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nation to all enemies foreign and domestic. tomorrow is a day for those who perished in that service earning, if nothing else, their recognition as americans. but even that recognition has come too often hinged on the race of that american soldier. patriotism often assigned a color throughout most of our history. it is precisely why we watched our institutions degraded over the last five years and precisely why the lawmakers who presided over that decay at donald trump's demand continue to do so now. but as those same politicians wrap themselves in the flag this weekend, i challenge that they cannot truly value our late veterans by undermining the institutions they died defending. values like representative democracy, the right to live
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free of brutality, equity under the law and the attack on those values has not ceased, even on this hallowed holiday. even the texas senate early this morning passing perhaps the most repressive voting bill after the nation's rules to suppress black and brown votes. i've talked to a leader of the congressional voting rights caucus, a texan, in just a minute. also tonight, as we mark the 100th anniversary of the tulsa race massacre, when some 300 black citizens, among them veterans of the first world war, were murdered by mobs and bombed by the state, we acknowledged that the fruit of our democracy has never equally been doled out, even to those who fought and died for it.
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but we owe it to those men and women to complete growing that tree of liberty and to right the wrongs they could not. joining me now, texas congressman vici, a democrat. congressman vici, happy memorial day to you and your father. you are the unfortunate guest tonight because this week you led a group of texan democrats sending a letter to merrick garland as the texas senate moved closer to passing exactly what they did in an overnight session last night, which is being cast as the most restrictive voting bill in the nation this morning, one that bans mobile voting booths, restricts drive-thru voting and mandates that early voting be done in person. the impact of it all stated
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overwhelmingly affects colored voters in your state. i'd like to hear what your constituents are saying this afternoon. >> let me say i join you in giving gratitude and thanks to all of our veterans all across the nation and families who have lost veterans who have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country so we can have freedoms like the right to vote. it's really sad and a shame that the texas senate and the texas house is sending this bill to the governor's office that is going to be the most restrictive bill in the entire country. you just went over some of the provisions. they're restricting voting on sunday. that's a restrictive ban we've had for a long time. and i think the worst one of
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all, which is based on the big lie, that's allowing a judge to overturn an election. i'm calling that the birth of a nation provision that they put in there. it's based on complete lies and treachery of american voters illegally voting and stuffing the ballot box. we won't have the leadership we need to have in this country if republicans are going to try to cast themselves as victims of voter fraud when what in reality is happening, and has been happening since the 1800s, is that people in power in this country have tried to use voter suppression laws to stop black people from voting, and that's exactly what is taking place in texas right now. >> and they instituted it in the middle of the night. you talk about souls and the polls and the judges, i remember
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meeting you when you preached in your church years ago when you started running. you thought i didn't remember that. >> i were. >> but now you're a leader of the congressional voting rights caucus, and the only substantive force of what's happening in texas and nearly every other state is federal action. for the people that is largely stalled in the senate, it's fate like many bills seemingly at the emergency of the filibuster debate. i understand for some weeks now, members of the congressional black caucus have been trying to elevate the voting rights advancement act to potentially ease themselves to republicans, provided it passes in the house. what happens now federally? >> reverend, let me tell you, in addition, the voting rights act is hugely important.
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if we don't pass the voting rights bill we allow republicans to continue this rant they're on. you look at what happened in georgia and what's happening in texas. what happens with federal redistricting is just going to be a continuance of what we're seeing right now, and silence ~ing -- silencing black voters across the country, they want to have us vote as few as possible and split us politically. hr-1 takes away the right to redraw these lines by the state legislatures. hr-4 is also important because it restores the voting rights act, and that will keep them about as honest as you can, because otherwise, this is going to really just be probably the
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worst redistricting that black people in this country have ever had since the existence of our country, to be honest with you. >> absolutely. thank you, congressman veasey, for talking to us. congressman, let me start with the biden budget. since congress holds the power of the purse, a discretionary budget is the way for a primary policy for schools, housing choices, hhs, global health programs and more. what does this say and what do you expect the budget to look like when it's passed? >> i think the budget is a big
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result of who president biden is. people have died on both sides from covid. we can't wait and have a slow burn that we saw happen right after the post-2008 recession. it will have tremendously negative effects on our families. this is a really good investment to not only get us out of the covid-induced economic slump but really make our families thrive so they could actually live fulfilling the american dream and buying homes and starting businesses. lastly, to really start to hammer away at the economic inequities that have existed for far too long in this country. >> let's talk about infrastructure. with the republican counteroffer including a new spending of just 17% of what biden's compromised
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offer proposed, will the congress now move forward with budget reconciliation? >> in my opinion, if the president thinks he's got a little more room to negotiate, then we should give him more time. but there needs to be a real ernest approach from the republicans, not just another attempt at really slowing down the whole process. and trying to use money that's already been allocated as a leverage tool is ridiculous. that money is going to families that, money is going to businesses to try to get restarted. that is not the way to do this. we're not going to rob middle class families in order for the republicans to protect their rich joiners. at the end of the day, if we need to raise taxes on those and make $400,000 a year in order to
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pay for this, we shall do it and not those who have really taken it on the chin during this recession. >> while we all saw the violent mob restoring the capital on june 26. just this week, congress men. . marjorie taylor greene has consistently put down her colleagues. what can we do about the escalating, threatening behavior of members of congress. >> i think the most important thing we can do is make sure people know this is the republican party as we see it right now. number two, these members of
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congress are in very safe districts. the way to actually punish them is to go after the moderates and other sdriblgts and get them out of power. they're nobody unless they have power, and if you want to see what's really scary about marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz, this is the potential of him becoming speaker of the house. he would only empower them more. i'm not afraid of marjorie taylor greene or matt gaetz. combined they don't make one. they empower the extremists in this country to think they are actually. if you find yourself in a situation. many many. i think it's important that we
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also ice lem maybe their constituents don't karks but. it's not good more democracy and it's not good for humanity. joining me now is a man from louisville, kentucky, greg fisher. mr. mayor, gun rallies have continued in america. according to the "new york times" as of wednesday, 232 mass shootings have occurred since the start of 2021. just this long ago a shooting occurred in florida that left at least 22 people injured and two dead. these shootings are still happening. they are a constant tragedy in american life and have not stopped. you are the.
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>> the them, gig people the right to vote. denial of 16 it. the denial of the basic ability for people to be when they go into the work force and just no interaction wise. congress just steps by the republican party and just looks the other way. it's unconscionable. you also reached the one-year anniversary that were the first
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the it will -- that innocent blang bystanders and others. >> there is no doubt that this is america's story right now and we need to see radical performance. we need national standards por policing as well. president biden is leading that effort. we need and we have to have reform, like we've done at our police chief, building a culture. no skmaert it'sen important part of a dilk ger system.
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>> this week aufls the one-kwleer an slers have i. spoke with -- from a president trump a year ago. ly if sympathy hasn't turned in the white house, what do you hope to see as in an ear of fd. >> they havely blocking it, and 92% of the income comes from people in the city. we have a president who understands that. we have a president putting $5
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billion in the jobs plan. it's critical that passes, because you're talking about mass shootings, but a bigger figure for us is just a daily toll of gun violence happening in cities all across america, again, with guns being all over the country. so president biden also have the courage to take away guns and then criticize the city for gun violence. there is poverty, inequity, you can take a look at where the gaps are, and that's an area that the whole country should be aware of and fix.
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>> asian violence anti, black violence has been on the rise. as a mayor of a major city, how are you protecting your residents from the ongoing threat of these bigoted attacks? >> the worst thing in the world is to stand by and say nothing. history is an example of that when relief has been silenced or the public has been cowed by bullies. you have to be very impressive about condemning it. this year is rowland miles. we're trying to be a voice for unity. we spoke loudly and we spoke proudly. whether you're a mayor or the president or the garbage man, you have to be able to speak out against any type of discrimination in a hate crime. it's been the confluence of
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mayors we've been loud about that. we're going to continue to be loud about it. this is not what america is about. you're going to lobby for the people fighting for their lives. there'ses. respect our country, speak out and get with it. >> thank you, mayor greg fischer. coming up, "politics nation." there is a lot for including keeping our country safe. first my colleague richard lui with the stories. richard? >> reporter: the cdc announcing
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50% of the adult population is now at least partly wowed. as mask and other safety protocols loosen this weekend. . it will all garnld. officials say it may be a targeted attack. nasa released a new photo and what a photo it is. it shows the inside of the milky way galaxy, a galaxy where earth is. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. h reverend al sharpton right after the break. of self-awareness you now hold in your hand?
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for this week's "rise up," with memorial day tomorrow falling on the 100th anniversary of the tulsa race massacre, i want to talk about the thousands of black soldiers who have fought for this country abroad only to come home and face discrimination and death right here in america. the history of black sacrifice for american ideals is older than our nation itself. the first casualty of the american revolution was a free black patriot named crispis adams, gunned down in 1970. it would be decades before our government would find that slavery was untenable and
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barbaric as an institution. blacks made up nearly 10% of the union. the armed forces remained segregated well into the 20th century with thousands of black soldiers serving in world war i, primarily limited in their roles serves for officers even as they fought and died alongside them. those who returned home alive faced constant degradation and peril on the home front. even black veterans who returned to prosperous black communities were under fire. almost literally the tulsa race massacre of 1921 destroyed a community and killed as many as 300 people. one tulsa segregationist blamed black soldiers for the attack on their own community, saying putting black soldiers, quote, on the same plane as white
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soldiers was the leading cause of the massacre. even in the face of this kind of violence, black americans still enlisted to fight for democracy in world war ii, and they were once again maligned by their own commanding officers, forced into segregated units and denigrated by white soldiers. discrimination has not been banished from its ranks. the scourge of cynicism still faces soldiers today, even as they put their life on the line in combat and peacekeeping missions. this memorial day, remember the thousands of soldiers who lost their lives for ideals that this country is still striving to live up to. they fought for freedom before they were free for democracy,
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before they could vote for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, before any real guarantee to them. honor their members by fighting those fights and by advocating for policies that will keep today's soldiers safe and respected. call your senators and representatives and demand more than platitudes. no more claiming support our troops without adequate funding as well as action of discrimination inside some military ranks. as you enjoy the holiday tomorrow, don't forget your duty to those fallen thousands. the least of what we can do to civilians. they fought for a more perfect kwlun that they laid down their
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welcome back to "politics nation." we have a lot to talk about with my panel. joining me now is economic strategist iesha mills and republican strategist tyler and economic analyst. iesha, let me start with you. in the dead of the night, the republican-controlled senate passed one of the most restrictive voting bills yet. it is expected to be passed in the republican control house and could be signed by the governor as early as tonight. texas republicans are far from alone. republicans in dozens of states are following suit. how can we keep out democracy when one party is so desperate to stop people from voting?
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>> i think this needs to come back to the first thing you said, in the dead of the night. republicans are trying to move these measures in a way that not only discredits the masses for people of color, but doing it in a way they are forcing an issue and ending up having to pass these issues in the dead of the night because it's not very popular. the majority of people don't believe it should be difficult to vote, because they're not preserving the sanctity of the franchise, it's not to address any real problems. what it's doing is it intentionally is undermining participation based on race. and that is really the cut and dry of it. so the question becomes where do we go from here? i don't know how we negate any of this until we get right with the real source and the cause of what's happening.
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and the truth is that republicans today and, frankly, white people since the beginning of this country, have been doing everything they can possibly do to disenfranchise black people particularly. now as the numbers are growing in terms of people of color and we see a democratic evolution happening in this country, they want to disenfranchise all people who aren't white. until we're ready to address that, i don't know where we go from here. >> president biden attended a ceremony today in delaware this morning in honor of memorial day. here's what he had to say. >> we haven't tested. we'll surely test it further. but i know that we as a people are up to the task. each generation of americans receives a precious gift of liberty and we work to share it with more people, to make our country more open, more free, more fair. >> now, that seems like a pretty standard patriotic vision of
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america. why are so many republicans trying to paint this man as some radical idealogue? >> anyone who knows president biden will have a tough time painting him as radical. the fact he has a strict budget on an infrastructure plan that includes lifting up all of our families, if that makes him radical, so be it. >> the trump body used to be the republican party, but let me go to you, rick. there was yet another shooting this morning in miami, as i said earlier in the show. the vast majority of americans, democrat, republican and independent, want action on the issue of gun control. background checks are hugely
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popular among all voters. why do republicans keep stonewalling votes on these commonsense policies? >> there is no leadership on the issue. the reality is there are 40% gun owners, 40% of people live in a household with guns, and my contention is no one is talking to the gun owners. i'm a gun owner and i think that the gun owners that i know and the people i shoot with are okay having a gun. i know there are people i train with and we train to get better and be safe and to protect ourselves. i don't know anyone i shoot with who wants a lunatic to have a gun. and there are things that we can do, but you've got to get gun owners on board with reform so they can buy into it.
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it is less than americans want, and there are many things we can do to keep americans safe, not only from people getting guns who shouldn't have them, but every gun owner, for instance, should be handing out suicide prevention information because people -- that's one of the number one causes in the way people take their lives is by firearms. i don't know any dealer, certainly not mine, who wants to sell a gun to someone who is going to take their own life or take someone else's life. until you start talking to those 70 million gun owners and say, what reasonable thing -- and there will be a lot of reasonable things -- they're willing to do because they want to keep guns out of the hands of lunatics. >> congresswoman marjorie taylor greene has already been stripped of her committee assignments, and now she seems to spend her time harassing democratic congresswomen of color. not even a month after being
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sworn in, congresswoman bush had to move her office away from greene, and they found her chasing alexandria ocasek-cortez through the halls. why would you have this person in your congress? >> she should be removed from congress. there should be a vote tomorrow to remove her from congress. in particular, why would senator mccarthy and republicans want to be defending her? she doesn't sit on any committees. the she doesn't do anything while they harass her colleagues. it's childish behavior and they need to put a stop to it. not just for the safety of other members and the decorum that's
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supposed to be watched at the house and the senate and congress, but actually for the safety of the people there. this person is mentally unstable. >> aisha mills and rick tyler, thank you both for being with us tonight. up next, as we approach the 100th year of the tulsa race massacre, we talk about its history in hopes that it never repeats itself. that's after the break. repeats itself that's after the break our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement. (other money manager) sounds like a big responsibility. (naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. fisher investments is clearly different. ah, she thought that squirrel on your brand-new flat screen tv
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a century ago, the state of oklahoma in concert with the racist mob destroyed a uniquely prominent black community in the city of tulsa based mostly on a lie, but mainly because it existed, and threatened the mob's world view. some 300 black residents of the city's greenwood district were murdered between may 31st and june 1st, 1921. children included as literal bombs were raining down by world war i planes on black veterans of that same war. the story, a well-known incident even to black schoolchildren when i was growing up has been elevated in recent years amid our mainstream's general shift
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toward inclusivity. what some would call wokeness. but for the few survivors, the descendants of the black residents that have embraced the history of tulsa, awareness is not enough, they say. it's time for repairareparative justice. joining me is the pastor in tulsa. thank you for joining us tonight. i don't want to take too much time explaining the significance of black wall street or the significance of the massacre to the audience on this weekend, but as the pastor of the only surviving edifice of that horrible day, the church in greenwood, i would like to hear from you first as to how those two days in 1921 still manifest
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in the community today. >> reverend, thank you so much for having me on your show, and those dreadful 18 hours here in the greenwood community, tulsa, oklahoma were the most horrific time in american history as far as racial massacres in our country. for the first time in our country's history, we had a white deputized mob who did what the confederacy couldn't do, what japan couldn't do, and that is drop bombs on tulsa. before 9/11, we had tulsa. and it still resonates because the bodies of those who were killed are still lying in mass graves. it still resonates because, to this day, not one investigation by our local district attorney or our state's attorney general has ever been made into the worst crime in our city and state's history. >> i remember about a year ago,
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i was there in greenwood with you and dr. tiffany crutcher for juneteenth, and i looked at that church that was standing there, and while it continued to be a hill for conservatives to die on, you contend that our history is filled with presidents of reparative action for our government, and that forms the core argument that they are due from the descendants of the murders or descendants of the tulsa riot massacre, is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. we did this under president ronald reagan in the 1980s for the japanese-americans. we did support it for the jewish holocaust, and i agree with that. we did it also, and i don't agree with it, for the
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confederacy. after the civil war, we gave reparation to the south when they killed more than 75,000 american soldiers. tomorrow is memorial day when we memorialize and salute american soldiers. they have no problem with it until you put a black face a -- on reparation. >> that's why i wanted to put that out there, because people do not understand learning the last few years about greenwood and the riot there in tulsa, many of us grew up hearing it from our parents and those of us who had it in school, but no one talks about they were never given anything in reparative justice. before we run out of time, pastor, nearly a year ago president trump visited tulsa on
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juneteenth. that is why i came the day before he came. it was rightly viewed as an insult to the black community there. but did it bring national attention to the holiday, both juneteenth and with it the 1921 massacre? i wonder if president biden's visit scheduled to be in the next day or so along with the media elevation along with the story of 1921 add anything to your hopes for reparations for your community as more cities and private organizations bring reparative restoration nationwide. >> for president trump, he presumed he bought a ticket to juneteenth and claimed no one knew about it. black forces have been celebrating juneteenth since we were liberated.
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we welcomed president biden coming. we've had guests today, we've had chris coombs, james clyburn, and your friend and my mentor reverend jesse jackson here today. he'll be speaking again tomorrow at our church. i'll be coming in. thank you, reverend dr. robert turner, my thanks to you. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. - i'm norm. - i'm szasz. [norm] and we live in columbia, missouri. we do consulting, but we also write. [szasz] we take care of ourselves constantly; it's important. we walk three to five times a week, a couple miles at a time. - we've both been taking prevagen for a little more than 11 years now. after about 30 days of taking it, we noticed clarity that we didn't notice before. - it's still helping me. i still notice a difference. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. what makes new salonpas arthritis gel so good for arthritis pain? salonpas contains the most prescribed topical pain relief ingredient.
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those rights and dealing with making sure the rights are for everyone, which is what we told those that served they were serving for. it is on this year that we're reminded of the massacre in tulsa, where even those blacks that fought in world war i were bombed and killed. their businesses destroyed. and a whole community leveled by men and women who decided based on the color of their skin and false information of a young black boy supposedly having assaulted a young black girl. how do we deal with those scars on the american story? so as you deal with memorial day tomorrow, it's not about just barbecues. it's not about since the pandemic is slowly leaving our
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lives that we can now get a little closer together, though i tell you to be careful and mask where people are told to continue wearing masks. it should also be about what kind of america are we asking veterans to serve and what kind of america did americans die for, and remind them from tulsa to george floyd, the scar of racism is still here 100 years later. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. msnbc continues its coverage at the top of the hour. isn't the awards ♪ ♪ or the acclaim. the best part of stepping into the spotlight
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this sunday, republicans block the january 6th commission. >> donald trump's big lie has now fully enveloped the republican party. >> only six republicans vote for an independent panel to investigate the assault on the capitol. >> it doesn't look like we're going to have the opportunity to get the answers that way. >> i think the basic goal of our democratic friends is to keep relitigating in public what happened back on january 6th. >> what this vote says about our democracy. i'll talk to former republican congresswoman barbara comstock who spent the week unsuccessfully lobbying republican senators, and democratic congressman jason
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