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unprecedented war in democracy. now going to be aided and abetted by at least two democratic senators, joe manchin of west virginia announced he will be voting against a democrats sweeping reform bill known as for the people act. in an op-ed in the charleston mail the conservative democrat writes, quote, the right to vote is fundamental against our democracy and it should not be against policy or politics least of all. it should never be done in a partisan manner. the problem, it's already been done in a partisan manner. it's been done. at least 14 states have enacted new republican laws this year, placing restrictions on the casting of ballocht ts. out of 389 bills as of mid-may in 48 states, which basically means joe manchin thinks voting is fundamental.

he says voting is fundamental but doesn't want to do what needs to be done to save it. he writes further, quote, whether it is state laws that seek to needlessly restrict voting or politicians who need to restrict our elections, policy making won't instill confidence in our democracy. it will destroy t it's not partisanship. it's not both sides restricting voting or preventing the elections. it's only republicans. congressional action on federal voting rights legislation must be the result of both democrats and republicans coming together to find a pathway forward or we risk further dividing and destroying the republic we swore to protect and defend as elected officials. why should it be bipartisan while republican lectures at a state level is totally partisan? it makes so sense. the gop is waging asymmetric

warfare with manchin's permission and even encouragement. west virginia senator seems to think that his party should be able to get the seven lks who voted to convict trump on board. seven is not ten. even if they could get the seven republican pals to vote for s-1, it would not be enough to get past his own filibuster threshold. maybe as i said before oon this show, manchin is not very bright. maybe simple math is beyond him. maybe he doesn't understand what's happening at a state level. that may be the most charitable explanation. i would love to have asked him but he has repeatedly turned us down when it comes to an interview. even if the problem of joe manchin was solvable, he isn't the only problem in a democratic caucus. >> i've long been a supporter of the filibuster because it is a tool that protects the democracy of our nation rather than allowing our country to ricochet wildly every two to four years back and forth between policies.

the reality is that when you have a system that's not working effectively, and i would think that most would agree that the senate is not a particularly well-oiled machine, right, the way to fix that is to change your behavior. >> that was senator kyrsten sinema tuesday at an appearance at the border with republican senator jon cornyn. no behavior has been changed by the filibuster. zeero zip, nada. that's one of the five biggest myths about the filibuster that keeps getting pitched by sinema, manchin. actually, it's the opposite. senators know they don't have to compromise as long as the other side doesn't have the ten votes to overcome the threshold. nine gop senators didn't show up to the january 6th commission vote. filibuster protects democracy. nope. what begans as a means to cut off a senator during a long

debate is now the means for the minority to block any and all lenlsilation. 54 votes and still lose to 35 votes that's not democracy. myth number three, filibuster comes from the founding fathers. do we indict the u.s. education system for this myth? the senate didn't see its first filibuster until 1841. myth number four there hasn't been any big increase in the use of the filibuster. >> you know what? i'm going to let the orange in that graph do all the talking about the rise of the filibuster over the last century, and especially recent decades. myth number five, the filibuster, it helps and hurts each party equally. no! complete and utter nonsense. as my good friend and msnbc colleague chris hayes pointed out friday only two things the gop cares about is tax cuts and judicial nominations, none of which are affected by the filibuster. whereas democrats want to pass legislation and govern. they get screwed again and again by the filibuster. joe biden is getting screwed by

it right now. it's asymmetric war fare by the right and now scarily, the future of our democracy is on the line. bob case fri pennsylvania. good evening, senator. thank you so much for joining me on the show tonight. i've been furious, furious since i read joe manchin's ridiculous, incoherent op-ed this morning. what's your reaction? aren't you furious to see a former democrat come out against the for the people act this way? >> i totally disagree with his analysis about where we are with regard to for the people and where we are generally with regard to senate rules. i don't take it, though, as the final word on this topic. there's still a good ways to go. really in the senate we've just begun the debate. june will be the -- this month is going to be the month where we begin to really engage. i think we have to keep making the case about what this bill does. basic national standards to make sure all americans can vote in a

way that's best for them. it reduces the power of big money, corporate money to buy elections, dark money. and it makes the corrupt. having said that, i don't think that there's any way you can say right now that what republicans are doing at the state level, which is where their work is being done on voter suppression -- >> yes. >> -- i don't think there's any way you can make the case that that is anything but partisan, ideological war fare at the state level. the only way to remedy that is for the people. we've got to get it done. i don't think this op-ed or anything else that was said recently is the final word. we've got a good ways to go on that. >> i'm glad to hear you say that. though maybe i'm not as optimistic as you. what can be done to win over the manchins and sinemas in your caucus? is there any leverage? they seem pretty stubborn.

>> this is one of those issues where probably the most important work will be done at each individual state. so if you're a senator who is opposed to the bill as drafted and this bill will obviously undergo some changes, but at the state level, that's where i think the engagement has to take place. absent this legislation, the democratic party and democracy itself will be undermined in every state. not just pennsylvania. not just a blue state or purple state, but every state. red states will be hurt. >> yeah. >> and the scenarios for the next decade are harrowing, for both the democratic party and maybe more importantly, democracy itself. i don't think anyone wants to see an america that a lack of success on senate bill one would mean. it would be a terrible america. >> i think what you're saying is exactly an undeniably right. it is harrowing. it is a threat to both the

democratic party but democracy itself. i don't understand why he doesn't sigh sooe that. dose say in his op-ed that he believes fellow democrats are being hypocritical. a bunch of democrats signed a letter defending the filibuster. i believe you were one of them. >> right. >> now you support, rightly in my view, reforming that filibuster. >> some of us came to different conclusions at different times and maybe some are still arriving, i hope, at that conclusion, that the abuse of the filibuster, the 60-vote rule, was never the intention of it. as your chart indicates and i think the myths that you all are accurate, unfortunately, we didn't want to see it that way. we kept believing in the senate of old that does not exist any longer. this is a perpetual blockade. your reference earlier to what chris hayes said, it's really

for republicans on the 60-vote rule. head ice win, tails you lose. as you said and chris said, they don't want to pass up legislation other than tax policy, stopping the affordable care act and confirming right-wing judges. that's their whole agenda. we want to do policy on climate change, immigration. that's the big difference. >> on that note, sorry to interrupt. before we run out of time, joe biden is meeting with republicans tomorrow to talk infrastructure. he has come down already by $600 billion. >> right. >> to try to make a deal. is this the aca all over again? is this health care 2009, republicans running down the clock, making democrats reduce the size of a bill they have no plans to vote for anyway? >> i think president biden is probably in the last chapter of that engagement, because i think we're at the fish or cut bait

moment, which i said would be in this month. regardless of deal or no deal, what i call physical infrastructure only, we need a big, bold, multi-trillion dollar bill. >> yes. >> that covers the jobs plan and family plan. democrats will have to do the work with 50 votes plus vice president harris. that will be hard but i think we can get it done. >> it will be hard especially when you have colleagues like joe manchin. good luck, senator. appreciate you taking time out. coming up, did the capitol rioters win? how dangerous it could be for our democracy. plus why is reality winner paying the price? i'll talk to her family trying to free her ahead. y trying to free her ahead.

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in his infuriating, yet deeply consequential op-ed senator joe manchin write congressional action must be democratic rk and democrats coming together. senate republicans agree with the underlying ideological claim of the rioters, which is that democratic electoral should not be recognized. so does the future of voting rights depend on democrats coming together with a party that does not view their electoral victories as legitimate? joining me now to talk about "the cruelty is the point, the past, present and future of trump's america." adam, thanks for coming back on the show. having this to say about joe manchin's op-ed. have a listen. >> it's also the case that this

idea of bipartisanship is not something that should have inherent value when the other side is actively working to dismantle our democracy. now we have the opportunity to actually do something about it and senator manchin would rather preserve jim crow on some outdated theory of bipartisanship that frankly does not exist in the same way today as it did a generation ago. >> adam, how much of what the modern gop is do willing and what joe manchin is helping them to do about jim crow 2.0, white dominance, white spremsny this country? >> well, so, i -- senator manchin probably has in mind memories of reauthorizations of the voting rights act of 1965, which i might add that stopped be -- that started being controversial fairly recently. obviously, the roberts court gutted a big section of the voting rights act. in the 1860s when the

republicans were trying to reconstruct the federal government and after the civil war put the country back together, they realized that the south did not want to accept black suffrage. they didn't say we're not going to do black suffraj unless the republicans go along. they just did it, to make sure that the newly emancipated could vote. what happened in the 1960s is because the parties were polarized ideological will and regionally. republicans were willing to cross the aisle to give vote force the voting rights act of 1965. they were willing to do that right up until the bush administration. they're not willing to do that anymore. what manchin is saying is if the republicans don't want democratic constituencies to be able to vote that's the end of the story, because he's not going to help democrats do anything about it. 's probably not only one. truth, he's probably taken the

fire for more liberal democrats in bluer states who don't want to come out and say t the truth is that that's what they're saying woochlt ergiving republicans a veto over whether or not our own constituents have an unfettered right to vote. >> 100% agree with you on the last point. there's another four, five, six senators who want to keep the filibuster for some misguided, bipartisanship dreaming reason. adam, today is five months to the day since the insurrection. modern gop supports the goals if not the tactics, violence or insurrectionists. why are so many democrats who still believe in bipartisanship, sinema, manchin, unnamed senators we know are out there. why are they unable to see the obvious point that's in front of their noses? >> i wouldn't begin to speculate. i will point out that, you know, on the day of january 6th, a lot of republicans were embarrassed.

they condemned what happened with the rioters as terrorism. they forcefully condemned the alcohols of the rioters. but since then, saying that the election was stolen or at least being silent when other people say the election is stolen has become the price of goodstanding in the republican party. that joe biden rightfully won, you risk getting yourself purged especially if you have a position of leadership like liz cheney, who was recently removed from that position a few weeks ago, because she insisted that it's not true, that the election was stolen. even people like liz cheney are not opposing these laws in the states, these state laws that republicans are passing in an effort to restrict the voting rights of democratic constituencies so they can maintain the power. they're not opposing that. they might oppose the capitol riot.

they're not opposed to the idea that republicans should reshape election law in order to better ensure that republicans win. which is what they see is the larger problem, not this -- not the issue of the capitol riot which is simply a symptom. >> i'm so glad you mentioned liz cheney. joe manchin said well, what about the seven republican senators who voted to convict? i thought about liz cheney who voted to impeach donald trump but is totally fine, as you say, with voter suppression bill as she said in a latest axios piece. you said, quote, same relinls and racial polarization that is fueling the republican has turned against democracy has turned the democratic party. into a institution. they can't get everybody behind one cause. that's a challenge for the democrats isn't it?

manchin, big setback for biden's agenda. what can be done, if anything? >> democrats have an ideologically, racially, religiously diverse coalition. they have conservatives, liberals, moderates. they have christians, muslims, jews. the republican party by identity is a white christian party. it's not entirely that way. obviously we saw them win over a larger number of latino voters, trump did the first time around. but what that means is the party with a more ideologically and racially diverse constituency doesn't have the same unity of action as a party that is as homgenous as the republican party. we've seen this over and over. we've actually seen the parties be reversed but be in the same position when the democratic party was the party of segregation and the white identity and republican party was a party of the black vote. you saw similar problems.

the broader of your constituency, you may be able to carry a majority but won't be able to get everybody on the same page as if your party were smaller and culturally cohesive. >> sadly, i think you're right about that. adam, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us on the show tonight. >> thanks for having me. next, biden says the u.s. will share millions of vaccines globally. great. but why did it take so long? why not do it when hundreds of thousands of people were dying in india and are still dying? we're warming up my timer for the 60-second rant about that. >> first, richard lui is here with the deadlines. hey, richard. >> hey, mehdi. vice president harris is en route to guatemala, first foreign trip in office. she'll also step stop in mexico city. the focus of her trip is on economic development, climate, food insecurity, and women and young people. the 77th ant ann versery of

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intercept. i was there around that time. however, i was not involved in that story whatsoever. after the story was published, though, the leak was traced back to reality winner. she was denied entail sentenced to more than five years, five years in federal prison, where she remains today. it was the longest sentence ever imposed by a federal court in this country for the unauthorized release of government information to the media. so, should president biden now pardon her? joining me is reality's mother, and reality's sifrt, brittany winner. thank you both for joining me on the show tonight. billie, can i start with you? how is reality doing in prison? how is your daughter right now? >> well, my daughter is still not home. she's still not free. as you stated, reality was arrested. she was arrested june 3rd of 2017, and she is still not home with us today. you know, that in and of itself is a travesty.

my daughter has suffered since her arrest in 2017. that's why we believe it's time for her to come home. to enjoy her life, to be free. even after reality is released from custody, she still has to serve another three years of supervised release, where she'll be under very strict conditions. >> wow. >> my question is, what purpose does this even serve? my daughter is no threat to anyone. my daughter has no criminal history whatsoever. she's a decorated united states veteran, who only served her country. and her actions, her actions were in the best interest of our country. but her charge under the espionage act didn't allow her to have a motive. >> no. and that's always a problem with that particular act. you mentioned her actions. brittany, let me ask you -- let's go back and talk about how we got here.

what made your sister decide to take that action then? does she still stand by her choice four years later? >> well, it turns out she's not actually allowed to talk about it. she's not allowed to talk about it with me or anybody else essentially for the rest of her life. so i don't think i'll ever actually know. but we, as her family and a lot of other people who support her believe she did the right thing. we believe that she released information that america needed to know and that americans needed to know about the 2016 presidential election. and so knowing that and given that, we believe that reality should be released. she should be given clemency. she should be given a pardon and president biden owes reality gratitude because her actions directly contributed to the fact that the 2020 elections were the most secure presidential elections in american history and so mr. biden is president because of reality winner's actions and, therefore, he should pardon her. >> it's interesting the way you

phrase that, brittany. a, the election was secure because of her. b, joe biden was able to become president in a secure election because of her. what is happening with the case for clemency? can you tell us? are you any closer to it? are you hearing any good news from this administration, any positive vibes? i know your campaign is getting a lot more publicity. we are delighted to have you both on the show tonight. is there any update you can give us? >> there's no update for now. >> unfortunately -- >> brittany, then billie. >> sure. so we haven't heard anything. it's been radio silence. and that's kind of the most disappointing thing about this whole situation, is that we believe once the administration changed, once joe biden was sworn in as president this january of 2021 that we would hear something good, that we would hear that he knows about reality and that he's working on it, or at least something. as my mom will tell you just now, we haven't heard a thing.

>> billie, is there a message you want to make to joe biden or members of his administration who are watching this right now? >> yes. you know, i had been writing to joe biden daily and sending him messages, and calling the white house, trying to speak with him daily for the first five months of his preg -- of his presidency, sorry. i received a memo that they received my correspondence and were forwarding it to another agency. this was very heartbreaking to me because it told me they weren't listening. that perhaps even president biden hadn't seen my messages, hadn't heard what i was asking for, because this really is in his hands right now. my daughter has a petition for clemency with the united states pardon attorney, and all it's

going to take is for his signature to commute her sentence, to bring her home to us. and i believe that she deserves this. you know, the trump administration persecuted reality so strongly because of the information she released. and the continued silence from this administration is a continued persecution. >> those are strong words from a mother and a campaigner. billie, brittany, we appreciate both of you coming on the show. appreciate your campaign i do hope people in the administration are watching and listening. thank you for being with us tonight. coming up, naftali bennett could be israel's next prime minister. is he any better than benjamin netanyahu? i'll talk to one of his top advisers george burbaum. and coming up on "the week

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imagine if donald trump had been voted out of office back in november and been replaced by ted cruz. would that have really been a cause for celebration? a sign of any kind of real change in the american government? because that's kind of what's happening in israel right now, even though as with most such analogies it's far from perfect. benjamin netanyahu's 12-year run

as prime minister is likely to come to an end this week. naftali bennett, who has bragged is he even more right-winged than netanyahu. as i pointed out on peacock on thursday, bennett has a long history of saying awful things, like palestinians used to swing in trees or he has no problem killing arabs. still, to be fair to him, he has agreed to form a coalition with an arab politician. he has also agreed to hand over the prime ministership to lapir in two years time. george burbaum who, like bennett, served as benjamin netanyahu's chief of staff at one point in time. thank you so much for coming on the show tonight. your boss, naftali bennett, the guy you're advising, has agreed

to form a coalition agreement in which he becomes prime minister now and lapid in two years' time. never and under no circumstances will i ever lend a hand to the establishment of a government o. just a few weeks ago, he called him a terrorist supporter. now he's happy to work with him. was bennett being racist then or open opportunistic now or what is going on here? >> i believe either. i think, you know, leadership, real leadership means having sometimes adjust and even evolve in terms of your point of view. remember, he was against a two state solution when he said he was for one after the bush peace plan was ushered in. and benjamin netanyahu was against two state solution until he was in 2009 in which he finally accepted the idea of a two state solution in at the

palestinians. so i think bennett is in a position now that he is potentially going to become prime minister realizes that his views may have to evolve a little bit. he's taken a very brave step. he included the longest party in an official coalition and state of israel. first time in history. he is making the coalition with other political parties that are die met rickly opposed to his views:this will be a real test of leadership. it is a first israel to have such a government. and a lot of political action as well to navigate the waters. this isn't kuwait to same over time. there is the space of a few weeks and i quote, never under no circumstances, never, will i lend a hand to the establishment of a government led by him. now he does it a few weeks later

to get power. if you're an israeli voter, why should you believe anything bennett sayshe? just broke his word blatantly. >> i think the two men got together. they looked each other in the eye. they realized they could trust each other. while there were political foes for many years, they had to put both of them, had to put the interest of the state of israel out of their own personal interest. . that is the definition of leadership. >> let's talk about some of the other things, george that, bennett has said in the past. you reportedly said to the national security advisors, i kill lots of arabs in my life. and there is no problem with that. you told a legislators life luf, when you were still swinging from trees, we had a jewish state here. that is far right racist rhetoric, is it not? >> yeah. listen, i don't think i was with him at that point.

he certainly has been very hawkish in the past. he represented the settler movement for a period of time. but he is feeling it. i think he's going to be very responsible. remember, the announcement of shah hone, sharon was hauled as a peacemaker later in life. i think politicians can evolve. this is a reason in which i think everyone deserves to live. everyone deserves to see their children grow up in peace and security. i'm very hopeful this will do it for everybody. >> i mean, george, you're right. some people did hail aerial sharon despite his bloodstain past as a peacemaker. of a lot of palestinians didn't.

if if you were a palestinian citizen of israel, how you would feel about having a prime minister who once referred to you as swinging in a tree? so yesterday bennett announced he was them as a brave leader, having got to know him. i think, you know, throughout history, we've seen that the rhetoric follows off once you build a personal relationship and drop stigmas and parra dinls that existed. that is the way to peace in any situation. i'm hopeful that given the fact that bennett has been put in this position and he's now sitting in a coalition with abbas, the two of them will be talking to each other. they'll be working together. they'll be getting to know each other. that will help him evolve as a person, a leader and give hope to the jews and palestinians living in this region that peace that has been there for so long

will come to fruition. >> okay. he said this to me when i interviewed him, george, in 2017. have a listen. >> i guess what you need to do is go back and change the bible. you need to change the narrative of the bible. it's all there. st. >> it's a jewish state. >> i assume those all -- >> the supreme court of the -- >> those were the words of a fear person, not the words of a democratic politician. the bible gave us all the land. change the bible if you want us to make peace. >> well, listen, there is certainly a foundation of beliefs that the jewish state is inherently belong to the jewish people based on historical and biblical precedent. but again, we really took that

to the extreme. let's say, you know, east of jordan river, syria, southern lebanon. you know, it all belongs to the state of israel too. i don't think that natally bennett is saying that either. again, i think rhetoric is easy when you're not in power. it's a little different when you have to govern. and do now have the weight of people's lives on your shoulders, the decision making power to promote peace or war. and i believe natali bennett will do everything he can to promote peace. >> just to be clear, he was the minister in government when he said that to me in 2017. look, i'm hoping you're right. that he is moving on these issues. he is changing. and time will tell. but natali bennett said on records many times he doesn't support a palestinian state and never will. p has he done a u-turn on that too, george? or will the biden administration being dealing with a government that doesn't even pretend to support a two state solution.

>> he and i, we haven't discussed that. i don't know that he's even gone to that point yet as to what he will say and do when he meets with president biden. again, my history has been having worked now not just in israel but around the world with many prime ministers and presidents around the world that it's easy to talk when you're not in a position of power. of but once you have that weight on your shoulders, there is an evolution. and you have to work -- >> you made that point. it's a very simple question. does he support a two state solution now or nothe? hasn't up until this point. we need to know that. st. >> he and i, we have not talked about it. i can't speak for him. those are things as prime minister he'll have to speak for himself. i can't answer that question. it is not something we discussed in the past six to ten months. >> fine. okay. last question to you then. whatever israeli government formed this week, gazians continue to leave under siege. west bankers will continue to

have to put up with illegal israeli settlements. it really makes no difference if the israeli leader is your new boss, bennett or your old boss benjamin netanyahu? >> i would take exception with some of the characterization. i think that if you have a government that is made up of such a broad ideology and this government will be made up. that there should be hope for both jews and palestinians that there can be a change in the status quo and however you characterize that status quo, it is really what we need to have. >> improving the status quo and improving people's lives and also won't tell us if if your palestinians can have a state in independence. >> listen, i worked for prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the i worked for prime minister sharon. you know, i think a two state solution is inevitable. that is my personal opinion. i'm not talking as an official position for bennett. i think that's an inevitability. i just think it's going to take

the right type of leadership on both sides to get there. again, i'm hopeful that a broad coalition may help lead to that. i think that, again, i would like to see every jew and every arab be able to look at their children and know they're going to grow up in peace. >> okay. >> let's see what happens, george. thank you so much for joining us on the show today. >> and thanks to all of you for watching tonight. we'll be right back here next sunday at can p.m. eastern. you can catch me monday through thursday 7:00 p.m. own the choice of nbc streaming channel. now it's time to turn it over as environmenter to joshua johnson. good evening, joshua. . >> right quick. am i mishearing this or is it a lay-up to the adviser to the next israeli prime minister to know if he supports a two state solution. that should have been a really easy question. >> you think the memo would have gone out the moment the election was done and dusted and liked like he might win. >> the wow.

okay. that was a fascinating interview. the we're going to talk a little more about israel in our next hour. you have a good weekend, my friend. thank you very much. and hello to you. it is good to be with you tonight. speaking of international kamala harris is about to go on her first international trip. it may be the wildest conspiracy theory we ever heard and a former trump official push for a formal investigation of it. we'll explain. plus, some folks are just learning about the tulsa race massacre. what else don't we know about america's history? and how will we learn it? from nbc news world headquarters in new york, i'm joshua johnson. welcome to "the week."