beach. >> and once again, cal perry, just stone faced, shaking his head. i mean, you got to love that sound byte, shaq, that you got from that one woman, i'm not excited to fight for drinks at the bar. looks like a fun weekend ahead, to say the least. go get a margarita, shaq. thanks. cal, stay right there, maybe get yourself some m&ms from the airport commissary. thanks, guys. appreciate it. let's go to tulsa, oklahoma. residents are marking the
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anniversary of the darkest chapter of that city's history. this weekend marks a hundred years since greenwood was destroyed in a two-day massacre by a white mob. parades, prayers, marches, they're apg throughout the weekend to honor the unknown number of dead and to shed light on the event that was downplayed or outright covered up by white oklahomans for decades. we're going to be live in tulsa all weekend long. you don't want to miss that. also we're going to be joined by msnbc correspondent and host of "into america" podcast, trymaine lee, who's been talking to descendants of the riot. also the president has unveiled a historically large budget for 2022. now he has to convince congress. kelly o'donnell is covering this for us in wilmington, delaware. thanks for joining us on this. i want to talk through the abcs of all this and first talk about what is actually in this budget proposal and what items are a priority for the president,
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kelly. >> reporter: well, first, yasmin, i wish i could trade places with shaq, because it's like in the 50s and windy and she'll here in wilmington, and he's got that wonderful assignment. but that -- so goes the news gods, putting us in our various places so bear with me because it is windy here. the president's budget is a blueprint for his agenda and priorities for the coming year, and it comes with a huge number, $6 trillion. that does include some of the plans we've already seen unveiled by the white house, dealing with the big issues of the day, the jobs plan from the president, the infrastructure plan, dealing with things like education and the home economy where the president is calling for spending that would help with child care and elder care and so forth. the blueprint of a budget is a seminal event for every presidency, wanting to put their mark, the president's mark on spending, but of course, congress gets to decide how money is spent.
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so, it is a partnership there and republicans are already saying that the president's plan is just too big, does too much, and according to some republicans, runs the risk of stymieing any chances for bipartisanship on something like infrastructure. now, democrats would say infrastructure is something where everyone agrees. why can't they get there? so they're still working on that as you know. the president has been speaking to west virginia republican shelley moore capito who is in charge of the republican committee that deals with jurisdiction over issues like infrastructure, so she's the top republican there, and has put together a team that's been negotiating with the white house, trying to get to a number where both sides could agree. they aren't there yet. that will be something to watch this week. the president says he will be meeting with her, talking with her again, but they say they're running out of time. memorial day weekend was supposed to be a key point to
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know which direction the white house would want to take, a go it alone with democrats only strategy or to try for bipartisanship. so, that's where we are. it is a big number, and it's one with a lot of question marks associated with it. yasmin? >> so, just quickly here, kelly, how are some top republicans reacting to this huge number? >> reporter: well, they are saying it's a nonstarter, and that it risks putting more deficit. now, you've got to say, well, republicans certainly have spent money when president trump was in charge, and they were in charge of the senate, and so it's a predictable back and forth. it is an ambitious number, the white house knows that, but they've been doing that in the months of the biden administration, coming out with a big plan that they think covers the concerns and the issues they want, knowing it will likely be dialed back, even with some democrats who are more conservative on the spectrum of the political sort of landscape
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as we see it today. so, there will be pushback. this is one of those points where, really for president biden, he would like to see bipartisanship on infrastructure in order to be able to say that some governing really happened and that something where both parties and, you know, citizens around the country could benefit. but will they get to the right number? and that's a big question that could be determined this week. the biden white house has come down in some of its projections for what it would cost. republicans have come up. can they keep doing that and get to a number closer to around $1 trillion? is that doable? that's a big question right now. >> all right, kelly o'donnell for us, following the president in wilmington, thank you, kelly. by the way, kelly is going to return in our 4:00 p.m. hour along with our powerhouse political panel to take a deeper dive into biden's budget and beyond that as well, so you don't want to miss that conversation, really how this budget could affect you. we are also following breaking news out of the state of texas where a controversial election integrity bill jam packed with sweeping changes to the state's voting procedures
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has now been filed. state senate and house lawmakers are set to participate in limited debate this afternoon followed by a straight-up or down vote. gary is in austin. good to see you this afternoon. thanks for joining us on this. you got your hands on a draft version of the sb-7 bill. talk us through what's in it. >> reporter: i will absolutely do that. i just want to go to one thing, joe biden's statement just came out, president joe biden just released a new statement about this texas voting bill. he says, in part, it's an assault on democracy that we have seen far too often this year and often disproportionately targeting black and brown americans, so that was president joe biden just within the last hour. but you're right, the -- they're back in session here at the state capitol. they have a busy afternoon ahead of them. just this morning, they received a 67-page voter integrity bill from this committee that's been putting it together. it's not public yet. it's not on the state website yet.
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but we did get our hands on a copy of it and i want to go through some of the highlights of what is in this bill for you here. first, it bans a mobile voting booth within the state of texas. it also bans drive-thru voting for most voters and it strengthens voter i.d. when it comes to vote by mail. it also bans 24-hour voting. that's something that came in real handy during the pandemic, especially for those black and brown voters, and it allows early voting on the weekends in an important weekend just leading up to the election but importantly on sundays, it doesn't start until 1:00 p.m. so voter advocates said to me that's really messing up their plans for souls to the polls because that was the idea of go to church and then immediately go right to the voting booth. and you know, finally, there's a provision in this that i do want to read word for word because it raises questions. if the number of votes illegally cast in the election is equal or greater to the number of votes necessary to change the outcome of the election, the court may declare the election void without attempting to determine how individual voters voted. so, what does that mean? it could be -- there's a lot of
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questions surrounding that, including whether or not that's actually legal to begin with and whether or not that's a contradiction of federal law. also, when would another vote be scheduled, how would that election be scheduled and who is in charge of deciding whether or not a vote is illegal? i don't think we should overlook the timing of all of this. this is saturday of memorial day weekend. their legislative session ends on monday, so they are really packing this all through here. in terms of a timeline, how this is going to work, they are right now debating a little bit in the senate and the house. the senate is expected to vote today on this bill. tomorrow, the house is expected to vote. they are both expected to pass this bill, and governor greg abbott has already said he's going to sign it .. >> there's another really controversial bill coming out of texas that happened last week, fill us in on the constitutional carry bill that is literally sitting on the governor's desk as we speak. especially after we had this tragic week of shootings. >> reporter: yeah, you've heard of open carry, you've heard of concealed carry.
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this is what advocates are calling constitutional carry, where if you're over the age of 21 and not otherwise not allowed to have a firearm, you will be able to have a handgun without a license, without a permit, without really any training. you're able to get the gun and be able to carry it around austin or any other city in texas that you please. now, i should note, most texans don't agree with this. according to a texas tribune poll, about 60% of texans say they'd rather have people take a license or permit. it takes months and it's an in-depth process. this is something governor greg abbott has said he'll sign. it is sitting on his desk right now. yasmin? >> gary grumbach, thank you. we're following breaking news out of british columbia where the remains of more than 200 children were found. the indian residential school that operated from the 19th century until 1969 and was one
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of many state-funded christian schools that indigenous children were required to attend to assimilate to canadian society. they were forced to convert to christianity and not allowed to speak their native language as many were beaten and abused and up to 6,000 are said to have died. the 250 remains found on the site were confirmed with the help of ground-penetrating radar, children as young as 3 years old were buried with more bodies expected to be discovered. local indigenous leaders have called the discovery an unthinkable loss. hackers behind one of the worst data breaches to ever hit the u.s. government are at it again. according to microsoft, russian based hacking group nobelium is targeting government agencies, most of which are in the united states as well as think tanks, consultants and nongovernment the organizations. they've reportedly breached around 3,000 email accounts just this last week. here with me now is nbc's kevin collier, who's been following
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this for us. thanks for joining us on this. really appreciate it. talk to me about, first, the severity of this hack and how concerning it is that this has happened yet again on such a large scale. >> reporter: right, thanks, yasmin. we don't have total visibility into the scope, but microsoft estimated more than 150 organizations were targeted. the u.s. cyber defense agency estimated 350 and that includes federal agencies. like any big spear fishing campaign, most of the emails were not successful but the hackers know that going in. if a phony email has a 0.1% chance that it's going to bypass spam filters and somehow convince somebody to click it and download the contents, you send out enough emails that you'll make those odds worthwhile. we do know there were at least some compromises from this. so there's really, i think, two ways of looking at this. on one hand, you can say, hey, this is the same russian intelligence agency that was responsible for solarwinds which was so big and here we go and they're already after us again.
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or on the other, you could see this as something like de-escalation in the sense that this was the sort of thing that the svr, the russian agency that we believe is behind it, used to do kind of a lot before solarwinds. we saw it all the time from them. it's what cyber defenders would expect. >> let's get into the politics of this as well, kevin. biden has side that russia's cyber aggression is going to be part of the conversation planned with putin next month when they meet in geneva. could this latest hack lead to even more sanctions, more consequences subsequently for russia? >> i think this is a very fine needle for biden to thread. for years, reaching back to the obama administration, before, there's always been a sort of tacit acceptance that it's okay for intelligence agencies to go just so far, hacking specific targets for espionage. the u.s. does it, china, russia, every country with decent cyber capabilities does it. solarwinds crossed a line for a
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lot of people in washington. it hit a vital part of the software supply chain, gave hackers too much power to pull the trigger and cause incredible destruction and russia has grown so aggressive in recent years, that made a lot of people nervous. so, when biden meets with putin, he's going to have this very straightforward directive, to make his displeasure with solarwinds clear. but what this most recent campaign we're talking about, it's sort of a reversion to the cyber spy craft we're used to from russia, is biden going to formally condone it? is he going to say, okay, that's all part of the game? is he going to say, you know, this is -- you know, historically only condemned cyber activities that we don't engage in, so is biden going to try to change the rules? he's got all these things to weigh and consider. >> all right, kevin collier for us, i know you're going to be following that for us. thank you so much. appreciate it. let's talk to colonial pipeline, saying its network is back up and running now after experiencing some temporary network issues yesterday.
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colonial saying the issues are not related to malware, but we still don't know the reason behind these disruptions. of course just a couple of weeks ago, a ransomware attack crippled the company's computer system and caused fuel delivery delays and panic buying in the southeast as many of you remember. this is the second time colonial has had these issues since this cyberattack. still ahead, everybody, what the convening of a grand jury really means in the criminal probe into the trump organization, the three important functions that it will have. after the break, former u.s. attorney chuck rosenberg breaks it all down for us. we'll be right back. breaks it all down for us we'll be right back.
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welcome back, everybody. the criminal investigation into former president donald trump has once again escalated to new heights. "the washington post" reporting this week that a new special grand jury has now convened to hear evidence and weigh potential charges in the probe into trump's organization, which has denied any wrongdoing. it is the latest development since the manhattan d.a. and new
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york attorney general joined forces on the criminal investigation. investigators have so far heard from an extensive number of witnesses from trump's inner circle, including his former lawyer, michael cohen, jennifer weisselberg, former daughter-in-law of trump organization cfo allen weisselberg, and while trump and his two sons, eric and don junior, remain working executives at the organization. here to dive deeper is chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and former senior fbi official. great to see you this afternoon. thanks for joining us on this. you're the perfect person to talk to when it comes to this stuff because i think it's important to walk our audience through sort of why the convening of the grand jury and what purpose at this point does it serve and what does it say about where we are in the investigation? >> sure, yasmin. look, i think the how and why of a grand jury is really important, because i'm a bit of a nerd, i also think it's really interesting. number one, and there are really three basic functions of a grand jury, if i oversimplify a bit. number one, it's to get records.
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so, let's make believe you're an fbi special agent, you're investigating me. i bank at abc bank and you want my banking records. you would ask a prosecutor, state or federal, depending on where you're working, but you're an fbi agent so we'll say federal, to ask for grand jury subpoenas, issued in the name of a grand jury, which you would serve on the bank and in return, they would give you my bank records. so it's a really good assumption that that's been going on in the trump organization case for a long time now. that's not new. as prosecutors collect, amass records, they're doing that often through the powers of a grand jury. so, i expect that's been going on for some time. there's a second really important thing that grand juries do. in my first example, you were an fbi agent. let's say you are a witness. imagine that you are a really important witness to a bank robbery and it's an important
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fact that you saw a blue four-door ford as the getaway card. and you tell that to the fbi when they ask you and you repeat it over and over, but we're not sure you're going to be a truthful witness at trial. so, what we do is we subpoena you to the grand jury, we lock in your testimony, we ask you the important question in the grand jury. yasmin, did you see the car and what kind of car was it? you say, i sure did, it was a blue four-door ford. if you change your testimony at trial, if you get nervous or you're forgetful or even worse someone gets to you and gets you to change your story, what you said in the grand jury is substantive evidence of what actually happened of the truth, and so another reason prosecutors may be using a grand jury is to lock down stories to get testimony under oath in the grand jury so if someone forgets or gets nervous or changes their story at trial, they actually have the truthful testimony in front of the grand jury that
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they can subsequently use. and then finally as you alluded to in your opening, yasmin, a third reason we use grand juries is simply to indict under the federal constitution, under the new york state constitution, before you're charged with a felony, a grand jury gets to decide whether or not those charges are appropriate, whether there's probable cause to bring them. so, grand juries are incredibly important for those three reasons, getting documents, locking down testimony, and approving charges, and i imagine that it's been going on for some time now in new york state. >> so, one thing i want to drill down on, when you're talking about possibly being a witness and providing testimony in a grand jury, would that be something also that's applied to someone possibly that's not as much of a credible witness as they would expect them to be? and i'm only bringing this up because i'm going to be speaking to jennifer weisselberg in the 4:00 p.m. hour, and i guess one of the questions i have for you about her is considering the fact that she is now an
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ex-daughter-in-law, kind of this concern of her credibility. would she be someone that they would want to have testify in front of a grand jury? >> yeah, that's a very, very sophisticated question, yasmin. it's a great question. as a former prosecutor, here's how i think about it. if i completely trusted you or in this case her to tell the truth, regardless of venue or setting or circumstance, if i believe she would tell the truth in the grand jury, in a trial and anywhere else she was asked to tell the truth, i probably wouldn't put her in the grand jury. there's no reason to. i don't need to lock down her testimony. but if prosecutors make a different determination, that she might change her story, she might be nervous, she might be forgetful, or someone might get to her and urge her or even bribe her to change her story, and i'm not really talking about jennifer weisselberg right now, i don't know her. i'm talking about the hypothetical witness. then you might lock her down in the grand jury. so, it's a judgment call. it depends. but i certainly did not put
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every witness in the grand jury. i put witnesses in the grand jury when i was concerned that they would either forget or change their story. >> i want to get your -- you to weigh in on the appointment of mark. i'll read for you from the a.p. in recent months, vance hired former mafia prosecute mark pamerantz and has been interviewing witnesses. is this unusual, chuck, to bring someone in, especially someone like mark pomerantz from the outside? >> it's a little bit unusual. it's not unheard of, yasmin. but it's a little bit unusual. and you know, he's more than just a mob or mafia prosecutor. mark is very well respected among those of us who, you know, served with him in the justice department. he has a wonderful reputation. he's good and he's smart and he's diligent and thorough and thoughtful. and so, if they feel like they need a little bit of extra help,
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mark's not a bad guy to turn to. but to specifically answer your question, it is not unheard of. it is unusual. >> and then i also want you to weigh in on allen weisselberg. this is a different witness than the names that we have heard from over and over again when it comes to donald trump, right? we've heard michael cohen. we've heard roger stone. we've heard paul manafort. over the last five-plus years. allen weisselberg is someone who is kind of stayed in the background when it comes to trump organization in general. how does that change the dynamics for him being a witness? >> well, yeah. sorry to step on your question there, yasmin. >> no, go ahead. >> it's a different witness -- it's a different witness from a media perspective. the folks you named, like manafort and stone and cohen are all sort of high-profile semipublic figures and you hear
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them a lot and you see them a lot. weisselberg is different. he's an insider. he's the quintessential insider. but from a prosecutor's perspective, from a prosecutor standpoint, he's a very typical witness. he's the numbers guy. he's the cfo. he's been with the trump organization for a very long time. the trump organization, by the way, is quite small. they don't have a lot of personnel. and so, if you want to figure out what's going on inside the trump organization, this is exactly the kind of person you would want to talk to, and so for an investigator or a prosecutor, weisselberg is a very typical witness. from a media standpoint, and i completely agree with your characterization, he seems like a very different witness. but he could be very important to unraveling the financial doings of the trump organization. >> chuck rosenberg, my friend, thank you as always. good to see you. by the way, coming up at 4:00 p.m., everybody, jennifer weisselberg, the ex-daughter-in-law of trump's
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long-time money man, what she claims to know about shady dealings inside the trump organization and the retaliation that she says she is now facing for speaking out. as we go to break as well, a solemn tradition this memorial day, known as flags in, soldiers of the old guard placed american flags at each of the more than 280,000 head stones in arlington national cemetery. flags were also placed at the tomb of the unknown soldier and at the four memorials on chaplain's hill, honoring those who gave the ultimate sacrifice in service of this country. we'll be right back. ifice in sercevi of this country we'll be right back. nicorette knows, quitting smoking is freaking hard. you get advice like: try hypnosis... or... quit cold turkey. kidding me?! instead, start small. with nicorette. which can lead to something big.
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welcome back, everybody. when it comes to investigating the january 6th capitol riot, democrats on capitol hill are warning they may have to go at it alone after republican senators blocked legislation to create an independent commission yesterday. >> we simply can't let this lie. the risk is still out there.
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and i think without this work, we won't know exactly what took place. what were the failures that allowed this to happen? how do we hold people accountable, and most importantly, how do we prevent it from happening again? so, there's just too much at stake for us not to try to go it alone. >> amanda golden is on capitol hill for us. amanda, good to see you. talk me through the response so far to senate republicans opposing this commission, and what could be the next steps for democrats if they, in fact, want to go it alone? >> reporter: hello, yasmin, great to see you. congressional democrats are keeping this topic front and center. the issue around this commission and what they are intending to investigate around the attack on january 6th here at the capitol, that's not going away, but what form it takes is still remaining to be a question. whether or not this independent bipartisan commission could ever have another second life seems very unlikely, even though senate majority leader chuck schumer said that he did intend to bring this commission back to the senate floor for yet another
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vote, they still need those ten republican senators, which they don't have in order to break that senate filibuster, so we saw yesterday, just six republican senators breaking party lines, joining democrats in support of that bill in order to move it forward in another life, they would need at least ten to do that. so now it falls to the house democrats, and whether or not they could push forward and as you said, go it alone, if they could do this in a partisan way and bring about a select committee where they could then have the power to investigate the events leading up to and beyond january 6th as well as former president trump's influence, and we had a very strong statement come from house speaker nancy pelosi just after that vote failed yesterday where she criticized the political calculation by senate republicans. i'm going to read you part of that statement. she said, quote, mitch mcconnell asked senate republicans to do him a personal favor and vote against the january 6th commission. in doing so, mitch mcconnell asked them to be complicit in his undermining of the truth of january 6th. so, as we wait to see if house
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democrats will move forward with this potential select committee, that partisan way to go about this investigation, we're starting to get reaction from some congressional democrats, and i want you to take a listen to some of what congressman steve cohen had to say earlier today on msnbc around the potential for this select committee. >> should be a select committee that looks into all this material. the fbi doesn't let their material be released. this administration -- the fbi, we couldn't count on getting informs to the public. the public deserves to see this and for the senate not to allow the public to see it, they've done -- >> reporter: and yasmin, we knew that congressional leadership wanted this commission to be bipartisan, they wanted to have everyone on board in order to feel fair and that both sides had input but now if house democrats do move forward with a select committee, it will be partisan in nature. they will be able to bring in testimony via subpoena. they can also schedule hearings as they see fit. so, in the coming weeks, we expect there to be developments with this, but keep in mind, the house is out.
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congress is gone. there won't be imminent next steps around the future of this commission or that select committee any time soon. >> amanda golden for us on capitol hill. thank you, amanda. i just want to let everybody know that what you're seeing on the bottom corner of your screen, those are pictures coming out of tulsa, oklahoma, marking the tulsa massacre. we're going to be covering that and of course being joined by trymaine lee later on in the 4:00 p.m. hour. so the white house is saying they are drawing up sanctions to impose on belarus after the government there forced the landing of a passenger jet to arrest a journalist on board. press secretary jen psaki says the u.s. will also suspend an agreement from 2019 that permitted air carriers from both countries to use each other's air space. the eu and other allies are also set to join in, placing targeted sanctions on key government officials inside belarus. and it's soon going to cost
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you more to send mail the old-fashioned way. the post office is raising the price of stamps in late august. it is part of louis dejoy's decade-long restructuring plan, which includes longer delivery windows, shorter post office hours and fewer staff as well. coming up, everybody, examining the origin as we look optimistically towards the post-pandemic world. new questions about the origin of covid-19 and the political implications. plus, we are watching tulsa where residents are marking the 100th anniversary of a two-day race massacre. sacre.
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welcome back, everybody. almost a year and a half into this deadly pandemic, the origins of the coronavirus are still unknown and mired in controversy. this week, the subject became even more political. president biden announcing an intensifying 90-day review into the origins of covid-19 after trying to refuse to participate in an investigation. china fired back, saying the u.s. was ignoring facts and went so far as to suggest covid began here in the united states. we want to bring in dr. william schaffner. really appreciate it. i want to ask about finding the origins of covid and why it is so important. >> well, yasmin, it's important for a couple of reasons.
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one is, we'd just like to know scientifically, did this virus originate in nature, or did it come from a laboratory? this has everything to do with, of course, trying to prevent recurrences like this in the future and becoming better prepared to abort or even prevent completely new outbreaks that could evolve into pandemics. so it's important for those reasons. >> could it help with finding better and more effective treatments for covid in finding the origin? >> i don't think so, yasmin. we have all the information we have now that will help us develop better treatments and if necessary better vaccines. we're monitoring for the variants at the present time. you know, one of the things i didn't say as a reason is, from a public health perspective,
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there's no political reasons. that may be in the minds of some people, but from the public health science point of view, it would be important to see this. you know it's happened before. coronaviruses have twice jumped species and caused epidemics in humans. first was sars back in 2002, and then mers back in 2012 and other viruses have jumped species, hiv, influenza, ebola, chikungunya, west nile, so this is not unusual. but if there were a laboratory accident that occurred, for example, that released this virus, that would be important to know because we would want to supervise all the laboratories in the world that deal with these highly infectious agents even more rigorously. >> so, what do you make of this
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report from the "wall street journal"? intelligence on six staff at wuhan lab fuels debate on covid-19 origin, saying three researchers from china's wuhan institute of virology became sick enough in november of 2019 that they sought hospital care, according to a previously undisclosed u.s. intelligence report. >> now, that's intriguing, isn't it? and actually, i think that that finding has stimulated a lot of the recent discussion this week. but it's not conclusive, you know? people get sick each and every year with or without covid. there was an outbreak of influenza in china round and about that same time. maybe they had flu. you can't conclude anything from that, but it is intriguing, and it's certainly stimulated further discussion and a desire to try, if we can at this late stage, to get to the bottom of the origin of this virus.
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>> dr. william schaffner, thank you as always. good to see you on this saturday afternoon. coming up, everybody, shoring up a ceasefire with the truce between israel and hamas holding for a week, what could be the next flash point in the conflict? we'll be right back. t flash poie conflict we'll be right back. ♪ where everybody knows your name ♪ ♪♪ ♪ and they're always glad you came ♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you.
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news in san antonio, texas. there are multiple people trapped on a roller coaster at six flags fiesta texas, according to the san antonio fire department. multiple fire and rescue crews are on the scene now to assist with rescuing people from the ride to get them down. no injuries have so far been reported at this time. we're going to keep you updated with the very latest. i can't quite tell where exactly these folks are stuck right now, but it's got to be pretty terrifying to be suspended on a roller coaster, so we're going to keep you posted on that as it does develop. so, let's go over to the middle east today. tensions are still running high, but the fragile ceasefire between hamas and israel is holding. palestinian mourners gathered in the gaza strip earlier today to search the rubble for missing family members. kelly has more from israel. >> reporter: yasmin, the ceasefire is holding now for more than a week after that whirlwind tour by secretary of state tony blinken through this region earlier this week.
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he said that progress was made. he reaffirmed the u.s.'s steadfast support for israel and israel's right to defend itself and also promised some 112 million tra aid dollars going to the palestinian in the west bank and gaza and also said that the u.s. would be re-establishing diplomatic ties with the palestinians after several years of no talks under the trump administration, reopening the consulate in jerusalem. it was quiet on friday for the first time in weeks at the al aqsa mosque after friday prayers. crowds were smaller there as well. but the bigger issues, of course, still remain, and there's another potential flash point in east jerusalem, a neighborhood that is 90% palestinian but about 700 palestinians there are facing eviction. we spoke to a man whose family has lived there for more than 70 years.
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>> we have enough lands, empty land. they go build over there in tel aviv on the way to tel aviv or anywhere. you have a lot of empty lands. why they don't go live over there? why do they have to come over here? these people, the settlers, they hate the palestinian people. they don't want them to live over here. when these people, they come. >> reporter: in that other neighborhood in east jerusalem, sheikh jarreh where about 8 families are threatened with eviction, there have been continuing protests and also some clashes with police throughout this past week. we're expecting possibly a ruling on what will happen with those families on june 8th, so just nine days away. the secretary of state said while he was here, warned both sides to avoid anything that might threaten the ceasefire and included in that list was evictions in east jerusalem. so we'll have to see what happens. yasmin? >> all right, kelly reporting, thank you. coming up in our next hour,
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middle class not since the likes of lbj's great society of the 1940s, president biden wants to spend $6 trillion on next year's budget, pumping cash into programs aimed at boosting public health and help for the poor. so, how's that going to be paid for, and what is the point when republicans called the proposal dead on arrival? plus this. >> we just can't pretend that nothing bad happened or that people just got too excitable. >> republican senator lisa murkowski on voting for a commission into the january 6th insurrection attempt, 54 of her conservative colleagues think otherwise when they see this. we're going to look at how this one vote could be the wedge that drives the two parties even further apartment. and. >> it was definitely tax fraud. there's definitely tax evasion. and you know, i think that there's just a lot of -- for the first time, they seem really nervous. >> a key witness into the
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