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good afternoon, everyone. i'm aman in new york. the biden administration is taking a big step towards fulfilling its commitment to fill 80 million vaccine doses this month. vaccines approved for use here in the united states will now soon be shipped to countries in asia, africa and south and central america. national security adviser jake sullivan is saying this is just one part of a larger global effort. >> we're also working with our g7 partners on a larger effort to help end the pandemic so the world democracies deliver for people everywhere. >> and president biden is in rehoboth beach, delaware, for the first lady's 70th birthday today adds as he prepares for a
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one on one. the lead negotiator is hammering out a bipartisan infrastructure bill. both sides seemed optimistic about it. >> this has been a good discussion and good ongoing discussion where we've -- we're working to find areas of agreement. we also feel there are a number of paths forward. >> we're still hoping we can come to an agreement on a fully paid for and significant infrastructure package. >> and out of tomorrow's may jobs report, we learned that just 385,000 americans filed new unemployment claims last week. that's the first time that that number has been below 400,000 since the start of the pandemic. joining us off to start things this hour, nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell travelling with the president in rehoboth beach, delaware. and msnbc political contributor. kelly, we'll start with you and this news to take on the global fight, if you will, against the pandemic. how much say does the united
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states have in where these doses are going and are there any plans to add more to the 80 million doses the u.s. has already pledged to donate? >> the expectation is more doses would be likely down the line, but this first plan does a couple of things, by giving a large number of the doses to what's known as covax which is the united nations plan to distribute these vaccines in what the administration says will be an equitable and fair fashion which deals with needs and science. that sort of takes it out of the hands of the united states. but the u.s. is holding back with 25 million doses where they will be able to give those to partner and neighbor countries, they say. and to be able to make some short-term decisions. one example of that is doses that will be going out tonight to south korea. not long ago, the south korean president was meeting with president biden. they are, of course, a very
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close ally to the united states. that is one example of being able to use these to support friends who have needs. the white house is saying they are not going to be doing this with an expectation of something back or as a lever to try to get things from other countries, but claim that what they are trying to do is to deal with the fires around the world coming from covid in order to try to reduce the variants and the mutations that could continue to be a threat to the u.s. and simply because they say it's the right thing to do. the u.s. program on vaccines has been so success. . now, part of the criticism that's already coming from republicans including nebraska senator ben sass is that by using the u.n. program that it is reducing sort of the good will of the united states of being able to more directly give these doses around the world. this is a logistics herculean task to be sure, but ben sass is saying the u.s. is losing some of the credit by not taking a more direct u.s. approach. so that's just some of what
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we're hearing today. beyond that, of course, it's about trying to help others around the world in order to at some point tamp down the pandemic. the president says until the world is safe, the u.s. continues to have some risk for those who are not yet vaccinated. aman? >> jake, let's talk a little about infrastructure here. the white house is waiting for a counteroffer, if you will, from senate republicans. both sides at least publicly sounding hopeful, appearing to be hopeful, while this agreement continues to be hashed out. but did yesterday's meeting between the president and west virginia senator shelley morkapito, really help move the needle? are these good faith negotiations by the republicans or could one or both sides be on the verge of walking away? what are you hearing? >> how about both sides walk away, aman? i just don't see -- i think they're just miles apart. i might be eating my words in a day or so, but i really don't think the white house wants to
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pay for this by raising taxes. democrats suggest that they want to pay for it -- sorry, senate republicans suggest they want to pay for it by using unspent covid money. covid money that in many cases has been allocated to states. i don't get really how you bridge that gap. i don't see that. and then if this goes back to the senate, there's going to be a whole other mountain of disagreements between the rank and file and the leadership and the people that negotiated it. i just think, aman, it's -- they need a path forward by monday, and i just don't think they're going to get it. >> i know that earlier in the week, jake, house speaker nancy pelosi laid out four options for the democrats' next step on investigating the january 6th riot, something that is very important for congress. certainly the democratic party within congress. they are pushing for another vote in the senate on an independent commission, appointing a select committee similar to what republicans did with benghazi, letting various house committees continue their own investigations or allowing just one committee, perhaps the
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homeland security committee, to take charge on that front. what are you hearing about where democrats are likely to go president-elect from those options? >> vast majority of democrats, aman, want a select committee. it would allow nancy pelosi to have the majority of control over who is in charge of this investigation and who is at the steering wheel, so to speak, and conducting these probes. there are a few democrats who suggest they want this to stay in the committees where there is a lot of expertise, homeland security committee chaired by bennie thompson of mississippi. that's a popular option. but i would say that a special committee, a lot -- a select committee, a lot of democrats feel like that gives this investigation heft, that it doesn't otherwise have. that it's really focused on this terrible calamitous event at the capitol. do they appoint people? do they ignore it, who do they appoint to the committee? how do they handle it, like the democrats did benghazi?
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a lot of questions outstanding in the next -- frankly, aman, this is something we're going to have to talk about next week. democrats are going to need to find a way forward or this will boil over. >> thanks to the both of you for starting us off this hour. overseas where, after four elections and two years, israel is on the brink of having a new prime minister. on wednesday an unlikely coalition of a political party spanning from the left wing, right wing nationalists and arab islamist party signing onto a agreement they will see the country's longest serving leader benjamin netanyahu removed from office. before it becomes officials israel's parliament needs to vote on it. it is expected to pass within the next two weeks. even as the country awaits that final approval, israeli media reports naftali bennett who is poised to become the next leader, has been given full prime minister ministerial protection. also with us is senior
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contributing editor for the jerusalem post. kelly, let's begin with you. give us the update on the latest on the political front. >> yeah, aman, there's been a lot of political maneuvering today in regards to that date for when the parliament will vote on this coalition, when they will formally ratify the coalitions. as you know, that has to happen by june 14th by law. the person who sets the date, though, is the speaker of the parliament. he's a staunch supporter of benjamin netanyahu's. it is in benjamin netanyahu's interest to stretch that out as long as possible so that he can have the best possible chance of maybe picking off some of these members of the coalition, getting them to agree not to vote in favor of the new government, hoping to disrupt a little bit here. so today we've seen some political maneuvering as i mentioned, trying to replace the speaker of the parliament, and
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have the coalition put in their own guy so that they can move up that date. there's been nothing definitive yet. caness et is back in session monday. we still don't have a date for when that vote takes place, aman. >> there have been rumors for years and certainly attempts politically about prime minister netanyahu's imminent departure from office as we mentioned, four elections in the last two years. but now it appears, at least, it will actually happen. what changed this time around, if anything, or is it just a matter of political luck and time running out for benjamin netanyahu? >> i think that because we had four elections in a row and he wasn't able to build a stable coalition, after the third election, it didn't last very long. it was paralyzed and unstable. it got to a point where a lot of people -- enough people on the right felt that netanyahu just
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can't stay in power any more, that he's not able to form the government that israel needs. and the keys to this government, there were about two makers. one is naftali bennett who is likely to become prime minister. there are two other right wing parties in this coalition that is being formed. it's a very varied coalition, as you said. it runs the gamut from the far-right to the far left. there are three right wing parties there, and they are all led by people who used to work closely with netanyahu, but have since decided that netanyahu is no longer fit to be leader. >> kelly, what's been the reaction there in tel aviv among ordinary israelis you are speaking to? do they think that this perhaps new government is actually going to deliver any change beyond simply ousting netanyahu? >> there's not a lot of talk about whether or not this government will actually last. i think there's a lot of relief on the part of the people we
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talked to that a government is simply going to be in place after, you know, four years -- two years, four elections. but in terms of the long-term issues, long-term stability, whether or not this government will be able to form -- will be able to pass a budget, whether they'll be able to actually accomplish anything domestically, people are a little bit unsure. they're not quite convinced, i don't think, this government, this coalition government will be able to sit maybe for the entire four years. but really more than that, what we're hearing is just the sense of relief, you know, a feeling like it's time for netanyahu to move on. the country needs to move on, and we're relieved that we don't have to go to the polls, at least we don't think so just yet. >> lahav, the poll will have to be approved by parliament before it becomes official. are there any ways they can bend the coalition?
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are there any last-minute changes besides the vote itself that could prevent this from happening? >> so, in naftali bennett's party, there are some shaky votes. there is already somebody who didn't want to vote to replace the speaker, naftali mentioned the speakers are key to making the vote happen. and so there are a couple people in bennett's party that are flight risks, let's say. and a similar thing happened 30 years ago when shimon perez said he would form a government. by the time the vote rolled around, people decided not to vote for him and they supported lee kudem and he formed that coalition. it is possible history will repeat itself and netanyahu will pull out all the stops to try to make that happen. and it's shaky, it's a shaky coalition. >> i was going to say shaky and uncertain for sure.
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let me ask you quirkily, lahav, personally for netanyahu, if he is not the prime minister as we've been saying most likely he will not be, what happens to him future, both in israeli politics and personally as a private citizen? >> so, my understanding is that netanyahu, if he doesn't remain prime minister which is what seems likely, he will go -- become opposition leader, which in israel is someone with an official title and you have the sort of status almost of a cabinet minister. the reason that he's willing to do that is because this coalition is so diverse that there's a lot of skepticism and it won't last very long. if he's on the coalition side and what he perceives is the problems with this coalition, then maybe he can rise up again very soon. >> all right. lahav harkov in tel aviv and kelly cobiella also in tel aviv, thank you for this story.
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now to breaking news from florida where republican congressman matt gaetz's legal troubles appear to be mounting. federal prosecutors are looking into whether gaetz who currently sits on the judiciary committee obstructed justice with a phone call he had with a witness in the investigation into whether he committed sex crimes. a spokesperson said in the statement, he pursues justice. he doesn't obstruct it. the statement went on to say, after two months there is still not a single on-record accusation of misconduct and now the story is changing yet again. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us from
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washington with more on this. pete, good to have you with us. how serious are things getting for gaetz? >> hard to say what this means, whether it makes anything more serious or not because we don't know all the facts here. what we do know is pretty bare bones, that a woman that was an ex-girlfriend of gaetz was talking to another witness, a young woman, at some point the ex-girlfriend conferenced matt gaetz into the call, you have a call in which gaetz is talking with this young woman who is a potential witness. that's what they're looking at would constitute obstruction of justice. there are several things we obviously don't know here. one is what did they talk about? that's pretty important. secondly, when was the call made. it may make a difference whether the call was before or after congressman gaetz knew that he was under investigation or knew that this woman could be a potential witness in the
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criminal case. so that's the basic structure of what we know about what this -- why they are looking at obstruction, but how serious it is for him, we just don't know all the facts to be able to make that conclusion. >> all right. pete williams live in d.c. for us. pete, thanks for that update. and today marks exactly seven months since the 2020 presidential election and the republican party's elaborate efforts to question the results of president biden's well-established 7 million-vote victory, could be expanding. three republican pennsylvania state lawmakers traveled to arizona yesterday where they met with the state's gop legislators about their months' long examination of ballots and voting machines in search of fraud, which recounts and legitimate audits ruled out last year. the group from pennsylvania is calling for a similar review to the one taking place in arizona. and it was late last year when a group of pennsylvania lawmakers held a meeting which they dubbed a hearing on voter fraud. president trump made an
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appearance by phone, you may recall. joining me now is washington post political investigative reporter roselyn helderman. it's great to have you with us. your reporting today about how fixateds former president trump is on the 2020 election, certainly some of his allies as well, and he believes he'll be reinstated. what more can you tell us about that? >> yeah, we've been reporting for a little while now he is incredibly fixated on these audits that his supporters are trying to get launched around the country. there is the one underway in arizona, which is a partisan audit being run by private companies that appear to be looking for things to say were wrong with the election, folks who had previously expressed their view that the election was stolen from trump. and, you know, he now believes -- he has been persuaded by people around him and it's what he himself wants to believe, that these things are going to break out all over the country.
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georgia is going to do one, pennsylvania is going to do one, wisconsin, michigan, and that somehow through some extra legal process, this is going to result in him returning to the white house. >> yeah, so speaking of the people around him, do we have an idea who they are? who are the people that are actually feeding these conspiracies to the former president? >> yeah, so, we understand that some of the former president's aides are opposed to this and are trying to get him to focus, not on the election, but instead on the future. but he has been spending time talking to folks like mike lindell, the former c.e.o. -- sorry, the current c.e.o. of the mypillow company who has been at the forefront of these conspiracy theories. he's also talking to one of the state senators that you mentioned from pennsylvania, doug mastraono. and the host from one america news network which has been
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covering the arizona audit very hard. this particular host is also privately raising money to fund the audit. so she's got a lot of roles going on there. >> how much effort is the president personally putting in and trying to get more of these audits that you were talking about in some of these other states up and running? do you know how involved he is? or is he just kind of speaking to his own bubble of allies in mar-a-lago? >> i don't know that our reporting shows that he is taking sort of a personal role in trying to get them done. what we understand is that he is fixated on it and talking about it constantly. when people try -- my colleague josh dosey reported a conversation where one of his aides was trying to get him to focus on a conversation about who to endorse for 2022, and the former president could not be persuaded to stick to that subject, but just kept returning again and again to the subject
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of his own election, and these various audits and what's going on in various states around the country. >> all right. rosalind helderman, greatly appreciate your reporting this afternoon. coming up, syrian refugees. andrea mitchell joins us next with her exclusive interview with the ambassador to the united nations as she visits the turkey/syria border. you're watching ayman mohyeldin reports. hyeldin reports. (vo) nobody builds 5g like verizon builds 5g.
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today in an exclusive interview with nbc news, u.n. ambassador linda thomas greenfield said she'll tell her russian counterparts the last crossing into syria must remain open. russia threaten today stop cut off aid many of whom reported to the united nations depend on the united nations to meet their basic needs. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell spoke to the ambassador earlier. we're going to have that sound for you in just a moment. but it was a very important trip -- okay, let's hear it right now. >> reporter: this is known as
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.0. this gate is open. that is syria. i'm standing on turkish land. here turkey is working with the u.n. and the u.s. to try to keep this crossing open. russia is trying to close it. this is what she is here to describe. she is talking to refugees. she's talking to non-governmental workers. she's getting briefed by the u.n. but this is the important critical message she's trying to bring back to the security council of the united nations, that millions of people right there in syria down that road will be dying from starvation, from violence, from hunger and other privations, and from anything else, covid. that is what needs to get through. food, cement for shelter, vaccines, the little that have come so far, and now she's announced $239 million in
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additional usa i.d. money, u.s. aid that is going to get to these people, but not -- not if russia decides next month that this last corridor into the refugee camps -- and there are more than a thousand refugee camps over there and still in a conflict zone, people who have been displaced by bombings, airstrikes from the assad regime -- that this is their only hope as the u.n. ambassador told me, their only hope for survival. it's life and death on top of war, which continues as we speak. there's covid. how does that add to the dimensions of this crisis? >> it certainly makes delivering of humanitarian assistance more complicated. but for the refugees, here's what i heard today. it's just another reason to die. >> reporter: another reason to die? >> another reason to die.
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so it's just added on top of starvation, violence, desperation. another reason to die. >> all right. let's bring into the conversation now from turkey, andrea mitchell. andrea, good to have you with us. thank you for that incredible reporting. help us understand why this message from the ambassador is so important right now. as you mentioned russia is obviously in control of that situation. but what is it the international community can do to prevent russia from vetoing any efforts to shut it down? >> reporter: the international community, shedding a spotlight on it as she is today, bringing that message back to the security council, can try to shame russia into backing down from the threat. the president, president biden plans to bring it up with vladimir putin in two weeks in geneva at their summit. if russia persists, this will end the last remaining border crossing and there were three before that were closed because
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of pressure, because russia vetoed further extensions, and this one expires on june 10th -- excuse me, july 10th. i just got back from the border, by the way. it has been, you know, quite a trip where the ambassador went, you know, all over the region meeting with refugees and aid workers and the administrator from the u.n. mark kutz, who is an extremely experienced veteran of u.n. relief. he's never seen anything like this because it's all happening, the starvation, the privation, in the middle of a war. that's what we tend to forget. not you, ayman. the airstrikes just in the recent months, airstrikes, we saw the rubble there from what was shot by an nbc team. it's just extraordinary. and russia is trying to prop up assad who has now regained control of 70% of the country.
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russia is, you know, backing assad, and wants this aid instead to come through damascus. i talked to one of the young guys from the white helmets today who met with ambassador thomas greenfield. if we go to damascus, we will see none of it. they'll substitute bad medicine for the real medicine, covid medicine. they'll skim it off, assad will never let us have it. this is a people opposed to assad and they are being punished for it. he bombed them out of their homes and they're left living in tents. >> to that point, andrea, this was has been going on for ten years. did you get a sense from the ambassador, from your reporting with this administration that they want to do something about the war itself? i know that we're focusing on the humanitarian crisis. do you get a sense there is any diplomatic initiative to try and resolve what has been taking place in syria internationally over the past ten years? i know president assad claimed he won victory again with 95% of
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the vote. but that doesn't give confidence to the people that you were speaking to that this war may be ending any time soon. >> reporter: yeah, well, they have not appointed an envoy for syria. that is sitting waiting to happen. there is no one engaging in the political process. at this stage we have very little leverage because assad really thinks he's won and he's got russia helping him. they're starving these people out. but that is really what is likely needed. i suspect because of her experience in decades of working on refugee issues and humanitarian issues and from the effort she's put into this today, she may be leading the charge. the difference is she is a cabinet member. she's in the national security council. she's in washington a lot. and i think she's got the president's ear. >> all right. we'll see how that plays out. andrea mitchell in turkey for us. andrea, thank you so much. as always. of course, you can see much more of andrea's interview with linda thomas greenfield tonight on
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because of his work schedule. it was the lottery that pushed him to get it. the new father plans to use his winnings to buy his family a new home. many health care workers on the front lines of the pandemic spent months separated from their families afraid to bring the virus home and get their loved ones sick, yet vaccine hesitancy remains high in that industry with a recent study showing nearly half of all health care workers still aren't vaccinated. while weekly nursing home deaths have sharply declined from more than 10,000 at the beginning of the year to about 200 now, there's still a lot of concern about scattered outbreaks due to unvaccinated staffers. joining me now from an assisted living facility in chatham, new jersey, is msnbc's yasmin . how are they handling vaccine hesitancy among the staff? i think a lot of people who would be watching this would be surprised the health care workers are the ones reluctant to get the vaccine. >> i have to say i was surprised
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when i found out, when i was assigned this story. it's a battle. if you think about it, places like the one behind me, they've been ground zero over the last year. think about the number of deaths, 130,000 plus people have died from covid-19. 2,000 of them staff members. on the microcosm, the state of new jersey where i am, the disparity of the vaccinations is huge in this state, ayman. just 60% of staff members in these facilities have been vaccinated. and you think about these micro cluster of outbreaks. if you have one covid positive staff member that walks into one of these facilities, by the way, with a variant because we know there are so many variants out there. and subsequently a resident who has been vaccinated by the way then tests covid positive, that's called a breakthrough infection. that could set off a micro cluster of infections.
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that is really bad for facilities like the one behind me. i spoke to lynn katzman, one you of the communities behind me, how it is they're combatting this. take a listen. >> we needed to see hope, light at the end of the tunnel. vaccination for our entire team was, we believe, that light at the end of the tunnel. >> reporter: and have you lost employees? >> we have lost just over 1% of our employees. 30 people out of 25 communities. >> reporter: interestingly enough, you have not had one death in this facility since april? >> that's correct. >> reporter: so, they actually haven't had an outbreak since april of 2020 because of the measures they put in place, ayman. the bad news here is essentially they're talking about the fact that it's really not that bad in a lot of these facilities. if they require folks to get vaccines in some of these facilities, they worry folks are going to leave.
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there is already a shortage of health care workers in some of these facilities, nursing facilities. the good news is there is a federal program that's going to be put out in just a couple weeks in which these facilities behind me are going to have to include all the people vaccinated, staff members and residents. if you're a family member of one of the folks living here, you can advocate on behalf of your family member, i want more people vaccinated. they put pressure on their staff members to get vaccinated. >> incredible insight there to see the hesitancy among staffers. yasmin in new jersey for us. thank you as always. joining me now is associate dean of cincinnati medical college of medicine. it's great to have you back on the program. we heard the devastating stories from health care workers. some were sleeping in garages, afraid to hug their kids in fear of infecting them, some were staying in hotels for weeks on end. why the vaccine hesitancy among health care workers this late in
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the game? >> ayman, these are the same hesitancy concerns that the general population has. that's what we've been finding out in the data. we're waiting to see how things are going to go with everybody else. am i going to have time off paid for? if i have symptoms after i get my second shot, things like that. >> you would think they would be exposed to more of the data and science to answer some of the hesitancy that perhaps the general public is just not hearing as directly. i know that vaccinations, doctor, were on the decline, but that leveled off when the cdc dropped mask mandates for the vaccinated. in many localities followed suit. what risk does hesitancy among the health care community, the people we turn to for their expertise, have been affecting the general public's vaccination rates? when you're hearing your neighbor who perhaps may be a front line worker, health care worker, i don't want to get it, i don't think it's safe? >> that's a very good point. i think the big issue here is
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the longer that we have folks that are not vaccinated, the more likely we're going to have variants for now. the pandemic is going to continue to go on. and our immunizations, particularly the covid vaccines are not going to be as effective as they otherwise be. >> pfizer, moderna applied for full approval of their vaccines. i'm curious to get your thoughts. could full approval make it easier for health care facilities to get staffers to get vaccinated? do you think that's part of the vaccine hesitancy? or is that just a bit of smoke right now for them? >> yeah, i think, ayman, there are three different things that will help us get to herd immunity. fda approval is one of those. the kaiser family foundation data does say 32% of those not vaccinated would go ahead and get vaccinated if it was fda approved. there's another 10 to 15% say they would respond to some of the incentives like the ones we have here in ohio and with the vax-a-million. the other is making sure we
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involve primary care because, again, we go ahead and do 200 million vaccines routinely every single year, and helping to get people across the line and get to herd immunity, it may take a physician that you've had a great relationship with and long-term trials to get you over that line. >> you probably saw the beginning of the segment i talked about the ohio man who won the vax-a-million lottery in ohio. how effective do you think these types of incentives are? >> so, initially when we started out, ohio started very early with the incentive, for four years of college and $1 million for five people, we weren't quite sure how that was going to work. it literally has taken hold in other states. and i think that with president biden's push for the next month, incentives are just going to increase. how folks get interested, it depends what the incentive is. >> everything from dollars to
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beer and everything in between. always a pleasure. thank you for joining us this hour. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and coming up, israeli opposition parties are pushing for a quick vote to confirm their coalition and oust prime minister benjamin netanyahu. after the break i'll be joined by a member of one of those parties to discuss what comes next. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." switch. her skin was always beautiful. i wanted her skin to glow just like mine. it feels moisturized and clean at the same time. my friend stefanie, her skin was dry. i'm like girl you better get you some dove. she hooked me up. stefanie only uses dove now. i use the dove beauty bar everyday. made with a quarter moisturising cream. dove beauty bar is care you'll want to share. it makes you glow. look at me. dove cleans effectively and cares beautifully. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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we are watching the latest developments in israel where a coalition government is set to unseat long time prime minister netanyahu. israeli defense minister gantz is meeting. joining me now is a member of the knesset. and someone that could serb in a senior role in this new government. thank you so much for your time. i want to start with the formation of this government because the outgoing potentially prime minister ben yeah min netanyahu is calling on lawmakers to oppose this quote dangerous left wing government. do you think you can keep the coalition together for the long
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term? >> yes. i'm very confident that our partners and us we can carry out this procedure of forming this government. this is not a left wing or a right wing coalition. this is a moderate coe legislation of unity. we have parties of all walks of politics. in israel we have left, central and right and i believe this is what the people of israel need and want at this point. >> i know that the speaker levin is a member of netanyahu's party and could use parliament procedures to delay to june 14th. do you think the alliance could withstand the pressure of waiting until june 14? >> hopefully we will not have to wait much longer because we are very determined to replace the speaker of our parliament as soon as possible and move
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forward with forming this coalition and getting our government sworn in. it is a matter of technicality. we have the votes, the great partners and all partners have gone a long way and are very determined to see it through. >> yeah. speaking of that determination, under the new coalition agreement neftali bennett will be prime minister for two years. does that concern you even if it was temporary? you talked about the spectrum of ideology but i'm curious your thoughts on the alliance and what they want for the future of israel. >> well, you know, forming this coalition has taken a while now. and we had a chance to work with all of our partners and see that it's really working together. i know that some are viewing the potential obstacles and hurdles but i'm very confident we can
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make it through because what israel needs right now and we have seen it in the past few months, is mainly to rebuild the economy after the covid-19 crisis and to mend some crucial internal rifts in the society and the people of israel are very -- looking forward for a change and this is what this government is offering them so people are used to the determining that a coalition is left or right but we are offering unity. this is what israel needs at this point. >> speaking of some challenges that israel faces, there are the skeptics saying that much won't change under this new coalition government. do you believe that given the divisions as we outlined anything can change on the external relations? for example, the palestinians and those living under israeli rule, will the system change if
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bennett is the prime minister for two years coming the palestinians? >> all the main guidelines and outloons of this administration have been discussed obviously. this will be a coalition of moderation and compromise and compromise is a good thing. speaking as a member of the centrist party i believe that compromise is an essential part of politics and of making change and we have much to do in the middle east and with gaza and we might not make a huge strides with the israel/palestinian conflict but there is still lots to do in relation to what is ahead. >> so just to understand to be clear because i want to make sure i know what the position of new government will be. will they be in support of a two-state process, support settlement expansion?
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can you shed light on what the members are agreeing to? >> well, in general, i can say there won't be an annexation but much of the details is yet to unfold because at this point we are looking forward to getting this government sworn in and hopefully once we do that i'll be happy to come back on the show and shed some more information and some more light on the issues. >> we will will be you back, mr. roll. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. "deadline: white house" starts after this quick break. " starts after this quick break and trying to balance it all. so, what do you see when you look at yourself? i see a person that's caring. sometimes i care too much, and that's when i had to learn to put myself first, because i would care about everyone all the time
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