states from other countries. >> bless you for the work you're doing from rainbow railroad. thank you for talking with me and highlighting all of this. that's going to do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. i'll see you next saturday at noon eastern. my friend, yasmin vossoughian, picks it up from here. good afternoon, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot going on right now, so buckle up as president biden negotiates with republicans on infrastructure. it's a democrat drawing fire from his own party today. new anger at senator joe manchin. i'll tell you what's fueling that anger. donald trump and liz cheney both making news with statements about the continuing fallout from the 2020 election, but only one is actually telling the truth. you might have guessed which one, but i'll tell you that in a moment as well. and then we have an exclusive interview with a prominent january 6th capitol riot suspect. you'll want to hear what he has to say. plus how a shortage of a

computer chip is leading to a crisis for customers looking for a new car, even a rental car. later on this hour, a sports moment. the reaction caught on tape when a golfer leading a pga tournament is told that he cannot continue and it has nothing to do with anything he did on that course. but i do want to start with the anger surrounding an op-ed written by democratic senator joe manchin that says he will not support his party's voting rights bill because in his words it is too partisan, and partisan policy making won't instill confidence in our democracy, it will destroy it. the article drew quick criticism this morning from james cloi burn on "velshi." >> i've read senator manchin's op-ed this morning and i think senator manchin is misrepresenting to the public exactly what's going on here. please, mr. manchin, vote to limit debate so we can set a date and have an up or down vote

on whether or not we are going to have a continuation of voting rights in this country. >> nbc's monica alba is joining us from the white house. great to see you this afternoon, thanks for joining us. so clyburn is not the only one speaking out, reacting from what joe manchin wrote in that op-ed and what he's been saying on the morning shows so far. how is the white house reacting? >> we know that progressive democrats are absolutely slamming what senator manchin did in that op-ed. this is a position the senator has held for a while. he had indicated this is likely where he was heading and where he was going to come down on this. but remember, it was just this week in tulsa where president biden without naming senators manchin and sinema did call out two democratic members who he said incorrectly voted more often with republicans than with democrats. in fact those two senators do not. but what they do sometimes is not say how they're going to vote on something, which then holds up the process for legislation that's important to

the president to continue to move on. so something like this with voting rights, which is critical to the white house and this agenda that they would like to see happen, this really sets up a huge problem for them. so we know that the president does speak with the other very important joe in washington quite frequently. they are in constant communication. so this is something where the press secretary, jen psaki, put it best perhaps this week saying given his experience in the senate, more than 30 years, the president does understand and has a lot of patience, but his patience is not unending. so there may be more political pressure here for him to tell senator manchin, i do need your help in order to get things done. if not, this agenda is going to be quite stalled. of course it's not just voting rights, it's a whole other litany of things. but here's how the west virginia senator defended his position this morning on fox. >> i've been pretty clear on that. i did an op-ed back home in west virginia that came out today and laid out my concerns and my

preference of what -- you know, what i think would happen. voting is the bedrock of our democracy. an open, fair, secured voting. we used to go around the world and explain and show and observe voting procedures in a democracy. and now if we can't practice what we preach and we're going to basically do an overhaul, an 800-page overhaul of the voting rights or what we call for the people act, i think there's a lot of great things that i agree in that piece of legislation but there's an awful lot of things that don't pertain directly to voting. i think it's the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country. i'm not supporting that because i think it would divide us further. >> reporter: so senator manchin spelling out why he supports a different piece of voting rights legislation that has some bipartisan support. lisa murkowski has said she would sign onto that but there don't seem to be a large enough number of other republicans that would support it so it doesn't

seem like either of these bills will go forward even though that's something the president wants to see happen in the month of june. the likelihood of that going down with these latest comments from senator manchin, yasmin. >> while i have you, i need to switch gears for a moment. we're following a developing story involving the vice president who is en route to guatemala. it seems that there was an issue with her airplane. everybody it seems is safe and it's nothing to worry about, but bring us up to date as to what we know. >> reporter: a mechanical problem with air force two forced them to returning and land just moments ago, yasmin. she had taken off with the traveling pool of reporters that is accompanying her on this trip to guatemala and mexico. about 30, 35 minutes ago on schedule. then they were advised mid-flight they needed to turn around because there was something that obviously caused the crew and the pilots to be concerned enough to say we should head back to jba and switch to another aircraft entirely. so they did land without

incident, everybody is okay. a spokeswoman aboard air force two said there's no concern until terms of safety, but they did want to make sure that they had the best aircraft for this international travel, so they'll take a little bit of time, get on a whole new plane and then take off again for guatemala where the vice president will be spending most of tomorrow before she heads to mexico city monday evening where she will spend most of tuesday and where i will be traveling and covering her travels as her first foreign trip kicks off just before the president's own travels of course to the uk, belgium and switzerland, yasmin. >> before i let you go, i want you to bring us up to date. i know you laid out some of what the trip will look like for the vice president. you mentioned this is her first foreign trip abroad as the vice president. the vice president has a lot on her plate, to say the least, leading the biden administration's push on immigration, their plans moving forward. what does the vice president hope to achieve in guatemala? >> reporter: she has specifically been tasked with being the diplomatic liaison between the united states and

the northern triangle countries. guatemala one of them in addition to el salvador and honduras. she won't be traveling to those two countries but after she's in guatemala meeting with the president there, she will come to mexico to visit with the president and have a couple of roundtables and discussions specifically around the root causes of migration, which ironically is something that then vice president joe biden was also put in charge of when he was in office, of course, by then president obama. so this is something that the vice president as you mentioned is just a part of her portfolio. they're hoping with this trip they can make some inroads and demonstrate how she can really handle herself on the world stage since this is someone who of course as a former senator and prosecutor doesn't have that much experience with foreign policy. this will be her first major foray into that. so they want this trip to be a starting point by aides. an issue like this is certainly not going to be solved in one american presidency, let alone

in the next four to eight years. this is a problem that has so many issues and is rooted across so many different spheres that it could probably take decades. but this is something that, you're right, the president has put on her plate in addition to voting rights and expanding broadband access. so she has a lot to work on over this summer, yasmin. >> as you were just speaking, we saw the vice president exiting her plane as she was going to be switching planes there and continuing her trip to guatemala. the press was asking as she exited her plane she gave her signature smile as she always does saying she was okay. she gave her thumbs up saying everything was okay. she repeatedly said that before she proceeded into those doors and waiting for her plane to arrive so she can get back on, reboard along with everybody else and continue on her trip to guatemala. but everybody is safe and sound. i'm sure a little bit of a nervous moment on that plane as they told them they had to turn around, head back and switch planes in order to continue their trip.

monica alba, thanks for sticking with us for that and bringing us up to date. appreciate it. we'll continue to follow this story and bring you any updates as we have them. thanks, monica. i want to bring in jean tim. jean, as we were talking with monica before we went to that breaking news of the vice president, we mentioned what was happening specifically with joe manchin and his op-ed talking about the fact that he is not going to vote for the for the people act. what i thought was interesting about this op-ed is that manchin did not talk about the substance of the bill, he just stuck to the notion of wanting to achieve bipartisan legislation when it came to voting rights. talk us through the substance of what exactly is in the for the people bill. >> yeah. as the senator said it's a very long bill so there's a lot there. the biggest and most important thing is that it essentially creates a federal floor of voting access. every state has different voting

rules. some states vote by mail mostly, some states in person. this says roughly every american should have the same kind of access to depend on. they should be able to vote early, by mail, in person, they should be able to register the same day of an election. there's a bunch of different provisions there. but it also does campaign finance reform. it bans partisan gerrymandering. it is a very long bill with a lot of things jam packed with democratic priorpriorities. but the thing that gets the most attention is this federal floor of access which would change a lot of stuff that i cover. a lot of these state restrictions would essentially be gutted. >> if the for the people bill were to be passed, would that refute some of the legislation we're seeing in states across the country to restrict voting rights? >> yeah, it absolutely kneecaps it. all of these laws that we talk about, and we talk about each state differently because they have different rules to talk

with, it's like death by a thousand cuts where it makes it harder to vote in a lot of different ways. this says everyone will have the same basic access so a lot of these bills that say you can't vote early without this specific i.d. or this specific provision, all of those are out. this would be changed so much when it comes to a slew of voting restrictions across the country. >> let's switch gears. i want to talk about last night, the former president on the stage pushing lies, once again. and then liz cheney, congresswoman liz cheney refuting them. >> 2020 presidential election was by far the most corrupt election in the history of our country. there's never been anything like this. they used covid and they used the mail-in ballots to steal an election. it was the third world country election like we've never seen before. >> i think it's a very real threat and it's an ongoing

threat, and i think that president trump's continued activities demonstrate the falsity of the idea that if we simply ignore him he'll go away. >> it's astounding to me how he continues to spread this lie and people continue to cheer him on with all of this, so just quickly fact check this for us. >> there's just absolutely no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the election, period. it's one of the most monitored, scrutinized, obsessed-over elections by people like me and every law enforcement agency out there that covers this kid of stuff. it really didn't happen. it just point blank didn't happen. there were a handful. i know a couple of cases in pennsylvania where people voted for the president illegally because they believed some of his false claims. we've seen trump supporters try and commit voter fraud but they get caught. it's not an issue in american elections. >> all right, nbc's jane timm, appreciate it.

coming up at 4:00 p.m. we'll dig in on the other democratic holdout on the filibuster, kyrsten sinema. what does she care about coming up in the next hour. and now to a shocking new jailhouse interview with one of the capitol riot suspects. an iraq war veteran from utah has a court hearing tomorrow. he faces charges of assaulting police on january 6th. the fbi has video of him pushing officers and taking their equipment, but copeland says he did not commit a crime. >> did you regret being there now that you've been locked up for a while? do you regret going on the 6th and being in the capitol? >> absolutely not. the lawyers and people in that building, the people that make the laws, they're so out of touch with the average individual. >> i want to bring in a reporter who got that exclusive interview with our washington, d.c., nbc

station. scott, thanks for joining us. an incredibly dramatic interview to say the least. what else did copeland have to say? >> this call happened in the middle of the night when he got access to a phone in utah, which is home state. i'm surprised he called and agreed to speak on the record, agreed to let me record, because his case is still in its infancy and hasn't even entered a not guilty plea. there was no lawyer with him when he spoke. and because he faces among the most serious charges of the 490-plus people charged so far, including assault on police. he's accused of grabbing a police riot shield and knocking a police officer over. i asked him about those allegations. here's what he had to say. >> do you understand why you're charged with the crime? does it make sense to you? >> i don't -- i don't think i committed a crime. i didn't -- you know, i have the capability to where i could have hurt those other individuals, but i didn't hurt them. one of them pushed me, i pushed him back.

one of them pushed me with his riot shield, i took his riot shield from him. one of them pushed me with their baton and i took his baton from him. i don't feel like i was doing anything wrong. there was no signs that said authorized personnel only, there was no barriers. >> and there's another reason he's a prominent defendant. in may during a proceeding, he had an outburst screaming vulgarities at the judge, telling the judge she was a robot. we'll see what happens tomorrow. his hearing is at 10:00 a.m. d.c. time virtually from his jailhouse in utah. >> it must have been shocking to get that call in the middle of the night and hear who was on the other end. did he talk to you about why he wants to speak out? >> he wants to say a lot about his case. he felt like he was being squelched by the judge so he has a lot on his chest he wants to get off of his chest. he still says he has questions about the 2020 election. he still says donald trump is a

great president and he faces all those charges, the top one being the most important or most significant of those felonies, assault on police. >> and that's exactly why some of the things the former president said last night are so incredibly dangerous, just fueling this conspiracy theory and making people believe as if the election was stolen from them when in fact it was not. scott macfarlane, thank you. we are following breaking news this hour. vice president kamala harris waiting to depart for guatemala after a technical issue forced her to return to joint base andrews. we also have new reporting on an effort by donald trump's chief of staff in his last days in office to strong arm the justice department to investigate the ridiculous claims when it came to the election. how a global computer chip shortage will cost you big if you're buying or renting a car of course. up next, a big announcement from prince harry and meghan markle. stay with us. an markle stay with us

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welcome back, everybody. we are following that breaking news from joint base andrews. vice president kamala harris' first foreign trip since taking office has been interrupted due to a technical issue with her plane. harris departed from washington just about an hour ago but the plane had to turn around given that technical issue. it came back to joint base andrews moments ago and is planning to board a new plane shortly. she is headed to guatemala to discuss with leaders how to curb the surge of migrants into the u.s. nbc's kerry sanders is in antigua, guatemala, covering this for us. kerry, great to see you as we've been following this breaking news. it seems the vice president will have a little bit of a delay in her arrival there, but how could this impact the schedule once she gets to guatemala, kerry? >> reporter: anybody who's ever been on a business trip where it started on an airplane and there was a meeting to attending and there was a delay, even if you're on air force two in comfort, it's a little added

exhaustion. she will arrive a little later. there will be a ceremony, a very small one but a lot of people waiting for her. then she will go to her hotel. there were no planned meetings or remarks here today when she lands so it's about a four hour 20 minute flight down. she will arrive. actually the new air force two as you understand every time the vice president gets on a plane that is dubbed air force two in the same way no matter what plane the president is on is called air force one. she'll get here, go to her hotel and she doesn't have anything planned until 9:15 local time here. we're in the central time zone, same as if we were in like chicago. so she should get a good night's rest and traveling in probably better comfort on air force two than most of us squeezed into coach class on a long plane. at the end of the day this is one of those moments that it does not portend well. she has a very big agenda here to try to figure out how to solve the crisis of not only

migration but children arriving at the border. we're talking about 22,000 to 25,000 just in the last month coming from here in guatemala, coming from el salvador, coming from honduras. so a smooth start to this would have been nicer. at the end of the day if something is achieved, people will look back and say, okay, her plane had a technical problem, not a big deal. one of the pool reporters traveling onboard was able to get a message out in flight. it said due to a technical issue with the vice president's plane, we are returning to joint base andrews where the vice president will switch planes and then travel on to guatemala. it is a technical issue with no major safety concerns. of course that's the most important thing we all worry about is when any plane could have a technical issue. of course we're talking about the biden administration vice president kamala harris onboard that plane. >> as i mentioned to monica, it's got to be a little anxiety-inducing to be told that the plane that you're currently

flying on has a technical issue and you've got to turn around. but of course the pilots wanting to be as safe and secure as possible. i'm sure we'll learn more about this as the day progresses and hopefully what she accomplishes goes better than the beginning of this trip. kerry sander, thank you for now. in new york, more than 100 people were safely rescued after the ferry they were on ran aground in brooklyn. marine units were nearby and were able to respond within minutes after the ship ran aground on a shoreline. one crew member was taken to the hospital with minor injuries. so the global shortage of a tiny but critical computer chip has sent the automobile industry into a state of panic. dealerships and manufacturers are being plagued by rental car shortages, sky high prices which some experts fear could last more than a year. general motors hopes to increase shipments of pickup trucks to dealers. they have blamed the chip shortage for forcing it to pause

production at several plants for weeks at a time. joining me now is the auto reporter for "the new york times." neil, great to talk to you this afternoon. appreciate you joining us. >> glad to be here. >> is this car shortage solely due to the chips, or has the pandemic itself contributed to this shortage? >> yeah, there are two factors there. if you go back to last spring, a year ago, most auto plants in north america shut down because of the pandemic. a period of 60 days over three months. and that crimped the supply of vehicles. then they had to reboot those plants and get them back running again. so there were fewer automobiles made last year than normally would be. then when you throw the chip problem on top of that, it's a real issue and there are historically low inventory levels. some companies with just 15 or 20 days' supply of vehicles to

sell. >> that's insane. so it's not just gm as i mentioned. as you mentioned in your piece, it's ford expecting to produce half the number of cars. tesla's elon musk saying he's never seeing anything like this. tell me, how bad is this? and how could this affect consumers? >> well, i've been covering the auto industry for 20 years. i've never seen anything like this before. it is bad. for consumers, you're going to pay top dollar. if you want to go out and buy a car, there's not much room to bargain. there are not a lot of incentives out there. back in the day we had employee pricing and $5,000 cash back. most of that has dried up completely. so consumers are paying pretty close to list prices for new cars. dealers are scrambling to get cars anywhere they can. >> so if you're looking to get a deal on a new car, likely now is

not the time to get one. >> correct. >> somebody who travels a lot in their job and these rental cars a lot, there's a huge short annual on that end as well. it's almost impossible for me to find a rental car sometimes, especially in smaller towns. >> that's true. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say that's true. rental car companies stopped buying cars during the pandemic and now they're short of supply to use for rentals. >> it's tough to find one. neal boudette, thank you. good to see you. big breaking news from prince harry and meghan. plus, he was winning a pga tournament when he was told he had to leave. a dramatic sports moment caught on live tv. stay with us. before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? for all-day, all-night protection. it's coming back to you now...

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welcome back, everybody. we have some breaking baby news. prince harry and meghan are the parents of a healthy new baby girl. matt bradley is at buckingham palace for us covering this

story. matt, great to see you. give us the reaction so far from the royal family and tell us the significance of the name. >> reporter: we just heard from the royal family. it is breaking news but it's been nearly 48 hours between when the actual birth happened and the formal announcement was made. we just heard in the past two hours a reaction from the royal family. they said they were delighted at the news and then a tweet also from the royal family also saying that they were delighted at the birth of lili. that is short for lilibet which is a nickname that was actually given to queen elizabeth ii, the current resident of buckingham palace, and she was called that when she was very, very young as a child. so this is very much a nod to lilibet's great grandmother, queen elizabeth ii. her second name, diana.

of course prince harry's late mother and that is another nod to another member of the royal family. so it's interesting because the royal family, this part of the royal family and they are still technically royals, lilibet is going to be eighth in the line of succession after her brother, 2 years old master archie at the tender age of 2 he's called master. he is seventh in line after his father, prince harry. so they are royals. actually what's interesting here is that this naming convention that they have just shown, they're harking back to the royal family that they have really in so many ways left over the last couple of years. you know, it's really interesting, normally we would see the royal birth at st. mary's hospital here in london. instead we're seeing this far, far away from london in california. of the 11 great grandchildren that the current monarch queen elizabeth has, this is the first one born outside of great

britain. so it is a pretty momentous occasion and shows even as the sussexes are so far away, on the other side of the world from where i am in london, this name shows that they really are trying to secure, to maintain, to nod to their connections to the royal family. remember, master archie, that name doesn't come from anyone within the royal family. it was a completely original name. so this really shows a connection to back here in london, yasmin. >> and by the way, my 2-year-old thinks he's the master. he's not. nbc's matt bradley -- >> maybe he is. >> he's not. at buckingham palace, thank you. stoil come, filibuster or bust. a deep dive into the two democratic holdouts with new comments fueling new anger within the party. first in the spotlight, you don't want to miss this, host of the global reboot podcast previews the president's first overseas trip and the challenges

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welcome back, everybody. we're still following that breaking news story. moments ago vice president kamala harris' plane had to be turned around after a technical glitch. her first foreign trip has been interrupted. take a listen to when she landed back on joint base andrews. >> are you okay? >> i'm good, i'm good. yeah. we all said a little prayer but we're good. >> we all did a little prayer if you didn't hear that, but we're good. when you're told that your plane has technical difficulties. harris is expected to board a second plane shortly. she is headed to guatemala and mexico. all right, everybody, so president biden's first oversees trip starting thursday as well will include meetings with boris johnson, turkish president erdogan and an audience with queen elizabeth. biden is set to conclude his trip with a face-to-face meeting

with russian president vladimir putin. it is coming as the u.s. looks to boost global vaccine sharing. the effort is for the sole purpose of improving public health and helping end the pandemic. that wish, an end to the global pandemic, is the focus of today's in the spotlight. in each episode, my next guest looks at one major challenge in the aftermath of covid-19, how world leaders can turn the crisis into opportunity and what we should be optimistic about for the years ahead. let's listen. >> my knowing that in glasgow the world did set out on a path where we have a real slot and the best shot of holding the earth's temperature to 1.5 degrees and heading towards a future that is 2050 net zero. that all of that is achievable because the world came together in glasgow to make it possible.

i'll have plenty of rum on that one. >> i do have a mix of optimism and concern. the things that give me hope, first of all, is a rising interest in -- and appreciation of public health. and the rising focus and interest on inequities and disparities. >> science is going to move much, much faster and it's going to be more collaborative, more global. anybody who's not deeply global, deeply engaged in global science is just going to be left out. nobody will ever make this claim about an american vaccine or american science again. >> so joining me now is ravi agrawal, host of the global reboot podcast. ravi, thanks for joining us on this. i appreciate it. i really enjoyed listening to your podcast. i thought it was fascinating, especially when you talked to secretary kerry and asking why he's even doing this when he could be having a rum punch at this career. >> thank you for having me on and for listening to the

podcast. >> some of the sound that we played was in response to the question that you asked in both of those separate podcasts in talking about what was the optimism. what did we learn from these experiences. with secretary kerry it was about the environment and with doctors it was about the covid response or lack thereof in this country or so many countries around the world. why did you decide to focus this podcast so much on optimism? >> well, because we need it frankly. it's been a year. it's been a very difficult year here in the united states, but all over the world. for much of the world it is still a very difficult time. the u.s. of course is beginning to emerge from the pandemic, but for many people in the global south especially there's a long road ahead. they're just much further behind in being able to vaccinate people. beyond all of that, the larger point to me with this podcast was to look beyond this year. what are the lessons that the world has learned from this last year of being in the lockdown but not just that, what are the

lessons we have learned in terms of combatting the world's biggest challenges from climate change to global public health to technology. it's just a great moment to try to do some blue skies thinking as we're all looking back to re-emerge and re-engage with the world. >> it's interesting because i felt like another theme of your podcast was what do you do in a post-trump era. what does foreign policy look like in a post-trump era considering the failings that happened and the covid response and all decisions made by the trump administration, specifically, you know, pulling out of the paris climate accord and kerry's reaction to that and how we build back better from that, right? how do we re-establish trust on the foreign stage? how do we? >> that's a great question and i think we're all still coming to grips with the answers to that question. but look, we may have the beginnings of a road map. and the beginnings of that road map is to talk to each other, is to return to an era of

multilateralism, is to go back to the time when countries tried to take on the big problems by looking to not just unilateral solutions but global solutions. we'll see that with president biden's trip to europe later this week. but we are also seeing that in the way in which the world is talking about how unless you vaccinate everyone everywhere, you're not safe wherever you are. the large trending of the last five, six years has been insularity, the growth of nationalism within various countries. i think as we re-emerge from the trump era, that is probably the biggest thing to untangle, to reverse from, not just in the united states but in many other countries around the world which has seen similar trumpist movements or trumpism tendencies and are looking for ways to sort of get out of that. >> ravi, before i let you go, i just want you to weigh in on what is happening in israel

right now. what does a post-netanyahu era look like? >> those governments are is it not as stable and can be brought down by a no confidence motion easily. what unites this group, essentially 61 seats in the parliament, is their dislike for netanyahu, their unified desire to bring down a man who's been in power since 2009 and who has done everything he possibly can to stay in power and to avoid trial for a range of offenses he's allegedly committed but for which there seems to be mounting evidence. i think what's going to happen next is likely this group, which we still don't exactly know what they stand for. it's a very disparate alliance of eight very different groups across a wide ideological spectrum. for starters i think we'll see them try to sort of create power, build power, hold on to that power for a little bit and then we take it from there.

but it's very unclear as to what they stand for, what their politics will look like, what it will mean for israel and also the region. >> ravi agrawal, thank you so much. tune into the global reboot podcast wherever you get your podcasts. new episodes drop every wednesday. let me know what podcast you love and we'll try to feature it. coming up, everybody, new reporting on the 11th hour efforts by former president trump and his chief of staff to enlist the justice department's help to overturn the 2020 election results. what emails reveal about the pressure to investigate outlandish conspiracy theories. ] i may not be able to tell time, but i know what time it is. [whispering] it's grilled cheese o'clock. you'd never want leftover onion residue or any food residue on any of your surfaces. but i know what time it is. but that's what you could be doing if you're cleaning with a used dishcloth,

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votes from mr. trump to votes for joseph r. biden jr. it's so ridiculous even when i'm reading it. i do have to read this. the times report that rosen never agreed to open investigations and people close to rosen say he in fact did not. what do you make of this effort by meadows? >> as someone who spent 19 years at the department of justice, i think it's disgusting to see an attempt to abuse it in this way. first and foremost, what i see here is a violation of the policy about communication between the white house and the justice department for this very reason. there is a very strict rule about the channel of communication between the white house and the department of justice to avoid either the reality or appearance of partisan politics motivating an investigation. so that's the first problem. but only overshadowed by the second problem, which is the substance of it. to ask for there to be an

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welcome back, everybody. a devastating moment for a pro golfer leading the pga memorial golf tournament this weekend all caught live on air. after building a commanding six-stroke lead, jon rahm was told that he had tested positive for covid, forcing him to withdraw from the tournament. the golfer appeared visibly upset while announcer jim nantz was left stunned, not knowing what happened. >> special start time tomorrow, live tomorrow. jack, we look forward to sharing it once again with you here on cbs. >> thank you, jim. >> what's going on here?

somebody just gave jon some news. this is not good. >> quite a moment. rahm is now required to isolate for ten days unless he is negative on two covid tests 24 hours apart. that puts him in isolation before june 15th, two days before the start of the u.s. open. we are approaching the top of the hour and this is msnbc reports with yasmin vossoughian. hi again, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. for those of you still with us, thank you. for those of you just joining, welcome. we've been following breaking news all hour. vice president kamala harris' plane had to return to joint base andrews as she was departing for her first foreign trip to guatemala. nbc's kerry sanders is in antigua, guatemala, where the vice president is expected to arrive later this morning. kerry, great to see you once

again. talk us through the vice president's trip who will undoubtedly be arriving later than expected today. >> reporter: well, let me tell you a little about her flierkts flight, first of all. it was not an emergency, it was a technical issue. when the vice president is on a plane it's referred to as air force two. so it returned back, landed safely. she got off. she is still on the ground right now. she will be getting back on another plane, which of course will be dubbed air force two. she'll get on that plane and then she will make her way down here. so it delays her departure on a very important mission. this is her first foreign diplomatic mission where she's coming here to speak to the president of guatemala to discuss the issue in the region here. often referred to as the northern triangle, guatemala, el salvador and honduras, where we see not only migrants making their way north to the u.s. border but we're talking in the last month somewhere between

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