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massacre. a white mob killed a thriving black community. they said that two of the last living survivors and to make a new push to try to narrow the racial wealth divide in the country. a vote other voting rights governor greg abbot threatening to cut off paychecks if they keep blocking a voting restrictions bill. so what happens next? i'm hallie jackson. shannon pettypiece is outside of the white house. antonia, you're there in tulsa. talk to us about what's happening where you are. what is happening at oak lawn
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cemetery which i think is behind you. >> we're going to see researchers and archaeologists go to a back corner and begin a highly amendmented archaeological dig where they're going to excavate human remains they believe may be victims of the 1921 race massacre. they're going to bring the bodies up to study and identify and potentially connect them to family members. so what that looks like is bringing heavy machinery, a backhoe that is already on site, bring it on to the grounds, remove siel and move close to the coffins they already found. then you will see them get down in there with small tools, brushes, and start the painstaking and careful process of unearthing bodies for discovery.
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>> our best case scenario is if we can learn who these individuals are. we will take dna samplings in the hopes of being able to employ that technique. even if we're unsuccessful in that effort, there is many things that you can learn. >> descendents here in tulsa see this excavation as part of the healing and esty constitution process that has been talked about so much this historic weekend. they want these art facts and the potential unidentified bodies. there will be some descendents and some community members here that observe and they'll be part of a critical decision making process. do we rebury the bodies? is there a ceremony? and the art facts that might be with those people do we put them
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a museum or give them back to the families that may be connected. that could take months and years, but the community will always be involved. >> an emotional moment, i know, for you and nerve that community there in tulsa, thank you. shannon, you have the president leaving for tulsa in the next hour, drawing attention by his attendance. putting that spotlight too on the racial wealth gap and the plan that he is looking at this morning. >> this initiative from the executive branch level, there are issues that come to some plans for things like looking at discrimination in the home appraisal process. they're going to expand their number of contracts that they
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give to small disadvantaged businesses and another step they plan to take is rolling back two trump era housing rules. you noted this is the first presidential visit to mark this somber day. it was about a year ago that president trump informs tulsa, a much different event in that tulsa rally that was indoors. very low attendance, it became very controversial. you can see a year apart, two very difficult visits and moods around them. >> let's talk about that messages. we spoke with viola fletcher, one of a few living survivors. i want to play for you what she remembers witnessing and seeing when she was just seven. >> people running and screaming
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and moist from the air like an airplane. and just so many things that were disturbing. firing burning, smelling smoke, i kind of have a feeling it's time to run. no telling what might happen. >> even today you that nervous feeling? >> oh, yes, sure. that's something i have been thinking about for the last 100 years. >> i mean that -- that she lives with that, that and the first president to visit and participate in the remembrances here. >> it was put on my survivors and descendants. i was with the doctor who is not
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only the twin sister of a victim of police violence is a descendant herself. when we talk about what is tight it has to be more than a visit. we have to see him spending time, but pushing to ensure that real commitments are made. yes i'm talking about programs to address the racial wealth gap. as you said there was 300 people dead. there is also 10,000 people displaced along those 300 and 400 black people murdered. there was the theft of generational wealth. that wealth could have built services and institutions for the black community that
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recycling of the dollar within a black community allows for the creation of political power and social influence. when that was stolen all of that influence, and that welts, went directly to the white people guilty of this massacre. this is literal. there need to be literal dollars put into the pockets of the people that suffered from this. it's unfortunately not rare what we saw happen. it happened all across the country. the reparations for these massacres, for the sin of enslavement, are real, owed, and the debt needs to be paid. >> is it fair to say that you feel like to is a good first
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step but not enough. >> certainly, i think these policies are expanded across the entire country and are real and felt for all people. but as you said, it has to only be just the beginning. the material losses that generations of black families suffered are not abstract, they're literal, real, and felt. that racial wealth gap comes from some place. years of redlines, years of massacres and the money that needs to be put into the pockets of people is frankly only the beginning. the agency and self determination that was lost, also is due and owed to be rebuilt in is absolutely the beginning. and i heard some people in tulsa say that a million dollars per
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survivor, or $50 million per survivor or their descendants is too much. america is too used to black folks not asking for everything that we're owed and i'm appalled and offended at the idea that the commission would raise $30 million and none of that would go to the people that suffered the most. >> i want to bring in monroe nickels who will meet with president biden later this afternoon. good morning, thank you for being here. >> what does president biden's visit mean to you? >> it means a significant mamt. watching the presidential race, talking about charlottesberg,
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white supremacy. joe biden is uniquely set up to come to tulsa today to meet with survivors, talk about what is owed, and really begin the long conversation that we need about race and accountability. that is something we have not done yet. >> talk about the steps that the president is taking to try to narrow the racial wealth gap. where are you on this? >> absolutely. i think it is a great first step, but a first step. britney mentioned reparations. i think as we talk about student loan debt and those things, those are all really important. i think this is an and
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conversation, not an ore conversation. i'm not sure if everything is right in the country, but i hope what the president talks about today, i'm hoping the conversation that we have, how do we make it more just. make it just and then we can start to move forward as a country. unless that justice happens, we have been talking about it for a very, very long time. i'm not sure if we can move forward that way. but i think the spth uniquely set up. >> you're going to have an opportunity to talk with the president today or meet with him, will you raise the issue of, for example, reparations to him. >> the message is that what we have for a long time understood as the inen equity in this country. we talk about black wealth and white wealth. we know the system is fundamentally flawed. it's not just through the
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american rescue plan. not just through what he will announce today, but how will he change systems in this country to ensure that this is equitable. i think that is the challenge and the opportunity. i think it goes to what so many of us talked about and that is making it a just country and changing the systems that for so long held us back. >> state representative monroe nickels, thank you for your time on a busy and important day for you. coming up, live to texas with how the governor is threatening to retaliate against direct state lawmakers. we're talking with one of them on where this battle over voting rights goes next. plus, former president trump back in some headlines. kicking off a summer of revenge rallies. who he is targeting and what is his message. s targeting and wha his message. voltaren is the first full prescription strength gel,
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tell us what this decision, what this refusal means and what implications are. >> it means clear sailing for some of the other cases. here is what was at issue. the women that sued johnson and johnson said the use of johnson baby powder and shower to shower shimmer caused cancer. they came together in missouri state court and prevailed. and they reduced the damages to 2.1 billion. johnson and johnson appealed. the issue for the supreme court was not the main event of the case which was did these products actually cause cancer. johnson and johnson inn cysts that the answer is no. the question for the supreme court was should j&j be heard on the case that they did not get a
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fair trial. some had family predispositions to cancer. johnson and johnson said by lumping them together they were deprived of a fair trial. and there is some dispute about whether or not you can and should do that. the missouri court said there wasnology wrong with it and the supreme court is not going to take the case. why does this claim for cancer arise with these talc products. talc is a mineral in the ground. it is mined and chemically similar to asbestos. it is a known production problem to keep asbestos out of these talc products. j and j says they have successfully done it but they don't sell the products based on talcum anywhere. >> thank you. we'll see you soon.
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governor greg abbot firing back after they blocked a really restrictive voting rights by just before a deadline to pass it. the governor is now threatening to basically veto the state. budgets funding. he is tweeting no pay for those that abandon their stonlts. he is saying the fight for this is not over yet and he is potentially adding it to a special session. it is putting in place voting restrictions across the country with 48 states seeing bills just this year alone. democrats refuse to back down from that fight in texas. that might be a rallying cry for some of the efforts on push back and other states. morgan is in dallas this morning. what would it mean if the governor actually did veto that part of the state budget and how
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is a special session potentially going to playout. >> serious implications here. they refuse to take the current case and you mention that special session. he will call that date, it has yet to be announced. they face the same fight when that is announced as they did in the past week when they had that dramatic walk out that took place over the weekend. that is only the fourth time that has been used to stall a bill in the texas state history. democrats making it clear they're willing to go to the mat to fight to keep this from going through yet again. but you mentioned that threat from governor greg abbot saying he would veto the funding and that would mean that not only would lawmakers not ged paid, but it would also defund some legislative agencies. most notably the legislative budget fwhoord is tasked with developing policy recommendations and looking at
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the fiscal impact of legislation going forward. that would essentially not be happening if he ended up going through with this. that budget would not go into event or be taken away until september 1st. all eyes looking at them saying they have tom come up with some ways to deal with this current compromise. >> morgan, great to see you. thank you for that reporting. let's stick in texas and bring in gina, a democrat that helped organize sunday's walkout. thank you for being with us. >> let me start with your reaction to the governor's threat now to basically veto part of the state budget. you won't get paid and lawmakers won't get paid because this is being blocked. >> it's nonsense, we're used to nonsense coming from our
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governor. he cannot veto our pay, our minimal pay. again, we don't make a salary, we're mostly volunteers. we get paid under $10,000 a year, but article 34 provides for legislation pay and per diem. so the governor is basically threatening us with something that is unconstitutional. so if he takes that route we'll see him in court. >> what is your best option at that point? because democrats have exhausted many options so far. is that buying time for something to be done at the national level? what's the strategy? >> two things, one, this legislation was brought before our body with 23 pages added in the 11th hour, not fully vetted. our republican lawmakers admit
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that things were added in that they never intended. it was sloppy work at minimum. it was intentionally discriminatory from the looks of it. it banned souls to the polls by prohibiting sunday morning voting hours, and we needed an opportunity to fully vet them. so if go to a special session but he could please pass house resolution one, the john lewis voting rights act so we don't have to keep fighting these fights. >> one of your reps told the washington post, and we thought it was important to the issue, breaking quorum is about the equivalent of crawling on our
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knees asking for them to give thus voting rights act. have national leaders here in dc failed you? >> well, they have failed to act, yes. we need them to act. we're doing everything that we can as the minority party in texas to use the tools that we have to protect citizens voting rights and congress can act. they have the majority and they can make it happen in a way that francely we can only put out so long. >> thank you for being with us this morning. and for talking with us about these new developments. moderna asking for a full vaccine approval this weekend. what it means for you. what's the outlook for the rest
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approval. up until now johnson and johnson, pfizer, moderna have had emergency authorization. it is temporary in times of an emergency like a pandemic. two months of data after the second shot on patients. so they're getting that data and they're going to submit it on a rolling basis. that's what happens when they apply for approval. they will sit down and look at the application. that could mean a few changes for them. they will be able to have commercials. they can advertise it, they can get it into doctor's offices, and perhaps most significantly entities with the military once it gets full approval will be able to mandate it instead of recommend it. i think that will be a big change in a big paradigm shift
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in their way of thinking. once it gets approval i think people will have more confidence in it. >> dr. john, thank you for that, i appreciate your time. as we talked about, and as dr. torres mentioned, millions of americans getting back to some kind of normal which means more competition for flights, rental cars, travel spots. numbers getting back to numbers that we have not seen since before the pandemic. tsa workers screening six times more people and they are feeling the crunch. there is also some staffing shortages. megan fitzgerald is at la guardia in new york city. what are the take aways this weekend for people working on their summer travel plans? what should we know for the next set of holidays or days off? >> hallie, this last holiday we all talked about how it felt
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like normal. folks are going into the summer months and they can expect normal to be at the airport. long lines at the tsa and travel congestion and traffic trying to get there. look at the numbers in the last five days. more than seven million people passing through these checkpoints in the last five days. that has been a record since the start of the pandemic. you have world no mad suggesting that 66% of americans will be booking travel this summer. and just a third of those folks already nailing it down. so, you know, when you talk about going back to the airport, resuming back to normal, this is what you can expect. a busy airport and folks trying to get where they need to go. so the tsa says they know this is coming. they're working on trying to up their staffing. they're saying that by labor day they want to bring on an
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come up with a clear direction for a deal or democrats might go it alone. if it deal will happen it will come down to this woman on your screen. it will come down to this woman, she will meet with the president tomorrow as negotiations, you know, i don't nope maybe hit their final stretch. that may overstate the framing of it. let's get a reality check with leann caldwell. you and i have discussed many times about how folks on the hill feel about deadlines. what needs to change? who needs to come out from under the table to break this log jam. >> let's start with shelly, a lead negotiator for republicans on this infrastructure deal with the white house. now thee is set to go to the white house to hold another meeting with president biden.
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they're very far apart as you real know. the white house proposal came down to 1.7 trillion. the latest prm is moving forward on some of those issues. they can't agree on the definition of infrastructure and they can't agree on how to pay for this. so we're going to be watching what shelly says coming out of that meeting. but meanwhile, hallie while they're out of session this week and back in their ohm districts they're starting to lay the groundwork for moving just on their own, the key house committee plans to mark up their transportation bill next week. senate majority leader chuck
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schumer said when the senate comes back next week they're going to start doing a lot of work in the committee process into it is just all of these little components that are happening. we're watching the main event of republicans and the white house. we'll see if they can come together to some sort of agreement. democrats are prepared to move alone if they need to. >> leann, thank you. elsewhere in the world of politics, get ready because he is getting back where he loves to be. former president trump hitting the road this weekend. the kick off for a summer tour to not only rally his republican base ahead of the mid-terms but to continue to sell his lies about the 2020 election ahead of 2024. john allen is here with his new reporting. jonathan, great to see you good morning my friend. >> good morning, hallie. you say that defeated presidents usually go away for awhile, not
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this one. kind of a revenge tour. kind of a sales pitch on election lies, if you will, what's going on? >> looking black to grover cleveland, going that far back in history. skimming jimmy carter and george h.w. i think he loves to rally. b he was to the be in the strongest position he can to maintain his hold on the republican party to try to help republicans and particularly pro-trump republicans in the midterms. this will be a real tension point. the republicans think it is a bad idea to go down the path of electing jody heist. there are a lot of reasons for trump to be doing this and obviously he has a lot on his hands at the moment as well as legal jeopardy as well. >> i know you spoke with a
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former trump operative who told you this about the former president's prospects as he looks ahead to 2024. this person said the former president could win the primary on his name alone. the problem is building a coalition of people among independents. he would have to change and ask forgiveness. i don't know who your sources are, but anyone that knows donald trump knows he is not going to change or ask for for giveness. what will that do to the rest of the field? they are widely believed to be planning a run in 2024 and not to mention mike pence. >> i'm trying to think of the polite way to say this on national television. it screws them. it is a degree to which donald trump trying to have his hold on
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a coup really nags at voters i think. it is one of the reasons that trump alienating so many moderate and suburban republicans. they seem to continue to be standing away from him. they fear that his view of the country is not that it needs a republic, but that he needs to be in charge of it. >> thank you, appreciate you sharing your reporting with us. >> coming up, what is next for naomi osaka. one of the top athletes deciding to put her mental health first. we'll talk about it after the break. e break. but they can't be held back. they want to be set free. to make the world more responsible, and even more incredible.
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♪ you wanna go where people know ♪ welcome back, america. it sure is good to see you. the cruel irony of all of this is that naomi wanted to be low profile at this tournament. instead she's the biggest story. >> that was nbc sports analyst mary carillo on "today" after naomi osaka, the highest paid athlete in the world is dropping out of the french open saying she needs to prioritize her mental health. officials threatened to suspend her and fined her $15,000 over her decision not to do media interviews so she could focus on the game. joining us now sportswriter, sports and culture writer for "the athletic," thank you for being on the show with us.
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>> thank you for having me. >> i have to ask, and i don't know how you can answer this, how tone deaf is the french tennis federation here? >> i would say pretty tone deaf, frankly. i don't know who loses first, the fans, the media, the french tennis federation, roland garros is losing out on this, and the fact of the matter is we're without one of the best players in the world, a multinational generational talent in probably the third most important tournament of the season. that's where we stand right now. >> is that not concerning? let me say the french tennis federation president put out a statement saying we remain committed to all athletes' well-being. did not take questions from the press. >> did not take questions. >> what message does this send, that you have this young woman who is at the height of her career, saying my mental health is more important than this, and this sort of backlash that she
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faces here? >> i think it's indicative of what the media appearances are meant to do. and i should say that there are so many of us who love the support, who cover the sport, who are trying to ask the right question and tell the stories in a journalistic, ethical way, but at the same time we have seen the way some of these press conferences get derailed. if naomi osaka is telling us she doesn't want to do these interviews so she can be the best on the court, which is her primary job, frankly, i think we have to listen to her instead of piling on to what is already obviously an extremely emotionally fraught situation. >> and there's a mental health message here. naomi osaka is a young woman of color who started being vocal during the black lives matter movement, such an incredible
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player in the sport. if you can even speculate on this, what is the potential precedent for her to say, listen, i'm going to step away? i need to do this for my own mental health. that backlash the french tennis federation is going to be facing here. how does this play out? next year, next summer, and so on? >> it's interesting to see how other athletes have responded here, tennis players and from outside -- and from outside the sport, showing a lot of solidarity with what she's trying to do. there's no reason not to take naomi osaka at her word when she said she was doing this for her own mental health. she won her first-round match and did take questions on the court, so she wasn't averse to doing all media, but she basically said this was the boundary she was trying to set for herself. that does make our jobs more difficult as journalists, but at the same time i don't think any athlete owes us their time. so the precedent this can set will be very interesting to see. there's also a value judgment
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that every athlete, every subject, no matter what you're covering in journalism, has to make which is is it worth it for me to talk to this reporter? do i think this reporter is coming at me in good faith? if athletes are deciding that's not the case, that's something we have to reckon with as an industry. >> kavitha davidson, thank you for your perspective on this big story in the world of sports and beyond. appreciate it. coming up on the show yet another cyber attack, this time on this company, the world's biggest meat supplier. what it could mean for your next trip to the grocery store and why it's happening again. that's coming up next. and in our next hour craig melvin speaking with somebody whose great-grandfather survived the tulsa race massacre but his business did not. what it looks like now a century later. ah, honey! isn't that the dog's towel? hey, me towel su towel.
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biggest meat supplier, a company called jbs. it's happening just weeks after the attack on the colonial pipeline. i want to bring in jake ward. jake, explain what happened here, what we're hearing from the company. what kind of affect might this have? could we see something similar when it comes to meat that we buy given this? >> reporter: it is an amazing thing to see this, not even a month after the colonial pipeline hack. in this case we're talking about, of course, a very different process, a very different product. jbs usa meat, as you said, the largest meat processor in the world. they own companies all over the globe and supply many specific brands here in the united states. now in this particular case the company put out a statement that says the company is not aware of any evidence at this time that any customer, supplier, or employee data has been compromised or misused as a
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result of the situation. resolution of the incident will take time. privacy is not what we're concerned. it is the supply chain. it is actually getting meat into the hands of consumers. and in this particular case we don't know exactly is this a ransomware attack, the meat processing industry is a digitized industry. you require bar codes at every step of the way from the whole cow down to the individual pieces you and i buy at the grocery store in order to keep track of where they're going. that may be part of why this has been shut down. this follows a trend. since may of 2020 there have been more than 40 attacks on food and beverage processed systems, companies that do this kind of thing. and this comes, as we've seen a rise in prices of almost all groceries, prices of beef go up about 5% this year. of course we saw gas go up. the important thing i think to
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leave here, hallie, we saw the shortages in the southeast, that wasn't because the pipeline was hacked. it was because people panicked and they bought more than they needed. that shut down supply even outside of the hack itself. and so in this case important to remind people not to panic buy. that's going to make the problem worse. >> thanks for being on the story. we'll look for updates throughout the day. thank you for watching. we have our own good-bye and thank you to share with you about somebody you never see. she is behind the scenes but leads the show every day, casey dolan, who is such a rock star, that she has been promoted to oversee all of msnbc reports. she's create add culture on the where everyone has a voice. the zoom happy hours were never boring. she's been a partner to me
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