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meet with entrepreneurs as part of her first trip overseas following this morning's bilateral meeting with president obrador of mexico where the two discussed the relationship between mexico and the united states. nbc news anchor lester holt will join us momentarily to discuss his interview with the vice president. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe. i don't understand the point you're making. i'm not discounting the importance of the border. >> this comes as a new senate report says capitol police leaders knew that trump supporters were planning to breach the capitol complex and failed to act. this afternoon we're learning that the assistant chief of police at uscp, chad thomas, resigned from his post yesterday. the latest official to depart
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following the january 6 insurrection. but we begin this hour in mexico city where the vice president is on the final leg of her first major foreign trip, seeking to strengthen diplomatic relations with mexico and address migration at the southern u.s. border. joining me now is nbc news white house correspondent monica alba, live in monica, good to see you again. what are we hearing from the vice president on this two-day trip and does the administration consider this trip, as it stands today at least, successful? >> reporter: it may be a little too early to determine that, ayman. this is not a vice president who set out clear markers for what would make a successful trip. instead she said i'm going to meet with these leaders and she said she had no illusion about this being easy, this problem of stemming migration to the border. as we've seen in this record numbers, it's one that's quite intractable and even her aides admit will take years, likely
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beyond even her time in office, to truthful solve. they're clear eyed on that front. i think they would cast this as a very initial and incremental trip. we also have to remember here that kamala harris does not have much if any foreign policy experience, different than other vice presidents or certainly of course presidents in the past. that was not the focus of her years of career service. countries like guatemala and mexico, this is her first foray onto the world stage. there have been flash points with questions from our own colleague lester holt about why she hasn't visited the u.s. border. and that stern warning she delivered to migrants, telling them not to come, something that progressives have been pushing back on. we're already hearing from people on the ground that the vice president has committed to returning, because again, they view this use just the very first step in a very, very long road to trying to solve this
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issue and trying to really help chip away at all of the corruption, the poverty and the violence that drives people to leave their home countries and make the extremely treacherous journey up through mexico and into the united states, ayman. >> it's a complex issue both dealing with institutional and generational challenges. monica alba, thank you. vice president harris sat down with my colleague lester holt on the administration's priorities for dealing with immigration. joining me here on-set is nbc news' "nightly news" anchor lester holt. lester, good to see you back. >> good to see you. >> explain to us the big takeaways for you and this interview and what she had to say about not going to the border. >> clearly the administration is dealing with the long game, dealing with the situation in places like guatemala, to give people reasons to stay.
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but then there's the short game, every day in the headlines, what's happening on the border. her portfolio, frankly, has her dealing specifically with the diplomatic efforts, what's happening in the northern triangle. but back to that message monica talked about, this notion of don't come, i pressed her a bit about that, how that's being received in places where people are really under pressure to flee. >> what do you tell a guatemalan family who heard you say don't come but, you know, they're facing the end, there's poverty, there's disease, all these things happening at once. you tell them don't come? >> we don't want -- listen, i don't think that americans want people to be exposed to harm if they can avoid it. and what we are seeing is that people are fleeing. their paying coyotes, they're leaving the place they know they want to stay. i'm saying what can we do to
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support people and give them a sense of hope that help is on the way. for example, we have for the first time created an antitrafficking task force, in addition an anticorruption task force, where the united states department of justice, together with the treasury department and the state department, are going to be focusing on the issue of corruption in this region. we need to deal with and confront the corruption issue and we need to give people a sense of hope. >> and one of the other takeaways, ayman, there's not going to be an easy solution. she didn't offer some grand idea that if we do x, y, and z, things will be better tomorrow. >> to that point, lester, given the fact that previous administrations, members of congress for decades have been trying to deal with this issue, does the vice president give you a sense of a timeline as to how they measure progress and how they're going to deal with these constitutional challenges? >> no, and i asked specifically about that, what is victory or success look like and there wasn't a clear answer.
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as vice president, joe biden had a very similar assignment, to deal with what's happening in central america, cut off the roots that lead to what we see at the border. i asked her what's new about your approach. and there are certain things new. this idea of enlisting private companies now that will create economic opportunities, that's a bit broader. and remember, the situation has changed a lot over the years with the pandemic, of course, has had a tremendous impact on some of the progress that made and it's certainly slipped backwards. >> lester holt, thank you very much. catch more of lester's interview with vice president kamala harris tonight on "nbc nightly news." a new bipartisan senate report out today lays out the stunning intelligence and security failures that led up to the january 6th insurrection, saying that the intelligence
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officials did not warn the capitol police department. >> we wanted to get out some immediate recommendations to help with funding, to help with getting bills passed, and to change the policies in the police department and the like. but that whole side of it, about the rise of white supremacism and what needs to be done and doing this not just in the senate but the house and the senate together, that's about a 9/11 type commission. and i sincerely believe this report is not a substitute in any way for that. >> joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake, garrett, good to see you, my friend. the capitol police put out a statement today saying they had no specific credible intelligence on a large scale attack like we saw unfold on january 6th. what has been the response on capitol hill to this report's release and will anything actually get done about it? >> reporter: those qualifiers of specific and credible are doing
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a lot of work in the capitol police statement, because of course this report does say the capitol police did have information, they just did a poor job of disseminating it. the report itself has gotten bipartisan plaudits, it's a thorough set of findings about intelligence failures here on the capitol, with some recommendations how to improve those. there is a split between mostly democrats and republicans who say this report is a good start but as senator klobuchar is saying there, it would need to go much further to get all the answers. i asked chuck schumer about this at his press conference a few minutes ago and here is what he told me. they put out their january 6th report. i'm wondering how what's in that report and what's not in that report will affect how you push for a commission going forward. >> we do believe there ought to be a commission going forward. they almost assiduously avoided
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the two words vital to finding out what happened on january 6th, donald trump. the republicans reportedly didn't want any mention of him at all. and to find out, i think we should find out if other members of congress participated in this as well. >> reporter: ayman, the only significant mention of the former president in this report is that the entire speech he gave on the ellipse that day is included as an appendix to this report, suggesting that the authors did find some connection to it but didn't explore any further. i think we'll hear a lot from democrats in the coming weeks about how where this report leaves off, a january 6th commission should pick up. >> all right, garrett haake, live for us on capitol hill, garrett, thank you. joining me now is colorado democratic congressman jason crow, a member of the intelligence and armed services committees and a former army ranger. congressman, good to see you again. what do you think needs to happen now that we have this report in the outlining of
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failures of intelligence in the capitol police? >> thanks for having me on, ayman. we've been having the same problems, the problem with having this piecemeal approach, one investigation here, one committee oversight report here, is you get glimpses of what's happening but you don't get the full picture, right? it's the lack of the full picture that's preventing us from deciding what needs to be done to move forward and prevent further damage and to make sure this never happens again. because i'm leading a government accountability office investigation, i've requested it, in the house, and i'm conducting oversight of the investigation. that will give us more information but not everything. what we need to know is what donald trump was doing, who he was talking to, what happened in that conversation with kevin mccarthy, answers to questions like that that we can only get through a commission. we have to continue to press republicans to join us in doing the right thing. >> i want to remind our viewers,
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we were showing those incredible still pictures of you in the chamber while that insurrection was happening, i know you talked about the mindset you were in, drawing on your experience in the military, in that moment. let me play for you senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and what he had to say about this. watch this. >> today's report is one of the many reasons i'm confident in the ability of existing investigations to uncover all actionable facts about the events of january 6th. >> so do you think existing investigations are sufficient to get to the bottom of the root causes of january 6th in a report that doesn't even mention donald trump's name or, as senator schumer said, other members of congress? or is the gop underestimating the need for a 9/11 style commission? >> absolutely not, that's the point i just made. you can't piecemeal this with investigations that are looking at things around the margin. there's one commonality to all of this and that is donald trump. this would not have happened had
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it not been for donald trump. and his enablers, those who supported him, those who supported the rioters, the insurrectionists. we have to take a look at this holist holistically. the big lie is actually growing, it's deepening in america. until we actually look at the root causes of this, the growing conspiracy theories, the misinformation, the disinformation, the role of donald trump and his enablers, we are not going to stop this. this is not over. >> should the democrats be prepared to go it alone on this if they have to? >> i'm not going to let the republicans off the hook, that's for darn sure. their responsibility here, they should be held responsible for governing as well. they have an obligation to join us. they will always have an obligation to join us. that obligation will never end. but i will say that house democrats will be prepared to do what's necessary to protect the country, to do right by our law
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enforcement officers, those who made great sacrifices on january 6th, to secure our nation to address this ongoing problem. we will always step up and do what's necessary to resolve the issue. the republicans always have an obligation to join us and do the right thing. >> and finally, congressman, if i can, i know that a big part of this report also focused on the preparation, uscp, one of them, told investigators, quote, we were ill prepared, we were not informed with intelligence. we were betrayed. we were abandoned by all the deputy chiefs and above that day. we still have not been told where exactly the chiefs were that day and what their role was on the 6th. your thoughts on that? do you think accountability has been applied to the uscp's leadership in this so far? >> the answer is no. you can't have accountability without truth, without actually uncovering the facts. and the problem with some of these investigations including the senate one that was just
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released is numerous officials refused to comply. so one deputy chief didn't actually interview with the panel. we didn't get information from the department of justice yet. so there needs to be one entity, a commission or a committee, with subpoena power that can compel that testimony, compel the production of documents, to get information. we owe it to those officers who very courageously held the line. listen, i may not be here today if it had not been for those officers holding back that mob and that riot in the way that they did. i have an obligation to them to seek the truth and to hold folks accountable that put them in that position. >> congressman jason crow from colorado, thank you so much for your time, sir, i greatly appreciate it. >> thanks, ayman. the biden justice department is trying to defend donald trump from a lawsuit.
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which is part of the conversation we had yesterday. there is the work that we are doing around mutual aid around reinforcement of security issues, in particular as it relates to our concern about human trafficking and things of that nature. but look, here is the bottom line. we have -- and it is a legitimate, correct conversation and concern, as to address what is happening at our american southern border, no question about that. we cannot have that question and have that conversation without also giving equal weight and attention to what is causing that to occur. and so the work that we are doing by being in guatemala yesterday and mexico today is to look at what is happening at the border and what is causing that to happen. that is about, one, having
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direct conversations with heads of state, the president of guatemala and the president president of mexico, which i have had now in the last 24 hours, to have a one-on-one conversation, to eyeball each other and say, look, let's speak honestly, let's speak candidly about the interconnection, the interdependency, and also the responsibility we have to address these issues. but you can't say you care about the border without caring about the root causes, without carrying about the acute causes when include the fact that you're looking at populations particularly from central america who are plagued by hunger and the devastations caused by the hurricanes and of course the pandemic. so let's approach this in a way that acknowledges there are many factors. and as with any intractable issue, we cannot be simplistic and assume that there is only one element or way of approaching the overall problem. if this were easy, it would have been handled a long time ago.
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there is no question that it is complex, in fact, and that we have to navigate the complexities of it with a goal of solving it. it would be very easy to say we'll travel to one place and therefore it's solved. i don't think anybody thinks that that would be the solution. thank you, everyone. >> all right. so you were just listening to vice president kamala harris. she may be taking one more question. let's take a quick listen. >> listen, i've been to the border before. i will go again. but when i'm in guatemala dealing with root causes, i think we should have a conversation about what's going on in guatemala. >> so that was the vice president kamala harris in mexico city. that last part we dipped back into was her fielding a question about some of the criticism that's been directed toward her for not going to the southern
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border yet. she did try to highlight in those comments the need to understand the acute causes what have is driving the migration to the u.s. southern border. she explained why she went down to guatemala, to see firsthand those conditions, to hear from the presidents of guatemala and mexico, to have, as she said, candid and honest conversations about relations between the countries to try to understand this. we'll continue to follow her trip to mexico city and we'll bring you more throughout the hour as it develops. democratic senator joe manchin from west virginia met with top civil rights leaders after cementing his opposition to the for the people act, the massive elections bill proposed by his own party. here is some of what he had to say. >> did they change your mind? >> what we had was a great -- we had a respectful, very informative, a very good conversation we had and the starting of a good relationship, it really was. >> the president and naacp echoed the same sentiment in a
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statement which reads in part, our meeting today with senator manchin was productive and insightful. we focused on finding common ground and building a relationship. we're committed to building a relationship with senator manchin and all lawmakers. senator manchin claims a narrower voting rights bill has bipartisan report. but just in the last hour, the top republican in the senate rejected the proposal, leaving slim odds either bill has a fighting chance in the chamber. watch. >> there's no threat to the voting rights law. it's against the law to discriminate in voting on the basis of race already. and so i think it's unnecessary. >> joining me now with more on these stories, sal, it's good to see you again. senator manchin does not appear to be budging. now you have speaker nancy
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pelosi stepping in with a new statement, saying the bill must be passed but it will not be ready until the fall and it is not a substitute for h.r. 1. what do the prospects of either bill look like right now? >> reporter: let's take those one at a time, ayman. on s. 1, that bill does not have a pulse in the senate after joe manchin resolutely came out against him. democrats have 49 out of 50 members on board. they don't have a path to a 50th vote without manchin given that republicans are unanimously opposed to it. no matter what happens to the senate rules, for the next year and a half, the duration of this congress, that bill does not have a viable path in the senate. the joe lewis voting rights advancement act, that appears to have one republican vote, that of senator lisa murkowski. they need nine more to defeat a likely filibuster and they don't have a likely path to those
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nine. susan collins, a fellow moderate senator to lisa murkowski, has not said where she stands on it. many republican senators said they're either skeptical or opposed. the trend here has been that pieces of legislation that lack mitch mcconnell's support do not have a path to 60. it leaves democrats in a precarious position. one thing is clear, they're not going to stop trying to get something done on voting rights. >> it is only amplifying those calling for the need to do with the filibuster. sahil kapur, thank you as always. in a move that might come as a surprise to some, the biden justice department is looking to defend former president donald trump in a lawsuit brought by e. jean carroll who accused trump of sexually assaulting her in the 1990s. trump denied the allegations saying it never happened and, quote, she is not my type. carroll filed a defamation suit
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in response shortly thereafter. in september trump's justice department sought to represent the former president against those claims and was denied by a federal judge. but just last night the biden's doj adopted the legal position that the former president's comments to the press on a matter of public concern were part of his job. carroll slammed the decision in a statement, saying, quote, as women across the country are standing up and holding men accountable for assault, the doj is trying to stop me from having that right. paul butler is an msnbc legal analyst, paul, good to see you again on the program. during the presidential campaign joe biden actually slammed donald trump for the very same position that they are taking now, for treating the doj as his own personal law firm, so to speak. but here is merrick garland ready to defend the 45th president. explain to us what is going on here. >> so in this case with jean
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carroll, barr tried to remove trump from the case. and a federal judge told barr no, you can't do that. barr claimed this was part of president trump's official responsibilities as president. but the federal judge made the point that this is litigation about a sexual assault allegation decades before trump became president. so it doesn't have anything to do with his presidential duties. and now, incredibly, the biden administration is appealing that decision. so ayman, doj is arguing that when trump made those misogynist comments, that was within the scope of his duties as president. >> and interestingly, paul, and just before this news broke, you wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" and part of it reads, quote, attorney general merrick garland should uphold the values of the justice department by exposing the misdeeds of the previous administration and ensuring
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accountability. talk about what's at stake for the integrity of the justice department now that it is seen as representing donald trump to preserve its own institutional interests. >> i understand that the biden justice department is protecting the office of president. but there is a fine line between that and shielding corruption. and i think attorney general garland is walking on the wrong side of that line. lawyers don't talk and sound like judges. we make legal arguments with long briefs. it's very possible for the biden justice department to make nuanced arguments to judges that protect the responsibility and the responsible use of executive power but at the same time don't shield corruption including the abuse of power in the trump administration. >> paul butler, thank you so much as always for your insights, i greatly appreciate it. up next, what the ceo of the colonial pipeline company told congress today about how hackers
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and others. in a statement to nbc news, the company involved said we have identified a service configuration and disabled it. colonial's ceo testified on capitol hill today. he addressed his decision to ultimately pay the hackers more than $4 million. >> it was the hardest decision i've made in my 39 years in the energy industry. and i know how critical our pipeline is to the country and i put the interests of the country first. >> on monday, the department of justice announced that it had recovered the majority of the ransom colonial paid to darkside hackers, a cyber criminal group believed to be operating inside of russia.
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joining us is nbc security correspondent ken dilanian. >> good evening, ayman. darkside used an unused vpn account that had a single password, not the two-factor authentication that we need to access our nbc accounts from home. he said it was a complicated password, not a "colonial 123" type password. but he said the company did not have a ransom plan despite spending an average of $40 million a year on cybersecurity. he says his company now complies with the latest cybersecurity standards ordered last month by the transportation department. he recounted how colonial shut down its pipeline 15 minutes after it learned it had been breached because the company didn't know whether it was only the corporate i.t. systems or whether it was the pipeline operating systems that had already been compromised. then he described, u.s. heard there, making the decision to pay the ransom the next day,
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which he said was the hardest decision he ever had to make although he thought it was in the best interests of the american people. we should note it was a decision he made without a complete understanding of how deeply the ransomware had penetrated his company's systems. the hacking group darkside then supplied a decryption code which he said worked to a degree but not perfectly. then he said he also contacted the fbi within hours of the ransomware attack and was directed to the san francisco office which had already been investigating darkside. those are the people, ayman, who traced the ransomware and seized part of the -- the ransom, i'm sorry, and seized the money. >> it's incredible to imagine that a major infrastructure pipeline did not have two-factor authentication when our instagram accounts and most social media accounts now have two-factor authentication. ken, thank you. police in canada say a man accused of mowing down a family
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on sunday targeted them because they were muslim. four of the family are killed and one seriously injured. the driver is charged with four counts of murder and one count of attempted murder. the canadian prime minister, justin trudeau, calls it a cowardly act of violence. >> this killing is no accident. this was a terrorist attack motivated by hatred in the heart of one of our communities. >> the victims range in age from 15 to 74. a 9-year-old boy is still recovering in the hospital. still ahead, an important decision in israel that could lead to the eviction of some palestinians living in east jerusalem. we'll talk to a palestinian activist who was arrested this weekend after being forcibly removed from his home weeks ago. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." low cash mode on virtual wallet from pnc bank.
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jerusalem might have just become more likely. the israeli attorney general told the supreme court he will not intervene in the long-awaited decision. the ruling was delayed last month so the attorney general could choose whether to get involved as tensions escalated into an aerial exchange of fire and pressure from countries like the united states. joining me is nbc news correspondent kelly cobiella. what does this latest move from the attorney general and the israeli supreme court mean for palestinians living in east jerusalem and other neighborhoods in the area? >> reporter: well, ayman, the attorney general basically said when he announced he wasn't going to intervene that the cases were too weak, that the palestinian families' cases were too weak and in his arguments wouldn't make an difference in a potential eviction to come. a lower court has already ruled in the settlers' favor.
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so it does bring the likelihood of those evictions even closer to happening. a date for the supreme court hearing has not yet been set but it could come any day now. it's not just about those families. you also have some 700 palestinians who are threatened with forced eviction in the neighboring area that's about 2 1/2 miles away. and all of this centers around this right to return law, essentially allowing jewish israelis to claim property lost during the 1948 war for independence but does not allow palestinians that same right. on top of that, ayman, you have the issue of demolitions. this is something that happens to palestinian families on a regular basis. they apply for building permits continuously, they are denied continuously. they build anyway, and then are
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told they have to demolish or are threatened with those homes being demolished by the city. some 5,000 homes in east jerusalem are now at risk of being demolished. these are all really, really big problems that are causing a lot of anger, frustration, and tension in these neighborhoods, ayman. and it's something that the incoming government, if this coalition government is in fact confirmed on sunday, it's something this government will have to address, ayman. >> all right, kelly cobiella, live from tel aviv, thank you. israeli police arrested two well-known palestinian activists whose family's home is at stake in the courts, accusing them of participating in riots. but their father says israel is targeting them for telling the story of what is happening to the outside world.
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one of the family, who was forcibly evicted from his east jerusalem home, joins me now. thank you very much for your time. before we get to the court decision and what it means, tell us how you and your sister doing and walk us through what happened this weekend when you were both detained. >> thank you, ayman, it's good to be back. me and my sister were arrested. we're okay now. what happened to us is not an anomaly, it's been happening to thousands of palestinians under israel's law and order campaign in which there is a huge crackdown, a huge, terrifying crackdown on dissent, on people who protest colonial violence. we see this as a tactic to silence us from speaking out. 20 palestinians now lie in prisons under administrative detention in jerusalem. three minors were arrested from their homes this morning under baseless charges. this crackdown is imminent and
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continuous. >> how do you feel about the upcoming court decision, what do you think will happen now that the attorney general says that he does not want to intervene in this and that the government's position is officially -- they see it as a real estate dispute? >> well, it's not a real estate dispute. the global arena is waking up to that. listen, i think we have known since the early years of this case, since the '70s, that we can't expect justice from settler justice. we know these courts were built by and for settlers and they have continuously violated international law in favor of settlements so we don't expect much from these courts. what we expect, however, is from people all over the world to not let our expulsion, our ethnic cleansing, to happen in silence. we're expecting people to protest everywhere and speak up against this state-sanctioned
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ethnic cleansing. >> the new government will be voted on as early as sunday. will a new coalition in power mean anything for your family and the other families in east jerusalem? >> in my opinion i think they're all terrorists. i'm being very honest. if you're continuously committing war crimes, violating international law, be it by shelling civilians or by boasting about it at your podium, then you're a terrorist. in this country there's no right and left across the political spectrum, the political objective has been clear, to expel the palestinian population. that systemic manifestation of the political objective has been explicit and clear also. since 1948 we have had our lands stolen, we have had our people massacred legally and illegally. >> i know that last time you and i spoke, you said the united states is not in a place to make
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judgments about the conversation. shortly after our conversation, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken said that the united states will not support any action that puts a two-state solution at risk in the region. does a message like this from the u.s. make any difference, do you think there's any pressure that the u.s. government could apply here to prevent this from happening? >> well, let me begin by expressing my concerns over such remarks. i think it's quite laughable to make a linguistic statement that you're against something while continuously funneling money into it. so we need the american administration to take action against our expulsions, against our ethnic cleansing. it's not enough for the united states to say that they don't support settlements while giving israel $3.8 billion a year in military aid which they use to expel us and throw us out of our homes. when i'm teaching my students and a sound grenade goes through
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my window, it is american made. and the united states needs to answer to that. >> all right, thank you, we'll continue to follow this story as it develops. >> thank you. thank you so much. still ahead, one of the accused capitol hill rioters is trying to get out of jail, claiming he's a victim. the very latest in the case, coming up. but first, today a panel of united appeals judges upheld a conviction and life sentence of a bosnian serb military leader accused of genocide. he was convicted of war crimes for leading forces during bosnia's war in the 1990s. a judge said he was responsible for the crimes despite them being carried out by subordinates. you're watching "ayman mohyeldin reports." reports. it's true jen. really?! this prebiotic oat formula moisturizes to help prevent dry skin. impressive! aveeno® healthy. it's our nature.
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the better. ♪♪ because bringing out the best of them, takes the very best of us. ♪♪ as the senate released its scathing report detailing massive security failures, miscommunications, and ignored intelligence before the riot at the capitol on january 6th, one of the rioters in court documents claimed he was not part of any mob and claimed he was only at the front of the crowd so his qanon shirt would get worldwide recognition. scott, good to see you.
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tell us more about jensen's hearing here. >> reporter: hey, ayman, good afternoon. doug jensen pleaded not guilty. his attorneys acknowledged plea agreement talks had gone off the rails and they're trying to get them back on the rails. what's most interesting, ayman, is what happened hours earlier when he filed a new motion seeking his release from jail until trial. in that motion, it was quite something. there were some unorthodox arguments in there, a fleeting reference to george orwell's "1984" and he commented how unexpected it was to have a billionaire reality tv host to be president. he also seems to be turning on trump in his argument, saying he was there that day, he thought at the direction of donald trump, and now feels he was deceived by a pack of lies. he also says he's been languishing in jail for months now and suffering because of it, so it's noteworthy, ayman, that plea talks aren't getting anywhere for a man languishing in jail, he would likely want to
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see the end of the road in this prosecution. >> let's talk about mr. jacob chansley, better known online as the qanon shaman. he's being moved from jail to federal prison this week. any idea why? >> reporter: yeah, they're moving him from the jail inial ex from alexandria, virginia, to colorado for a competency exam. that's really important, because he's the second person in as many daze whose case has been sidelined or postponed for a competency exam. there's just a tonnage of court filings in each of these 490 cases. it's a choke poet in the d.c. federal court. just an hour ago, a an accused oath keepers got permission from the court to go to the bank on saturday. this is going to be months and years, not weeks or days. scott, greatly appreciate it.
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thank you. tomorrow president biden will depart for his first international trip where heads -- he will immediate with key counterparts. he'll attend a three-day g-7 summit and meet with queen elizabeth, and separately with turkish president erdogan. next on his agenda, the summit with eu leaders. he'll wrap up with a meeting in geneva with vladimir putin on june 16th. joining me is author of the book "the world, a brief introduction." give us the big objectives of the biden administration when you look at the different pockets of meetings he has scheduled. >> what's odd is the two biggest objectives seem inconsistent with this trip. one is the foreign policy ought
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not take precedence over domestic policy. within the realm of foreign policy, the principal focus is china. what you're seeing is in some ways allies are center the of american foreign policy. it's not a unilateral administration, so whether we're dealing with russia or klein, the president wants to see it from a foundation of what historically has been or strongest and closest allies, those in europe. >> speaking of our closest allies, when you look back a bit, just three months from mow, the 20th anniversary of the september 11th attacks. we all recall after that nato invoked, which says any attack on one member is an attack of all. do you think that nato needs to adapt to today's changes? >> short answer is yes. it seems to think about cyber.
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nato, after the end of the cold war, began to talk about out of area, so it needs to think about global challenges, whether it's iran, or obviously china. we also need to adjust to changes in the u.s./european relationship. that's a problem for nato. under the trump administration, the u.s. introduced a significant degree of unpredictablity. with article 5, a lot of europeans were asking whether the u.s. is willing to abide about it, but a lot of europeans are wondering, is this simply a four-year return to what we used to know between trump and trumpism. i think it's to reestablish american reliability. >> i know you mentioned that this administration wants to focus on domestic policy, but in some cases, you can't just ignore it, given the fact that russian hackers like dark matter
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and others are attacking the united states. the president is wrapping up his trip with a meeting with vladimir putin. do you think it's possible to make tangible inroads for u.s./russia relations in this meeting? >> is it possible? sure. is it likely? sorry to say, no. this is not a summit of the old u.s./soviet days, where all sources of agreements that have been drafted, ready to be signed. this is more of a agree to disagree conversation, with they'll probably each introduce mainly their concerns about the other's behavior. the president will talk about the incarceration are mr. navalny, and he'll talk about what's happening in ukraine and so forth. maybe, just maybe, once we get through that, including the cyber issues, there's a possibility there might be areas where they might agree on the
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future of nuclear arms control, maybe saying on iran or afghanistan, but we can't mesh this by agreements. in some ways. the fact theep openly disagree, the best thing about that is maybe each will leave with a better idea of the other. the chance of miscalculation down the road seems to be, therefore, reduced. >> i said dark side a moment ago, not dark matter, and i apologize for that. this administration by the attorney general to not get involved means like more likely that the evictions will in fact go forward once the supreme court makes its decision. what should the administration do here? >> look, there's not a lot we can do. what is most interesting to me, if that were to happen, there will again be protests, and this new coalition, the unwieldy eight-party coalition that could well by then be the israeli government, the question is, could it survive the kinds of
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events, just what you're discussing, where there's violence. hamas might do something, one of the parties in the coalition is the islamic arab party. will they be able to hold together? one thing they agree on is the opposition to bibi netanyahu, but they don't agree on a way forward. this new government could well be tested. >> richard haas, always a pleasure, my friend. >> thank you. that wraps it up for me. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts after this quick break. ing to your do.
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i thought it was thursday. sorry. -it is. -i thought -- i thought it was last thursday. hi there, everyone. the greatest fault line in american political life. on one side, those who see it clearly as an unprecedented assault on our democracy. who refuse to support a bipartisan commission to investigate. today the bombshell new revelations about the failure to ward the capitol police today.
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