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good afternoon, i'm geoff bennett. as we come on the air, we're following three major dramas, each involving donald trump. as we speak, don mcgahn formally testifying about the trump organization after his fight to avoid it. mcgahn, you'll recall, turned out to be the key witness for robert mueller about trump's repeated efforts to stifle or stop the russia investigation. but his testimony is a big deal
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even beyond what he does or does not reveal today. we'll explain why in a moment. and then there's the drama involving mike pence, the man who unflinchingly stood by trump's side for four years until the insurrection at the capitol. that was january 6th, and the chant as rioters tried quite literally to hunt down mike pence. here's the former vp last night in new hampshire. >> january 6 was a dark day in history at the united states capitol. you know, president trump and i have spoken many times since we left office. and i don't know if we'll ever see eye on eye on that day. but i will always be proud of what we accomplished for the american people over the last four years. >> meantime, donald trump is
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about to burst back onto the political scene tomorrow night with a speech at the north carolina republican convention. even today while teasing that speech, trump continued to push the big lie that the election was stolen through widespread fraud. and here's the backdrop for that speech. the former president, according to reports from the "new york times," the "washington post" and others, has been telling people around him that he expects he'll be reinstated as president in august or at some point this year. to be clear, being reinstated as president is not a thing, it's a fantasy, it's a delusion. and it's all unfolding as trump continues to push lies and conspiracy theories. this afternoon facebook announced that trump has been suspended for two years and may never come back at all to the platform. joining me now is "washington post" political investigations correspondent josh dossey, jake sherman and carlos cabello, also
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an msnbc political analyst. lots happening this hour, and jake, we'll start with you. let's talk about mike pence. what based on your reporting is he up to here, trying to walk that tightrope in new hampshire last night, trying to lay the groundwork, it would appear, for a future presidential run even if donald trump himself might run or would like to support somebody other than mike pence? >> well, i think you've seen a range of options here when you're a republican officeholder when dealing with donald trump. liz cheney completely abandoned him. there is the kevin mccarthy sticking by him come hell or high water, and then there's mike pence taking kind of the middle ground after january 6 was a bad day. people were running through the hallways as you showed screaming, "hang mike pence." i imagine he and the former president would not see eye to eye because the president thinks it was overblown and much ado about nothing, and presumably
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they were there to kill mike pence. i can imagine why they don't see eye to eye on that day. but you see mike pence trying to take a middle ground and criticize the president while sticking by him on everything else. >> i guess the question is, is the middle ground politically viable in this day and age when it comes to all things trump. josh dossey, you and your colleague have a deep-seated piece about trump's mindset right now, how he's laser focused on the big lie, the conspiracy theory, that he could return to presidency later this year. does he actually believe that, or is this something he's saying to whip up his base of supporters? >> it depends who you ask, geoff. there are people around him who say he doesn't believe that, he just wants to keep fighting the election. there are a number of people i talk to who think he thinks it's a possibility. he's looking at this audit in arizona, trying to get audits in
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pennsylvania and georgia and other places to try and expose his unsubstantiated claims of fraud. no one around him thinks it's plausible and it's not going to happen. there is no mechanism for reinstating a former president. i mean, it's obviously not a scenario that we're expecting to have happen here. he is that determined to litigate the action, really, at all costs and above other things. there's been a lot of reporting on his advisors trying to get him to focus on biden or immigration or helping republicans in 2022, but so far he's shown no interest. it's all election all the time, and that's the only thing that animates him these days. >> yeah. and carlos cabello, what do you make of josh's reporting of trump's mindset and this decision by facebook to abandon him from the platform for two
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years? we should note trump has responded to this ban where he again calls the election rigged, the kind of thing that got him kicked off the platform to begin with. not just facebook, but twitter and instagram. >> geoff, regarding his mindset, i can tell you in the spring of 2018, former president trump visited my district in south florida which i represented, and i tried to explain to him that in 2016 he had lost my district, and he had trouble processing that. so i do think there is a chance that he may actually believe he could get reinstated in august of this year. sometimes he has a very difficult time accepting reality and it is unfavorable for him. with regards to facebook, i think the quick paradox or the irony is people are going to criticize facebook for this decision, i can tell you there
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are a number of people who are glad that trump won't have that megaphone, because at the end of the day, he is a distraction for republicans, and republicans who are trying to reclaim the house majority in the senate. for the last few years you had members saying publicly but wishing or thinking something else privately. >> help us understand trump's political machine, because clearly it doesn't help his ability to message or fund raise. >> not completely, he still sends out a lot of text messages, but you're right, it does hurt his ability to really do grassroots fundraising and grassroots messaging. he's off twitter, he's off facebook, he's off instagram. the blog he put together has been shut down. the statements going out to the
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public are just not disseminated like they used to be. a colleague and i looked at how the former president used to dominate the conversation and just doesn't do that anymore. he has no particular mechanism now to really be in that position. he's going to north carolina and i'm going with him to make a speech, but it's not the kind of coverage he used to get. >> facebook was the way they got the message across in 2016 and 2020. you wrote something in punchbowl and your survey found that 78% of house staffers think that republicans will win back the house in 2022. what accounts for that?
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>> well, mr. cabello could talk about this as well. the reality is the office party of the president wins the house almost always in the midterm of the presidency. we saw that with democrats in 2018. there is an average of a 25-seat pickup. republicans only need five or six to win the majority. they'll get that or get damn close to that just on redistricting. a lot of things could happen in the next year or 16 months. the situation could get a lot worse for republicans, there's no question about that. who knows, as josh indicated, what the former president will do. but the reality is this is not a foregone conclusion but if we base our prediction on history, what happened in the past, it's the only way to really do that, republicans do win the house of representatives and i think people are becoming more comfortable with that reality.
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>> my thanks to the three of you. as we mentioned at the top of the show, there is more news involving donald trump. his former advisor testifying right now on capitol hill, and here to talk more about that, leigh ann caldwell, and our friend joyce vance. she is also an msnbc contributor. leigh ann, there are two parts here. there is the testimony itself and sort of the practical i am replily -- and what do we know about what he said? >> reporter: after a two-year battle where he defied repeated subpoenas to come and testify. there was an agreement in the
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justice department to bring him before the committee, so democrats jumped at that opportunity. the chair, jerry nadler, called it a vindication of congressional oversight. regardless of what comes with this, this is a precedent-setting motion by the house judiciary committee to ensure they do have the ability to conduct oversight. and that's approximate -- what they're recall glg to bely. he was mention itted over and over again in the mueller report. echls -- so these are questions the committee is supposed to ask
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him to see if, in fact, there was more than what was in the mueller report, geoff. >> joyce, help us understand how this testimony from don mcgahn could clarify the public record as it relates to what donald trump was up to behind closed doors when the mueller team was conducting its russia investigation. >> it's unlikely it will do much to expand the awareness of people who followed closely the investigation and read the report, because, geoff, they've reached this agreement that pretty much limits the former white house counsel to testifying about what was publicly released in the mueller report. but the subject matter is important, putting it back on the public's radar screen do many. but the core of his testimony
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was a story about mcgahn and his request to fire robert mueller. mcgahn refused, and when that story was publicly reported, trump went back to mcgahn and told him he needed to deny it ever happened, told him to create documents that refuted the claim. clear obstruction of justice. mcgahn again refused, and this testimony that he'll deliver to the house today, it's important to have it on the public record as well as in the mueller report. >> and we should remind folks that the white house counsel does not represent the president himself. so don mcgahn is not president trump's attorney as much as dale reamus is biden's counsel. what does it mean for coming and sitting for this interview?
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>> it's highly srk appropriate. >> except for donald trump who thought everyone in the white house was there for him personally. it's also critical, as representative nadler said they remember. the white house is supposed to answer to congressional oversight. the executive branch would have acquired still more power. many people think the balance of power tips too strongly toward the executive as it is, but this two-year delay in getting mcgahn's testimony highlights the need for the process to change. there needs to be quicker ways of congress to get more witnesses with more certainty if
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oversight is to retain any vitality. >> and we expect to get a transcript of his testimony next week, so i have a feeling we'll be seeing and hearing from you two around that time. joyce vance and leigh ann caldwell, my thanks to both of you. coming up, facebook isn't just cracking down on donald trump, it's also releasing a transcript to post anything they wanted. with an ambitious democratic agenda hanging in the balance, senator joe manchin tells garrett haake that he's not going to support anything that's not bipartisan. >> reporter: are you ready to go it alone with just democrats? >> i don't think we should. no, i don't. >> i don't think we should no, i don't. with mavyret.ured in os you can keep your momentum with mavyret. before starting mavyret your doctor will test if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems
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rochelle walensky says she is concerned about the number of hospitalized adolescents with covid-19 and she is urging them to get vaccinated. the "washington post" reports that nearly one-third of 12 to 17-year-olds who were hospitalized required intensive care. why is that? is it the new variants? is it fewer people wearing masks? as this nation gets back to normal, it's gutting to think that our kids are at greater risk. >> yeah, geoff, good to be with you, and you're right, it's a couple different factors and probably more we don't recognize. one major factor is that as cases come down, people who aren't vaccinated are more vulnerable. on top of that, we know two-thirds of these patients
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actually have chronic conditions like obesity and asthma and that actually matches what we know about adults who are hospitalized, that they do poorly if they have other chronic conditions. it's a reminder that as healthy as children and adolescents are, they are extremely susceptible, and these rates have been an increase, geoff, over the last six months. so this is a troubling trend. >> and the conventional wisdom until now is that children normally have less severe cases of covid than adults. could this new reporting be considered evidence that that's no longer the case? >> it's not necessarily evidence that -- certainly adults are getting hospitalized at higher rates, but it is important to reflect that these hospitalization rates are much higher than previous years with influenza. i know people said kids get infected with covid, it's like the flu. no, it's more severe. and that is a product of more sticky variants and some relaxation of the actual
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mitigation measures, meaning we're putting kids back into sports and that's a good thing, but not necessarily forcing masks. we're putting kids back into group activities but not wearing masks. it's a reminder we are doing great as a country. we still need to protect people who aren't vaccinated, but we can vaccinate you if you're over 12. we have an authorization for that. >> what about the kids under 12? remind us about the best practices for keeping those kids safe. >> yeah, the best practices for keeping anyone safe who is not vaccinated or eligible is to think about the indoors as a risky environment. in fact, if you're going indoors with children and they're in a setting where they don't have knowledge of who is vaccinated and who is not, like other kids in camps, you should have them wear masks. i found that kids are actually okay with wearing masks. we can help them safely wear masks. outdoors is a very safe environment, geoff, so i want people to encourage kids to be outdoors much more than anything else, and in the texas heat where i'm from, you can't really
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get them to wear a mask properly, so you really do need to encourage them to stay outdoors, be safe. when they're indoors, try to have them wear masks. >> dr. kavita patel, thank you for joining us with this breaking news. after a wave of cyberattacks, they are treating the hacks as a national security threat. but first our own stephanie ruhle on today's jobs report and whether or not it signals the economy is on the road to recovery. on the road to recovery new projects means new project managers.
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no other major economy in the world is going as fast as ours. no other major economy is gaining jobs as quickly as ours. and none of the success is an accident. vaccinations are up, jobs are up, wages are up, manufacturing is up, growth is up, people gaining health coverage is up and small business confidence is up. america is finally on the move again. >> that was president biden touting the country's economic progress after the release of the latest jobs report this morning. it showed the economy added 559,000 jobs in may, bringing the unemployment rate down to
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5.8%. that's good news but not great news, experts say. almost 300,000 of those jobs created were in leisure and hospitality with businesses looking to hire back employees after pandemic restrictions were lifted. joining us now is msnbc appearing or and nbc news senior business correspondent stephanie ruhle in new jersey, and economic chief and correspondent and host of the money podcast, ben white. stephanie, in new jersey, hanging out in kuramas, we'll start with you. >> my mom just had lunch here in the mall with us. >> did she really? that's great. our best to your mom. good stuff, good stuff. let's talk. people are headed back to the malls, they're doing more shopping. do you think a summer surge could really boost things? based on these numbers, it looks like there won't be a full recovery until sometime in 2022. >> sure. listen, the recovery is going to
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take some time, however, things are back. that v-shaped recovery that former president trump touted last year certainly wasn't around when so many people were sick and we were still shut down. but now with so many people being vaccinated, with restrictions being lifted, you are seeing businesses across the board. you are seeing shoppers today. before there were malls even opened, people were lined up outside foot locker looking to buy sneakers. so the jobs numbers are very, very good and it's no surprise you see states pulling back on those restrictions. people are doing well. >> and ben, there is a white house press briefing which i believe is ongoing. ben sasse was asked about the reporter cutting off the unemployment benefit. and psaki's response was they
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had every right to do so. as you know, employers say there is a labor shortage holding them back from filling jobs. what are the likely factors contributing to that, besides potentially this extra $300 that people are getting? >> i love that psaki is about ten minutes from me at that mall. stephanie said this was a good jobs report. it was an okay jobs report, 559, well below the number we hoped for, and there is this labor shortage and some of it may be the enhanced unemployment benefits. people are still a little afraid of covid, there are child care issues, there are different priority people have about work right now, but it is a change in the message from the white house, and i think acknowledging that, it's probably time to start curtailing these extra
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$300-a-week benefits because there are tons of employers trying to hire people that can't do it. we have record openings, we do not have the types of jobs we would like to have. we're still 7 million to 8 million short of where we were pre-covid. i think the white house shifing tone on this a little bit is not particularly surprising. you won't see an extension of the $300 extra per week when it runs out in september. it's not the only reason people aren't coming back into the labor force, but we had hoped to be growing a little faster than this, geoff. >> steph, last question -- >> we're seeing wages -- the really good news is we're seeing wages go up. remember two months ago, the debate about raising the federal minimum wage, that didn't go through, but we're seeing market forces start to push wages up, especially at those hourly lower wage jobs. many of those jobs, we saw millions of people in the last
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year shift to other industries that pay more. they moved to warehouse jobs that pay $16 an hour, that offer more regular schedules and benefits. so it's those restaurants we hear from every day saying they can't hire workers back. well, many workers are saying, for $2 an hour plus tips, it doesn't make sense for me. so what we're seeing is a natural progression in the markets. employers are starting to offer better benefits and higher pay, and that's good for the american worker. >> it's great for workers. so, ben, the question, i guess, setting aside the mom and pop shops, what do higher wages mean for corporations when we talk about growth? what's the expectation there? >> obviously if employers have to pay their workers a little more, maybe their earnings come down a little bit. i don't think anyone will shed a tear for a lot of big corporate america having to pay people a little more after we saw from the last recovery wages not recover very quickly at all. it was a long, slow, sloggy
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recovery. stephanie is right, it's a good sign that they're going up and employers have to pay more. corporations have done really well, profits have been great. if they have to attract workers by paying a little bit more, fine, that's not a bad thing, and i don't think they'll be punished too terribly by the stock market for that. the stock market never loves higher wages, but i think they'll accept that if it's what it takes to get people back to work. to a degree, it's exactly what it's going to take to get people off the sidelines and back into some of these jobs. >> ben white of "politico" and the great stephanie ruhle -- yeah, go ahead. last word. >> for smaller businesses, they can afford it. the restaurant industry just got over $28 billion from the government, and we know billions and billions went out in ppp. they've got the money. >> steph and ben, the two of you can meet up at the poramus mall.
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have a party in poramus. >> i'm going for pretzels in a little bit. >> have a great weekend. president joe biden is keeping the infrastructure talks going today with lead republican negotiator and west virginia senator shelley moore capito. >> are you going to have infrastructure talks? >> i'm having a talk this afternoon. i'll tell you after that. >> that's unfolding as we learn the president offered concessions to republicans as he looks to strike a deal on what would be a signature legislative achievement. but the two sides are still far apart, not only on the overall price tag of any agreement but how to pay for it. pressure is mounting on president biden and senate republicans to make a deal on infrastructure. >> does anyone doubt this whole nation will be better off with these investments? >> reporter: but both sides appear miles apart. the president's latest offer
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carries a $1.7 trillion price tag, targeting traditional projects like roads and bridges, along with billions for other areas, including caregiving for the elderly and disabled, modernizing the electric grilled and school upgrades. the republicans' counteroffer is nearly a trillion dollars less for roads, bridges. that's without rolling back the 2017 tax cuts, widely considered the gop's red line. >> what the president believes is, one, that corporations can afford to pay a little bit more. and that's the way that we can pay for a range of the bold proposals that he has put forward. >> reporter: and while the senate's top republican says he's hopeful a deal can get
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done, he's flatly dismissing the president's offer, arguing any tax hikes are out of the question. >> i don't think that's going to appeal to members of my party, and i think it will be a hard sell to the democrats. >> reporter: with time running short, many democrats are now focusing on passing the president's plan using the process known as reconciliation, which requires only 51 votes without republican support. but senate democrat joe manchin tells nbc's garrett haake that's a bad idea. >> right now basically we need to be bipartisan. i've never seen a pothole that had a republican or democrats' name on it. >> there's more of his interview with senator manchin. garrett, good to see you again. let's start with this piece left off. you're watching senator manchin about his view on infrastructure. what is the end game here? if a bipartisan plan doesn'tie
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-- emerge and he doesn't support democrats going it alone, what is the message? >> right now it's his colleague shelley moore capito leading the republicans. it's possible he wants to get in the mix with that group. it's not clear that either can get to 60 votes in the senate, but he tells me he's committed to talking for as long as it takes to get done. his fellow democrats clearly disagree. >> so he does not share the same white house timeline about getting this infrastructure deal across the line. you also asked him about his meeting next tuesday with civil rights leaders about the push for voting rights legislation on the hill. let's listen to that exchange. >> reporter: you're going to have a meeting next week with some civil rights groups who
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really want you to support voting rights. you said you wanted to go with the john lewis -- >> i think the john lewis is a way we can do it in a bipartisan way. i think it's a disaster waiting to happen if we go down that path of where it's just going to be -- >> the s-1 bill specifically you think is a disaster or a single party -- >> i think nonpartisan is difficult and it separates us doing anything. the more we do things in a partisan fashion separates us further. it's not good for our country. >> so, garrett, as you do so well, can you put that in plain english for our viewers? manchin is saying he doesn't support the for the people act, which is known on the hill as s-1, but he does support the reauthorization of the voting rights act which was named for john lewis. what's the difference? >> reporter: the voting rights act in this case, the reauthorization of it, is a much
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narrower bill. the idea that states would have to go through the justice department and have the federal government approve changes to their voting situations in those states. i tried to follow up with him there, and you can hear manchin kind of cutting off my questions. he doesn't like going into the specifics of this. pre-clearance, if you brought that back now, wouldn't help people in georgia or florida or potentially texas which may very well pass its restrictive voting rights legislation in the next few weeks. he wants to see any changes in the voting systems in this country be done on a bipartisan basis. he has explained this before by saying that he thinks if one party changes voting rules, you disenfranchise people or you get people to think the system is crooked, that it's bad for trust in democracy. the back and forth we continue to have on this point is that's already happening in a number of states, it's just the republican part in those states doing it and democrats are practically
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begging manchin to be involved in this, to be the 50th vote, potentially, for the voting rights package. as you heard him say there, he's just not willing to do that unless it can be done bipartisan, and the other republican who said she would support this is lisa murkowski which doesn't get you there. >> if they don't pass the voting rights law quickly, it will be damaging. does manchin understand that he would be the guy responsible for that generational failure, potentially, if he doesn't budge on this issue? >> he understands that. he was a former secretary of state here in west virginia, so he understands the voting rights issue broadly here. but this is one of those where he goes back to saying he's going to represent his state and he wants to see these things done on a bipartisan basis.
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geoff, i have no idea how long that stance can be held in the face of the pressure he's going to be facing here, or if this is a legacy nonvote, as it were, for a long time with joe manchin. >> thank you for visiting me this hour. facebook is cracking down on politicians and speech, but is it too little too late? a government report on ufos and why it's raising more questions than answers. stay with us. e questions than answers stay with us ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ you come and go-o-o ♪ ♪ loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ ♪ red, gold -- ♪ [ tires screech ] [ crickets chirping ] for those who were born to ride there's progressive. with 24/7 roadside assistance.
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and save at trelegy.com. back to the breaking news from facebook, that it suspended donald trump for two years. according to the social media giant, he will only be reinstated if -- and these are their words -- if conditions permit. this follows more news from facebook today that the platform will no longer give politicians a pass when they break the platform's hate speech rules. joining us now is nbc news reporter brandy drogny. brandy, how did they come to this decision and read between the lines for me, the if conditions permit caveat? >> this decision is really from
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the ruling last month where they ruled that facebook was right to suspend donald trump, but they couldn't kick it to the board on whether that was forever or not. so they sent it back to the board to find out if they could continue or not. facebook said this is a middle of the road decision, because like you two kicked him off the platform and said he can come back when things are better. twitter said he can never come back. so facebook positioned themselves right in the middle. as for that two years, when the two-year period is up, they're going to look to experts to assess what the risk is to public safety. they're going to evaluate the climate, whether there are instances of violence, whether there is civil unrest and then it will make a decision whether he's allowed back or not. it's really that means of rick
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-- risk to public safety. >> brandy zadrogny, thank you. christopher wray called for a similar sense of urgency with an emphasis on, quote, disruption and prevention. he called for cooperation between the federal government, the private sector and everyday americans. his comments come on the heels of several high-profile cyberattacks which now has the white house treating ransomware as a national security theft. joining me is national security correspondent ken delanian. our colleague eamon javers said
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that they had the colonial pipeline. >> one, as we reported in our article in 2019, the decision was to have the national security agency start spying on some of these hacks in russia. until then the nra hadn't paid much attention to criminals, they usually spied on terror groups. the biden folks are amping that up because they're treating this much more like a national security problem. as to the question of covert action, we have to be more humble about this. we don't know what we don't know. all i can tell you is the sources i spoke to are under the impression that that kind of thing is not happening. in fact, if it was taken off line, it may have been the result of so-called white house hackers, there are a lot of
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possibilities there. what we are being told is that the biden administration is now actively considering taking offensive action, using the military hackers cyber command to go after of this these russian criminals in russia. it invites retaliation from russia. some people would consider it an act of war, though they're going to calibrate it carefully to not hurt anybody or destroy any russian infrastructure. it's still a big deal and it's something that's under consideration. >> nbc's ken delanian with exclusive reporting. thank you. coming up, why a government report about ufos is raising new questions about our national security. ew questions about our national security or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change--
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