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happening in washington. you can't even agree or joke anymore. you can't convert. >> and law students don't want to go to the senate and investigate an insurrection. you don't hold somebody's degree for them saying something and you want to investigate that but people stormed the capitol, threatened the vice president and tried to stop the elections -- >> by the way, josh hawley graduated from stanford law school. a guy that you hear talking about basically the government banning what private corporations do. i don't like facebook but i'm a conservative. you don't want conservatives, the government going in and saying what facebook can and can't do. now break them up into little pieces? >> more tomorrow. >> more tomorrow morning. >> stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now.
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hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is thursday, june 3rd, and there is a lot going on. just as the country is opening back up and things seem to be getting better, a new wave of cyberattacks is making things a whole lot worse and more expensive. cyber criminals are now targeting everything from food to ferries. you already know about the attack on jbs, the world's biggest meat supplier, just now getting back up and running, but they're not alone. a new ransomware attack on a ferry service off the coast of massachusetts is impacting its service as we speak. we just learned new york's mta was hit by chinese hackers back in april. and the health care system out in san diego said it may have lost thousands of patients' information in an attack that took place last month. and even schools have been hit. like the district outside tacoma, washington, still dealing with an attack that
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started over a week ago. just this morning nbc obtained a new memo sent directly from the white house to business leaders across the nation. it warns that, quote, ransomware attacks have disrupted organizations around the world s. the threats are serious and they are increasing. the u.s. government is working with countries around the world to hold ransomware actors and countries who harbor them accountable. i want to bring in jake ward from san francisco and chief white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, here's the thing, foreign adversaries, they do not launch physical military attacks against the u.s. because they know our government will come after them. but they launch attacks like this because seemingly, they can do it. this isn't about what are businesses going to do, it's about what is the government going to do? >> yeah, steph, you're exactly right. this re-emphasizes the vulnerabilities that exist across this country right now, the letter that you showed, rare
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open letter from the white house to corporate leaders to companies around this country effectively trying to get them to take more seriously this latest rash of ransomware attacks. it notes the number in size increased significantly on this issue recently, and it's saying companies need to do a better job of addressing this and gives them ways to go about doing that. among other things, companies need to view ransomware as a bigger threat to them than just a data breach would be for those companies. one cyber analyst saying this could cost $6 trillion globally these ransomware attacks. they hit all sorts of industries -- government, manufacturing, retail and beyond. jen psaki was asked about this yesterday. i pressed her specifically if the president thought vladimir putin had a responsibility and could stop these attacks from happening. you will remember the fbi just yesterday blamed russian signer criminal cyber criminal gangs
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for this attack. psaki said they do believe the government there has a bigger role. and here's what the said when he was pressed on this issue as well -- >> mr. president, will you retaliate against russia for this ransomware attack? do you think putin is testing you? >> no. >> that question is relevant, of course, because this is one of the issues the white house said the president will raise with president trump when the two men meet in geneva, switzerland, june 16th. according to the top cybersecurity official ann knewburg, who wrote the memo, she said no company is save, regardless of size or location. steph? >> people hear about these kinds of attacks when they disrupt their lives, something huge like colonial pipeline, meat supply. but literally they're having every single day in all sorts of
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enterprises, businesses and schools. >> that's absolutely right, stephanie. i'm standing here in san francisco but i can be standing in any city across america or across the world and i can probably point at a building and have it talk about ransomware in some ways. . let me give you an example, behind me is ucf, a premiere medical research hospital in the country. they were hit almost exactly a year ago by a ransomware attack and ended up paying a little more than a million dollars to release medical data on their service she required. stephanie, i just want to draw your attention to all of the different neighborhood institutions here that have been touched in some way. from where i am standing currently, if i walk just a block that way, right, i can hit any number of students and bars that serve the products of molson coors, which was hit earlier this year. if i go to a bar and order a
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campari, that company was hit in 2019. if i walk 50 yards that way, i can get on the sf muni, transit system for the city. they were hit in 2016 and at the time paid $73,000 to release their data. in that case the system had to open all of the fares, make it free for a day, just to keep the system going. if you look across all of the variety of institutions that have been hit, museums, hospitality, hospitals, all of it, you can think there about how complicated what peter is describing is going to be, not just intrastate between russia and the united states, that kind of negotiation, but getting all of these institutions to feed information in through, for instance, fbi field offices, which the white house memo mentions, being able to coordinate all of this as a response so we can learn from one another, protect one another, figure out what the
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choreography is. all of that is the new era we're facing, stephanie. >> yes, businesses have to handle this. this is a whole new era. most likely they can cover the costs with their insurance policies. what this is is an issue for governments around the world, cyber warfare is the war that's the biggest threat to us right now. peter and jake, thank you both so much. now we need to turn to breaking news out of israel where prime minister benjamin netanyahu may or may not be out of a job. bottom line, if you thought our electoral college system was confusing, wait until you hear what's going on in israel. nbc's kelly cobiella is in tel aviv with a daunting task of explaining it to us. as i understand it, it's not a done deal yet. you have a coalition. they're trying to push him out. can you explain? >> yeah, this is parliamentary politics, stephanie. let me try to just bray it down for you here. the coalition is made up of members of parliament, lawmakers. there are 61 lawmakers in this
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coalition from all of these different parties. they're coming together, they're saying we want a government. but in order to confirm that they can have this government, they have to take their government to the parliament and have a vote. there are 120 members in the israeli parliament. they have 61. the likelihood is that their vote is going to pass as long as this coalition stays in place. they keep all 61 members on side. now, if it doesn't pass and the vote is likely to happen in about a week, if it doesn't pass, that triggers a whole other process, 21 days for anyone in parliament to form a government. if they still can't form a government, that automatically triggers an election. we're looking at a vote in parliament in about 7 to 11 days, plus or minus, at which time, we think, the coalition will be confirmed.
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stephanie? >> this is barely even about politics or policy, because this coalition involves people that have essentially nothing in common except they want netanyahu out. is that enough to keep this thing from falling apart? >> that's the question everyone is asking here. some have said because of the sense of feeling and sentiment against netanyahu in the knesset and israeli parliament, yes, in fact, it is enough to keep this coalition together. but you're already seeing netanyahu putting pressure on some of these right wing politicians who have joined the coalitions that he's called in a tweet this morning said bennett had sold out to the arab parties. he's saying if you're a true right wing politician, you have to vote against this coalition when the vote comes up. so it is absolutely touch and
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go. there will be a lot of pressure on some of these politicians to jump ship by the time that shoate comes vote comes up next week. >> kelly, stay close. we have more to cover on that front. while here at home, president biden trying to keep the focus on his agenda and push big-ticket items like infrastructure. while a handful of republicans are seemingly negotiating, a huge chunk of the party is more focused on lies about election fraud and pushing efforts to restrict voting. i want to bring in nbc's national political reporter sahil kapur, political white house correspondent eugene daniels and mona perez, director of the brennan center's voting rights and elections programs. as we mentioned, sahil, you have some republicans negotiating and infrastructure but you have a huge portion of elected officials who are choosing to pretend that biden isn't even the legit president. how much does that complicate things for biden in any sort of
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negotiations? >> enormously, stephanie. how does president biden cut deal with republican lawmakers when many of his voters believe he's not even the legitimate president? they show more than half self-identified republicans nationally believe biden was not nationally elected. when they go home and look at their voters and what they believe, it makes it very hard for them to do that. that's one factor. the second is senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, he has a knack of unifying governments against signature initiatives against presidents. it worked well for him under president obama. he's using a version of that. that's another pressure that senators who want to cut deals have to face. this reminds me of the former speaker of the houston candidly talking about president obama never having a shot at cutting a deal with republicans because
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many of the speakers thought he was a kenyan traitor. and president biden is facing a similar problem, them saying he's not really elected. >> and so the capitol senate met with biden one on one, leading these meetings on infrastructure, and senator capito knows they will talk again on friday. they didn't come to any kind of conclusion. this back and forth has been going for a long time. it's interesting, i have been thinking about this a lot. many of us reporters have been saying, is the back and forth over? this is how negotiations work. it's just been a long time since we've seen this happen in washington, d.c. the so this back and forth seems pretty normal. so president biden told her he wants $1 trillion in new spending. that's a big difference from
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where republicans are, which is about $200 million -- or $200 billion in new spending, which is big big difference here. and also they said the pay for it, that is something republicans, capito and biden have not agreed on. president biden wants to stick to his guns on the corporate tax hike that was in the original plan. that is not what republicans want to do. they don't want to touch their signature 2017 tax cuts that happen. they're looking at user fees and repurposing the money already allocated from covid to pay for this and that's one of the biggest issues for democrats and republicans on that. >> eugene, whoever is calling you, do they not know you're on television now! i will let you answer that phone. how is your mother not watching? i like to think she watches every day. i don't want to say infrastructure not important, it's massively important.
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however, the fact voting rights are being threatened, many democrats are pushing the white house to put everything else aside and just focus on voting rights, while all of this is going on, you have 14 states who already passed new very restrictive laws in the last five months alone. >> certainly, we're in a serious and dangerous time of voter suppression. we had 14 states already enact more than 14 pieces of legislation that would make it harder for people to vote. we are seeing tactics that are more brazen, we are seeing bills that are bigger and broader. and we are seeing politicians not being embarrassed about what it is that they are trying to do, which is to put barriers in front of the ballot box instead of competing for voters. but we certainly are in a place where we need a strong federal response. we need two pieces of federal legislation, john lewis voting
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rights act and for the people act to count and provide guardrails for some of the recessions we are seeing in the states. and we're excited the vice president was given this important job of overseeing protection and voting rights and the passage of federal legislation for that. >> sahil, you mentioned a moment ago, mitch mcconnell has a knack for getting his party in line. democrats know if they're going to do anything with just 50 votes, they need both john manchin and krysten sinema to get rid of this. and that won't happen. >> i have long been a supporter of the filibuster because it's a tool that protects the democracy of our nation. to those who say we must make a choice between the filibuster and x, i say this is a false choice. the reality is when you have a system that's not working effectively, the way to fix that is to change your behavior, not to eliminate the rules or change the rules, but to change your
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behavior. >> sahil, what is her end goal? what do democrats do with that? >> it doesn't look like she's ready to move off her support for the filibuster, stephanie. in the near term that leaves democrats with the simple option of using this budget reconciliation option to bypass the filibuster. that can only be done, as you know, on policies of taxing and spending. that means president biden's $trillion dollar agenda can go through only if that remains in place. but beyond that, voting rights cannot get through unless it's abolished. no republican will play with s-1, also known as hr-1 and john lewis voting rights advancement act. the next step will be chuck schumer putting a number of bills on the floor including voting rights, equal pay for
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women and lgbtq rights. these are likely headed for a filibuster. what do democrats do then? if that moves sinema and manchin, they may have a path to weaken or abolish it. if those votes do not move them, this is probably over. i have new reporting here, more than 100 liberal advocacy groups will be going all out in the next couple of months. they believe it's now or never, before the august recess, so they're putting out a new leader to chuck schumer, democratic leader, quoting manchin's disillusionment with the blockade commission. they may not succeed but this looks like they will try. >> while all of this is happening, former president trump is still pushing the big lie. he's pushing to have more states beyond arizona conduct these audits. can you help us understand how is he system -- why is it that republicans believe he's still so influential? this man lost the white house, he lost the senate, he lost congress, and as of yesterday, his big social media presence, that blog ha his own adviser
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said would be revolutionary, he didn't need facebook and twitter, they've now shut that down. how exactly is this guy so powerful? >> it's because of the voters, his support. >> not enough of them got him elected. >> right. very, very true. but republicans are still worried about that, right? president trump, despite the former president trump, despite the fact that he lost in 2020 kind of across the board as the leader of the party, he holds that power because he's promised to go into these primaries to kind of pick off especially the people who voted to either impeach or convict him during his second impeachment trial. his promise to push his own candidates, make america great again candidates, america first candidates, people like marjorie taylor greene, people like matt gaetz in these primaries and that's what they're worried about. they're worried they're going to lose, because they know history is usually on their side, right? in 2022, it's most likely based on what we've seen in the past,
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republicans take the house at the very least. so they're worried about pissing president trump off, they lose the chance to get that house back. that is what they're focused on. kevin mccarthy really wants to be speaker of the house. that's why you see them capitulating and appeasing him, even on the worst instinct about lying about the election and democracy, because it started -- president trump started this before he was president. on the night of the iowa caucus, he said the only reason ted cruz won was because of voter fraud, right? this is something he's always done. now you have a republican doing exactly what he wants and that's following him all the way to the brink on this. >> sure, people follow history. you can follow the history of the last presidential election. you know what happened? president trump lost. former president trump, fair and square. thank you all so much. we're going to leave it there. coming up -- the biden administration now partnering with local businesses to get more americans vaccinated. we're going to take you to one
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resources to meet his goal of 70% of americans having at least one vaccine shot by the fourth of july. that includes some vaccination sites staying open 24 hours on fridays, as well as a whole new round of incentives. >> the nba, the nhl, nascar, nascar tracks, they're observing vaccines outside playoff games and in races. major league baseball, we offer free tickets to people to get vaccinated at the ballpark. and to top it off, anheuser-busch announced beer is on them july 4th. that's right, get a shot and have a beer. >> if you're over 21. president biden tapping vice president harris to lead a nationwide tour to reach millions of unvaccinated americans. she will be making stops in communities across the south, where vaccination rates remain low compared to the rest of the country. our team of reporter has the latest. let's start with blayne
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alexander down south in atlanta, georgia. blayne, you're at a barbershop. they are partnering with the administration how? >> yes, we're at a barbershop here in atlanta. if you come with me, i will show you the chairs inside. that's key. if you look inside during normal peak hours, all of these chairs are filled. tony tells me they can see about many as 400 customers in a given week. as we step outside, that is crucial because one of the topics they're talking about is the vaccine. that's what the biden administration is counting on, they're hoping to get people to discuss the vaccine and shops like tony's, partnering with about a barbershops and salons across the country. of course, the black community is proportionately hit harder by the pandemic. so why barbershops?
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these are national community gathering places, where the conversations happen. this is how tony described it. take a listen. >> for black people, this is our living room, our den. it's the place we come to discuss things. >> in addition to the question of hesitancy, steph, it's very important to bring up the real question of access as well. that's something the biden administration is also addressing by having free childcare partnering with day care centers to offer free childcare and have pharmacies stay open for extended hours. steph? >> i want to bring in shaquille brewster at a job fair in miami, florida. shaq, getting people back to work is a big part of this. businesses technically can require their employees to get vaccinated with a few exceptions. are some of the them offering perks to people to get vaccinated? >> oh, big perks, stephanie. first, let's talk about how many jobs are available here at the seminole hard rock hotel and casino. you're seeing about 500 jobs they're looking to fill. today the focus will be on about
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80 housekeeping jobs. this is south of miami, florida. and this hotel actually fought massive expansion just months before the start of this pandemic. while they have come back, the staffing hasn't. so we're talking about sign-on bonuses and free lunches and meals for employees who sign up. at a different job fair at a property in tampa just before the holidays, they were offering and raffling off a ford mustang. we heard from the vp of hr at that job fair, and they said they're struggling to fill these positions. that's why they're throwing out a lot of these perks. the a lot of people are blaming this. demand for employees on the jobless benefits, federal jobless benefits, for example, in that bonus, extra $300 here in florida. they're getting rid of that later this month. look at the numbers that we have here. it's also clear that this is because workers have changed their attitudes and positioning.
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if you look at a pew research study back in january, about 66% of workers who are unemployed said that they are now reconsidering or seriously considered changing their occupation or field of work. there was another study that we saw that said 72% of americans looking for jobs are rethinking their skill sets. it's about workers also changing their perspectives as this employment crunch is still here. >> shaq, really important reminder, for those who think people are just home watching tv, don't feel like going back to, would, we saw a record number of people while they were home during the pandemic go to online training courses, which is great. they've improved their skills. they're going for higher skills, higher-paying jobs. it's not about a labor shortage, it's about i labor shift. and tomorrow we will get a firsthand look at how successful businesses have been filling those jobs. we're going to look at the
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markets just opened after a blockbuster day for amc movie theaters. they just filed to sell 11 million shares, taking advantage of this buying frenzy. the stock nearly doubled yesterday, soaring to an all-time high, so much so that it triggered several trading halts before the closing bell. let's get smarter on all of this and bring in dan nathan, principal of risk reversal advisers, and management ceo josh brown, both cnbc contributors. dan, i will go to you first. movies are coming back, i get it. reopening trade. however, amc is trading miles higher, three times where it was before the pandemic. there's no way people are going to go back to the movies enough to make this valuation make any sense. >> steph, you just used the term
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blockbuster. this company was going away a blockbuster pre-pandemic. in 2019, they did nearly $5.5 billion in revenues and still lost $112 million. that was pre-pandemic. so here we are, you know, the stock was priced to go bankrupt last year, became one of these meme stocks, this reddit crew. they looked at this thing and thought they could rip it. listen, we know there will be better sources of productive capital. this is traders, where you have people forced at home, good access to tools and information, stimulus money and they're finding things to play with. it's like playing a video game on your iphone right now. >> do they have to be, quote/unquote, real investors, josh? we can say this isn't smart money and doesn't make sense fundamentally but it's legal. to any of those people who bought amc last year, they're
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saying i'm up 3,000%, steph. who are you calling the fool? >> that's one of the most interesting aspects of this, stephanie. i'm really glad you started off with that. first of all -- >> first of all, do you have a baby yoda behind you, josh? >> i do, but that's not actually his name and it's a little bit offensive. his name is grogru. as i said before, gen xers starting investing in 1988, 1989 were playing all of the same games. we all discover the markets through the gateway drug of gambling and then many of us become serious and some of us don't. i don't think that anyone has the more high ground to look down on somebody that just made 3,000% on a stock. and you can say oh, they're just doing things because that's what's on reddit. yahoo! finance was the same thing 20 years ago. i think there's this thing dan
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mentioned, people sitting at home, nothing to do, gamification inside of the apps. in the end i don't think most people involved in amc are thinking about it in terms of investment. i don't think they're saying it's a $30 billion market cap that makes sense because ebitda -- nobody cares about that. the question is, what are the next 30 points going to be up or down? that's the game right now. if you don't like it, here's the good news -- this isn't in the dow 30. you don't have to play it. you can just watch along like dan and i are and enjoy yourself. >> are there any victims here if this doesn't work out? al of these name stocks, they're not going to work out well because we know there's a huge disconnect between where they're trading and fundamental value, dan. are there victims? every day we're talking about the warning signs and these investors are saying, beat it, this works for me. >> it works for now. josh made a great point from
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"the wire." the game is the same. it's just an access to tools and ramps that is gambling speculation. and i'm not looking down on it, but your question, steph, who gets hurt? we know who we are, the ones with the least amount of information. we've seen this before. we could have had this conversation four months ago about gamestop and we know a lot of retail investors who did not have good access or good ways to think about how to deploy their capital long term, they got hurt. that stock went from $400 back down to $50. >> but they chose to swim in the deep end of the pool. >> thank you. >> there are no victims here. >> thank you. >> these people are filming themselves taking the biggest risk they possibly can just for the likes. in many cases it's advantageous for them to actually lose a lot of money for the cred that they're earning on message boards. this is a whole new world. if you follow a 22-year-old on tiktok into a trade with your live savings, at what point does
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society just have to sit back and say, yeah, you kind of did that to yourself. this is very different from other pump-and-dump scams where you have somebody who knows what's going on tricking everybody else. in this scenario, people are literally celebrating how ignorant they are. they're calling themselves apes and other words i can't say on msnbc and joyfully doing things that fly in the face of every single shred of conventional wisdom about how to invest. and sometimes they're actually making money as a result of flouting those conventions, and so you can't really say there's a lot of victims here who think they're doing conservative things. everybody knows what they're doing and they're enjoying themselves. >> you know who else knows what he's doing? the sec chair gary gentzler. it will be extraordinary to watch how he reacts going forward. always good to see you both. we have to leave it there. coming up -- new charges and
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we're so confident we can improve your life, we're offering a 30-day risk-free trial. call 1-800-miracle today and experience the miracle-ear advantage for yourself. new this morning, a second person has pleaded guilty in the justice department's criminal investigation into the january 6th insurrection. 38-year-old paul hodgkin's of tampa, florida, pled guilty to a single felony charge. he carried a trump flag into the well of the state -- into the senate during the riot. the only other capitol riot to enter a guilty plea is john shaffer, a member of the far right extremist group the oath keepers. to date more than three dozen members and associates across bong the oath keepers and proud boys, similar group, have been charged with crimes related to the insurrection. joining us now, scott mcfarland,
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investigative reporter with nbc 4 in washington. what can you tell us about the plea deal and as well as the continued fall out from the capitol police. >> stephanie, good morning. the second plea deal, paul hodgkin's, it was a lower-level case with lower-level charges and became hugely important because it's only the second plea deal and it's really a test case for other defendants to study to see where their cases might be headed. he was facing a charge of obstructing an official proceeding, unlawful entry. so are most of the defendants. and after the plea deal was announced, it was said during proceedings there's an expectation of one to two-year sentencing guideline in prison, few thousand dollars in fines to pay back the damages at the capitol but also no requirement for cooperation. that's an indication of what other defendants could face if they plead too. one other note from my reporting this morning, stephanie -- ten u.s. capitol police officers remain off the job with injuries
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sustained on january 6th. that's in addition to all of the officers who suffered trauma or injuries that allowed them to come back to work. ten injuries so significant they're not back on the job, stephanie. this police department is already operating with 240 fewer officers than they are authorized to have. >> five months later still home with sustained injuries. scott, thank you. joining us to discuss now former secretary homeland security in the obama administration, jeh johnson. so good to see you, especially on a topic this important. you've got senate republicans blocking the january 6th commission. we are seeing voting rights legislation, 14 different states have passed new restrictions since the beginning of the year after a completely fair election. what is your level of concern right now? >> stephanie, my level of concern is high. let's start with this, members of the united states senate have
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chosen to view through a political lens a massive security breach on the us capitol. i did the research this morning, and i discovered that the legislation to create the 9/11 commission in 2002 passed the u.s. senate by a vote of 90-8. that's a lot of democrats, that's a lot of republicans. imagine if the 9/11 legislation failed to pass because republicans didn't want to embarrass president bush, for example, because 9/11 happened on his watch. this needs to be viewed as a security issue. it was an attack on the cradle of our democracy during a constitutional function, and it demonstrates there are major gaps in the jurisdiction and command control relationships between the capitol police, national guard, secret service and a host of other law enforcement organizations. and nonpartisan, bipartisan distinguished americans from defense, homeland security, law
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enforcement and even social media should have been given subpoena power and a paid staff to look into this. when it comes to our democracy more generally, stephanie, the most alarming thing i've seen lately was a poll that came out about a week and a half ago from a group called prri. a nontrivial 15% of americans agree with the sweeping qanon allegation that the government media and financial worlds in the u.s. are controlled by a group of satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation. one in six americans, stephanie, have gone off the deep end and have lost a grip on reality. that undermines our democracy, perhaps more than anything else. >> what do we do about it? i actually want to share what mitch mcconnell said -- or is currently saying about the january 6th commission. we should remember, when we compare this to the 9/11 commission, there were no known members of al qaeda voting on
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that commission, passing it. this is a very different situation. let's hear what he had to say. >> another layer of investigation in my view doesn't add anything. we were all witnesses to it. i was there. we all know exactly what happened. i don't think we would learn anything further by having yet another level of investigation, and that's why i oppose the january 6th commission. with regard to the future, we're going to arrest, hopefully convict everybody involved in the insurrection. >> he's saying the commission is redundant, they're already all over it. >> he's missing the point, either because he's missing it or doesn't want to see the point. the point is that there was a major security breach on the u.s. capitol, and going forward we need to understand how to fix the command-and-control
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relationships in case of another insurrection, whether it's a group of trump supporters or some other group. that is a nonpartisan, apolitical issue that needs to be solved. he's right, there's been a series of committees that have looked at this but what changes had been made as a result of those piecemeal efforts? a commission with broad jurisdiction to look at january 6th really is appropriate here. >> it's hard to anything what happened on the 6th. we're looking at those pictures. what people are ignore are the other attacks we are seeing every single day, cyberattacks, whether it's jbs meatpacking, colonial pipeline. the businesses dealing with this, the administration urging businesses, but beyond that, doesn't this have to be something that dhs takes the lead on? cyber warfare is currently the biggest risk. >> yes, stephanie, the way to look at it is this at the federal level, dhs is the
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fireman that captures the vulnerability and forensics, the fbi captures the bad guys and the cyberattack, if there's an international another nation, then u.s. cyber command, which is part of the department of defense, should have a role as well. >> all right. secretary johnson, good to see you. you always make us smarter. coming up next, athletes we applaud them for standing up for causes but mot for standing up for themselves. how naomi osaka's withdraw from the french open could spark a change in the world of sports. n change in the world of sports. and long journeys across the world! but most importantly? they give us something to eat when we drink beer. planters. a nut above. nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g because we're the engineers they give us something to eat when we drink beer. who built the most reliable network in america.
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naomi osaka is home today after she withdrew from the french open earlier this week. venus williams the latest tennis pro to offer her support. >> for me personally how i deal with it, is that i know every single person asking me a question can't play as well as i can and never will, so no matter what you say or what you write, you'll never let it get to me. that's how i deal with it. each person deals with it differently. >> let's dig deeper and bring in dave, the sports editor for the nation and now an msnbc opinion columnist. dave, sports teams were promoting mental health when they had to keep the light on during the pandemic. now osaka is back at home after her own personal struggle wasn't
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taken seriously. was all of that just talk? >> it certainly is looking like it, at least from the lords of tennis. the problem here is that naomi osaka's assertion and advocacy for her own mental health ran up against the dictates of the french open. excuse me. that's the far bigger problem. and what we're dealing with, with naomi osaka, is the fact that i believe they're trying to discipline her, precisely because she was so outspoken in the past year. >> but isn't this more about business than sports? if this was just about athletes' excellence why would they care if she spoke to the press or not? >> no, that's the right question. they care about her speaking to the press so much because so much of the growth of tennis, particularly in smalls towns in eastern europe, is dependent not on espn but local newspapers coming out to these tournaments
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trying to talk to these players, get straight quotes, all sorts of things that are important for the growth of tennis as an international business. look at what the french open has done. they have pushed away arguably the most marketable player in their sport because that player advocated for their own mental health and spoke about mental anxiety and depression. that's a problem. >> part of this is, people in the public eye are under massive public attack right now. think about the incidents we're seeing in professional basketball. fans going after, throwing things, just being completely abusive to players. a, what does that do it those athletes? doesn't it make sense that so many of them would want to retreat? >> yes. there's a backlash taking place. athletes spent the last year asserting not just for black lives but voting rights and their mental health and you're seeing a reaction on behalf of fans now they're allowed back into the arena. i've been arguing athletes need to strategize with themselves
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and union and allies because ground was gained this past year in athletes ability to advocate for themselves. that's being turned back. i think athletes need to realize that there's a war going on that's an effort to try to redus plin the sport and re-establish old hierarchies. >> meaning what those fans are trying to do is say shut up and dribble? >> absolutely. a lot of these athleteses the last year, but clearly that was not universal. >> if we applaud them we should support them. thank you so much. and whoever just called you, tell them they need to be watching this show every day at 9:00 a.m. not acceptable. >> i'm sorry about that. we need to share this with you a story we've been covering over the last year getting more complicated. new york attorney general he tisha james is demanding kodak ceo testify over insider trading allegations. we reported it on last summer when the trump administration, this effort led by peter navarro, announced a $765
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million loan to kodak, a borderline defunct film company, to produce ingredients for pharmaceuticals to fight the covid pandemic. that loan never materialized and kodak never did a big pivot to drugs. it never actually produced anything. but in the month before the announcement kodak's ceo bought 46,000 shares of stock which soared more than 300% after the announcement. guess what happened then? he sold them as did other company board members. the attorney general's office said kodak's statement to investors claiming the stock trades were in compliance with the company's insider trading policy were false and misleading. kodak denies this and says the attorney general is wrong on the facts. well, we would love to find out more. i can't wait for him to testify. we will keep you posted. that wraps up this hour. i'm stephanie ruhle. hallie jackson picks up breaking news coverage.
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