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after backlash of four years of donald trump. and he will have a summit with vladimir putin. >> making clear to putin and china europe and the united states are tight and the g7 is going to move. >> collapse between the president and republican shelly moore capito gives way to two bills in the senate. two senators trying to pick up the baton on a potential deal while democratic leaders leave the option of going it alone on the table. and there are signs of hope for the police reform bill as tim scott and cory booker and karen bass are nearing an agreement on the issue of qualified immunity for officers. joining me now is shannon
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heavypeace. take us through what we heard from the president this morning and the meeting with g7 allies and that important meeting in geneva. >> there are a lot of things he wants to change, trying to counter the pressure from china and russia globally. the president said to tackle any of those they believe they have to get a united front from america's oldest allies. that's why we are seeing the president go in and start off this trip with a meeting with uk prime minister and the g7 summit to repair alliances battered by
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trump's nationalistic america first attitude. it is no mistake that the administration has scheduled all of these meetings with the allies for almost a week before going into this meeting you mentioned with russian president vladimir putin. they hope to go in with a show of strength, with the wind at their back as one senior administration official put it, to show there is a united front. they are not anticipating any big deliver bls out of this meeting. they are looking for a deescalation in tensions and stabilization with russia at best is what officials are saying coming into this meeting. >> earlier this week they came
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out saying we are not looking for any of those deliverables. the cicadas have been taking over the east coast and that has been a big story, but it caused plenty of problems over the past 24 hours. the press plane that was grounded by these bugs has landed now in england. it is carrying the host of this show andrea mitchell. she is traveling with the president. what has the reaction been with all of those stranded on the plane together. >> the white house is not immune to cicada. president biden had one swarming him as he tried to board air force one. this was a very large group of white house reporters traveling on this charter flight. they do these charters so
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everyone can travel together and make things logistically easier. they were stranded for hours at dulles airport, eating pizza, keeping the bar open late, some people tried to get some sleep before getting on the plate. i am not an aerospace engineer, so i am not sure how cicadas can down a plane, but a whole new plane had to be brought in. but they got started on a long exhausting trip. one i am glad i am not on. >> it was in the generator as i understand. i'm glad they kept the bar open late. shannon, we appreciate you starting us off. let's turn to capitol hill
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where bipartisanship may not be dead, but may be on the skids. thank you all for being here today. let's listen to how chuck schumer explained this balancing act. >> it may well be that part of the bill that will be passed will be bipartisan and part will be through reconciliation, but we are not going to sacrifice the bigness and boldness in this bill. we will pursue two paths and at some point they will join. >> let's reality check this. where do you think we stand? >> that is the best possible scenario if there is any bipartisan route possible. what he's talking about is doing the core infrastructure
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component, traditional infrastructure in a bipartisan way and democrats will do the rest of the priorities that republicans don't think is infrastructure, like child care and elder care, they will pursue that on a different route. a group of five republicans meet is over. now ten republicans and ten democrats are meeting. they met last night and ordered pizza and trying to hash out a plan, but they haven't even come to an agreement on a top line number, how much money they should spend. that is essentially the easiest part beyond how you pay for it and what is actually in for the proposal.
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one of the members in that group is senator joe manchin who insisted that bipartisan must be explored and must be happening until it can no longer happen. our colleague caught up with senator manchin earlier today and pressed him again. listen to what he said. >> i will ask you the same question i asked last thursday. if this doesn't work, would you be willing to go it alone with a democrat option? >> i will never do that. >> we will be watching another bipartisan group until it flounders. perhaps it won't. >> you are right to underscore in many ways this is about joe manchin feeling he has the opportunities he needs before moving to the next phase. how much pressure is on chuck
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schumer to deliver for the president especially after so much attention has been paid to it? >> i think there is pressure on senator schumer but also the full gamut, quite frankly, for democratic leadership. somebody said this to me in washington the other day. it isn't about getting caught trying. its bea trying. what joe manchin clearly wants is a real effort. will probably go it alone when he realizes that there aren't ten republicans that can move this forward. he represents a state that joe biden got 30% of the vote in and lost by 40% to donald trump. you see this and hear this probably too often. i am having 2009 and 2010 flashbacks. joe biden just needs to go more
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quickly. he just needs to cut this off and make it happen. i just think in a 50/50 senate it is not quite that easy. reconciliation without joe manchin, without any one of the democratic senators doesn't happen. the process has to take its course. the tea will have to steep a little bit before it can get served. >> a strong analogy. david jolly, he would keep seeing the same group of republicans. i am not going to count to ten here. these are the ones who keep working with or in some cases voting with democrats. even if all five of these folks get on board, is there any chance they can find five more to actually get something done? >> no, casey to your point, the numbers aren't there.
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to robert's point, manchin represents a republican state, a state that went for trump by 40 points. i think ultimately there are certain things that congress and the administration have to do to keep the lights on. transportation infrastructure is one of those that has to pass every four, five, six years. schumer is saying we will pass some of this through a bipartisan effort because they have to anyway. maybe you will have capito and others leading that effort, but it is not a legislative achievement for joe biden, at least that package. the achievement comes by somehow getting to 51 votes. there is no bipartisanship working with republicans in congress. it's not going to happen.
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there is no incentive for republicans to hand joe biden and democrats a congressional win going into voting of 2022. >> this bipartisan police reform package, what is the latest there and do you think it has a shot at getting through? >> this is the one thing i think that has a chance of real bipartisanship. i have been most optimistic about this the whole time. my sources are telling me that they mostly settled on the biggest sticking point which is this idea of qualified immunity. this is opening up a path to a larger deal on the entire legislation. my sources are willing telling me we could see draft legislation in the next week or two. so despite everything breaking down in congress, police reform
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seems to have the most heft and the biggest chance of actually happening. my sources also warn me that things can fall apart at any moment. nothing is done until everything is done, but at this moment it's looking good. >> never cover congress without that disclaimer. leigh ann caldwell, robert, david, thanks for being here. making progress on police reform. as they work closer to reality, we will talk to the naacp derek johnson. plus what it takes to help families reunite after being separated at the border under trump's hardline policy. s hardl. because we're the engineers who built the most reliable network in america. thousands of smarter towers, with the 5g coverage you need. broader spectrum for faster 5g speeds.
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welcome back. with senator joe manchin shutting down any hope of sweeping rights. democrats held a rally at the supreme court. >> what they are trying to do in georgia and all across this country is to squeeze the voices of the people out of their democracy such that they can have minority rule and we will not allow that happen. we have to provide minimum standards for election. that's the job of congress. if congress won't defend people's voices, we have failed to do our job in the most basic way. >> joining me is derek johnson. thank you so much for being with us today. there was no big break through
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we understand in your meeting with senator manchin yesterday. did you get an idea what he opposes in the more sweeping "for the people act." >> i think the biggest indication was that he opposes the bipartisan approach to filibuster. we can't do that. mitch mcconnell said he's opposed to the act. we are not on a fair playing field. this is a new senate more concerned with blocking progress than advancing opportunity. >> so to your point, right now you have this so-called audit in arizona. there are 22 new voter restriction laws passed in 14
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states. manchin is the 50th vote so there is only so much that can be done if he chooses to vote to avoid the filibuster. but do you think the president and leaders are being aggressive enough as they try to fight back on this front? >> i can't say colleagues posture is at the moment. that's internal. i do know getting the voting must be a priority of the party and leadership. if not we violate the constitutional rights of many people, particularly african-americans. what states have done over the last two months in putting in measures to suppress the vote is unconscionable. they must overcome the harm that has been done as we prepare to put a chilling effect on future
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harm. >> on a different topic, nbc news is reporting that the group of bipartisan lawmakers are making progress. they want to have draft legislation in two weeks. we hear they are close to a deal on qualified i am community for officers, particularly police departments. tim scott says there are a still a couple areas of disagreement. but how confident are you we will see some type of reform bill. i know these negotiators are checking in with groups like yours. are you comfortable with where they are on qualified immunity? >> the mere fact there is a table sitting around figuring out a solution that would possibly be a win-win is encouraging.
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think about where we are. the infrastructure conversation just broke down and that was with the president and administration. we have no movement around voting, but at least there is a group sitting down seeking to improve upon the conditions of many communities across the country. i am encouraged with what would the details look like? it is in the fine print whether or not it is a good package. i have confidence in congress people booker and bass. >> ncaa athletes say they are playing at a pro level and should be paid that way. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. tchell reports" only on msnbc ♪ hallelujah ♪ ♪ hallelujah ♪
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it is said that over 2900 families have not been reunited and a numb have not been located at all. >> in san antonio, more than a year after beginning to track down separated families, a search that had been largely virtual is now physical. >> this is going to take you across country? >> pretty much. >> these people all work for agencies, a nonprofit paid for by the u.s. to find families after a judge ordered the government offer mental health services because of what he calls separation. >> what are you doing? >> looking for families. >> social workers by trade, did you ever think you would be investigators in family practice? >> never.
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>> we set off for the first stop of almost 200. what are you planning? >> this is a copy of our flier. >> were you separated from your kids when you came to the united states? >> right. >> before we made it, a detour. >> we will put this up here. >> it is almost amazing to think about that this flyer right here at this restaurant on this random street, by just calling the phone numbers on there, could be the way they find one, if not more, of the separated families. >> seneca has already made contact with over 1,000 families and set up services for 250. we showed up at the last house known by the government.
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>> they got out and we stayed behind to not startle the family and protect their identity. after a few tense moments of waiting -- how did it go? >> success. >> no way! >> yea! >> what did you find? >> mom was home. she's interested in services for the family. >> her number, the dad's number. i am so excited. my heart is pounding. i am so happy to see her in person. we are here to help them. >> a lucky first try. 199 or so to go. they carried on stop after stop after stop. by evening we made it to the outskirts of austin and on the second day the team split up to cover more ground. >> what is it necessitates this?
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>> children separated from family. services have been helping them. >> in new orleans we met up again. by now chandra was with two other colleagues. he would headed towards pontchartrain. and we made our way to a father and son who were separated in 2018 and were already receiving therapy. they invited us in as long as we didn't show their faces. >> how did you learn about seneca? >> they called me on the phone and asked i wanted help. the separation was heart.
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-- hard. because of god we were able to be together. >> he told me not to think about the bad things, just the good things. >> a long healing process only now just beginning. >> joining me now is jacob. he is the author of the book "separated." jacob, i am so struck by this after you and i were on the air here at msnbc when you were first learning about how these families were being separated and the kids in cages and here you are now continuing to follow the story. what an undertaking. how many families did this group contact and how did they figure out how to make these connections once they do get in touch with those families as you showed us. >> that night it was father's day 2018 when you and i were on
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the air together starting out at the epicenter of the separation policy. it is amazing there are still hundreds of families not yet located after deliberately separated by the trump administration. while 2500 haven't been found, this group was looking to find around 200, knocked on 200 or so doors. it is amazing for me to be able to tell you that they made contact with 33 families over the course of this road trip. i think they are in the dallas area today. and because of the success they will do an east coast swing this summer, too. >> remarkable. jacob, i know you will keep us posted on this incredibly important story. thanks for that, my friend. let's switch topics. in the months ahead the supreme
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court will decide whether athletes can receive benefits from their school. but now congress is hearing another issue. do players have the right to capitalize on their own name, image and likeness. five states have said yes and are enacting laws to go into effect july 1. joining me now is garrett haake. senator booker was in the always interesting position of testifying before his colleagues on this committee. what did we learn? >> the witness list today didn't include a current athlete, but included cory booker who played
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college football for stanford. listen to what he said. >> it is a de facto for profit industry exploiting men and women taking advantage of their genius and artistry. what is going on is quiet injustice. if we delay, justice delayed is justice denied. >> there are a lot of issues tangled up in this, like medical care. there is also issues of fairness in college sports. lock at the states that have passed these laws allowing for players to get paid for name image and likeness. a lot of states with power football teams in them. so there is a question about putting a national standard in place to keep fairness across college sports. you heard from a number of
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lawmakers perhaps it needs to be the federal government acting now to set a national standard that is high enough to protect athletes, but broad enough across the country that it's fair for athletes competing in any of the 50 states. >> some of my big ten teams already have to try to compete with an sec that might as well be a totally different league. garrett, thank you for being with us today. questions and criticism, much more about the vice president's trip to the northern triangle and mexico after the break. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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foreign trips to central america. criticism remains why she hasn't traveled to the border to witness the crisis herself. also, her warning not to come to the u.s. lester holt spoke to her. >> what do you tell a guatemalan family not to come. they are facing disease and poverty all at once. you are telling them don't come? >> we don't want -- i don't think americans want people to be exposed to harm if they can avoid it. what we are seeing is that people are fleeing with coyotes. they are taken from the place they want to stay. i am saying what can we do to support people with hope that help is on the way.
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>> senator tom parker, chairman of the environment and public works committee. thanks for being here. vice president harris has come under fire for those comments, some from alexandria ocasio cortez. >> there does seem to be a democratic divide. where do you stand? >> there ought to be capability for people with families, for young people to file for asylum in their own country, not to have to travel 1,000 miles or so, be the victim of all kinds of bad things. they should be able to file for asylum at home. that is what joe biden would like to do, that's what i would like to do and i believe what the vice president would like to do.
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that makes more sense. i was in a delegation to the border a month or two ago. middle of march. 6,000 young people were being held by border patrol in not very good conditions. they were held for an average of five days. that number is down to 500 people. they are turned over to be connected with sponsors, down from five days to 24 hours. the issue is not what is going on at the border, but what is going on in the three countries to risk life and limb to come here. violence, corruption, lack of economic opportunity and hope. all we do is welcome people to the boarders and help place them. if we do that well and humanely, 10 years from now people will still be coming.
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like home depot says, you can do it and we can help. we need to do that. >> i was amused by the use of the slogan, not people at all. >> it's a pretty good one, casey. you can do it. he would can help. it's not all on us. >> one of my colleagues traveled to a camp near the border. you had said earlier that these people should be able to apply in their home countries. i absolutely take your point, but some of them are in such tragic situations that they don't feel they can go back. what one woman told my colleague on"nbc nightly news" last night. >> in mexico, this tent camp is feet from the u.s. border, but worlds away.
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this morning this woman and her two children were sent back after being smuggled across the rio grand. they paid smugglers $4,000. she says her brother was killed. what should people do? >> if they made it to the border, they have the opportunity to file for asylum. in many cases these folks have a valid asylum claim. they need to file that and then they will go through an immigration process. that process can take a long time. the question is will the folks be allowed to come into the country and wait for the asylum process which takes a couple years. the question is if they show up.
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full senate. i am delighted to see talks are going on with the president, senator capito and others. i would remind that some good bipartisan work has already been done in water infrastructure and very good work on highways and climate. don't waste that. use that as a foundation. >> senator tom carpenter, thank you very much. shelf life coming up next. right now thousands of life-saving doses of the j&j vaccine are about to expire. how they are working to get those into people's arms. o get those into people's arms downy's been taking you back, since way back. with freshness and softness you never forget feel the difference with downy.
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everything they can. coming up with a lot of creative solutions in west virginia. they started a new lottery where they are giving away hunting weapons as a prize for people who get the vaccine. in ohio the extend the shelf life of the j&j vaccines but that won't change the issue around demand because there is -- there really hasn't been as strong of a demand as there has been for moderna and pfizer. >> so, laura, is there an effort to send these vaccines to other countries that don't have enough vaccine if they're just going to expire? >> so the state officials have been raising concerns with the
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white house about what to do with these -- the doses that they have on their shelves for what i've been told three to four weeks they've been raising this concern and at this point there is no centralized federal effort to try to get these doses shipped abroad. but as you said, of course, there are countries that are close by that could really use these doses. i've spoken to some people in haiti who work in a lot of the health care clinics down there and they're saying the j&j doses would be ideal because it's one shot. you can certainly use it for their population. they have 11 million people and they have administered zero vaccines to date. >> that is a remarkable and very difficult statistic. laura, thank you for your reporting today. appreciate it. joining me is dr. patel, former physician and part of the
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former obama administration. dr. patel thanks for being here. the july 4th deadline president biden set is rapidly approaching and we're still seeing these vaccination numbers dropping across the country and of course, we were just talking about the expired potentially expiring vaccines. do you think states are doing enough to try to get these shots into arms? what do they need to be doing? >> kasie, everybody is trying to do as much as possible including the federal government. this isn't an access problem anymore as you heard laura say. this is really a demand issue. now we need to go to that kind of trusted surogate for the people not taking the shot. that's a large population. there are some parts of the country where there is only 50% vaccinated and that's too few. this now has to move almost to like a zip code level, state supported but it has to come down to kind of private sector
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people who want to have a more normal kind of day to day especially this summer. >> right. well, and of course, we were also talking just a second ago about okay, so these are expiring. what do we do? do we send them overseas because president biden overseas the head of the g 7 superintendent -- summit and vaccines are likely to be a topic. before he left he was asked whether or not we have a global vaccine strategy. let's take a look at what he had to say and then we'll talk about it. >> mr. president, do you expect to come out with a vaccine strategy for the world? >> i have one and i'll be announcing it. thank you. >> so pretty brief there but sounds like we are going to get more information on this. what should our strategy be? >> yeah, so our strategy is not -- we should definitely not let doses expire on shelves, kasie but if we sent every single excess dose it would be a fraction of the billions we
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need. our strategy really does need to be leaning on the other g 7 countries to help augment not just with supply and manufacturing but we're going to really have to support the world health organization's effort, which the biden administration started to do to get easy equatable access for global vaccine at large and that means, kasie, a difficult conversation about cost because many of these countries, even at dramatically reduced prices can't afford these vaccines but then every american needs to realize you being vaccinated depends on the world being vaccinated in terms of getting back to what i call normal prepandemic normal. >> to that very point, we've seen these upticks in variants, which is one of the things we talk about in this context and the president tweeted about the delta strain, which is highly infectious and as he says, spreading rapidly among young people between 12 and 20 years old in the u.k. he said if you're young and haven't gotten your shot yet,
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now is the time. how much more worried about that strain should we be than any others? >> yeah, so i'm incredibly worried. we've been following this variant, the delta variant b.1617.2 and because in the u.k., kasie, we saw it proliferate over a matter of days and that is a dramatic increase. even the variant that we used to call the u.k. variant or alpha variant. so it's something that we're paying attention to. good news, all three of the current vaccines seem to work against this current variant but kasie, we're constantly flirting at the edges. we need to make sure that every vaccine is in american's arms so that we don't allow these variants to further mutate and become different variants that are worse. >> all right. dr. patel, thank you as always for your expertise. stay tuned. up next, chuck todd will speak to dr. fauci about america's
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