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is running out. pete buttigieg says republicans have one week to reach a consensus with democrats. if there's no clear direction by the time congress returns, the white house says it will move on without any gop support. some democrats point to the republican filibuster on the january 6th commission as proof that the opposition is not willing to negotiate in good faith. and they argue that time is running out for any meaningful legislation. as bernie sanders put it on twitter, quote, the american people want action, not never-ending negotiations and obstructionism. let's get into it. with me, garrett haik, and peter baker. welcome to you all. kelly, i want to start with you. the white house aiming for some
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major legislative wins with major dollars behind it. what is the plan to get it done? >> one of the challenges has been the flurry of activity at the beginning of the president's term, suggesting there was a way to get things done. then it slowed down. the white house is looking for real action, bipartisanship on infrastructure. today was supposed to be a critical see where the wind is moment, and that has been extended by transportation secretary pete buttigieg. saying they need a plan back from republicans, otherwise the white house says they're prepared to move with a democrats only approach. infrastructure is considered something where there could be some resolution here, because republicans say they would like to do some of the funding for hard infrastructure. they've raised their offer to just short of $1 trillion.
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the president has come down from his $2.3 trillion. will it happen? at least there seems to be some good faith. the president says he has spoken with the leader of the group of republicans working on this. that's one area where it could happen. also, police reform is another area where the white house has kept a little bit of a distance, allowing lawmakers to work together on this, and they believe there's a real chance to come to a resolution. they missed the deadline of the anniversary of george floyd's death, but could it still happen? it gets harder when you look at immigration and voting rights, but the path for those seems much harder to contemplate at this point. >> garrett, talk to me about what has happened on capitol hill. the june 7th deadline has been pushed essentially seven days or
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so. they want bipartisan legislation, but where are we? is there a sense they could strike a deal? >> i think they are quite far apart. but i would frame it differently. ultimately, it's the white house that will have to make a decision, along with their democratic allies. just last thursday, senate republicans presented this counter-offer to the president that goes part of the way as kelly was saying, to what the white house wants to see. but it finds that money in very different places than the white house plan. the white house plan involves racing the corporate tax right significantly. the senate republicans have said they're not interested in doing that at all. they want to look in the government's couch cushions for money. looking at money that was appropriated but not spent in the covid relief bill to spend on the infrastructure projects.
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but senate republicans can only offer things to the white house and the democrats who control both chambers. ultimately, it will be the democrats who decide whether they want to play in that same sandbox with republicans, or if they think they have the votes to go with a reconciliation package. that's the democratic-only alternative, if you can get all 50 senate democrats and a majority in the house. and it's time for democrats to decide, is this what the republicans are offering, the kind of thing we want to engage in, or are we together enough to pull in the other direction? >> garrett, do they have the votes from folks like manchin and sinema? >> that is the question. on friday, before they left town, joe manchin was asked about the idea of how long do you continue the negotiations? he said something to the effect of, you always continue and hope
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to find a way. joe manchin is ultimately the person who will have to be convinced that the republican alternative not good enough. and this is the challenge, for every concession you make to move the package slightly to the right, make it a little bit smaller, a little bit more conservative, to placate manchin or pick up a republican vote, do you lose more liberal votes in the house? do progressives decide to not support a package that is not as big and bold as the president has put forward? there's no margin for error for democrats in either chamber. >> it's interesting, peter, because joe manchin was pretty angry about the vote against the january 6th commission. i'm wondering if democrats are willing to seize on something like that, wanting them to move forward with an independent commission.
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saying, look, they're not willing to negotiate. get onboard with the reconciliation. >> i think they did use that issue to push their desire to get rid of the filibuster. look, if you can't even get ten republicans, you can't get the 60 votes on something that seems so obvious as investigating an insurrection, how will you get ten republicans on big things like infrastructure, on social spending, all the other issues like immigration and gun control that they would like to pass. but that doesn't mean that's moved joe manchin, as angry as he is about the january 6th vote, he's not necessarily shifted his position on the filibuster. just getting to 50, as garrett said, is a challenge enough. and it's one that biden is very well aware of. 36 years in the senate, he knows this better than anybody. the deadline about a week from
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now is important, but deadlines come and go. and they're flexible. it's the deadline up to the minute it's not a deadline, if he feels like they're making progress. but democrats saying go ahead and move on democrats only, that's not biden's instinct. but he will not necessarily wait forever. >> kelly, what is the white house thinking at this point? looking back at the covid relief bills, we saw them as good faith negotiations. they wanted to get it pushed through, they understand the desperation that americans faced. they needed the money in their pockets. do these seem like good faith negotiations at this point as well, or is the white house truly invested in getting bipartisan legislation passed? >> there was urgency, with money
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running out for unemployment benefits and being able to call it an emergency, giving democrats the ability to pull it through. this does take on a different character. the president says inaction is not a possibility he will entertain when it comes to infrastructure. can they do something? at a minimum, can the democrats find a package that seems within the realm of possibility? trying to stack that with other areas of progress? the president wants to demonstrate that he can lead some bipartisanship for a result he thinks can help americans across the country. so not getting bipartisanship on infrastructure would make it harder to think about bipartisanship on other things where there are more hardened
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opinions. and time is an issue. once we get through this legislative hot summer, there's very little time before the end of the year. then they're in an election year. and that will certainly change the dynamics for how lawmakers on all ends of the spectrum will view each and every vote they cast. >> i'm sure this is not a president who wants to get to an election year with nothing legislatively passed besides the relief bill. tomorrow, mika will have an exclusive interview with vice president kamala harris. that's tomorrow morning on msnbc. and new fallout from texas, as democrats staged a surprise walkout. one by one, they left the house chamber in protest, effectively
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killing the bill for now. governor abbott is vowing to bring up that bill in a special session of the texas legislature. it would ban drive-through voting, limit voting hours, make it more difficult to cast mail-in ballots, and empower partisan poll watchers. allie, take us through this. it's an expansive and incredibly restrictive bill. expand on what is inside the bill, and also the late-night walkout from democrats. >> reporter: let's start there. with the late-night walkout, this was the last thing they could do. they had been filing points of order, trying to drag it out. they were on the clock last night. this bill had to pass before midnight, or it would be defeated in the short-term. they succeeded by walking out,
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there were not enough lawmakers present to go to a vote, and the clock elapsed. but the governor saying he will bring it up again in a special legislative session. this is one of the top legislative priorities for the governor and republicans in the state writ large. democrats, while they've gained some time, they're pointing voters and the public generally to the dangerous things they see in this bill. specifically, looking at things like language that could make it easier to overturn an election in texas, as well as things like that ban on early morning voting on sundays. that is something that democrats point to as potentially hampering souls to the polls. churchgoers who go to services and then go together to vote. that's an event i've covered throughout various races across the country. it's a big vehicle, especially for black and brown voters, to
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get to the polls. and something that democrats are trying to draw people's attention to as something they see as dangerous and restrictive. there's also a federal component. as much as democrats are trying to increase the pressure in the state of texas, they're also looking to washington, d.c., trying to get their fellow democratic lawmakers to move the legislation that has been stagnant in the senate because it lacks votes to avoid the filibuster and pass. this is another thing that democrats are questioning whether or not to go ahead with getting rid of the filibuster. there are still some democrats making that impossible. not enough appetite yet there. but federal reforms to voting rights could be a way to balance this out, as republican legislatures across the country begin to enact sweeping voting bills. >> ali, thank you. good to see you. up next, rising concern over a new highly transmissible covid
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variant in vietnam. as the mystery over the origin of the virus gets murkier. and a close look at a major undertaking in identifying the remains of the heroes of pearl harbor. we'll be right back. l be right . what happens when we welcome change? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron.
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health officials warning the new variant spreads quickly by air. no cases of it have been reported in the u.s. with variants driving new waves of infection, especially across asian, there's renewed attention on the origins of the virus. >> there will be covid-26 and covid-32, unless we fully understand the origins of covid-19. >> reporter: president biden setting a 90-day deadline for u.s. intelligence agencies to get closer to knowing whether the virus spread from a bat to an animal to humans or if it leaked from a lab. now, calls for a deeper investigation. >> we would ask this would be done in an environment where science and health is the objective, and not blame and politics. >> reporter: but the renewed
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debate around china's top virus lab. a recent intelligence report found three workers at the lab were treated for covid-like symptoms at a hospital before the outbreak in wuhan. pressure is mounting on china to provide greater transparency and more access to data. the government accuses the u.s. of a smear campaign and political manipulation in trying to blame china. china wants other countries and labs to be looked at, including in the u.s. that's been the position from almost the outset. the only real change is the lab leak theory has made it into the mainstream. u.s. intelligence will have to lean on international partners, though scientists are quick to remind us that we may never know. >> thank you, janice.
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reporting from china for us. i want to bring in a field epidemiologist. thanks for joining us. really appreciate it. first and foremost, how common is it in instances like this, how important is it for research purposes and to make sure that there are not more pandemic outbreaks like we've seen over the last year? >> well, you know, peter hotez is exactly right. we need to understand the origins of this virus because we need to be able to prevent future pandemics. in order to do so, we need to learn from the past, if it is an animal spillover, how do we prevent contact with this, and control it better? focusing on wet markets,
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wildlife trade, animal to human transmissions, and studies to understand it better. if this is a lab leak, it has critically important implications for how we move forward working with laboratories globally. should there be some sort of a global body that will be monitoring laboratories to make sure that we don't see these kinds of lab leaks? you have heard many scientists say, this happens regularly. there are lab accidents that happen regularly. not necessarily serious ones, but lab accidents. that's why in the united states, we have such strong regulations when it comes to working in laboratories. very important, we need to be able to prevent pandemics before they start. that's why we need to do what dr. hotez suggests in investigating the origins. >> you bring up the fact that there are lab accidents. they do happen. but if they were to find the origin were to be this wuhan
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lab, that would be next level, right? it has set off a global pandemic where so many people have died. so many families altered. the reality of that versus what we had thought was initially the origins when this pandemic first began would completely change the narrative in this country and in this world. >> you played a clip earlier that said, we need to understand the origins, but as a point of understanding what happened, not out of blame, not out of trying to penalize somebody. we just need to understand what happened so we can prevent it in the future. and science is constantly evolving. we're constantly updating our assumptions that we base the work we do on.
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if we learn something new, we incorporate it and move forward. >> and the new variant in vietnam, they say it's a combination of variants, it seems as if it's more transmissible, they're blaming the recent surge on this new variant. how concerned are you about this, and what science do we have to back up the claim that the vaccines that we have gotten will protect against variants like this one? >> this is a really important question. so what we're seeing in vietnam is an indication that we have a more contagious variant circulating. how did they figure this out? they've been doing surveillance and sequencing. that's critical. we know that if we have the virus circulating, it's going to mutate. we can expect to see more variants. they're becoming more and more transmissible over time. that's an important trend to monitor. that really just makes the case that we really need to
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understand what is going on globally. we need good surveillance. as the w.h.o. said, this is not the time to let up. we need to be able to continue. there is a global pandemic, and an infection anywhere is an infection potentially everywhere. we should all know this by now. this is just another point of data, and an important point to remind everybody, this virus is spreading rapidly, globally, still. we're feeling better in the united states right now, but we have a long way to go. it's not time to loosen up and relax, because there's a long way to go. >> doctor, thank you, as always. great to talk to you on this memorial day. israel's longest serving prime minister is facing a threat to oust him amid allegations of fraud and corruption. we're live in tel aviv after the break.
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hanging by a threat. with israel facing its fifth election in two years' time, and netanyahu on trial for alleged fraud, a coalition says it has the votes to finally oust him. thank you both for joining us. kelly, i spoke to you yesterday. it was stunning as the news broke, it is still stunning today. the possibility of a change in government in israel. some folks saying this could be netanyahu's final days in office, others saying he could still pull through. what is the word on the ground there. >> reporter: one person saying we have a lot of obstacles to
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get through to form a government with this diverse group of politicians and parties. the complete political spectrum is here, some very unlikely bedfellows, trying to iron out a power sharing agreement. the idea now that from what we understand is that this would be a power sharing agreement with naftali bennett in the premiership for the first two years, then switching to a centrist party leader, who got the second most votes in the last election. but all of these things still need to be hashed out. it's not an easy negotiation. and they have until midnight on wednesday to do it.
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all it takes is a politician to pull out or hold out for a particular position for this to all come crumbling down. so, yes, absolutely, netanyahu could still pull a rabbit out of a hat. >> i want to hear your predictions on this, and then i want to get into the nitty-gritty on how this could change israel policy. so first up, what do you expect to happen here, given just two days' time left? >> although it's always dangerous to make predictions about israeli politics, i think it looks like it's going to be netanyahu's last week in politics. i think he's out of tricks. he's been making all sorts of promises, but he has no credibility left with any of the politicians. he has no possibility of forming a government. it's either this government or a
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fifth election. so the desire to avoid a fifth election and to get netanyahu out of office will be ultimately enough to force the kinds of compromises necessary to reach an agreement and to ultimately get the support of the knesset. this looks like the end, but a few weeks ago war broke out with hamas. so anything can happen. >> and as we were watching the war break out with hamas, we knew that kind of conflict was good for netanyahu's leadership, but since the cease-fire, this has all happened. what happened on the ground to make this change? >> really, the electoral politics didn't change. the fact is, netanyahu could not put together a coalition
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government. that didn't change as a result of the conflict with hamas. the far right was simply unwilling to allow a party to join the coalition, and they were essential for netanyahu to be able to form a government. so really, he didn't have the numbers. it was more a question of bennett wanting to demonstrate to right-wing voters he gave netanyahu a chance to form a government. then it was ultimately a question of deciding, am i going to go to a fifth election, or join and create an alternative government? i think it was his preference all along, but he was biding his time. >> what could this mean for palestinians? >> sadly, very little. i don't think there will be any significant change in israel's
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policy towards the palestinians. in fact, the security cabinet formed will be even more right-wing. that said, i don't think this government will make any major initiatives like annexing the west bank. settlement building will continue, israel's policy will likely continue towards hamas and the gaza strip, as well as towards the palestinian authority. i think little will change for palestinians, but this is good news for israelis, i think at least the political atmosphere in the country, which has been so toxic and divisive, will improve with a new national unity government. >> with that, kelly, what are israelis on the ground saying to you about this possible change? >> well, i think it's -- i think
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it's as your other guest just said, there is a huge amount of frustration built up over the past couple of years with these four elections in two years. the possibility of a fifth election just isn't on anyone's radar. people don't want it here. the people we've spoken to. and even people who are on the fence about netanyahu, saying he's done some good things, they're saying he's been in power too long. it's time for a change. that's what we're hearing over and over again. we'd like to see a change, he's been in power too long. >> kelly, dov, thank you. we appreciate it. we're live in tulsa as the city marks the 100-year legacy of the massacre. a painful legacy they're still struggling with. we'll be right back. ith.
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tulsa massacre. may 31st, 1921, white mobs stormed the neighborhood known as black wall street. tonight, a century later, the greenwood community will hold a candlelight vigil, and president biden will head to tulsa tomorrow to meet with three living survivors of the attack. joining me new, tremaine lee. your coverage has been excellent, your documentary, incredible, last night. what is one of the things that surprised you the most with some of the folks that you've been speaking to? >> reporter: thank you for having me again. one of the things that surprised me most about tulsa and reckoning with the past, just how complicit all the forces have been about blurring the story. all the evidence that disappeared from the police department, from the library.
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folks didn't talk about this. it was part of a coordinated effort. and the black community, the descendents of the survivors, who didn't want to talk about it because of the nature of the trauma. and many in the community didn't hear about it or intentionally buried it. that level of complicity was surprising. i met a guy in a diner in oklahoma, he said he never heard about it. he said, i grew up in tulsa, there was a state law where you had to learn about state history, and he never heard about it. that's surprising. >> not to that level, but what is happening now in this country, when it comes to police brutality, we've spoken about this a lot on air. and getting bills passed in washington, based off of the george floyd killing last year,
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are folks relating what is happening now to what happened then, the complicity in it all, the targeting, on a different scale, of course. >> reporter: without question. part of it is, take a big step back, and say, how can america heal and repair? people say reparations. so far, look at evanston, illinois. you try to find a community that has experienced a specific kind of injury, and they show the government was complicit. in oklahoma, white citizens were deputized by police, and they were bombed from the sky. and these weren't just one-offs, black folk were targeted with violence, and redlining, and when you connect the violence of 1921, a lot of people can see the clear connection to the state violence of george floyd
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in 2020. right? so it's certainly chiming in to the bigger conversation, and i think it's lining the pieces up. >> what do folks want to hear from the president tomorrow? >> reporter: you know, i think part of it is, last time the former president was invited, it was seen as an insult, a smack in the face. this time, with a president who said he wants to center equity and justice, i think people want to see him there. and that he wants to see america heal. and such a big part of the story is acknowledging that it happened and the pain, and we believe now. we understand, let's try to move the ball forward. i think they want the president to stand with them and acknowledge the past. and possibly present a way to move forward. >> thank you so much for your excellent coverage. appreciate it. this memorial day, we're taking a look at a new effort to identify the remains of our nation's fallen military heroes
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to provide closure for families. it led to a funeral for a service member who died 80 years ago at pearl harbor. >> reporter: even as a young man, eddie griffith wanted to serve. >> he graduated with honors at school. and he knew right away, he was going to enlist in the military. >> reporter: he became a navy radioman. then came the attack on pearl harbor. the oklahoma was hit by japanese torpedos. it quickly capsized, killing 429 sailors and marines onboard, including eddie. for years, the military could only identify 35 of the men. the others, nearly 400 of them,
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were buried at a military cemetery in honolulu. but in 2015, the agency charged with finding and identifying missing service members disinterred the remains. >> we sorted through, doing analysis. today, we're up to 336 sailors and marines that are now back with their families. >> reporter: using dna samples from relatives and comparing dental records, they can spend years identifying one sailor from the oklahoma. >> it just depends on the type of dna we need to use. >> reporter: now, the 80th anniversary of the attack on pearl harbor may mark the end of the uss oklahoma project. >> by the end of the summer, we will have done as much as we can. >> reporter: but the dpaa
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mission is far from over. >> we estimate 38,000 americans to be recoverable, predominantly from world war ii. >> reporter: men and women gone, but not forgotten. on this memorial day, eddie's sister hopes the country remembers his sacrifice. >> he always said that if the flag is not what he's fighting for, it's not worth living under. i remember that. >> reporter: now a rosette on the wall signifies eddie griffith has been identified. closure for his family, finally able to bring eddie home. >> thank you to courtney for that. up next, america marks memorial day like it's 2019 again. it's coming back to you now...
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highest numbers of passengers sense the pandemic began. millions more hit the roads. joining me now cal perry in maryland at a busiest travel plaza and nbc news correspondent allison barbara at the southern rim of the grand canyon. tell us what you're hearing from visitors there and why rv camping is so appealing right now. >> reporter: yeah. so we have heard from a lot of a campers who said that they didn't get into rv'g or consider using an rv until the pandemic hit. but they say because of the pandemic something like this is now very appealing to them. i'm going to take my own little camera cell phone inside. this is the rv that we have been moving around with. you can see not a very big guy but there's tons of storage up here. we have a sink. a stove.
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a microwave with my producer's leftover breakfast burrito. a nice little shower, bathroom combo and two beds that push together why not a huge rv why a little guy but it has everything you would need to stay overnight and if you're nervous about taking an airplane or staying overnight in a hotel why this might be appealing. it is easy to see why people like this and really getting into it this year. >> i think with covid, you kind of just needed an escape and to be safe. >> wears masks a long time and wanting to be out and about and see god's creation. >> that's right. >> we have been able to go out. have our own space. feel somewhat safe out in nature
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with our own accommodations. >> reporter: i talked to the ceo of rv share. the biggest rv group across this country. he said that they have just seen the demand for rv rentals skyrocket since the pandemic began and no signs of slowing down. he says right now demand is six times higher than it was pre-pandemic. yaz min? >> cal spent his summer in an rv last year. cal, i don't know who you angered but under just say sorry. you have allison looking at the grand canyon and you are on the side of the highway counting cars. >> reporter: what's weird is pulling the curtain back, we have the same bosses. we all answer to the same people yet here i am. i'm sorry. >> no, no. please talk to us about the traffic that you are seeing on
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the side of the highway. in all seriousness, gas prices are rising but folks are still getting out there. >> reporter: yeah look. this is the busiest travel center. in talking to the people that run this plaza they say they see a 30% increase every week as we approach the summer and gas prices about $1.08 more on average across the country than a year ago. 16 cents more here in maryland. in talking to people they say they're happy to be out. happy to be seeing family members, friends, to be out. that seems to be the big thing on people's minds. i spoke to brian kelly about the gas issue. not just the prices but the supply. >> that's like we see in the gas supplies it is not just both colonial pipeline but not enough qualified truckers back out and able to fulfill the demand for
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gas and the same for the car rental agencies and with hotels and house keeping. they simply cannot get enough workers to do the job so the travel industry went from 0 to 100 and it is struggling to keep up. >> reporter: the other thing new this year is work week is different. people don't have to be in an office and extend the vacation. we met people that extended, moved the trip into the week. expect to see the numbers continue at a high level throughout the week. >> allison and cal, thank you both. appreciate it. that does it for me today. chris jansing picks up our coverage next.
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