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oroville there. it is brutal. thank you so much, scott cohn. and that is a wrap for me. i'll see you again tomorrow at noon. and yasmin vossoughian is continuing our coverage right now. good afternoon, we have a lot to cover right now. a major ruling in california shaking up gun debate, a 0 year 30 year ban struck down. the former president set to speak in a couple hours emerging to spread his big lie even as he deals with a new twist in the criminal investigation-his company. and new action to keep him off facebook. and an alarming rise in covid hospitalizations of adolescents even as schools are being told that they can ditch the masks. and next hour, a special report, the gop war on transgender children.
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i'm going to show you the real face of the real life harm a wave of laws are causing. one family's struggle and what can actually be done about it. but we want to begin in the state of california where a federal judge has struck down the 32 year ban on assault weapons ruling it as unconstitutional writing that like the swiss army knife, the popular ar-15 rifle is a perfect combination of weapon and homeland defense equipment. and this is as the gun epidemic is surging. last week thine were kill at a rail yard. as of last week, there has been at least 232 mass shootings so far this year. california is not the only state loosening restrictions either. texas state legislature says that texans can carry hand guns
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without a license or training. and so let's get into this more. talk us through this, what are you hearing from california leaders about this decision? >> good afternoon. governor newsom immediately speaking against this decision. we know that even before he was governor he was a strong supporter of gun control over the years. he has already issued a statement right away saying that this decision is a direct threat to public safety and the lives of californians, period. the fact that this judge compared the ar-15, a weapon of war, to a swiss army knife completely undermines the credibility of this decision and is a slap in the face of the families who have lost loved ones to this weapon. he adds saying the state will fight against this ruling. now as you mentioned, california has had a ban on assault weapons for decads since 1989 and they have added more and more
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changes, but there is strong support from voters in this state. in fact a little over four years ago, there was a prop decision passed in california that prohibited the sale and owning high capacity ammunition magazines. in fact this is what led to the late, this is what led to this entire lemm process because a gun advocate group in san diego wanted to buy these high capacity magazines and use them in their legal guns which would classify them as assault rifles or assault weapons, this would make them illegal. and that is how this whole lawsuit began. they have said that they expect to keep fight even if they have to take this to the supreme court. >> so talk us through that then. because asyou mentioned, what is the fight going to look like. >> so the judge gave the state of california 30 days to file an appear and we already heard from the attorney general who also spoke against the ruling by
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saying that this decision is fundamentally flawed, and they will be appealing it. there is no sound basis this law, fact or common sense for equating assault rifles with swiss army knives. so as i mentioned, this legal battle is expected to continue in the courts after the state of california files this appeal. >> and we'll stay on this. guad, appreciate it. and we are also following breaking news out of the state of california as well. just this hour, an earthquake has struck imperial countriesity, california. it is amagnitude. usgs says a cluster of earthquakes have been reported in the area just this morning. we're keeping an eye on this and we'll let you know when we have more information. so let's move over to north carolina, the other coast, where donald trump is set to return to the electoral battle field in a couple hours after a week that included reports that the former
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president believes that he will be reinstated as president in august. and being banned from facebook for between r two ali vitali is covering this for us. thanks for joining us. let's talk first about what we expect to hear from the former president and what have you been hearing from republicans at the convention already? >> reporter: this convention is already under way. we heard from south dakota governor already this morning. and president trump from what i'm told will focus his remarks on the guy who beat him in the 2020 election, president biden, as well as the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, specifically focusing in on those emails that were recently made public from dr. anthony fauci in those early days and weeks of the coronavirus pandemic hitting america's shores. but more broadly, there is
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really no other way to listen to this speech than hearing it as testing the waters for her own potential presidential run. there have been others out here on the campaign trail doing that same thing. i'm thinking about former vice president mike pence for instance this week working the circuit in new hampshire. but take a listen to how she spoke to the crowd here. she was greeted with a standing ovation. listen. >> i really wanted to understand what authority i had at a governor and what authority i didn't have as a governor. because i believe that when leaders overstep their authority, especially in a time of crisis, that that is when we break this country. that is when we break this country and i didn't want to be the governor to do that. i don't know if you've heard this before, but dr. fauci is wrong a lot. >> reporter: so a little bit of red meat there with that dig at dr. fauci, but that was governor noem explaining her rationale
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from taking a step back from regulate being much of anything during the pandemic. and her response rose her to national prominence. many public health officials pushing back against her decision to allow tourists in last summer to south dakota even as much of the rest of the country was still locked down. >> and also fascinating when you hear her talk about overstepping boundaries on the same stage in which the former president will be speaking on later on today and you think about what took place on january 6, the ultimate boundary that was overstepped there. can we just talk quickly about this story that i read leading into you about this idea that the former president thinks that he will be reinstated in august? what is going on here? >> reporter: it is not real. that can't happen. there is no legal way for in a to happen and certainly this is the "new york times" reporting that it is something that the former president has talked about with allies.
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it stems from a conspiracy theory. again, it is a conspiracy theory. and it is not going to happen. at the same time though, there is a continuing conversation in washington and out here across the country about the vestiges of the trump era. you talk about the way that he has tiffined to perpetuate things like the big lie. facebook coming out with their long awaited decision to keep help off of that platform and instagram for the next two years, so that is through midterm elections. he will certainly be talking about that here. we saw statements from him overnight to that effect. certainly that will come up. but at the same time, there is a push and pull in the party where lawmakers that i talked to back in washington would like to move forward, they would like to keep their eyes on the future, hopefully they say retaking the house, at the same time though the former president continuing to relitigate his time in office all the way through the november election. >> ali vitali, stay close, i'll talk to you again in the next hour.
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thanks for now. so some bombshell reporting from the new york times today could spell bad news for trump and his growing legal battles. the manhattan d.a. subpoenaed people of a handful of people who has knowledge of trump's finances. and we've talked about the gifts that the trump organization gave allen weisselberg. let's bring in joyce vance. always great to see you. thanks for joining us. i first want to talk about the name that is jeffrey mcconnie, why go after him? >> he is the controller and that means on a day to day basis he is seeing a lot of what is going on in a company and he is working hand in hand with weisselberg who looks like that he is the target that cy vance
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has in mind to be his chief cooperator. so he gets immunity, transactional immunity, for testifying. that means that he can't be prosecuted over anything that he is testifying about. but he also doesn't have a fifth amendment right to avoid incriminating himself. he has to tell the truth. the only risk he faces is the risk of being prosecuted for perjury ifhe lies. so this gives prosecutors more evidence that they can use along with those documents that we know that they have, eight years of trump tax returns when they approach weisselberg to decide if he will be a witness or a defendant in this case. >> so if he can't necessarily be prosecuted based on his grand jury testimony so long as he doesn't perjure his testimony, what does it mean that he could offer up against weisselberg and donald trump? >> grand jury proceedings are
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secret, they are meant to be secret, there are good reasons for that, so we don't have a lot of visibility here. it is possible i suppose that mcconnie has already cut a cooperation deal with the government or it is possible that they approached him and said that we won't prosecute you, we'll put you in the grand jury, but you have to tell the truth. and there is also the possibility that david kay raised that perhaps there are other crimes that they are able to pin on him that aren't the subject of his grand jury testimony. whatever their focus is, it is clear that they are trying to gear up to deal with weisselberg and mcconney is the path forward. the man who worked with him day in and day out and heimpropriet. >> what is the likelihood wisele bigger will be weisselberg will be called into testify? >> i'm not looking to see him in
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the grand jury anytime soon. but one never know what is they are sitting on and what sort of deals they have cut. >> joyce vance, thank you as always. you will be back as well and so stay close. and coming up, we'll talk about the military coup, you won't want to miss that conversation. and so infrastructure bill has hit another road block. president biden has rejected the latest counter proposal meaning talks will drag into next week. monica alba is at the white house for us. great to see you. the clock is ticking. what do democrats say about moving forward here without support from the republicans? >> reporter: these talks as you say could stretch into next week or even longer than that because of course the president is soon
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going to turn his focus to his overseas travels that he has coming up. but this domestic priority is one of course that remains a huge challenge. but we are hearing from someone who is a critical vote in all of in, the democratic senator from west virginia joe manchin who is telling our own garrett hague that democrats aren't ready to go to alone quite yet on infrastructure. and one reason for that may be because even though these talks right now with the current republican group as you referenced seem to be really a stalling point, there is another group working on an infrastructure proposal also that includes gop senators who may want to meet with the president and the white house is signaling that they are open to that. so we may see those meetings in the coming days and weeks. but what it boils down to, they could ultimately decide that they will want to go the budget reconciliation route. this is something where we've seen the time line shift so many times. originally it was memorial day
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and then june 7. and with all happening around the foreign trip, likely it will get punted to later into june and probably we won't see any actual action until july. but a direction in terms of how they will handle out the details will likely come pretty soon as the talks continue. >> and so while i have you, i want to talk about this week's white house chat featuring president biden and a conversation with his old boss, former president barack obama. >> reporter: most saturdays they like to release their conversation of the week and typically it is everyday americans speaking to the president. but not this time. they released a little bit of a conversation where they wanted to tout the fact that the affordable care act has meant that horn 31 million americans have been able to receive health care coverage. and in particular, the current president was talking about how he opened this special enrollment period during the pandemic and that was able to add more than a million people. and the former president of
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course who signed that into law wanted to also heap praise on the current administration if all that they are doing trying to get the economy back on track. take a listen. >> joe biden, we did this together, we always talked about how if we could get the principal of universal coverage established, we could then build on it. and i just want to say how proud i am of what you've done now with the american rescue plan. >> we opened up the enrollment period again and reduced the cost. 1.2 million people signed up on top of the 30 million. and look how many times they tried to defeat your legislation. >> so they speak frequently behinds scenes but it is more rare to see them in this kind of a venue. and there was a little bit of levity in there. the former president joking about how it works like a charm
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now. we all remember how troubled the rollout was years ago. and he said i love you, man and the current president responded i'll keep calling for you advice. so even though we don't see that today we did get a glimpse into their very close personal relationship. >> yeah, roll out of healthcare.gov definitely had some glitches. thank you, hanukkah. so we're following breaking news of a potential major shake up in new york city mayor's race. alexandria ocasio-cortez has officially thrown her support behind civil rights attorney maya wiley. and she urged them to come together as a movement. her endorsement is expected to help wiley stand out among the pack of democrats currently in the running. all right. coming up, a warning from the fbi after a surge in ransomware cyberattacks. what we know about the hackers and their targets, some of which might surprise you. and later on, a special report
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netanyahu is taking a strong stance over those trying to overthrow him. and he says that it would call parties to collapse. and this is after more than a decade of netanyahu's dominance. and less than two weeks after a ceasefire deal with hamas following weeks of violence. and an opera singer who performed at carnegie hall who federal authorities say assaulted officers with a flag pole on january 6 and is now charged with a slew of offenses. the arrest affidavit says that she assaulted a capitol police officer with a flag pole to push him through the doors of the house floor. the officer hit his head on a statue and says that he was also trampled during the incident. and russian president vladimir putin is setting a tough tone ahead of his upcoming
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meeting with president biden. he spoke critically to the u.s. response to the january 6 capitol attack accusing the u.s. of a double standard. putin says that the u.s. is charging the rioters with heavy punishments while they criticize russian leaders for harsh responses and that they weren't just a crowd of robbers and rioters, those people had come with political demands. the summit in geneva is set for june 16. so just days after the white house reveal the latest high profile ransomware attack originated from a criminal organization in russia, a warning from fbi director chris wray who says that the fbi is investigating roughly 100 different ransomware variants as they grapple with a wave of cyberattacks. in a new interview, wray compared the urgent national security threat to the september 11th terror attacks. tom costello has more. >> reporter: amid growing
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cyberattacks against tv stations, food supplier, water systems and all levels of government, the fbi confirms to nbc news it is investigating 100 different types of ransomware attacks. >> we can cannot give any quarter and no kuchb should be harboring criminal actors of any type. >> reporter: and ibm runs a constant cyber expert assessment and blaming revil is response for the attack on jbs. revealing glimpse of the online negotiations between hackers and victims, companies and charities, large and small. and in one exchange, a company pleads, my bosses have told me that they can offer $73,000, they said if we had to pay any higher, we would not be able to pay our employees. the hackers response, provide supporting information that your company is in a financial hole and we will review your price.
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the employee but all of our systems are down. and another charity pleads if you can desist and allow us to continue our work. the hacker agrees only after receiving proof of the charity's work. average initial ransom demand, $5 million. two-third pay the ransom. >> this is a team of people working together. they have a financial department, they have negotiation department, they have a customer service group. >> reporter: but should the u.s. retaliate against the russian government? most warn that that would lead to a dangerous game of escalation. >> i don't think that we should turn out the lights in st. petersburg and punish the russian people for what krirnl russian actors have done to us or what the russian state has done to us. >> and thank you to tom costello for that. still ahead, covid concerns.
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welcome back, everybody. an alarming rise in severe covid cases among adolescents is sparking concerns. kathy park is in this morning city covering this for us. good to see you. walk us through these numbers. and what are scientists actually seeing now amongst american teens that they weren't necessarily seeing throughout the rest of the pandemic? >> reporter: yeah, this was an eye-opening study released by the cdc that looked at roughly 200 adolescents between the ages of 12 to 17. and they were hospitalized with the virus. and approximately a third were admitted to the icu and
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approximately 5% having been placed on a ventilator. and also worth noting that the same group earlier in the year, the numbers with are on the decline, hospitalized teens with the virus. but then it started to creep back up again in march and april. and obviously citing these troubling trends, director of the cdc said that this was deeply concerning. and implored families to encourage mask wearing especially for unvaccinated kids. but obviously the preference among health officials is to get those kids vaccinated. >> and so what are the factors that they say have contributed to the rise in hospitalizations? >> reporter: yeah, so researchers are pointing to a couple things that may be contributing to the rise. they were saying that covid variants and possibly with more kids going back to school in person, that could have also boosted those numbers that we've seen recently as well as indoor
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interactions with more cities opening up. and you know what, new york city, i'm here right now, this is one of the biggest school systems in the country. and a lot of school systems across the country are taking a close look at these trends as they decide to move forward and offer in-person learning which is what new york city schools plan on doing this coming fall. yesterday they launched a pilot program for bronx schools and brought the vaccines to the students to make it really easy for them. so this is a pilot program and eventually the mayor hopes to extend this program. but we spoke with one mom about this initiative. here's what she had to say. >> it is not everybody, some people want to get it, but some people didn't. but me personally, i want to get it. i want my children to get it because it is good. >> reporter: and once again, this all started credit.
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and mayor de blasio says that he hopes to expand the program and offer these mobile vaccine pop-up sights in all five boroughs in the city. >> kathy, thank you. so let's talk more about this. i want to bring in dr. natalie azar. thanks for joining us on this. this is really concerning i think for a lot of folks especially in hearing the cdc director dr. walensky essentially saying, i'm deeply concerned about the number of hospitalized adolescents and saddened to see the numbers who require treatment in icus. and about a third are being admitted into the icu, 5% on ventilators. that iis going on? >> it is scary. and for the last number of weeks or months, i've been doing my best to break apart the narrative that we started last year that covid-19 was so benign for children. and of course comparing relative numbers, compared to 600,000
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deaths in adults compared to the almost 400 deaths in children, of course it is less severe, less deadly in kids. but for a very, very long time now, experts have been saying, look, this is more serious than influenza. the year before, we had 200 deaths from flu. that was a bad year for flu. and now experts are saying that we'll probably have between 300 and 600 pediatric deaths from covid-19. not to mention the fact that kids get lung covid and multiinflammatory syndrome which can be devastating. i heard an expert say that the virus will go everywhere until it can't go anywhere. and i think that we're seeing these numbers now that the older population are vaccinated, the virus is going to find a host, susceptible host where it can, and that is in younger people especially adolescents who are
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not vaccinated. >> that is fascinating. i just want to be clear here, the numbers that we are seeing amongst these adolescents, these are amongst kids that are 12 years and up, the trend is still there in children that are under 12 are less susceptible to getting covid in an extreme way, right? >> yeah, and that is true. and the reason that we separate and we've been, you know, classifying kids and doing deescalation, you know, strategies and approaches with vaccine trials is because we know that there is a significant difference that happens around the age of 12 where kids 12 and older start to behave more like actuals. adults in terms of sickness and their ability to transmit which is why we're always talking about that. biologically children do change as they get older and become more like adults. >> and two more things that i want to hit before i let you go.
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one is this idea of masks. new york for instance saying children don't need them in schools, this camps. is this too soon considering this new information? >> you know, i would say yes. you know, for the younger kids, in spite of the fact that we know that -- and i'm talking grade school now, you know, there is a lot of issues here. and i heard a lot of experts opine that for especially younger children, with their vocabulary and language and facial expression and things like that, there is a lot of things to take into consideration. but i would say that if you still have a classroom that is poorly ventilated, you know, with a fair number of unvaccinated kids if we're talking about that borderline 12 it 15 especially, i do think that masks are still important. i mean, the cdc has always advocated for a layered mitigation strategy. it is not just one thing.
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so look, if you are trying to keep the community safe, i still think that it is something to take into consideration. very much will depend on what is happening with community transmission as well. >> and thursday i was actually out reporting in front of a nursing home and we recognized that there is a disparity of folks getting a vaccine in the health care community. and that is the population that is most vulnerable. do you think that there should be a requirement for folks taking care of individuals in these facilities to be vaccinated, to stop these cluster outbreaks? >> it is tough. philosophically there is a lot lot going on there. the eeoc just released a recommendation saying that employers do have a legal right to mandate vaccination with of course exemptions for medical and religious purposes. and i do think that long term care facilities and hospitals have a different responsibility in terms of their employers. many of the nursing home
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outbreaks did begin with infected staff. and it is also -- you know, it is not that the residents are ever changing and the new individuals are coming in who are very vulnerable. and so i do think that it is a philosophically fraught conversation but i do think that it is really important that we still meet these folks who are hesitant about getting vaccinated where they are and speak to them one-on-one rather than perhaps just a blanket mandate. but still strong incentives to encourage. look, they will be concerned about litigation, you have to worry about access to these individuals that they can get the vaccine. and we do have to worry about losing staff because there is already nursing home shortages. so i think that this is something take that we'll be talking about for the weeks and months to come. >> dr. azar, thank you. and still ahead, facebook solidifies a two year suspension for donald trump but not nearly long enough for some critics.
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and that candidate is maya wiley. >> and this is on the heels of two other big gets for wiley. friday, working family party announced her backing of her as does the 1199 union. facebook has extended former president's donald trump suspension for another two years. but leaving open the possibility for his return in january of 2023 before the next presidential election. facebook announced that once the ban is up, experts will, quote, assess will the risk to public safety has receded and make a decision. the social network barred trump earlier this year after he made comments on social media rallies his supporters who stormed the capitol on january 6. the former president was quick to slam the move calling it an insult to those who voted for
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him. angelo is joining us. thank you. and i want to read your tweet to the reaction of facebook's ban. you write, facebook played a game since day after capitol attack. other platforms banned trump permanently, but facebook made it temporary. and then they appealed their own suspension to the board. somehow it is getting muddled. >> yeah, one of the things that gets lost is because the whole reason that we are having the conversation, they did something that the other platforms didn't go, they made it temporary. and in the 11th hour right before the dead lean for appealing the decision closed, they filed an appeal of their own decision and kicked it to the oversight board. which then said that you have to make the call here. and so they have been refusing to make it a permanent suspension and the part that i think is critical here is if you
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look at all of their communications around this announcement of a two year suspension, they all say that the suspension will eventually be lifted. so this idea that they will reevaluate it in two years i think is a bit of a distraction. the word on the street and their own writing basically makes it clear that they plan for him to come back in two years. >> this idea of kicking to the board, do you think that it was an effort in a way for mark zuckerberg not to have to make a decision? >> i think that is right. i think a big part of what the board is designed to do is to do some of the dirty work for the platform. they can kick the hard decisions off to what they say is a third party so that they don't have to feel like they are on the hook for it. and i think that their hope honestly is that the board would reinstate donald trump on free speech grounds. that has been the entire arc of all this. if you go back in time, donald trump try la violated facebook'
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terms of service. what does be somebody need to do in order to have any accountability from the platform. and i think that they really tried to avoid doing the one thing that twitter and others have done, which is to just say it already, that he is not going to be back. there is actually a consequence for how he misused and abused platform. >> what do you make about the argument of reinstating on the grounds of free speech? >> i'm sensitive to this. and i think that we do need to figure out where the right line is. i do. i think that we just haven't calibrated it enough and it will always come up on these cases. that said, i look at things where there will be a lot of gray areas, but i don't think that this is a gray area. that is the point. when somebody misuses a platform the way donald trump has done and then according to mark
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zuckerberg admitted that he used facebook to incite a violent insurrection. those were his words. so if zuckerberg is saying that, if facebook is saying that this was used to create a violence insurrection, and their penalty allows for permanent suspension and they have only issued a two year sentence, it doesn't fit the action. that is not my opinion, that is their own assessment. so i think that this is not a gray area. i just don't think that violent insurrection is a gray area that says that you can have your account back pretty soon just in time to attack a new election. >> i was going to say, i think that there will be a lot more to come. and he will be speaking in a couple hours. i can't help but think that he will be talking exactly about this type of thing. angelo, thanks so much. coming up, hello, is there anybody out there. >> what a highly anticipated intelligence report says about life beyond earth. ort says about life beyond earth.
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sent off amid protests. and claudio is covering it for us. thank you for joining us. who are these protestors, and why are they resistant to the return of the cruise industry especially after the pandemic battered tourism throughout the country? >> reporter: well, these protestors have been complaining for about ten years now since the cruise liners started coming into venice that these massive giants of the seas when they sail past these canals now, this is one of the biggest canals in venice, right in thed they move and are a real threat to the environment and architecture of this city. they say that water erodes slowly the canal floor as well as crashing against the fragile
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foundations that the city was built upon. and i spoke to one of these protestors. these are not just locals, they are also acquired residents. and one is an american woman. >> it is not just the problem for venice, it is a problem for the whole world. cruises are causing damage and disturbance throughout the world and we hope that the extra these venetian cause will rethink the whole travel business. >> reporter: in march, the government appears to have answered by banning the ships from sailing into venice. they passed a law and they said, well, no more ships into venice. and there is a trick there.
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there is a catch. they said but only when we'll find an alternative route and alternative docking site, a port outside of venice. but for that, it will take of course many years and a lot of money. in the meantime, cruise liners will still as we've seen today sail through this beautiful city. >> claudio, man, i wish i was there. thank you. . welcome to the second hour of the show. i'm yasmin vossoughian. for those of you that were watching, thanks for sticking around. for those of you just joining us, welcome. donald trump is taking the big lie on the road to north carolina. but this one is a little different. a smaller crowd of just party faithful will likely hear a man
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dogged by legal trouble and increasing the delusional blaefr belief of a return to the white house. >> donald trump will be back it august in august. >> it should be that he can simply be reinstated, that new inauguration set is biden is told to move out of the white house. and president trump should be moved back in. >> and while the president's election fantasies continue to have real life consequences, a small group of republicans fantasize about a return to normal. >> he is obsessed with the fact that he lost again at something. and instead of this his post-presidency taking on, i don't know, some issue that he cares about or some thing that what former presidents do, he is obsessing about the fact that he is a loser. i'm sorry you are a loser, but
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