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>> good day. i'm chris jansing in for andrea mitchell who is on assignment in turkey. we will have more on her reporting this hour. and a message, ramp up cybersecurity against a new group of cyber attacks who are hitting industries like oil pipelines, meat packing companies. officials say it is not a question of if, but when. and prime minister netanyahu seems to be on his way out. but he is vowing to fight. and andrea has an exclusive interview with linda
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thomas-greenfield. first, the latest from washington. joining me is nbc news white house correspondent peter alexander, lee leigh ann caldwell and moderator. i want to talk about cyber attacks hitting meat and transportation sectors. the white house is warning leaders you have to take this threat seriously. what more can you tell us? >> that's the bottom line in an open letter the white house sent to business leaders and executives. notice the significant rise in these ransomware attacks. here is part of that letter --
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they note that no company is safe here regardless of their size and location. you will remember that just yesterday the fbi indicated that it was russian cyber criminal gangs responsible for the latest hack on jbs, the world's largest meat provider. i asked jen psaki if she believed president biden could stop it. here is what president biden said when he was pressed on the matter yesterday. >> mr. president, will you
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retaliate against russia on this latest ransomware attack? >> i am looking closely at this. >> do you think putin is testing you? >> no. >> you could hear his blunt answer there, no. this comes less than two weeks before president biden is to meet with vladimir putin on june 16. this is among the issues they will discuss. to put a punctuation mark on that, cyber an a analyists say trillion will be paid out. >> hundreds of billions.
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i know you have more information from the president met with shelly moore capito. >> they met yesterday afternoon. they didn't give a lot of details about it when they left. but my sources tell me president biden was clear about a couple of things. the first, he wants $1 trillion in new spending by senate republicans. when you translate that into budget speak and how things work here on capitol hill. that means that republicans and president biden are about $1.4 trillion apart on their baseline numbers so they still v worlds to go in order to meet in the mitdle. -- middle. and on the issue of taxes, president bind said he wants his infrastructure plan to be paid by taxes. the original plan was to raise the corporate tax from 21% to
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28%, but my sources tell me president biden presented other ideas on how to raise taxes that don't get into the 2017 gop tax cut bill which republicans do not want to touch. we are still working on the details of what those ideas that biden had were. it gives them an out so they don't have to touch that landmark legislation that was a significant achievement during the trump years and by republicans. i am also told that senate republicans are expected to come back with some sort of counter offer as early as tomorrow. we could start to see some of those details then. chris, these negotiations aren't yet over, but the question is, how long do they continue, especially when both sides are so far apart. >> obviously the president has his hands full. in the meantime, let's talk about the guy who used to be in the white house, donald trump.
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"the washington post" is reporting he is fixated on election audits especially the one in arizona. he is telling allies that success could signal a return to the white house for him by august. how are they promoting the big lie? >> he started his career on conspiracy theories. he started out questioning the legitimacy of the first african-american president, barack obama. now he's questioning the legacy and legitimacy of another president, joe biden. you see president trump leaning in on these tactics that have worked for him in the past. he won't be back in office this
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summer. this reporting where he's telling people he will be back in the white house in august is him saying things we know are not true and that are just dreams of the president. that being said, there are real consequences to this. you see state legislatures pushing voting bills to restrict a lot of voting rights of americans in this country and democrats are scrambling figuring out how to respond. you see a president and party leaning in on an idea if they can talk about this more, they can get their base riled up and angry, maybe that will help them in the 2022 mid terms. what are the future consequences of former president trump lying about the elections. a lot of people who have trump-like tendencies and subscribing to trump-like lies.
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>> we are told he is using it as a litmus test for 2022 and 2024. breaking news. the justice department is looking into whether the republican lawmaker gates obstructed justice with a witness in an investigation. pete, bring us up to speed on what we know. >> this involves a telephone call according to a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation, a telephone call gaetz had in a long running case building against a former associate of his in florida, somebody who has already pleaded guilty. according to the source the phone call was with someone else who conferenced in a potential witness in the case. that's what the basis of potential obstruction of justice
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inquiry would be and that's what it is. we don't know when the call was made. this was first reported by politico. his office has put out a statement -- >> so, pete, do we presume, knowing who was involved in this conversation, that it might have been recorded? >> we don't know that. my understanding it's based on the statement to investigators of the potential witness. >> obviously we know, joyce vance, that joel greenberg is a cooperating witness, someone the other part of the investigation. do you draw a line between them? what do you make of this latest reporting? >> the reporting is interesting because the federal statute that
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makes it a crime to try to intimidate a witness doesn't require you be successful. the witness doesn't have to be known to law enforcement at the time the intimidation is made. this activity in and of itself could substantiate charges against the congressman. something that jumps out is that there are two other people on this phone call. the reporting is that gaetz is conferenced into a phone call against two other people. that means there are two potential witnesses to whatever he did on that phone call. whether there is a recording or not, law enforcement could use those to back each other up. >> what would be part of an obstruction of justice case? is that fairly broad? what would make sense to you given the perimeters of what we
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know about this case? >> the statute is pretty sweeping. it covers a lot of different kinds of conduct. this is heartland conduct. as reported, it would be an effort to keep a witness either from testifying at all, even delaying testimony would be enough, or to try to get the witness to testify to a different version of facts than what everyone knows is the truth. it's conduct within that realm that this statute reaches and it is a very serious crime. it had a statuary penalty of up to 20 years in prison. >> we saw in that statement you quoted from the mat gaetz spokesperson, but what do we know about where it is, who is involved and how far along are we? >> let me summarize the answer
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this way. i don't charges, if there are going to be charges against congressman gaetz, they won't be any time soon. >> pete williams on this breaking news. thanks so much. we appreciate it. president biden and queen elizabeth have set the date for their first meeting. president and jill biden will travel to the house of windsor. the queen has met with every u.s. president since 1951 with the exception of president lyndon b. johnson. a dire situation between turkey and syria as millions of refugees stands to lose aid if a gateway is closed between those two countries. an exclusive interview with linda thomas-greenfield, how she is trying to keep that corridor
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breaking news on an ambitious plan to get vaccines to the rest of the world. the white house announced it will share at least 80 million doses with other countries by the end of the month. 75% will be shared by covax to countries in africa and asia. and the other 20% will go to countries most in need, including india and mexico. refugees in syria are at humanitarian risk as russia plans to shut down the last route between turkey and syria. andrea mitchell is the only reporter traveling with the u.s.
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ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield. andrea got an exclusive interview earlier today and filed this report. >> this is point zero. this is turkey. that is syria. here turkey is working with the u.n. and u.s. to try to keep this crossing open. russia is trying to close it. she is talking to refugees and nongovernmental workers. she is getting briefed by the u.n. but this is the important critical message she is trying to bring back to the security council of united nations. that refugees down that road will be dying from starvation, from violence, from hunger and lack of shelter. now, more than anything else,
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covid. that is what needs to get through. food. cement for shelter. vaccines, the little that have come so far. now she has announced $239 million dollars of u.s. aid that will get to these people, but not if russia decides next month this last corridor into the refugee camps, and still in the conflict zone, displaced by bombings from the assad regime. the ambassador told me this is their only hope for survival. >> what is your reaction, seeing this, having gone inside and talked to the aide workers. we can't reveal pictures because it's so dangerous. >> i have two reactions.
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i am so thankful we have these people who are working here. what i said to them was we can bring money, but money doesn't matter if you don't have people who are committed, passionate, who understand the work. i am so thankful that we have them. but i'm also feeling a sense of desperation because they feel a sense of desperation with the concern that there is a chance this one border crossing that we have been seeing today, but this crossing could be closed. i had been really spurred to work as hard as i can to do everything i can to keep this border open, but also to open the two borders that were closed. what they do saves lives. and we have to continue to help them do that. >> you've said this in new york at the security council,
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secretary blinken addressed it in march. how is it different seeing these people with your own eyes. >> you see the reality of what they are doing and how complicated what they are doing is. seeing just the transfer of food from one truck to another. seeing how many people are required to do this work. it's life and death. >> on top of war which continues as we speak. there is covid. how does that add to the dimension of this crisis? >> it makes delivering of humanitarian assistance more complicated. but for the refugees, here is what i heard today. it's just another reason to die. >> another reason to die? >> another reason to die. it's just added on top of starvation, violence, desperation, another reason to die.
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and we don't want people to have another reason to die. >> what is your message when you go back to russia about their stated opposition to keeping this last crossing open? >> you know, i think i have a very positive message for my russian counterpart. i have seen firsthand the importance of this border crossing. and the needs that are being addressed in this border crossing. you don't want on your shoulders the desperation of the people on the other side of the border. i can describe to him what that desperation looks like. >> and this is is the only way that covid vaccines will get into these people? >> right now this is the only waco individual vaccines can get across the border. we know there are areas in syria where covid vaccines have not
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been distributed, in the northeast for example. >> to when the russians say give it to damascus, the regime will distribute it to these people here. it is possible that some aid will be distributed through damascus, but we are providing assistance to people who may not get that assistance. those across line mechanisms are not working. if we are providing humanitarian assistance -- i announced $239 million, almost a quarter of a million dollars, if we are giving that, we want to be sure it gets to where it's directed. >> we are talking about people
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here in the northwest region who assad viewed as his opponents and bombed. that's why they are displaced and living in tents. >> exactly. >> this is an issue, we have been told, that the president will raise with vladimir putin at the summit. >> i don't have the agenda for the president's meeting. >> but if he does. >> i know the president is strongly committed to seeing this operation continue. secretary blinken is committed. i'm committed. so everything -- we will do everything from the highest levels down to my level to continue this. i can't preview what is on the agenda, but i know in terms of our own discussions with the russians, this is on the agenda. >> you served in rwanda during genocide. you have been in pakistan.
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all over africa. in afghanistan under taliban rule. what you are seeing here, what you are hearing, how does that compare to all of the disaster zones you have experienced yourself? >> i think the scale here is more than anything i have ever experienced before. but the desperation is the same desperation. the needs are exactly the same. the emotions are the same. i am still reminded of my very first visit to a refugee camp when i saw a baby die in front of my eyes from starvation. that feeling never goes away. the emotions never go away. and i feel those emotions today. and to the people back in the -- and to the people back in the u.s. concerned about their own jobs, about the pandemic,
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what do you say to them and about leading a role? >> the president started with making sure every american was vaccinated. but he also understood if we are to be safe from covid and we are to remain committed to our own values, that we have to support these efforts as well. >> andrea, thank you. you can see much more of andrea's interview tonight on "nbc nightly news" with lester holt and tomorrow morning on "today." unlikely allies. israeli leaders reaching a late night deal that could out benjamin netanyahu and bring a new leader, the first in decades. dtd dt
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be headed for two years by neftali bennett. kelly, how did this team of rye rivals bringing together everybody come together? >> they were brought together by the desire to unseat benjamin netanyahu. some of them even ran on that platform in the last election. the current defense minister under netanyahu is visiting the united states right now, meeting with secretary of state tony blinken said from the outset that he would not join a netanyahu government. he was in a presser with the secretary of state earlier today. ignored some shoutout questions about whether or not this coalition will hold. that is the question of the day. it has to hold long enough for
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there to be a vote confirming the government in the israeli parliament. it could take up to a week or a little longer for that vote to be called. just to give you an idea of who these people are. i am going to show you some names. his name has come up before. he is a tv host who brought all of these parties together. four of those names may sound familiar to americans. they have all been in prominent positions in the israeli government and were former ally is of netanyahu to now. there is a leader of a labor party, socialist party and the arab party. very diverse group of politicians and their party members involved in this coalition. already netanyahu and his allies are starting to pile on the pressure especially those farther to the right to have joined this coalition -- he has
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actually tweeted today in one tweet accusing neftali bennett, his former defense minister of selling out to the arab party. also saying that all right wing members must leave this coalition. the intense pressure being brought to bear on these right wing politicians is pretty bad. they are going to have to with stand it for a few days in order for this coalition to hold. even protesters were outside their front doors. some of them have been given extra security because of the intensity, the passions running very high among netanyahu's base and allies are really piling on the pressure as well, trying to break up this coalition before they can vote on it. >> kelly, thank you for that.
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joining me now is ben rhodes, author of a new book "after the fall." neftali bennett said sunday this diverse coalition is about stopping the madness in israeli politics. when you look at others who say this group of people trying to govern is madness. does this create fragility for netanyahu to make a comeback? >> chris, there have been four elections in israel in the last couple years because there has been incapacity of people to form a government after elections. one reason for that is netanyahu himself. he is facing corruption charges. there is a belief i think among opponents who formed this
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coalition that netanyahu was using his position as prime minister to shield himself from accountability of those charges. if they can get the vote, it will be a fragile government because it won't have a strong mandate. it will bring together people who disagree about fundamental issues. but what they agree on is they want to turn the page on this 12-year era of netanyahu. they are thinking maybe they will have a better chance in a post-election environment. >> they didn't want to have any comment. the biden administration has been quiet, but do you think anybody will be sad to see him go after netanyahu was add odds with the obama administration
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and biden administration and open arms with trump. >> around the nuclear deal, he spoke to congress without notifying the obama administration which included tony blinken. and the full embrace of donald trump. i think they would expect shifts. neftali bennett is a right wing figure himself. with the big initiatives like the israeli/palestinian peace efforts. it may be easier for them to make peace with iran. netanyahu wanted to stay at odds with iran. >> i don't recall a calm
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response when netanyahu came to address congress, but that was another life ago when we were both at the white house. this can always spill over into active conflict. how do you see the u.s. relationship with him developing? >> it's complicated. he was once a netanyahu ally so he's not someone -- in the past he has made statements opposing a two-state solution which is u.s. government policy. he is not likely to be a close partner on things like pursuing palestinian state hood or underlying circumstances like gaza that led to recent criticism of the gaza war. he is not the only one calling
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the shots. so i think he will be out of step on the palestinian issue, but this will be a real coalition. these parties will get ministries that reflect this right-left spectrum of all of the people that come together here. while bennett may be someone who is a challenge in trying to advance a palestinian state, i think the u.s. government will have lots of different lines in to lots of different israeli political figures. israel may be headed to another full election before the full tenure of israeli government runs its course. >> i want to ask you, ben, about russia. i am sure you heard that the united states is saying to all businesses, large and small, to
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look out. that cyber attacks will continue, it's not if, but when. >> if you are sitting in the biden situation you are thinking this is untenable. one of the levers we have to deescalate this is impose such a coston russia they don't pursue this. this is a mix of sanctions, going after some of the dark money that finances the putin government. also the u.s. considering its own offensive cyber operations against russia, that there can be tit for tat and russia doesn't want to go down that road. the reason i think the biden wanted to have the summit was to have the conversation of look, you don't want to go down this road. if you go down this road, there will be more sanctions. better for us to work on
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something where we get off the escalation cycle. the challenge with that is that vladimir putin tends to ignore those efforts. it's worth testing and i think that's what president biden will do june 16. >> ben's new book -- it's out this week. help wanted. how one country is getting creative in it's tempt to bring back workers. plus, what is causing the lag? it might be different than what you think. erent than what you think. snacks that taste great, and come straight from the earth. and last time i checked, pretzels don't grow on trees. just saying. planters. a nut above. my dvt blood clot left me with questions... was another around the corner? or could i have a different game plan? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot.
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rock hotel and casino is holding a job fair where they are offering $300 bonus to new employees after 90 days. it is an effort to fill 500 positions across the company. good morning, shaq, how is the turnout so far? >> so far it is light but it is just the first of a series of job fares we will see over the next couple days and months. they are wrapping things up so it is a smaller crowd with what you will see. right now they are trying to fill about 80 positions focused on hospitality. later this week they are going to have a fair with about 500 people where they are trying to hire 500 people. incentives, people who apply and get the job today, they will get a $300 sign on bonus. they also get free meals for
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every shift and they are highlighting work schedules. i want you to listen to one of the conversations from this morning. they talk about unemployment insurance, but listen why gustavo came out this morning. >> i took the vaccine. i feel okay. it has been almost a month since i took the vaccine. i have no identify effects. i feel strong. >> that makes you more comfortable to go back to work? >> oh, yeah. i feel like i'm protected now. i feel like i'm okay. >> you heard him mention the vaccine. gustavo said he spent a year in colombia after a job at a cruise port. he spent a year there. and you heard the $300 unemployment insurance.
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that sending in florida at the end of the month. another reason pore the potential cause in this labor crunch is a shift in employees perspective. look at the numbers from the pugh research study. 66% of unemployed americans have seriously considered changing their occupation or field of work. another field of study that 72% of unemployed americans are reevaluating the skill set. yes, it is unemployment insurance, and also vaccinations more widely available and people are interested in different things, different jobs. that's all leading to this labor crunch and leading to big incentives that you have places like casinos, hotels, other hospitality employers. at another job fair about a week ago they were raffling off a
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mustang. so there are big incentives being offered. >> joining me is jason furman, from harvard kennedy school and university and served under president obama. that was a sparse crowd in spite of the incentives. a staggering number, 2/3 of adults seriously considering changing their field of work. even restaurants finally reopening are struggling to staff up. what do you think is going on, jason? >> i think there are three things going on. it always takes time for people to be matched up and paired with jobs. you put the entire economy to sleep, it doesn't wake up and run america according to the
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current chair of economic factors. and year of the virus. hearing from gustavo, that was great to hear. people have gotten their shots, they feel safe returning to work. finally, no doubt that unemployment insurance has enabled people to find jobs. that's good. no need to rush into things prematurely, but there will be a downside and we need to get that right. >> many states are planning to end the $300 in unemployment benefits before they expire in september. in florida it is set to expire on june 26. where do you sit on this expanded unemployment. ultimately, do you think some of the folks who decided not to come back to work will continue to not come back to work? >> the second question, that's a
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worry. we don't know the answer. we haven't gone through a pandemic where the economy was shut down for a year. the longer someone is unemployed, the harder it is to find a job. their and that's what we're trying to avoid. what i wish we had done was had a system of triggers, as the unemployment rate fell in your state, the number would be phased down, not to zero, but phased down with a smooth glide path. now we're left with an unattractive choice, continuing something designed for a massive pandemic killing 3,000 people a day, because that's what this was designed for, or get rid of it entirely and leave people with very little notice on a lurch. i don't think either of those are appealing. i can think of constructive ideas like a hiring bonus is a better way to go. >> there was a statement out from the u.s. chamber of commerce saying the u.s. situation in hiring workers is a
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national emergency. they kind of indicated we potentially are looking at a situation where businesses were closing down because they didn't have business during the pandemic. to a place, and i've actually seen this with, for example, local restaurants who cannot get staff so are cutting back the number of days they're open that maybe we're going to a place because of lack of workers, businesses might have to shut down. do you think that's a real concern here or do you think give it a couple months and it will sort of settle out? >> i think the main cure here is time. time will help on the virus, it will help on unemployment insurance, to the degree of childcare issues. i actually don't think that's a large part of what's going on t will help on that as well. so the main thing we need to do is be patient. hiring bonuses can help. if you're a very low unemployment state to change ui
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now, that makes sense. it can last a couple months and ending in september. >> if that's short term, we only have 30 seconds left, long term what do you think the impact will be? are we going to see a situation where 66% who are considering switching jobs, significant portion of people might actually do that? >> i think you will see some job switching. i think you will see some people coming back at higher wages but our economy is looking an awful lot like it did before covid and then slowly building back a better process but you don't land in a place where you took off. >> jason furman, thank you very much. appreciate it. meantime nursing homes and assisted living facilities that were, of course, zround zero for covid when the virus first gripped the country last year are seeing even though cases dropped dramatically, there are still hundreds of reported deaths of covid in those
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facilities each week. the cdc is pointing to low vaccination rates among nursing home staff for those scattered outbreaks. u our anchor is outside in chatham, new jersey. good to see you, my friend. you and i both know the health care community is not immune to vaccine hesitancy. what are nursing home facilities doing about that, and by extension, control the scattered outbreaks due to unvaccinated staffers? >> they're taking a couple different approaches here. talk about ground zero being nursing home facilities, assisted living facilities. nationwide, if we can put this number one, 13,000 residents died at nursing home facilities and 1,900 work in those facilities. if you look in the state of new jersey, where i am right now, 80% of the residents in these facilities have been vaccinated. 60% though of staff members have been vaccinated.
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think about the disparity in that and overall numbers of folks who died in nursing home facilities over the last year in the state of new jersey, 8,000, those are some big numbers. u they're willing to tackle this head on. the governor of new jersey saying they need to get more staff members vaccinated and have a campaign to get more staff vaccinated as well. the worse combination is a new variant and an immunocompromised resident, if you have one person not vaccinated and a small cluster outbreak in residents and when those interact with an immunocompromised resident, that can be a bad combination. i spoke with the founder and ceo of juniper facilities, and here's what she had to say about the efforts being done to get more folks vaccinated. i'm going to follow that up with advocate for nursing home facilities. take a listen. >> earn wanted this to end. we needed to see hope, light at
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the end of the tunnel. so vaccination for our entire team was we believed that light at the end of the tunnel. we made that decision collectively. >> putting something into somebody's body against their will as a condition of employment is a slippery slope and it's one i'm afraid i don't want to see the nursing home industry, assisted living industry or employee numbers go down. >> it so, two different opinions there, right? hearing from lynn there for instance, she said it's not necessarily a requirement you have to get vaccined to work here. there are exceptions f. you have a medical exemption, you don't have to necessarily get vaccinated. but brian saying it's a slippery slope, right, to require folks to get vaccinated. so this is why it's an uphill battle to make sure they're keeping folks signed these facilities as safe as possible and navigating this new area. >> it's an important story we will continue to follow s
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