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top beat reporters standing by to bring them to you the second that we get them. we're also following the other news developing now, the attack on the democratic process from the former president with new reporting on donald trump's past and future and how it's affecting the present. those close to him saying he is fixated on how to try to overturn the 2020 election. he can't actually do it, but he's becoming obsessed with ongoing quote/unquote audits of the presidential vote according to reports as we learn more to what his justice department did to "new york times" reporters. the journalists are here live. all being used as a rallying cry for democrats on the hill. our reporting on what's described as the five-alarm fire push to rewrite senate rules after republicans blocked an investigation of the january 6th insurrection and why the current president's agenda might hinge on this. i'm hallie jackson joined by chief legal correspondent ari mel bur who is on court watch.
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to be transparent with our viewers forgive us if you have to go and look and read whatever decision might come out here. talk through what we could see in the remaining cases outstanding? >> hi, hallie. you're right. we're tracking all of this. the big cases are a ruling on obamacare that may sound familiar but there is a case before the court that could change limit or even potentially legally end a big part of obamacare. religious freedom. there's a big interesting case about free speech rights of students off-campus. any parent knows what students say online can feel as real to them as what might be otherwise regulated in the classroom. there's a big case that could touch on college athletes, whether they can be compensated differently. that's a big issue when you think about labor rights and the student athletes. and on state voting as well as several others because i don't want to go on forever.
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the last one is on state voting a case that pits voting rights protections against the newer restrictive laws we've seen. i'm not speaking of the ones the viewers may be familiar with in texas and georgia. these are previously passed laws in arizona, but similarly restrict voting rights and we will see soon enough whether the supreme court says that's okay, that's their call or whether that violates voting rights in the court's view. >> ari, thank you very much for that. i know you're keeping an eye on that. teeing up really this next discussion here, as he said, voting rights is one of the big decisions we're waiting for from the supreme court about some past laws, even as right now the fight in state houses is spreading. we've got new reporting on where that goes next even as the de facto leader of the republican party former president donald trump reportedly gets more fixated on so-called audits of ballots and election fraud conspiracies. we're joined by josh dausy, who
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is joining us with his new reporting as well. sala let me start with you on this fight over the senate rule, it is significant and threatening several key agenda items for president biden. paycheck fairness, the equality act, gun background checks. one group sounding what they're calling a five-alarm fire siren here basically. >> that's right. more than 100 liberal advosy groups sent a letter urging them to abolish the 60 vote threshold. their argument republicans have rallied around the big lie to enact the big lie of a stolen election in 2020 to enact voting restrictions across the country that they say are a threat to democracy. the odds at this moment favor preservation of the filibuster because democrats need all 50 senators on board and they don't have that despite the failed vote of an independent commission to investigate the
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january 6th attacks. since then senator manchin has given no indication he's ready to move. senator sinema of arizona this week defended the filibuster. let's have a listen to what she said out west. >> as folks in arizona known i've long been a supporter of the filibuster because it's a tool that protects the democracy of our nation. when you have a system that's not working effectively the way to fix that is to change your behavior, not eliminate the rules or change the rules, but to change your behavior. >> now the organizers of this effort, hallie, say the next two months will be critical if the filibuster will be weakened or abolished it has to happen before lawmakers go home. senator schumer is planning to put bills on the floor that will force a decision point for democrats including voting rights and gun control and paycheck fairness, the paycheck fairness act. all have a path to a majority to
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the senate and get on pipe's desk if the filibuster is abolished but none have a viable path if the filibuster remains. that is the question that democrats in the senate are going to have a lot to think about in the coming weeks, even if at this moment, the odds favor preservation of the filibuster. >> thank you. jane, you're following the latest on voting restriction measures that have been happening around the country and our first read points out that texas is among several states where republicans are not only looking to limit voter access but drafting proposals that could make the 2024 presidential race chaotic, right. this is relating to how elections are administered. for example, in georgia it changes up the chain of command. the secretary of state, who has obviously been at the center of what's happened in georgia there, has been removed from the elections board. in arizona the secretary of state would not be able to defend election lawsuits under a bill there. in arkansas different people on the election board are empowered to take over the administration of the election where there have
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been alleged violations of voter registration laws. in texas democrats have blocked for now the bill that would let the court void an election without trying to learn how individual people voted. it paints a picture of what is happening around the country in the right leaning state houses. in texas there's a controversial now over literally a typo and what that means for the future of voting rights there. >> yeah. so one of the other controversial provisions in texas was a part of the law that said you couldn't start sunday early voting until after 1:00 p.m. which critics said was a direct attack on black voters who often organize souls to the polls event and vote together after church getting in a van after sunday services. if polls aren't open you can't do that. this is one of those things that came out of a conference committee as lawmakers tried to put together a bill between two chambers after all behind closed doors surprised lawmakers and
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republicans defended the 1:00 p.m. sunday early voting start saying that it was, you know, made possible for poll workers to go to church as well, but now, after the bill has failed, they're coming back and saying, oh, actually we meant to do 11:00 a.m., not 1:00 p.m. it was a typo and we'll fix it when we try again. what this is an about-face, a walk back, because tlae been pressure and democrats and activists have had success at going after this bill. it's very unusual texas couldn't pass their voting -- restrictive voting bill because, of course, texas has the votes, it's all republicans down there. this was what you're seeing is a lot of attention and a lot of controversy pushing lawmakers to maybe walk back even if they're going to save face calling ate typo, some of the controversial parts of these laws. >> josh, you've got some republicans in several states working on these voter sort of restriction bills after 2020. you've gotten reporting on the former president who is the de
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facto leader of the gop and sources are telling me that he suggested, let's be clear how bananas this is, we can say that, he might return to the white house this year. that is not going to happen. mike lindell is now telling the daily beast the president got that idea probably from him. what is happening? >> the former president has become fixated on the audit in arizona and pushing for audits in other states, georgia, new hampshire, and other places. these audits went according to his plan, he could return to the white house. mike lindell said that, sydney powell, his former lawyer said that. she thinks there's a lot of lawsuits of her own right now that's not going to happen as we know. there is a push by the former president to relitigate the election and it's something that he talks about nonstop particularly in arizona and georgia, two of the states he's
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most seemingly obsessed with trying to prove that he actually won those states. >> and josh, where is the pivot point for this? you have former vice president mike pence who will be up in new hampshire later today delivering a speech that is refueling the speculation about his presumed 2024 run, but yet the threats by the former to the potentially run again, although folks i talk to are highly skeptical he will, are in effect freezing the field. at what point do we hit the point of no return where donald trump needs to put up or shut up? >> it could be after the mid terms to see how republicans do in the midterms and what role the former president plays there, a constructive or destructive one. you have mvp of the party remains involved with him more than 70% of republican voters based on polls have bought into his false claims that the election was stolen, so right now, you have a former president who has the capacity to really
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dominate the gop. you know, at some point you have a number of other candidates who would certainly want to take him on and would want to be president in 2024, but there's not a lot of oxygen for folks willing to buck him or criticize him as we've seen repeatedly those who go against him, often face lots of intimidation, taunts. he doesn't have his twitter, he's not as ubiquitous on television, but still a lot of backlash for folks who do not fall in behind the former president. >> thanks to all of you. new reporting from "the new york times" on "the new york times." the paper says the biden administration has informed them the justice department under the former president secretly seized the phone records of four reporters over a span of four months in 2017, part of a leaks investigation by the white house. this is the latest news organization we're learning was targeted as part of an effort to uncover sources, phone records
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from reporters for the "washington post" and cnn were also taken. katie is joining with her new reporting, she covers the justice department for the "new york times." this all has to do with an article the four reporters wrote about james comey, the former fbi director in 2017. what's the deal? >> that's correct. so the justice department has been investigating james comey basically since 2017 for whether or not he was leaking information to the media. the investigation itself took on many different forms over the years. investigators looked at things could mr. comey be charged for leaking memos about his encounters with donald trump and they landed also on whether or not he had anything to do with a memo that came into the hands of reporters at the "new york times" that talked about sensitive intelligence obtained by dutch intelligence sources given to the fbi and then "the new york times" learned about it. now again, this investigation into james comey and whether or not he leaked to our knowledge has not been closed even though
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it began in 2017, even though prosecutors in the u.s. attorney's office in washington, d.c., advocated for closing it, the fbi did not want to for several reasons, including they felt it was necessary to at least try to interview james comey, but to your point, this is part of a long running leaks investigation and as part of it the justice department did seize the records of reporters. >> "the new york times" is condemning what happened saying, quote, seizing the phone records of journalists' profoundly undermine press freedoms, it threatens to silence the sources we depend on about what the government is doing. your executive editor wants a explanation from the doj and you point out this is something, as you say, that is long standing and happened in the obama administration as well. >> that's right. the justice departments has said that all of the records taken, all of the journalists' records taken in 2019 and 2020, those journalists have been informed and nothing new that's going to come out. additionally, president biden said he does not believe that
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journalists' records should be seized. the statement on its basis is controversial. you can see how any administration would want to clamp down on leaks to some degree. taking this away does seem to some national security experts extreme but biden has said he feels it's the wrong thing to do because he strongly supports press freedom. we may see a shift under this administration from a policy that under trump and obama was used quite frequently. >> katie bennett from "the new york times," thank you for being on the show. quick update, the supreme court in the last 14 minutes or so, has finished releasing decisions today. they release their opinion in one case on computer fraud. we're going to keep watching for decisions on obamacare and others, 72 hours from here. next decision day will be monday here at 10:00 eastern. coming up next, israel's longest serving prime minister ever now on the verge of getting ousted. live in israel with who benjamin
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next hour at the state department secretary of state antony blinken is set to meet with the israeli defense minister benny gantz, part of the historic coalition trying to push prime minister benjamin netanyahu out of power. we will see if secretary blinken and the two of them talk about that because this historic deal is just that, extraordinary, to try to oust netanyahu. you have eight political parties coming together from the hard right, the left, the center, and in a first for israel an arab political party, really the only interest they all share is no more bebe.
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kelly cobiella is in tel aviv. good morning. >> good morning to you, hallie. what a remarkable 24 hours in israeli politics. that scene of a nationalist, right wing candidate, politician sitting next to the leader of an arab party, signing an agreement, joining this coalition. absolutely unheard of in this country, really an extraordinary moment as you said, but now we move on to the next phase and that is a vote in israeli parliament or the knesset. the date has not yet been set. that's up to the speaker of the parliament, a staunch ally of benjamin netanyahu's. by law, he has to set that date no later than the 14th of june, a week from monday. it's in netanyahu's interest to have more time in order to try to pick off some of these politicians, try to get them to jump ship and not vote in favor
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of forming a government with this coalition. he's already sort of started applyings the pressure with a lot of tweets today. he called neftaly bennett his former protege and possibly next prime minister of israel, said he was selling out to the arab parties. he sort of cajoled right wing lawmakers, saying that you should be on the side of likud, you should vote against this government, so there's a lot of that going on right now. but if this vote is approved, if this -- the government is formed, netanyahu isn't going away, hallie. he will be a member of the opposition and he will dedicate himself, you can be sure, to obstructing and trying to disrupt. hallie. >> kelly cobiella live in te aviv for all of us. add the new york subway
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nbc news learning the white house is about to unveil its
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global vaccine distribution plan at its covid response team briefing next hour. this is significant of how the u.s. is going to help the rest of the world here. the vaccination demand in the u.s. beginning to level off, the biden administration has been under more and more pressure to basically share our stockpiles with parts of the world where there's a shortage of vaccine. we will be getting those details from the white house next hour. that is according to somebody familiar with those plans. more to come. as we follow other developments out of the biden administration this morning, and a clear message to russia and businesses right here at home, to putin, you have the white house saying retaliation might be in the works over that meat processing plant cyber attack which was linked back to a russian criminal group. it's also happening as the administration now sends a new warning to businesses that no company is safe and asking those leaders to meet to go over plans for what would happen if they're hit by an attack, spelling out directly how the white house is positioning itself for where this probably goes next, to some
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sort of concrete action, as we learn more major systems have been hit including new york city's m.t.a., the subway, the busses, breached in april by a group believed to have links to the chinese government adding the cyber attacks on jbs, the meat plant, colonial pipeline, massachusetts ferry service, and so many more happening quietly. you don't see them in banners on cable news or headlines in the papers, inside schools, hospitals, big systems. mike mem maly is live outside. fill us in on what the white house is doing now. i understand you have your hands on a memo from a key administration official on this. >> it's right here, hallie. it's interesting you think back to december during the presidential transition we just learned about the massive solarwinds hack attributed to russia. then president-elect joe biden lit into donald trump for taking his eye off the ball for responding and preparing for
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these kinds of cyber hacking incidents. what we've seen from the administration over time is doing everything they can on a federal level including imposing sanctions on russia as they ri to deter these attacks and apointing key personnel like a new national cyber director to deal with this. it makes it clear to the business community a lot is on their shoulders in terms of preparing for these attacks and taking steps to minimize the impacts of them. the size and sale of these attacks are increasing an businesses need to treat this like their homes or offices. you have locks on the doors and security guards at the gate. some of the steps they're recommending to implement some of the steps the white house called for in an executive order like ensure they have two-factor authentication, encrypting their data, also wanting to make sure they back up their data to segment their networks to ensure if they have an intrusion not every part of their data systems will be necessarily corrupted.
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the white house making it clear that they see a difference in terms of this strategy behind some of these criminal syndicates but potentially state actors, moving away from trying to steal data and make money off of them but increasingly to try to deter, to try to disrupt networks with potential efforts to disrupt our meat supply, the colonial hack, what that can do to our gas and gas prices in this country as well. we know, hallie, as well the president is discounting the idea that the president of russia, vladimir putin, is testing him, but this is going to be something the white house says is on their agenda when they meet in geneva in just over a week now. >> thank you. jake, ticked off a few of those recent targets with we knew about, but, you know, all of us have probably come across way more targets than we ever thought because this is happening increasingly more and more places like where you're near in san francisco. it is remarkable what's in just a few blocks radius of you right
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there. >> it's absolutely unbelievable. when you set foot in really any city in america, you could throw a rock and probably hit something that has been touched in some way by ransomware. i'm standing in from of ucsf, the premier medical research hospital of this region. exactly a year ago today it announced it had to pay a little more than a million dollars to free up academic research held on servers that had been captured by ransomware actors. here's the thing, if i take a bus here, you're going to see one go by me in a moment, that system, the san francisco muni system was hit in 2016 and they had to make a free ride for everybody for a full day. back then it was quaint they paid only $73,000 to release that ransomware attack. if i walk two blocks that way, i'll hit a bar that might serve me something from molson coors hit this year, across the park,
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the asian art museum that was hit. it goes on and on. this speaks to how complicated what the white house is asking for here is going to be on the ground. we're talking here about needing to coordinate not just among maybe the fortune 500 companies, you can imagine a maegts or two settling the choreography for dealing with ransomware at that scale, but city administrators, hospital administrators, superintendents of school drigts needing to come up with a way to figure out how we're going to do this. does that mean every attack goes through an fbi field office? is the fbi prepared to deal with that? does it mean that all of them need to have ransomware insurance, now a multibillion dollar industry? all of that is really, you know, up for grabs here. >> jake ward, that is a look at how this is. thanks to both of you. stick with what's going on in washington because we have new reporting in from our capitol hill team which puts us as a fly on the wall inside the
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meeting between president biden and republican senator shelley moore capito and where the infrastructure talks stand this morning with the republicans getting ready to make their counter offer as soon as tomorrow. leigh ann caldwell is on capitol hill. a lot of talk about negotiation and compromise. they are still extremely far apart on this, right? >> they are, hallie. new day, a new step in these negotiations. so after the meeting broke up last night, we got pretty matter of fact but bland statements from both sides. they were described as frank conversations. senator shelley moore capito went back and held a telephone briefing for her five republican senators who weren't in the room and what we found out is that what president biden wants is a trillion dollars in new spending from these republicans. you might be confused saying i thought the last republican proposal was $928 billion. that's not so different.
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well the difference is, he's talking about new spending, the last republican proposal had just $250 billion of what we call new spending here. the rest of the spending is assumed that's going to be passed because of the normal budget process. so that's a big, big difference in this spending level. in addition, president biden told senator capito he wants it to be paid for with new tax increases, mostly on corporations. of course that is something that republicans have not agreed to, do not want, and that was nowhere near their proposal. where do things go now? the republicans are expected to present a counter offer perhaps as early as tomorrow. that's when president biden and shelley moore capito are expected to talk again, but democrats are getting really anxious, hallie, and want to get some direction on where this is going because they know these negotiations cannot go on forever. >> heat for sure.
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50 days now until the opening ceremony of the tokyo olympics are set to start and this morning two wildly different headlines about the games. one, reading 10,000 volunteers drop out. that's about one in eight of the total volunteer corps. organizers say that's not going to impact the olympics. instead look at the other headline from today, the head of the games saying, we cannot postpone again. that sounds pretty definitive even with japan's sluggish vaccine rollout which is why health officials worry the games could be a super spreader event. sarah harman is following this from london. talk about why organizers are adamant now less than two months out about not postponing the games? >> hey, hallie. that's right. the head of japan's olympic organizing committee has reassured everyone there is no chance that games are going to be canceled and she's addressed concerns saying precautions will be taken to keep athletes safe and to make a sort of bubble
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situation. but, public opinion in japan as you mentioned, is really against holding the games and it's easy to understand why. we're talking about a country where less than 4% of the population is fully vaccinated. tokyo is under a state of emergency right now, along with nine other areas in japan, due to the covid rates. the rates of infection have been coming down in the last couple of weeks, but as you mentioned, there's concern about the creation of variants and the potential for a super spreader event. even without foreign spectators, the olympics are expecting ins the neighborhood of 70,000 to 80,000 people from 200 different countries, all coming together in tokyo this summer and there's real concern about what that's going to mean for the local population. the majority, the vast majority of whom are not vaccinated. polls show as many as 80% of people in japan oppose hosting the games. the reasons the games are going ahead is pretty straightforward
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given the contract between the ioc and host country only the ioc can really cancel them at this point and given what hashimoto is saying today, it seems really unlikely that is going to happen. hallie? >> sarah harman, thank you. we should note that nbc universal, which is the parent company of msnbc, owns the u.s. media rights to the upcoming olympics. president biden and the white house are all-in on june as national month of action to get more people vaccinated and there are a whole bunch of newp incentives to get people on board, free beer, free child care, rides to shots. the political fight is far from over. given the backlash to some pandemic precautions over the past year, a new report finds a growing number of states are now trying to limit how much power health officials could have in the next crisis. in state after state, crowds, protesting pandemic precautions this past year.
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>> freedom. >> and now state after state, apparently turning anger into action. a new report from a coalition of public health officials finds more than a dozen states have introduced or passed bills that would limit the power of state leaders like the governor or health departments when it comes to certain safety measures in a crisis like a pandemic. north dakota, banning mask mandates. kansas, blocking the governor from shutting down schools. ohio, giving its legislature the ability to overturn any order issued by the governor or state health department in a public health emergency. that makes bob nervous. he owns wolffe's ridge brewing in columbus and even though his business almost went under, he wants experts, not politicians looking at science to stay safe. >> i think it's going to make us less safe as a country. >> these laws, supporters say, are about preventing overreach and over reaction. there are critics of laws like
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this say you are tying the hands of public health officials were a pandemic like this to happen again. >> i think that is a gross mischaracterization of what we're doing. >> senator rob mccauley helped sponsor the ohio bill. >> this was aimed at putting in place checks and balances in response to an unprecedentd set of circumstances in an unprecedented use of executive power at the state level. >> that group of state and local public health officials is trying to draw more attention to what's happening in the state houses. they argue these laws are not just demoralizing to health officials but dangerous potentially. much more ahead here on this program, including the fight over political rights and what it means for climate change. a new report showing that it's responsible for nearly 40% of heat deaths around the world. we're talking with the first ever heat officer from miami-dade county. new this morning, that sprawling
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scorching its way from the west coast to the midwest right now and according to noaa heat is the number one weather-row lated killer in the u.s. more than hurricanes, more than flooding, more than tornadoes or winter storm. listen to this a new study in the journal "nature" found that 37% of global heat deaths in the past 27 years happened because of human caused temperature increases, meaning things that people did that made it hotter. and with temperatures getting hotter all around the world at least 30 cities from phoenix to nashville have hired experts to try to fight these extreme weather events. joining us is one of the specialists jane gilbert, the first ever heat officer for miami-dade county. officer jane, thank you for being with us. >> it's a pleasure, hallie. thank you. >> i got to tell you, i don't envy your job. your goal, you are tasked with basically trying to mitigates the effects of these hot
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temperatures caused by global warming in a city that is known for its heat. its basketball team is named for that. how do you approach a challenge like this in miami? >> yeah. so, you know, miami has always known heat. he moved here for the tropical weather. but we have 27 more days over 90 degrees since i moved here over 25 years ago, and we're expected to have close to three months of days with dangerously high heat index of 105 or more per year by mid-century. we really need to get a handle on it. the good thing in miami, unlike say the heat wave that was hitting the southwest moving now into the midwest in minnesota, not a lot of people have air conditioning. almost everyone here has air conditioning, so we have a place to cool off. however, we are also vulnerable to hurricanes, so hurricanes can hit and cause a widespread power
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outage. we need to make sure everyone has access to a place to cool off in that sense and there are many other things that we're going to be working on, but i'll let you ask a question. >> i wanted to ask, the things you're working on, one of the things you would like to see is more, tying it back to where i am in washington, more federal action against the threat of these rising temperatures. i wonder what that looks like to you specifically and what you would like to see interest the biden administration that you aren't seeing right now? >> so, first and foremost, we are thrilled that the biden administration is taking it seriously and proposed some real actions. the first and most important thing the federal government can do is help our country and the world get a handle on greenhouse gas emissions. the more we can keep our overall increase in temperatures down to 1.5 or 2 degrees celsius, those
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high heat days will become less and we don't have to spend the billions of dollars to address the health and economic impacts. a clean energy standard, a cap on greenhouse gas emissions, more support for clean energy is the energy is the first and foremost thing. then we know we're going to have more extreme heat regardless. so in the infrastructure invest emergency we need to take high heat into account. >> jane gilbert, fascinaing discussion. excited to see what you do down there in miami. appreciate your time. a look at some of the scenes from minneapolis earlier this morning. you might wonder what that construction equipment is doing there at the site of the memorial for george floyd. it's looking different than it has this past year. they are taking away barriers, clearing away some of the memorial so traffic can get around more freely.
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given the symbolism of this area, this is drawing a ton of reaction this morning. it's feeling very personal, very painful to some. it comes as we get word on the sentence prosecutors are requesting for the man, the former police officer convicted of murdering george floyd, derek chauvin. meagan fitzgerald is covering this live from chicago. let's start with what's happening at the george floyd memorial site. this is emotional, it's -- just this morning, we saw them start in the predawn hours in minneapolis, some tension we have seen. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. there's a lot of emotion around this area, as you mentioned. people have come from all over the community there, certainly, throughout our country, but across the world to come this area where george floyd died to pay their respects. so we have seen over the course of the year this memorial just grow with murals being painted,
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with candles lit, flowers dropped open, notes left there. we have seen posters that have been put up around this square of other black people that have been killed at the hands of police. this has been very important for people to come. the mayor himself saying that he understands that this is a racial healing area where people have come. it's going to remain that way. businesses in this community are also suffering because it's been closed to traffic over the last year. >> we have new filings related to derek chauvin's sentencing set to happen later this month. what exactly prosecutors are asking for, put that into context for us. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. as you mentioned, derek chauvin is expected to be sentenced later this month. yesterday, we saw a motion filed by the prosecution where they are asking the judge to sentence derek chauvin to 30 years in prison, citing the aggravating
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circumstances. that includes the fact that when george floyd died, at the moment of his death, there were children there witnessing that. they also cited the fact that derek chauvin abused his authority. they are calling for 30 years in prison. the defense saying that they want a lesser sentence, even asking the judge for probation. june 25th is sentencing day. that's when we find out. hallie? >> meagan fitzgerald, appreciate your reporting. as pride month kicks off around the country, in virginia, there's a battle over transgender rights for students. it's happening in the outer suburbs of where we are in washington, out in loudoun county. a gym teacher is suing his school district looking to get reinstated after he was put on paid leave and barred from school grounds. here is why. the teacher, tanner cross, says he will refuse to call students by the name or pronounces that they identify with. saying this during a school board meeting last week. >> i love all of my students but
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i will never lie to them regardless of the consequences. i'm a teacher but i serve god first. i will not affirm a biological boy can be a girl and vice versa because it's against my religion, it's lying to a child, it's abuse to a child and it's sinning against our god. >> those comments not just drawing attention and in some instances outrage from across the country but even inside the elementary school, including from the parents of two students in his class. failing to affirm a child, which includes refusing to call them by the name or pronounces they use, is child abuse. the group, alliance defending freedom, which announced it would represent the teacher, is an organization that the southern poverty law center labeled a hate group. the author of the op-ed joins me, the parent of two students at the school. thank you for being with us. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> why do you feel it was
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important for you to take the step of writing this op-ed? what's at stake here? >> not just transgender students but students across our community face a risk when religious freedom is used as an excuse to harass children. we know that less than 10% of students feel safe and accepted in school. 80% actually skip bathrooms, 64% skip pe because they are afraid of harassment and assault. our community is not going to put up with that. >> the lawsuit argues administrators violated his freedom of speech and religion. you respond to that -- how do you respond to that argument? i know you have said people are entitled to their beliefs and their freedom of religion. you are trying to draw the distinction between that and discrimination. >> absolutely. i think at the end of the day, this conversation keeps going back to religious freedom and freedom of speech. i think people make their argument he is speaking out
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against a policy that hasn't ban proved. the reality is, the school board has passed a provision and a regulation that added gender identity, sexual orientation and gender expression to our anti discrimination policy. if a teacher can't not harass and assault a student -- for a transgender child, that can be one of the most traumatic experiences to have an adult confront them and tell them what they are -- at their inner most part of their soul, their gender identity that can cause harm. it can cause increase in suicidal ideation, anxiety and depression. these aren't the things we want any teacher inducing in a child. that's not what they are there for. they are there to take care of our children and protect them. >> chris, i'm out of time.
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if he is reinstated, you don't want anybody fired, but if he does get his job back, will you keep your kids in his class? >> if he can't follow the rules, he should be let go. it's a debate i need to have with my children. they are upset about this. we need to figure that out. >> appreciate your time. thank you very much for being on with us and for sharing your perspective. that does it for us. we thank you for watching this hour of "hallie jackson reports." more coming up after the break. k
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