tv Velshi MSNBC May 30, 2021 5:00am-6:00am PDT
5:00 am
20 are wounded and two dead after around midnight a venue hosting an event the suspects were armed with assault rifles and handguns and escaped the scene and remain at large. in addition to saturday's latest shooting, this comes days after last week's mass shooting in san jose, california. the white house's flag is still at half mass in honor of those victims. let's get to sam brock who is in miami. sam, what more do we know? >> reporter: coast-to-coast, tragedy upon tragedy this morning, ali. good morning. unfortunate to be with you under these circumstances. let me describe to you how the director of miami-dade police said these are cold-blooded murdered that shot into a crowd and we'll seek justice. my deepest condolences to the families of the victims. we hear helicopters over me,
5:01 am
probably local news. we're in a shopping development in northwest county miami-dade. you'll see white cars in front of this banquet hall where there was some sort of event according to miami-dade police and between 12:00 a.m. and 1:00 a.m., police say a car pulled up to the development, the three suspects got out of the car with assault rifles and handguns and started firing indiscriminately. where are we this morning? 20 people were shot perhaps more, two were killed. one person right now is in critical condition, ali. we know eight people were transported by local fire straight to the hospital for treatment, another 12 were self-transported to at least 20 victims hospitalized in some manner this morning and two people dead and three people unaccounted for that brutally shot and killed multiple victims. miami-dade police don't have a huge froot -- footprint.
5:02 am
we saw investigators huddled around one of those white cars combing through it. we're not seeing family members or loved ones connecting pieces or relay information to police on scene. we're not seeing much from investigators other than a light presence. this is something they're taking with extreme caution and efforts to pick up where the folks that did this might be. in terms of the neighborhood, there is a country club down the street. it residential. so not the most obvious location for an event like this. it obviously memorial day holiday. we've seen violence in miami during this holiday and police forces are ramped up and extra measures and you had to have your license plate read in the past. this is not a likely location
5:03 am
and here we are again a mass shooting with 20 people shot and two killed and one other in critical condition. ali? >> we're expecting more news as the morning goes on, sam, we'll stay close to you. let us know, signal us as soon as you got something. sam brock in miami at a shooting there unfortunately. 20 victims, we have at least two people dead and several others in the hospital now. we'll stay on top of this story. >>. moving to another big political story, the senate gop blocking a january 6th commission to investigate the attack on the quite capitol, the texas state gop unveiled its latest attack on american democracy in the form of a massive package of voting restrictions. after an all night debate, the texas republican control legislature is going to past sb 7 only officially unveiled yesterday after being negotiated behind closed doors by
5:04 am
republican leaders. they argue that the voting restrictions are needed to combat mass voter fraud, which you will remember doesn't exist and to ensure the integrity of the election, which you remember is only being questioned by conspiracy theorists and those upset they lost last year. greg abbott has repeatedly vowed to sign it into law before knowing what was in the legislation because nobody knew until overnight. he even threatened lawmakers with a special session if they didn't pass the bill this weekend. that is how important it is to republicans to make it harder for americans to vote after they lost the last election. once passed, sb 7 will among other things ban mobile voting, ban drive-through voting, ban extended voting by in person voting taking place for nine
5:05 am
hours not after 6:00 p.m. and not before 9:00 a.m. and on the sunday of the final weekend of early voting, voting hours cannot start before 1:00 p.m., perfect, just in time for nfl football and a direct attack on the souls to the polls that are popular in the black church community but there is more. another deep breath. sb 7 will expand the rights of partisan poll watchers while making it a felony punishable by two years in jail to send out unsolicited mail ballot applications, not ballots, applications and require people that provide transportation for multiple voters to fill out specific and detailed forms. oh, and there is a provision that makes it far easier to dismiss the will of the people and literally overturn the results of the election and this sounds more complicated. if the number of votes deemed to have been cast illegally is
5:06 am
greater than or equal to the number of votes necessary to change the elections outcome, the court can declare the election void without anyone needing to provide evidence of fraud. it not clear who decides the votes are cast, gop lawmakers, perhaps the cyber ninjas that have been trying to overturn the election results in arizona? president biden slammed sb 7 that reads texas legislatures put forth a bill to advance a state law that attacks the sacred right to vote. part of app assault on democracy we've seen far too often targeting black and brown americans. it's wrong and unamerican and in the 21st century, we should make it easier, not harder for every eligible voter to vote end quote. joining me now is democratic state representative jessica gonzales of texas and represents
5:07 am
parts of dallas county and vice chair of the committee on elections. good to see you. let's just talk about what happens now. there is actually material changes to the ability of people to vote in texas. what is the next step? >> well, we just found out after 12 hours of debate on the senate, in the senate, the cop gres report was adopted on a party line vote and eligible for us to vote for it in the house at 4:05 according to our calendar. that was just this morning. there is a debate that occurred last night. >> and texas currently voted, the state that's it's hardest to vote according to a particular index and we made it harder. how do you overcome this?
5:08 am
in georgia, it was overcome by a year's long conversation you have a right to vote so it's a mobilization effort that seems to be underway now in texas, particularly amongst democrats. >> yeah, i mean, well, certainly, unfortunately democrats here were the minority so this bill is bound to pass the house and be signed into law because it is one of the governor's emergency items. i think at this point, you know, when this bill does get signed into law, our only resort is to litigate this. it litigated because this law is unnecessary. texas clearly has a history of discriminating against brown and black people when it comes to voting and, you know, that's certainly, you know, requires for us to look into it further and that's really our only option, you know, aside from texas is no longer under section 5 because it no longer protection for us and so that's really our only option at this
5:09 am
point other than really just continuing to debate on the house floor but, you know, we unfortunately are not in a majority so this bill is set to pass and it is an emergency item for the governor so it will be signed into law. >> there was several days of negotiations. were there any measures that they were able to at least pull back on? >> you know, there were modest changes that were made, you know, the way the process really happened was quiet unsettling. you know, there was an additional 12 pages that came back after the conference committee met so there were portions that were not in either the house or senate version of the bill and so a lot of that was, you know, we were told that there is going to be an additional version. again, i mean, the process here,
5:10 am
a lot of it has been behind closed doors and democrats haven't really been kept in the loop as far as the changes and, you know, again, there have been modest changes. you know, and what we requested but still, this bill is built on a foundation of lies and it is unnecessary. >> i was speaking to bet to o'rourke and judge lina hidalgo and they were talking about passing the voting rights advancement act. would any provisions if they passed in the united states senate undo any of the damage that would be done by this bill? >> yes, absolutely. we've seen these bills come through the texas house, restricted voter i.d. measures that have been defeated in the past and again, texas has a history of discrimination of
5:11 am
trying to suppress the black and brown votes and absolutely, you know, we have asked time and time again as a member of the elections committee, we've asked that the a.g. give us an example of the problem we're trying to fix and we can't get an answer and so, you next really they're trying to address the problem that doesn't exist and as a result, there is going to be many people including disabled folks that are not going -- it's going to make it more difficult for them to vote. >> yeah, that sounds like a problem across the country, solving a voter fraud problem that doesn't seem to exist. representative, good to see you in morning. thanks for getting up for us. jessica gonzalez of texas. joining me from tulsa, oklahoma is roland martin and roland is from texas, let start
5:12 am
there. there are all sorts of things that happened already in texas, which discouraged voting in certain areas and among certain demographics and looks like that's about to get worse. >> absolutely. the republican party in texas and across this country is a complete trash party. i'm not going to mince any words because what you're seeing is you're seeing a naked abuse of power. it is gros lygrossly undemocrat. they did not care about black and brown voters. they're targeting white voters, young white voters that are on college campuses, as well and there has to be an absolute response to this that is massive. you heard the representative saying all we can do is file a lawsuit. not the case. rich democratic donors need to fund massive efforts to register the 2 million unregistered latinos in texas. they can do in texas what stacey abrams did in arizona who passed
5:13 am
raphael warnock in georgia in terms of how they were able to bring the folks to the polls. they can do the exact same thing but democrats play around saying let's focus on the next election cycle. no, you got to go into those communities and register those people to flip that particular state. theopportunity is there. this bill targets the suburbs in texas. republicans have been losing in harris county, dallas county, bexar county and the suburbs. the drop boxes, drive through voting, that is specifically targeting harris county. in the last election, democrats were five seats away from taking control of the texas house. they didn't. and so this is one of those moments where you have to understand what is going on. the blame is the feet of chief justice john roberts is laying for the voting rights act so
5:14 am
people need to understand what is going on here and last point, ali, lame senators christian cinema and joe mansion need to wake the hell up and realize what is going on because their refusal to end the filler buste. show it to me in texas, georgia, mississippi, south carolina. republicans are running game all across the country and these two are sitting there behind d.c. saying no, let's keep bipartisanship. they will screw the nation because of their ridiculous actions. >> so there seems to be three approaches here. the one that joe biden is talking about, the two bills that are before the senate that can be passed to expand voting rights and over some of these things being done. stacey abrams is under taken in georgia and texas but could be bigger, the actual voter
5:15 am
registration effort and lawsuits and the idea maybe democrats need to focus almost entirely on fighting these frivolous lawsuits, these actions showing up across the country like the ones in arizona that are now spreading to georgia and philadelphia and then pennsylvania and michigan but democrats do have to understand perhaps in your opinion that policy wins are not going to be the answer here. >> no, it's a multi prong approach. look, the republicans -- donald trump because mitch mcconnell controls many of these appeals courts and control the supreme court 6-3 and 5-4 vote withholders invalidate the section four. republicans do not want to reauthorize the voting rights act. the only way this gets done, two democrats, 48 democrats who want to move right now but two are stuck on stupid by saying oh,
5:16 am
no, we don't want to get rid of the filibuster because it by -- bipartisanship. fine joe mansion. show me the step votes joe mansion. they are the block. you must have a legal strategy, policy strategy, boots on the ground which means garrett peters in michigan, i went and did my show when he was about to lose, he needs to make sure money is being put on the ground for the election next year which means democrats need to take the senate in pennsylvania and north carolina, defeat marco rubio in florida. you pick up those four seats and invalidate cinema and joe mansion. democrats better get off their lazy butt in d.c. and realize thisis game on. republicans control 60 plus legislative bodies out of 99. ali, that's two-thirds. they control 31 republican
5:17 am
governorships. that means they can run the table. so why democrats are playing nice, they're focused on tower. so evil is in control. they are moving the agenda of donald trump and saw what happened and angry what happened in florida and arizona, arizona latinos, georgia black voters. let me be clear to white voters, they're targeting you as well especially young voters and so there has to be a complete effort here and folks got to stop playing games, joe biden needs to be more aggressive with talk and action because if they are able to take control of the house next year, do you realize in florida alone they could invalidate four to five democratic districts. i never identified as a democrat or republican. i voted democrat or republican
5:18 am
but what these folks did with the january 6th commission, any republican with fans of donald trump needs to be defeated on the federal, state, county, city level, school board level because these folks want to rupp america because they're afraid of the browning of america. this is game on and folks better stop playing. you can sit here and walk around like we're in a field of daisies but no, this is real because they want to run all the policy and control the course, as well. >> rolond, you're in tulsa where we spend years talking about black enpowerment and entrepreneurship. that was the site of there in 1991 was taken out literally. this piece of history you knew and lots of people did know but many people didn't know the history of the massacre in
5:19 am
tulsa. >> absolutely. that's also the case. there are 20 plus other massacres happening in the united states that folks don't know about. americans are ignoant of our history. the republican assault of education trying to control school textbooks in texas. three states control the education of kids in america. texas, california and new york because of the number of textbooks they buy and when you see folks that say no, there were servants when it comes to slavery. now you have idiots that want to ban critical race theory that can't define critical race theory and can't spell critical race theory. you're dealing with white fear. you have people who are wholly ignore rant, you confederate flag waving folks. it time to learn real history in
5:20 am
this country and this is american history. >> amen. >> it happened. >> it is american history. that is exactly right. roland, if you know history, you doesn't have to be squared of history. >> that's right. black lives, ali. >> the host of "roland martin up filtered." follow him on twitter by the way, he's almost as energetic on twitter as in real life. two confirmed dead in a mass shooting at a banquet hall. i'll talk to the lieutenant general that led the review of the quite capitol and the illinois congressman about the failed january 6th commission and on this memorial day, we honor all the men and women that died in service of this down industry and remember u.s. capitol police officer brian sicknick and 35 republican senators that let him down. 5 ren senators that let him down
5:21 am
another day, another chance. it could be the day you break the sales record, or the day there's appointments nonstop. with comcast business, you get the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses, and you can get the advanced cybersecurity solutions you need with comcast business securityedge. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. get started with a great offer, and ask how you can add comcast business securityedge. plus, for a limited time, ask how to get a $500 prepaid card when you upgrade. call today.
5:24 am
overseas but died fighting for the capitol by insurrectionists. there are many questions surrounding the circumstances and insurrection and because 35 senators voted against it, it's possible we may never get them answered. these are those senators. take a good look at their faces. members of the capitol police force were beaten, stabbed, dragged, insulted, spat on and killed on january 6th while protecting these 35 senators. i wonder if these 35 senators that walk the halls where blood was spilled, if they can look at the officers in the eyes that saved their lives. they take an oath and senators
5:25 am
5:26 am
5:27 am
bad move, guys! get a freshly made footlong from subway® instead! like a classic italian b.m.t.® stacked with fresh veggies. there's a subway® three blocks from here! choose better, be better. and now save when you order in the app. subway®. eat fresh. ♪ look at what's happened to me.♪ ♪ i can't believe it myself.♪ maybe it is dirtier than it looks. it is dirtier than it looks. try tide hygienic clean. what happens to your body language when your underarms are cared for? ♪ ♪ it shows! our new dove advanced care formula is effective... and kind to skin, leaving underarms cared for and you... more confident and carefree. [lazer beam and sizzling sounds] ♪♪
5:29 am
history says: fine jewelry for occasions. we say: forget occasions. (snap) fine jewelry for every day, minus the traditional markups. ♪♪ been a troubling rise in antis-semitic hate in the united states between fighting between israel and hamas. it received more than 190 reports of antis-semitic incidents. the hate is despicable and unconscionable and something some people have associated in some cases incorrectly with
5:30 am
legitimate criticism of policy and action. how do you criticize israel that is necessary and important to do with any government while simultaneously fighting anti-semitism. there are five helpful markers to distinguish criticism. if you see jews as influencers behind the world events and used word zionist as code word for jew or dismiss the humanity of israelis and assume the israeli government speaks for all jews. that last one is important if you want to fight anti-semitism. just like good american patriots were able to criticize the u.s. government for the last four years, two weeks ago i said and
5:31 am
wrote that the israeli government is guilty of apartheid and sited and documented the reasons why i thought because having witnessed the situation in the west bank and gaza in the way many israel le have never done and my families fighting apartheid in south africa. it was not a popular opinion in hopes of supporters of israel as i am will take a look what they are doing under their control. the point is to apply pressure to live up to the promise of being a fair, equatable and democratic society which it currently doesn't do. joining me is rabbi jill jacob the executive director of an organization that trains and mobilizes rabbis and cantors to stand up for human rights the author of "where justice dwells." thank you for being with us. the first matter is that regardless of your ability or willingness to krit siesz criti
5:32 am
policies of israel. there is no space in this discussion and unfortunately, some people mix those two up. >> thank you. it's wonderful to be back with you and yes, it true, there is a lot of confusion. it's helpful to understand what anti-semitism is. it's hatred of jews and a prejudice that goes back more than 2,000 years that is basically a giant conspiracy theory that sees jews as a corrupting force in society and something that has been true every place the jews have lived in the christian world and muslim world and jews are seen as a corrupting force that's led to prejudice and restrictions on what professions you can be in, where we can live, led to expultions and justification for
5:33 am
hatred of jews not based in religion. it was created to justify how they could still hate jews even when jews were in some cases some jews converted. that's a word that stuck. it's important to understand that even though it's a confusing word, what it means is hatred of jews and part of the confusion is jews don't neatly fit into any box. we're not just a religion. we see ourselves as a people, the term a people has religious ritual traditions. we have a history. we have languages, and of course, we have a land. so denying the jewish history connection to the land to israel is anti-semitism however once israel became a sovereign nation, a modern nation state in 1948 and a member of the u.n.
5:34 am
that meant israel was now responsible for following the same human laws as every other country. criticizing israel or the quite or any other country based on how well it follows human rights laws is absolutely legitimate. my organization that represents more than 2,000 rabbis criticizes israel for the record on occupation and creeping annexation and punishment including the disproportionate force in gaza and criticize hamas for targeting civilians with rockets, which is also a war crime. so one can criticize israel even forcefully using very strong language when they protest, one can even boycott without that.
5:35 am
>> your title starts with rabbi, maybe you have a slightly easier time of this distinction you make because you are actually part of a large group of people who are socially and politically justice seekers and as such, you are able to criticize hamas for its humanitarian violations and its sort of bad doings, as well as the government of israel. how do you respond to people that say the criticism of the government of israel does cross that line into anti-semitism despite the things it's importa line. so there are some people on right that want to say any criticism of israel is anti-semitism or any criticism that they really don't like that makes them feel uncomfortable is anti-semitism and people on the left that say no criticism of israel is anti-semitism but there are places where the criticism crosses the line.
5:36 am
you can use strong language and protest and boycott but when you start to use images and language that have classically been connected with anti-semitism for instance by accusing israel of secretly controlling the world, when you attack individual jews or jewish institutions, israel, of course is a country of almost 9 million people, 80% of whole are jewish citizens, 20% of whom are palestinian citizens and israeli jurisdiction over 5 million palestinians living under occupation so israel is certainly a country that has a majority and jewish population among the citizenship and also, most jews don't live in israel and aren't israeli citizens so attacks individuals on the street and jewish institutions is anti-semitism because it's suggesting there is no difference between jews and the state of israel. and as i said, when you start to deny a jewish history, so people
5:37 am
can -- reasonable people can disagree what the solution is that will guarantee the human rights of israelis and palestinians and what is now israel and the occupied palestinian territory. reasonable people can argue about whether the best solution is one democratic state or by national state or as i believe two states with hard borders or south borders so reasonable people can have that argument, as long as your starting position is you want to guarantee rights or israelis and palestinians. when people start saying jews living in israel, israeli citizens should go back to where their families came from whether that's iraq or poland or the former soviet union as if that were possible and calling for expultion, it's not a solution i think is likely or possible but that's not anti-semitism.
5:38 am
>> rabbi, i always appreciate our conversations and the thoughtfulness you bring. i recommend our viewers follow you on twitter because you're a great source of information on thinking these things through well. thank you for joining us again. jill jacobs. >> thank you for having me on. >> my pleasure. it is memorial day weekend but we're remembering another important part of american history overlooked, the race massacre. the deadly event took hundreds of lives and ripped away economic opportunity and the prospect of prosperity for african-americans in tulsa for decades to come. we'll talk about that next. decades to come. we'll talk about that next now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you're already carrying the virus that causes shingles. in fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles, and the risk only increases as you age. so what can protect you against shingles?
5:39 am
shingrix protects. now you can protect yourself from shingles with a vaccine proven to be over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after vaccination with shingrix. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. talk to your pharmacist or doctor about protecting yourself with shingrix. shingles doesn't care. but we do. tonight...i'll be eating a falafel wrap with sweet potato fries. shingles doesn't care. (doorbell rings) thanks! splitsies? ♪ ♪
5:40 am
oooh...you meant the food, didn't you? ♪ the light. ♪ it comes from within. it drives you. and it guides you. to shine your brightest. ♪ as you charge ahead. illuminating the way forward. a light maker. recognizing that the impact you make comes from the energy you create. introducing the all-electric lyriq. lighting the way. ♪ do you struggle with occasional nerve aches lighting the way. in your hands or feet? try nervivenerve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company. nervive contains alpha lipoic acid to relieve occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. try nervivenerve relief. this is the sound of change. it's the sound of low cash mode from pnc bank giving you the options and extra time needed to help you avoid an overdraft fee.
5:41 am
5:42 am
tomorrow marks 100 years to the day since the tulsa race massacre of 1921. in under 24 hours, hundreds of african-americans were killed and hundreds of homes and businesses were burned to the ground when a white mob descended on the greenwood district known as black wall street. not only were many lives taken, but that single day changed the economic trajectory for the black victims. >> for us as descendants, what would our lives have been if we weren't robbed of our generational wealth? i ponder about laurel stratford
5:43 am
with her great grandfather having the nicest hotel as a black man in the world, he could have been the hilton or marriott. >> tiffany crutcher's great grandmother was a survivor of the event and brings up an important point about the ruined economic legacy and how the damage lingered long after the smoke cleared. by 1940 the likelihood of a black tulsan was lower and the average earnings were 12% lower than if the massacre had never happened. four generations have passed since the massacre and yet, the emotional and economic toll remains present in the city. for more, i'm joined by staff writer for the new yorker and an msnbc contributor that lives in tulsa, oklahoma.
5:44 am
gilian, common ration is not the celebration and the massacre like other massacres and tragedies in america including like slavery, it is the lingering memory that's the impediment, not the commission. >> that's absolutely it. the unwillingness to confront what happened and to talk in the starkest terms about the implications of those actions 100 years ago for the world that we're living in right now and, you know, just to further your point about the economic damage that was done here, when we look in 1906, the riot that happened in atlanta, when we look and go back to 1982 with ida b. wells the journalist that fought against lynching, they keep making this point of the attack on economically prosperous block
5:45 am
-- black communities and we see what happens on black wall street in may, june of 1921, 100 years ago this week. >> one of the things that you wrote about and i want to quote from this article, you said the moral indictment vanished as soon as the smoke from the smoldering home dissipated but what was captured on video speaking about george floyd prompted a national reckoning with race and spurred an outpouring of condemnation and albeit important endorsements of the phrase black lives matter from the state corners of the corporate world. are we in a different place now that when bad things happen to black people, we cannot avoid it or ignore it the way the tulsa massacre was ignored for so long? >> we hope so. more specifically, what i was talking about there is the campaign of invisibility that
5:46 am
befell this community right after that where articles of what was happening were excised from the local newspapers before they were micro filmed and it almost became a non-event. people hid the truth from the subsequent generations and only through the fugitive tellings of these elders in the community about what actually happened is the story able to survive for us to know and we look at what happened with george floyd, that video made its way around the world in minutes after it became available to us so certainly the hope is that you can't hide these things anymore but the further hope is that we don't have them anymore. we're not at that place. >> let's talk about prosperity and that whole notion that if they hadn't destroyed it and other places like it in america, black wealth would be further ahead than it is right now.
5:47 am
it's somewhere between ten and 15% of white household family wealth in america. until that problem is solved, that problem goes back to slavery and to 1619, we're not going to have real equality. what's your best view of how we solve for underlying black wealth inequality in america? >> i think there is a lot here. we're talking about this greenwood community. the smallest step is that there needs to be some sort of compensation for the three remaining survivors 100, 106, and 107-year-old people who were actual witness to what happened and alive when this happened and to their descendants and a means of establishing some economic viability here as a model for what happens elsewhere. >> gilani, there is still a movement in oklahoma, though. the governor said you can't teach things about history that
5:48 am
will make current students whom he says had nothing to do with this, that must not sit well with you. >> no, not as a historian because what you do is facilitate the replication of those atrocities in the present in order for history to function as any kind of cautionary device, we have to be willing to confront and learn what happened and to speak openly about the failures of the past. if not, the only thing that you do is aid and abet the recommission of these actions in the present and future. >> good to see you, my friend, thank you for joining me again. he's a staff writer for the new yorker and msnbc contributor and professor at colombia university. vietnam was covid safe in the past but now battling a variant and "velshi "is
5:49 am
available as a podcast. listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. e wherever you get your podcasts. with certain inflammatory conditions. because there are options. like an “unjection.” xeljanz. the first and only pill of its kind that treats moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, or moderate to severe ulcerative colitis when other medicines have not helped enough. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections, like tb and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms, or are prone to infections. serious, sometimes fatal infections, cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra may increase risk of death. tears in the stomach or intestines and serious allergic reactions have happened. needles. fine for some. but for you, there's a pill that may provide symptom relief. ask your doctor about the pill first prescribed for ra
5:50 am
more than seven years ago. xeljanz. an “unjection.” people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes more tare waking uprs ago. to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. people taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help right away if you get a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or an allergic reaction.
5:51 am
serious side effects may include pancreatitis. tell your provider about vision problems or changes. taking rybelsus® with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases low blood sugar risk. side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration which may worsen kidney problems. wake up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ please don't take my sunshine away ♪ you may pay as little as $10 per prescription. ask your healthcare provider about rybelsus® today. - oh. - what's going on? - oh, darn! - let me help. lift and push and push! there... it's up there. hey joshie... wrinkles send the wrong message. help prevent them before they start with downy wrinkleguard. think of what peanuts have given humanity! fuel for vast migrations! sustenance for mountaineering expeditions and long journeys across the world! but most importantly?
5:52 am
they give us something to eat when we drink beer. planters. a nut above. before discovering nexium 24hr they gi to treat herng to eat frequent heartburn, marie could only imagine enjoying freshly squeezed orange juice. now no fruit is forbidden. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? not all 5g networks are created equal. ♪ t-mobile. america's largest, fastest, most reliable 5g network. a new highly contagious variant of covid-19 has been detected in vietnam that has fueled new cases. it appears to be a mix of the
5:53 am
covid variants first found in the united kingdom and india. vietnam reported less than 6,400 infections and fewer than 50 deaths next year but now it faces a brand-new challenge. meanwhile, back in the u.s., the white house is taking a second look at the beginning of the pandemic. there are two leading theories. it naturally spread from animals to humans in wuhan, china or a possibly virus leak in a lab. it has put china on the defense and the country is accusing the u.s. of politicizing the pandemic and ignoring facts and science. all scenarios lead back to china. this could have a significant impact on the u.s.-chinese relationship. joining me now democratic congressman jane harmon of california. she's the president of the wood row wilson center. she's the author of the
5:54 am
brand-new book "insanity defense." congresswoman harmon, good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> you, too. >> let's start with a topic you thought of many, many, times, and that's what is the u.s.'s relationship with china and how does this discussion affect it. >> reporter: >> well, when i wrote the book which started when i left congress a decade ago. imagine that, ali, at the wilson center. i just completed my ten years. i was making the point that we didn't have a national security strategy. we hadn't had one since the cold war ended and we won and russia lost. we did not anticipate china's rise. we missed the whole thing. we thought they wanted to be us. they don't want to be us. and finally giving credit to the trump administration, they retooled our national security strategy, which isn't quite one, but to focus on china. and now the biden administration
5:55 am
has a real national security doctrine which includes china and it also includes the pandemic, which you just mentioned. so what should our strategy need? i think it should have to be competition. we just can't be cooperation and wish that things will get better. nor can it be confrontation and a path to war. competition is where we should be in the economic sphere. by the way, i think it is proper to do a more thorough investigation of the pandemic and the origins of the pandemic because that lab you mentioned is right across the street from the wet market. what a coincidence. we have unexamined intel. i think our intelligence community is doing so much better. with china, i think that tougher stance is right. congress has been there for a long time but it needs to be a nuanced stance.
5:56 am
competition on trade and confrontational when china does bad acts maybe including the pandemic. >> there are a couple other things going on with china. they are flying fighter jets over into taiwan air space. we have seen repeated apologies from american celebriies who dare refer to taiwan as a country. we have seen pro-democracy protesters in hong kong. how involved should we be in these matters? they're testing the waters on taiwan and they will count on the fact that the world will not do anything about it. >> the hong kong chapter did not go well for us. hong kong was an oasis and a real economic engine for mainland china, and this move, i think, imperils its already fragile economy, oh, by the way. taiwan is a little different.
5:57 am
taiwan has been more independent. there is a one china two systems policy that we have observed. we have provided arms to taiwan over the years. i think china is testing us to see when we will react. we didn't mention the south seas where china has build up basically air bases on things that weren't even islands before they did this. and we have been claiming the right to free navigation along with the countries around these areas. so, again, it's part of this very nuanced policy we have to adhere to. i don't think it is a sensible act to me, not at this time in the world. i think finding ways to compete and confirm where we must is a better strategy. and i think we have the a team of foreign policy here. joe biden is our first experienced foreign policy president since george w.h. bush, the first george bush.
5:58 am
joe biden has also got the a team helping him and very, very good people are thinking about this in a context of a strategy, not just tactics. >> i don't have a lot of time here, but i was in congress in the late '90s working for lee hamilton, whom you know who was named as the co-chair of the 9/11 commission. i think of guys like lee hamilton and the job they did that was nonpartisan to come up to a solution to a great threat and then i think of january 6th and i lament the fact we missed this opportunity. >> give me a second to say, first of all, lee hamilton was my mentor and i succeeded him for a decade at the wilson center. and he sat in my office, the one i just left, to over see the writing of the 9/11 report on a bipartisan basis. that was the proposal so far as i know that susan collins was trying to push through a couple
5:59 am
days ago for the 1/6 commission. 1/6 could have been the most catastrophic advance in our country had they succeeded in taking out the house and senate leadership and vice president pence. let's get on with this. let's learn. i was part of the recovery from 9/11. it wasn't perfect. but we had no attacks from foreign groups since. 1/6 was a catastrophic attack from what i see and saw from a domestic terrorist group. and we really have to understand just as we have to understand the emergence of the coronavirus in china. >> jane, you have always been a good friend to whatever show i have been on during your tenure at the wilson center and i hope that that continues. congratulations on your new book. it is called "insanity defense: while our failure to confront national security problems makes
6:00 am
us less safe." a former nine-term member of congress. thank you for joining us. all right. stick around. if you live in ohio and you get vaccinated, you could become a millionaire. it's part of governor mike dewine's million dollar lottery. so far it's boosted ohio's vaccination rate by a ton. i will talk to the ohio governor about that. another hour of velshi starts right now. all right. it's sunday, may 30th. we begin this hour with the anti-american dissent of the republican party from what was once the proud party of abraham lincoln to being in the throws of donald trump and the big election lie. these 35 senate republicans or, to quote former rnc c
102 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC West Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on