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"velshi" is next. morning, it is sunday, june 6th, i am ali velshi, we are five months from the january attack of the capitol. the former president's new delusion is being reinstated by august on the sham of the ninja audit and the gop's growing push to have propaganda taken place in other states. republicans argued in trump's big election lies of voter restrictions in states across the country essentially fighting a battle against an enemy that does not exist. in a move in texas, democrats though temporarily blocked the major package of the restriction bill known as sb7 being passed.
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governor greg abbott vowed to convene a special session to pass the bill. plus, it comes as a trio of republicans touring the ninja audit. according to e-mails just released, the republican president of the arizona senate terry fan ordered the ridiculous audit. president trump called and thanked her for pushing to prove any fraud. the insurrectionist former president delivered remarks of his time in office and betrayal.
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now he's also bringing up the arizona's ninjas. >> it was third world country election like we have never seen before. look at what took place. i want to congratulate by the way, republican state senators in arizona and other places for their great work. that they are doing and exposing this fraud and maybe again i have nothing to do with the arizona situation. >> he has everything to do with the arizona situation. as for the gop performance propaganda taken place, katie hobbes documenting everything that the ninjas event wrapped up. joining me now is katie hobbs,
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secretary hobbs, good to have you here. i don't like to bring up what donald trump says these days or at all. i do need you to answer this one. he said the arizona election was a third world country election like we have never seen. these are the allegations. the secretary of state said it was a fair election. and allegations made in pennsylvania, this is what happens, donald trump said these are sham elections and they feed this lie. >> maybe there was a third world election in the alternate reality that he lived in. that's not what happens here in arizona or across the country. we heard over again it is the
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most secure election. we saw historic turnout in the face of many challenges. he's just wrong and we all know that. he's continuing to perpetuate the big lie to some end game which now looks like he's telling folks he's going to be back in the white house in august. this is dangerous. we have every reason to believe this could lead to another january 6th insurrection and nobody is doing anything to hold these folks accountable and stop it. >> one of the problems we got here is very technical is ballots and voting machines. the allowing of a private company who ceos seem to have a dog in this hunt. allowing these people in and removal of ballots and machines from normal chain of custody of
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voters people think they would stay in is problematic. when the state republicans decide to say there is a different results in maricopa county, it now forever more becomes difficult to prove anything. >> right, there is not going to be any way that anyone could come back and replicate these types of audit results that we know they're going to come up with because they destroyed the chain of custody of ballots. we have no idea what they did to equipment that's not usable anymore. somebody needs to come into do a real audit or recount, they would not be able to do that either. >> there are such things as real audits. there are areas of the united states where real audits make sense. in michigan, they conducted an agreement of a post election, this is not just one of those things. >> absolutely. we have statues that prescribe
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post election auditing and recount procedures. what's happening at the coliseum don't need any of those statutory guidelines and election procedure manuals. it is outside the scope of what you had seen in a real audit that you can't even and we are not able to take anything that they come up seriously. >> i was a little surprised by the idea that folks from pennsylvania gone down to look at this, we have already talked about the fact that there is a suggestion of a process like that which is going on in arizona be repeated in georgia. we have more reporting again today in the new york times about donald trump and his connections to the election in georgia. this is performance arts. it is propaganda and it seems to be something that people want to replicate in other states. >> yeah, and it was not surprising to me that they were here.
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this is not the first group of folks that are interested in replicating this kind of thing that had been down there. we have seen that other states are looking to have a quote on quote "arizona style of audit," pennsylvania, georgia, michigan and new hampshire. we know they are writing the play book for this, before this got off the front in arizona, these folks were trying to find where they could get a foot hole to make it happen and it happens to be in arizona. >> what do people in arizona say about this? you are a statewide office holder and you declared you are going to run the governor in arizona. what are people out there talking to, i assume there are a lot of republicans in arizona who are saying this is not what we stand for. this is not conservative policies, it is nonsense. >> there seems to be a small group of, it is not small.
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it is not the majority of voters in arizona that support this kind of thing that believed donald trump and the election in arizona. the 2020 election was over when we certified the results six months ago and that joe biden is the legitimate president of the united states. and they're moving on which most normal people do after an election. if you lose, you have a chance to come back in four years. you don't have a chance to continue to relitigate the election and spread lies about it. honestly, i think most folks in arizona are exhausted about this. they are tired of the partisan politics. they want to move on and have leaders who are going to get solving to real problems. >> i am sure a lot of people are exhausted. you get up early to join us to
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talk about these things. katie hobbs is arizona's secretary of state. thank you for your time. nbc news obtained audio of liz cheney who lost her position. >> i think president trump's continued activities demonstrate the falsity of the idea that if we simply ignore him he'll go away. there are some in my party who are embracing him. there are some who don't want to embrace him who don't want him to be apart of the future of the party of the country but he think that we can get to that point of simply ignoring him. i don't believe that. we have to fight for the truth. we got to build our party back on a foundation that embraces
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the constitution and fidelity of the constitution and that you know we have to be clear to say that a president who did what donald trump did has no role to play in a nation, he simply can't, it is too dangerous. >> let's bring in republican congress hill. he was among the 35 house republicans who voted in favor to investigate the january 6th attack on the capitol. representative hill, it has been a long time since we spoke, i appreciate you joining us this morning. >> you bet, thank you for this invitation. >> you and i would talk regularly, you are a conservative and republican. there is what some people describe as a civil war in the party and where do you think things stand and how do people
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like you with your ideology moving forward with the election. >> it is good to be with you this morning. i would say first both parties have very active voices in them that are in conflict with leadership. pelosi has four votes right now and she has a vocal progressive minority inside the house democratic caucus that's giving her leadership challenges. in the republican caucus, we have issues, too. liz cheney is my friend for 25 years, she's standing in our party. she did not have the confidence of a majority of house republicans to be our spokesperson. as we go forward to the 2022, elections and that's too bad because liz is great. but, we are looking forward to taking the house back at 2022 and talking about our vision of what we want to do of when we accomplish that.
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>> but that's and i would love that and i think a lot of americans would love that to hear what that vision looks like. are you worried that we are stuck on this disagreement of the 2020 election and these things going on in the states? >> the leaderships of both parties have to move forward. president biden has to work with speaker pelosi to do that. like wise the republicans we want to move forward and talk about economic freedom and what we want to do for our families and how we get this country back opening and functioning. their distractions are always in politics. you have to move forward and talk to voters what you would do and you are in charge and that's what we are going to do in 2022. >> we are talking about u.s. funding of israel and the iron
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dome and things like that. >> no, i am simply saying in the past, we had our strong bipartisan support of our partnership, economic, diplomatic and military with the government of israel as our lead ally in a tough region. i see a split now in the democratic party. we lost eliot engel from new york in the last session and eliot was an outspoken for is real and look at what that led to in the past four years where we open up new diplomatic peaceful relations with the gulf states. we always have the right to criticize something we don't
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like with a country. >>. >> talking about big picture partnership. infrastructure is the kind of thing i typically and historically associated more with republicans than democrats. the idea of building things, where do you think we should be on this infrastructure deal that president biden is trying to negotiate? >> yeah, we had a good discussion on that this morning. infrastructure is bipartisan. in the big biden proposal, only 6% of that went to service transportation and if you add in trans related topics, you may get up to 25% of that money. republicans want to target the money and make sure we focus on service transportation. in the last few weeks, the i-40 bridge in memphis in arkansas is
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closed due to an infrastructure of crisis. first, republicans want to target money more towards service transportation, traditional highways related. they are open to new revenue with electric vehicles and there is discussions among house republicans on how to do that. reprogramming money that we appropriated not targeted or not going to be spent is acceptable idea. that gives us a bigger number that he would like to have. and have bipartisan support in the house. but, it does not spend a lot of new funding and top of the trillions that we are spending now. we need to get back to moving our budget towards balance coming out of the pandemic and
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get the economy open. >> all right, good to see you. we have much to talk about. republican congressman french hill. come back soon. the world is inching towards for millions of coronavirus deaths. american leadership the lack there of deserves some of the blame. congresswoman ocasio-cortez is speaking out. that's all coming up on "velshi." coming up on "velshi. it is dirtier than it looks. try tide hygienic clean. before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn?
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a look at donald trump's lasting legty. a recent "new york times" report lays it out. president trump was warned about the pandemic and led to a halting response. his failure to lead led to a lot
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of deaths in the united states. his failure is global. the pandemic requires american leadership. even as we here in the united states are starting to recover, the rest of the world is suffering the side effect of our failure to lead from the start. last spring reports on trump's decision to withdraw u.s. support from the world health organization. just over one year ago, scientific partnership around the world would also be damage and united states could lose influence over health initiatives. the world health organization is not a perfect organization. not even close. but pulling america out without presenting a better solution left our nation once a respected global leader absent from all
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discussions. today, worldwide coronavirus deaths set to 3 million. the early failure of the trump administration to react and lead led to other country. under current projections, many of the rest will have to wait years. joining me now is thomas thomas bollyky. thomas, you and i have talked about this many times and we have been talking since the beginning of this crisis, this global part of it has been ignored. there is a me too phenomenon
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that's going on. >> that's right, i am sorry to say that the united states under go the trump administration pioneered a me first approach vaccine distribution. we prioritize our own supply at home and investing only domestically and ensuring supplies would not move abroad. we also withdrew from the world health organization and did not participate in the multi-lateral initiative to distribute vaccines globally. the difference of course is oxygen masks when you put it on yourself first but they fall everywhere in the plane and it is not just first class and that's what we see globally. >> one of the things i recall
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you saying, we'll have another one of these things at some point and we should be able to figure out well ahead of time how to make sure every region in a world including here at home could manufacture personal equipment necessary. i can't believe there will be places in the world where this vaccine may not reach some people for years. >> i can't believe it either. that's unfortunate the circumstances that we find ourselves in. 2.1 billion vaccine doses administered globally. just nine countries represented three out of every four doses put in arms so far in this vaccine. those nine countries are by and large those countries making them. if you are in africa or central asia and latin america that have
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lagged behind getting access to the vaccines. they want to be able to make vaccines, too. that's not a problem we fully tackle yet. >> americans will say things like u.n. is a flawed organization or the world bank and it arguably all of them are. the world health organization has faced unique criticism and it is the same motto as those organizations. people think the world health organization was in dire need of reform. we pull out as opposed to doing meaningful stuff to reform. there is near universal agreement of the w.h.o. made two mistakes in this crisis. they were too credulous believing what china said early of what was happening in their outbreak and they were a week late in declaring an
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international public health urgency in january. they deserve a lot of credit of how well we see low/middle income country do. we really ham strong the hard effort that w.h.o. have been trying to do that. we also by eliminating ourselves in the conversation, eliminate the ability of the origin of this virus. it comes awfully late and we could not be apart of because we withdrew from the w.h.o. >> why is this a problem? >> it is our problem because at this point, the only thing that undermine all the progress that we have seen with vaccines and
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it is heroic progress over the last four months in rolling out vaccines to americans such wonderful things. i am sure we are seeing our lives being slowly transformed by that. the only thing that can undermine that is a new variant emerging globally. our existed vaccines are not affected. that's a product of under vaccination globally. with each time this virus spreads abroad, there is the opportunity leading to dangerous variants of concerns and that's what i am worried about moving forward. there are still pockets of this country particularly in the southeast that are awfully under vaccinated and we would be enormous risk of a more deadly and easily spreadable virus. that can only be stopped with vaccinating abroad. >> congress, you and i were talking right at the beginning of this crisis and unfortunately everything you worried about came to pass.
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thank you for taking your time to tell us what you are concern about while we are relishing the relief that coronavirus may be behind us. vice president kamala harris arrived in guatemala today. she's been tasked with a job that america struggles with for years, stemming the flow of immigrants at the mexican border. we'll give you a live report from guatemala, next. you a livt from guatemala, next new ways fom to reach you... is what business is all about. it's what the united states postal service has always been about. so as your business changes, we're changing with it. with e-commerce that runs at the speed of now. next day and two-day shipping nationwide. same day shipping across town. returns right from the doorstep, and deliveries seven days a week. it's a whole new world out there. let's not keep it waiting.
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kamala harris will soon head off to central america, she's expected to arrive in guatemala today. now if you recall in march, she was tapped by president biden to be the point person to deal with the border. she's scheduled to meet with many business leaders. i want to go to nbc's kerry sanders. what's the expectations of this visit? what can be done? >> reporter: it is a tall order from the president. look at the estimate last month, we are talking about 22 and
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25,000 unaccompanied minors crossing the border into the united states. that's children making their way into countries known as the northern triangle. some even coming from areas like nicaragua all trying to go there. the vice president coming here trying to solve the problem. she comes with an offer of some goodwill and hundreds of thousands of coronavirus vaccines and offering some har cash and $4 billion investment overtime here to help infrastructures in this country. and quite frankly the u.s. invested in a lot of money in this country and other country before more than a billion dollars just in guatemala in the
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last ten years and the kids keep coming along with others who are migrating north. they see a cycle here if anything will ever improve. listen to a migration expert here in guatemala about what kamala harris faces. >> i don't think the vice president going to guatemala can stem the tie to the united states in the short term. if there is a chance it would be in the long-term. >> long-term meaning -- >> 10 or 20 years. >> reporter: the white house and vice president started tampering down that one visit in guatemala will be solving the problem but it is in a step in the direction recognizing that the u.s. will have a role here. >> i have a minute left. agricultures is a real concern
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around there. >> reporter: it is. it is called the dry quarter because the weather is changing and it is blamed on climate change, part of the emissions over 100 years from the united states putting so much carbon in the air. so they have no irrigation here. they rely on rainfall and listen to an agricultural expert here. >> we talk about historical mission that the amount is just too big where as a small country like honduras and guatemala and el salvador counts for small vision globally. we are affected and that's why we call climate injustice and that's why there is a responsibility from developed countries like the u.s. to help these other countries. >> and of course he mentions it is controversial as the united
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states, our industrial last 100 years responsible for the problems here. that's what they are arguing and that's why they say they need help. the dry quarter in the years they have seen this weather change, crop yields are down 50%. >> that's one of the main outcomes of climate change all over the world. kerry, thank you very kerry san guatemala. june is pride month. this year pete buttigieg made history as the first gay man in office. you are going to talk to pete's husband the next hour. >> yes, his better half. he became a superstar during pete buttigieg's campaign. he became known for telling his
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. moving forward means not only can we ignore it, we need to understand it and address it as a priority. that's the essence of critical race theory, making race and racism central to discussions about u.s. history. it may be uncomfortable but it is important. at least five republican led states banning critical race theory in schools and nine other states considering a ban. one of my next guests write, the bill was ultimately concerned with an imaginary world in
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which -- joining me now is the author of that piece. and aaron hayes, editor at large. both are msnbc contributors. we are seeing people are banning certain types of certifications because it may make people feel bad. i want to read you an article about a texas bill to ban critical race theory. the bill is a reflect direction of a 1964 civil rights act, it echoes dr. king's witch that we should judge people on the content of their character and not their skin.
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>> it just goes to show how much americans need to learn more of the role of race in america. at the end of the day, this is the other national reckoning of races underway and this is the other big lie republicans are continuing to tell that this is a threat that somehow needs to be addressed. the threat of critical race here, the threat of election integrity. neither one of those things are real in this country and what israel is a need for us to have a better understanding of the world of race and racism. you have a president who's saying that systematic in equity is a priority of this administration and he's going to be talking about in tulsa. the department of education at the national level is not going to have a world -- you have
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states like texas and georgia addressing the critical race theory. >> are people misinterpreting this that instead of taing responsibility for things that gone wrong in the past, they are calling it blame or shame or embarrassment or guilt. the idea that they think critical race theory is meant to do those ladder things. let's take responsibilities and make sure we move forward without those stigmas and attachments. >> history is useless unless you can utilize it to understand the mistakes and flaws of the past in the hope of avoiding them in the present and future. what we are seeing now in the state legislatures particularly georgia and texas is the idea of we can't talk about and we can't give an honest assessment of the past because it will make people feel bad. the irony of this, anyone who teaches african-american history
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knows, very often black people encountering a great deal of shame and embarrassment. we have to actually offer a corrective in which we talk about the heroism that's involved and simply surviving the ordeal and pushing the country to actually achieve some degree of democracy that may not otherwise ever obtained. that's the narrative that we really interested in encouraging and all my years of teaching history and all the years i have spent, i have never seen anyone engage in an idea that they want to make white children feel bad. what we want is an accurate accounting of the past and which is something we should be on board with. >> both of you stick around. much more on this discussion after a quick break. scussion after a quick break. now how i feel ♪
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dollar settlements on brain injuries. this is fascinating that we're still having this discussion in 2021. in fact, it was investigated and found that the vast majority of nfl retirees are black and not getting settled with on the same terms as white retirees. >> this is the legacy of inequity and inequality in america that black americans were interior dating back to slavery and how it plays out across various institutions. the nfl among them. this is why things like critical race theory is important. this isn't about making people feel bad. this is about telling the truth about not only the origins of this country but the legacy of those origins and the institutional inequality that
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persists in our country as a result of some of those origins. >> this becomes a issue. if you're learning things that are backed up by evidence regardless of what the intent may be, if it's turning out the black players are not getting the same compensation as white players and there's more than 2,000 claims and only 6 0600 ha received rewards. >> sure. it's invested in the ways and ideas that seem value neutral wind up contributing to and reenshrining racial hierarchies in the society. you go through lots of different legal processes and social policies that all have an impact on black communities. that's one of the things that critical race theory is
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interested in looking at. it's astounding that an institution that's heavily dependent upon black labor as the nfl is just now coming to address something as egregiously racist as this kind of idea and policy. >> erin you were talk about what's going on in georgia with respect to this critical race theory. it's another issue in schools and some part of georgia they are trying to purge the curriculum. if you don't really accept what it is because american history is american history, as we have learned from the 1619 project, now you add stuff and who are we counting onto decide what's appropriate and what's not. what can be taken out. a number of the states are moving to purge what they think of as critical race theory from the curriculums. how does that work practically? >> it's working at that local level and at the state level.
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you have the governor who is running for re-election and using this whole race theory few gain but in cherokee county you saw a meeting attended by hundreds where you have white men e children saying doints want to be called racist because i'm white as if that's what the intent or the effect of critical race theory is. more americans should be talking about race and racism and understanding what critical race theory let alone accept whag it is to teach about these ideas. we're about a month out from the fourth of july holiday where we talk about kind of a lot of the myths of our founding which we can't talk about and celebrate enough. the president said in tulsa last week that nations reckon with the good and the bad parts of a country. that's what a gd nation does. it doesn't whitewash over the
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parts they don't like or don't feel good. >> thank you to both of you for your conversations this morning and writing about this. before we go, i want to say thank you to my friend joshua bellsky. it's his last day as my senior producer. we worked together on and off for the last 15 years or so. during and between the stints together, he's been a great friend, a mentor and overall good dude. that's why this is thank you josh and not a good-bye. we shall collaborate again. that does it for me. thank you for watching velshi. stick around. the sunday show with jonathan capehart begins right now.
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donald trump returns to the political stage as new warnings emerge about the danger he poses to the nation. safeguarding voting rights. democrats are fight back. well, most of them. jobs, the economy, those infrastructure negotiations. labor secretary will be live with an economic reality check. i have something to tell you. chasten buttigieg is here to help kick off pride month. i'm jonathan capehart and this is the sunday show. this first sunday in june we're officially two months away from when the delusional ex-blogger and florida golf club president believes he will be reinstatd as president of the united states. he continued to spread his big
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lie about election fraud. >> it was the third world country election like we've never seen before. look at what took place. that election will go down as the crime of the century and our country is being destroyed by people who perhaps have no right to destroy it. >> sure, jan. laying bear how destructive the big lie can be. he's still being welcomed with open arms by legion of republican lawmakers. congresswoman liz cheney who is no longer gop house chair revealed why she thinks we should all be alarmed. >> i think that the president trump's continued activities demonstrate the falsity of the idea that if we simply ignore him, he'll go away. there are some in my party who are embracing him. there are

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