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it's good to see you. i'm geoff bennett. and as we come on the air this afternoon, president biden is in the air. he's set to arrive in europe next hour for his first foreign trip as commander in chief. he faces a busy few days tackling a range of issues from the threats posed by russia and china to the global pandemic to climate change. back here in washington, though, the president leaves a key piece
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of his domestic legislative agenda in tatters, that massive infrastructure package. the white house pulled the plug on talks with gop senator shelley moore capito, citing a lack of tangible progress. she is accused by the president now of moving the goalposts. >> i think in the end we never got to the scope of what infrastructure is. the president still had in his plan extraneous items that we felt were not exactly physical infrastructure. they kept moving the goalposts on us. >> so this group pushing for an across the aisle solution. still, it's far from a done deal. the democrats will need to get joe manchin on board, and if the president can't move one republican, how will it be to move a group of senators? we start the hour with nbc news white house report shannon
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pettypiece and punchbowl news founder jake sherman. a big hello to the two of you. shannon, the president is heading over seas just as the white house is deciding to go another route to reach an infrastructure deal. is the white house confident that the negotiations among this new group, this different group, is going to yield a different result? >> reporter: i'll say that administration officials certainly acknowledge that you never have an agreement until you have an agreement. you never have a deal until you have a deal. so things never look close until all of a sudden the pieces fall into place. they have repeated, really, since the very first day they came into office that they understand the legislative process is difficult, it's complex, it's long and they're in it for the long haul. i will say, though, based on conversations i've had with people, there is a lot the
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optimism, i would say, until about a week ago that they would reach an agreement. i think that's surprising to people who were involved in the process. one white house official said it really came down to the fact that president biden wanted to see new money. republicans were not willing to put up new money, and they couldn't agree how to pay for it with republicans unwilling to compromise on any tax increases or agree to those. but there is certainly a sense that the clock is ticking here. there is only so much time the president has to get anything done through congress domestically, legislatively. this administration is keenly aware of that given their experience that many of them had in the obama administration, so they know they have to move quickly and they've been aware of this all along, the concern of getting sucked in to never-ending talks with republicans, so i think you're also seeing that reflected in this decision. >> let's pick up there, jake, because you wrote in "punchbowl" this morning, president biden
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couldn't get an infrastructure deal with one generally reasonable senate republican. so now he's going to try to find a deal with 20 republicans and democrats who agree on very little. how will they let this play out a little bit? >> reporter: there are plenty of upsides to these talks, there are also a significant number of downsides. number one, to what shannon said, i agree wither had, but i'll take it a step further and say he's already been sucked into endless negotiations with republicans. of course they will come to an end at some point, but they have moved from one republican to a group of republicans. why is this good? i'll tell you why it's good. number one, joe manchin wants bipartisanship, and if he can't get bipartisanship, he at least wants to try. joe biden will be key here and that will be key to getting joe manchin on board here to whatever happens at the end of the day. there is a huge downside here.
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how do they end these talks if there is no solution, no deal that comes out of it? why does it end, at what point does it end? they've entered into this sort of knotty maze they have to try to get out of. if you look at this group, geoff, you have to ask yourself the simple question, is joe manchin and kyrsten sinema representative of the democratic caucus at large? the answer to that is no. so are they going to cut a deal that the democratic caucus at large is going to be happy with, and the answer to that is also no. so i would treat this with a very healthy dose of skepticism about whether a deal can come together, but it's absolutely a big moment for a president who is trying to show that he's the dealmaker he once was in trying to get a deal he says is crucial to the economy, crucial to the country in its recovery from covid. >> jake, to your smart point that manchin and sinema don't rell represent the party, what's
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the potential for the white house losing the left? he said, an infrastructure package that goes light on economy should not count for every democratic vote. he said, while i'm still nervous, we must get dems together on climate in an infrastructure bill should we get sucked into bipartisanship. should they be concerned on the left? >> yes, and they should be even more concerned where democrats enjoy like a five-seat majority and they can't pass hardly anything because of that very tight majority. you can count in the house, you can count on basically zero republican support. so then you have to deal with a group of house democrats who are going to be skeptical of spending a lot of money, and then a group of liberal house democrats who are going to be skeptical of either not spending enough money or not including enough provisions on climate, on any host of issues.
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so this is just really a treacherous path for biden and democrats. a lot of democrats i've talked to up here, geoff, suggest it's time to just consider going it alone, getting a bill over to the senate, getting it over to the house and grinding it out instead of talking to republicans at this point. >> jake sherman and shannon pettypiece, my thanks to the two of you for getting started this hour. i want to bring in senator mark warner. he's democrat of virginia. he serves on the intelligence committee. i want to start here because you were part of this group working to negotiate this compromise. you met in the capitol for about three hours. a couple questions on that front. does your group have the blessing of senate leadership, and did you arrive at any sort of hard agreements last night, either a top line number or how you're going to pay for this tough infrastructure package? >> geoff, first i want to put into context some of your earlier commentary from your reporters who are masters of
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conventional wisdom. all the same naysaying was said about this group's efforts back in november and december of last year, and you know what happened? we ended up with a over $900 billion investment to help in the aftermath of covid that got, i believe in the senate, close to 90 votes. i know conventional wisdom is we can't get there, and candidly, this group's real efforts only started after the capito/biden talks ended. secondly, someone that believed the capito numbers were way too adequate. i'm not going to be part of anything that is substantially more than what the capito discussions were around. also we're not going to do anything that the president and the white house don't sign off on. so i agree in terms of the people pulling out their hair if
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these were talks going on for weeks. but the president continues to express, the white house continues to express that they want to see if there is a substantial down payment made on infrastructure that can have bipartisan support. as someone who -- and very open to other parts of this package being done to reconciliation, someone who is very open said it's not fair to americans that the businesses in america pay the lowest corporate percentage tax in the world. there is something that might not get done in a bipartisan package but can get done in subsequent effort. >> let me ask you this, because the president has said he wants this infrastructure package to be big and bold. does the pursuit of bipartisanship undermine his stated goal? >> again, if we go back and -- at some point, and again, i'm not going to get into numbers right now because i've done a lot of these.
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it's better to actually not negotiate through the press. but if you look at the bills that have been proposed out of the house, if you look at some of the suggestions the president has had, i think, as somebody, a former governor who knows how much we need, not just roads and bridges but things like broadband, things like upgrading our grid, trying to deal with climate change, i'm all in, and i think, you know, the numbers we're talking about are, again, very substantially greater than anything that were in the previous conversations and in many categories very close to what the president has suggested. >> so as you mentioned, you've been a part of a number of these types of negotiations. you don't want to get into specifics, you say. when you left that room after three hours of talks, did you leave feeling hopeful that you will get to a place where you will be able to find the potentially ten votes if it has to get 60 votes in the senate
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that you would need from republicans and that you would also get the blessing from the white house? >> i felt that the republican partners we were talking with last night, i think they came away thinking we could get this across the line. again, as you guys have laid out, they have to get another 5-plus republicans, and i have to make sure at the end of the day this package is palatable to my progressive colleagues on the democratic side. a lot of that will depend on if the president feels as if this is a good first step. i'm not going to be supportive of something out here that the president is not going to be supportive of. for an initiative that in reality only started last night because it really couldn't get engaged. there were some preliminary conversations done by only one or two senators. this group rolling up their sleeves, that have a track
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record actually of producing a $900 billion bill back in december, that is the law of the land. some of your commentators may have forgotten that effort, but it was the second or third largest bill in american history. i would give this group a couple days, and if we're a week from now and there is not an offer and bid accepted on the table, then i think all the criticism is valid. >> okay. i will check back with you a week from now on this front. since we have you, i want to draw on your experience in your role as chairman of the senate intelligence committee. the president will be sitting down with the president of geneva. they said they're not expecting any deal or specific outcomes from this sit-down. what in your mind is the metric of success for this meeting? >> i think the first metric is -- and it's a pretty low bar -- is to have a president of the united states that actually
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is willing to stand up to vladimir putin and not kowtow him the way donald trump did a few years back in helsinke. it was not only a national, but international embarrassment, number one. number two, i think he needs to reiterate the message that further interference in our elections cannot and will not stand and america will punch back in a variety of ways if those efforts continue. number three, i think it is critically important that he also reiterate that the level of cyber activity that is coming both from the russian government and from cyber criminals that at least have the acquiescence of the russian government in terms of ransomware, solar winds in 18 countries in america that were intercepted, that cannot stand. i hope he will bring an international message on that front, because with the g-7, this is a phenomenona not just
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happening in america. it shut down gas stations. this is an international problem. finally, i think he needs to stand up for our friends in ukraine and the other nations that are democratic nations, nato and otherwise, that are near russia that feel the, frankly, undue pressure from a variety of fronts from the russian regime. >> senator mark warner, democrat from virginia, chairman of the senate intelligence committee. appreciate your time as always, sir. >> thank you, geoff. meanwhile, the domestic agenda still taking shape. the president is turning to a wide range of foreign policy problems on his plate. right now air force one is just about an hour from touching down in the u.k., kicking off his first trip abroad, as we just talked about. it will be a whirlwind eight-day swing ranging from a friendly meeting with the queen to a potentially frosty one with vladimir putin. the president offered a preview before jetting off today.
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>> speaking with the alliance, making putin and china that the g-7 is pretty tight and we'll make a move. >> would you be able to work out any kind of understanding with him on the cyberattacks? >> who knows. it's going to be a tough nut to crack. >> molly, we should say there are reports that the biden administration plans to buy 500 million pfizer doses on give to the world. how will they receive president biden as he makes his way there, and given this news about this
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significant donation of covid vaccines? >> reporter: hey, geoff. yeah, big week and big news. so as we just heard, he was, of course, asked about that vaccine this morning. he said he would announce it and now these reports are coming out just about an hour before he touches down. this is huge. 500 million doses of the pfizer vaccine to covid. that's what people have been asking the united states to do. vaccine sharing, vaccine strategy, that's going to be a huge topic of discussion. other big share challenges, geoff, that we're expecting to be talked about in the next couple days in cornwall at the g-7. climate change, china, basically things the united states knows they can rally their allies around. geoff, they have one big mission for this trip. for the white house, this is mission re-engage and really reassure european allies, the
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alliances, that president biden is here to honor those alliances, and that's all about resetting the relationship. for the u.k.'s part, i'm here in london, the u.k. wants the biden administration to know that they weren't too cozy with the trump administration. they value their relationship with america, they're ready to work with the biden administration. the other things we're really going to be watching, of course, over the next couple days. he has that first meeting with the president of geneva, and he will do what he can before meeting with president putin next week. they videotaped the president brushing a cicada off his neck. he made a joke to waiting
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the white house said federal investigators have launched an investigation after one of the shocking exposures of private information about america's most wealthy and how little many of them pay in taxes. in a minute we'll dig into the fallout, but first hallie jackson is following the money. >> reporter: think of it this way. if you paid$1 in federal income tax in, say, 2018, you paid more than elon musk that year, according to this report, and he probably makes a lot more money than you. that's why this report is such a stunner, because of how vividly it shows in black and white how the tax system works in different ways for different people. some democrats seizing on this reporting, and so is the treasury department for a very different reason, now investigating how this personal info got out. they're the biggest billionaires in america behind brands like amazon and tesla. their personal fortunes enormous, but it turns out their tax bills in some cases are not. not even close, as newly
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revealed records show exactly how the ultra rich can work the system to pay nothing in income tax in certain years. the new report produced by the nonprofit news organization "propublica." >> what we've shown is actually the system is upside down. the ultra wealthy pay less in tax than the average person. >> reporter: in 2018, for example, "propublica" found that elon musk paid no federal income tax. neither did jeff bezos in 2007 or 2011, the same year he claimed a 400,000 child tax credit. >> as shocking as it is, nothing that they did is illegal. everything that they did is in keeping with our tax code. and the basic reason is we tax income, not wealth. >> reporter: rich people often grow their fortunes through stocks, real estate or companies, so they don't have to pay taxes until they sell.
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and they can offset their income in other ways, too, meaning it's legal to be worth a lot and pay a little. >> this will start a debate that's well needed in america. >> reporter: "propublica" points out that some years they did pay millions in taxes. bezos did not respond to nbc's request for comment, but he tells them that most of his money will go to taxes. nbc news has not verified the documents propublica used. now the disclosure investigation will send this material to the inspector general, the fbi and the u.s. attorney general for d.c. the report adding fuel to the fire for democrats like elizabeth warren pushing for a wealth tax. >> what this shows is it's only hardworking middle-class
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families that actually pay income tax. the billionaires all keep their money in wealth accumulation and pay no taxes at all on it. that's just not right. >> reporter: i think it's important to really emphasize what you heard in that story, that this is legal, right? it is not against the law to work the tax system, but that is why you are seeing some in congress call for some changes moving forward. as for how these documents, this data itself was revealed in the first place, the treasury department is now referring an investigation into the unauthorized disclosure of what they call this confidential material to its inspector general, the fbi and the u.s. attorney for d.c. back to you. >> hallie jackson, our thanks to you. with us now is tax expert and pulitzer prize-winning reporter david cay johnson. thank you for being with us. you tell us in 55 years you have reported on taxes. this is the most important story by far.
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how is that? >> this is detailed tax return data on thousands of very wealthy americans. while i've shown here is how you can be tax free and in a few cases gotten tax returns showing that, they've shown that these are not anomalies, this is the system. working people pay heavy taxes, people at the very top pay little to no taxes because congress made it that way. >> so explain how it actually works, then. a billionaire pays less taxes than somebody who makes $500 a week, or a family who might make $200,000 a year combined income. how does the system work? >> i pay a higher tax rate than three of the four people they focused on and almost the person who paid the highest level of tax, elon musk. and i'm not in the 100%. the way it works is people who have capital income, not wages or salaries, but capital income can take losses to offset their gains whereas you and i, geoff,
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can only take $3,000 a year of losses to offset our wages. they can take unlimited amounts. they can invest in real estate which has paper losses, not actual losses, to make income go away. and you can borrow against your wealth. if you've got billions of dollars, the irs sets the interest rate, you can borrow from yourself at a fraction of 1% currently for the short haul, and why would you pay even the lowest tax rate when you could borrow for 2% and your fortune is growing faster and faster every year? by the way, when you die, you don't have to pay taxes, either. you can give all your money to a private foundation employing your family. >> look, for the non-tax savvy among us, this isn't something regular americans can do. i can't watch into h and r block and say, i want to do what jeff
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bezos does. hook me up. >> we have two tax systems separate, one for workers and one for very wealthy owners of capital. tax returns were public, by the way, 100 years ago. they were routinely published in newspapers. founders of sears roebuck paid x amount on y. there is no reason why we can't do that again. it's the end of an era for now, at least. before taking off for europe, president biden signed an executive order stopping the bans on tiktok, wechat or other foreign apps. president biden has directed the commerce department and other federal agencies to investigate apps with ties to, quote, foreign adversaries that may
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legislation. they came armed with a 75-foot-long scroll listing thousands of signatures to demand the senate pass the potentially landmark bill. >> we've had some bumps this week, but that doesn't mean that we give up. it means we double down. we fight back for our democracy. >> and joining us now from capitol hill is nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell. leigh ann, democratic lawmakers tried to put forward a united front, but there was one democrat in particular that was missing and that was joe manchin. what did they it will you today? >> reporter: that's right, geoff, joe manchin did not go to that rally in front of the supreme court to pass this for the people act, but they did talk about senator joe manchin. they didn't name him explicitly, but that was implied in their messaging, i did catch up with
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rafael warnock of georgia and i asked him how he would respond to senator manchin's opposition. listen to what he had to say. >> there are conversations happening right now in the u.s. senate. i was on the phone this morning with folks at the white house. people understand how important this moment is, and, look, there will be some back and forth, so sausage making, but in the end, if the people can't have their voice in a democracy, it's not a democracy. and i'm not about to allow that to happen in our country without a fight. >> reporter: senator warnock and other senators i spoke to said they're also having individual conversations with senator manchin, working with him to see what changes in the legislation could be made to convince him to sign on to this. but the reality is he says he wants republican support in order to back this bill, and republican support is something that is absolutely not there. senate minority leader mitch
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mcconnell said yesterday that he doesn't support it again, he said he also doesn't support the john lewis voting rights act, either, so this is a very uphill battle to pass this legislation even if they get senator joe manchin on board. they would still need ten republicans to also support it. but this rally today, the culmination is expected to be a vote in the senate later this month on that legislation regardless if there is the votes or not, geoff. >> quickly, leigh ann, can you update us on where things stand with police reform because you were first on some reporting about where things stand. >> reporter: that's right, things actually looking quite good. the issue of the big sticking point qualified immunity is mostly settled. my sources tell me and i just found out right before we came on air that legislative text is currently being circulated on this issue, so that is another positive sign, and we could -- the public could see that, the
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details, relatively soon, geoff. >> you heard it here first. nbc's leigh ann caldwell. thank you for your great reporting as always. merrick garland is on capitol hill right now. he's testifying about the budget. this is an opportunity for people to ask questions of the attorney general, and democrats in particular may have the toughest questions for the leader of the budget department. in the past week, some of garland's decisions have raised eyebrows. e. jean carroll has accused former president trump of assaulting her in the 1990s. and a memo formed bill barr's decision not to pursue obstruction of justice charges against donald trump. joining us now is law professor and former attorney barbara mcquade. she's also an msnbc legal
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analyst. barbara, i think it's fair to say that biden supporters hoped garland would want to settle the score with donald trump and bill barr. what is your reaction to something that is opposite what a lot of democrats hoped? >> i think merrick garland is demonstrating what independence and nonpartisanship looks like. it doesn't mean you're taking the opposite position of everything bill barr did. it means looking at the law and thinking about the institutional needs of the government, including the executive branch and defending those things. things like delivering qualified immunity and taking positions about executive power that preserve those institutions. not really looking to the outcome, whether this helps or harms donald trump or helps or harms joe biden, but whether they are protecting the institutions of the presidency and the executive branch.
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>> could this be seen in any way as garland overcorrecting, trying to avoid even the appearance of partisanship? i know you have the vision of a dad coaching his son in little league. >> some of these things i could disagree, and i disagree with them. i think it's a stretch to say donald trump was working in his scope of president when he assaulted e. jean carroll. he is taking positions to prove just how independent he is. maybe that's a good thing, maybe that's a bad thing, but i suppose when he can demonstrate that independence that when the time comes to make a very hot button decision, like whether to charge donald trump with obstruction of justice or sedition conspiracy or something of that nature, he will have built up some goodwill for those
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decisions. >> garland was asked during this hearing about the defense of donald trump and the criticism he's received. let's take a look at that. >> our job in doing so is to ensure adherence to the rule of law, which is a fundamental requirement of a democracy or a republic or a representative democracy. and the essence of the rule of law is what i said when i accepted the nomination for attorney general. it is that like cases be treated alike, that there not be one rule for democrats and another for republicans, that there not be one rule for friends and another for foes. now, it is not always easy to apply that rule. sometimes it means that we have to make a decision about the law that we would never have made and that we strongly disagree
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with as a matter of policy. but in every case, the job of the justice department is to make the best judgment it can as to what the law requires. >> that strikes me as a crystal clear explanation, barb, but what's your take on what you just heard? >> i think that goes to his entire theme of his administration so far about this idea of adherence to the rule of law being nonpartisan, being independent. for example, i think some people were surprised when doj took the position of fighting back against the state of california which has banned the federal government with contracting with private prisons. it doesn't mean that doj or merrick garland favor private prisons. i bet if you asked them individually how they feel about it, they would say it's a terrible policy. but it's a right for the federal government to enter into contracts. so these kinds of process rules
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might run afoul of some of the policy interests that joe biden favors, but that's what it means to have an independent party of justice. >> barbara mcquade, appreciate your time. coming up next, jacob soboroff gives us an inside look at a door-to-door look at trying to separate migrants at the border. i haven't taken the vaccine, and the reason is i don't trust it. i'm sorry, i just don't. >> i made it this far without getting covid and i don't need to get vaccinated. getting covid and i don't need to get vaccinated. ♪♪ don't flex your pecs. terminix. ♪ sometimes you wanna go ♪ ♪ where everybody knows your name ♪ ♪♪
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separated. my colleague jacob soboroff got an inside look at an effort by volunteers who are now going door to door on a mission to reunite these families. joining us now is nbc correspondent jacob soboroff. jacob, it strikes me that these are volunteers doing this work. this is a really heartfelt mission. >> there are people volunteering with seneca agencies, and there are employees of this group that are going out and paid by a contract with the u.s. government that was ordered by a federal judge who said that because of the severe mental trauma of families who went through separations endured that they were entitled to mental health services, therapy, and hundreds of them have yet to be located. because of covid, they weren't able to go door to door to find them until now. in san antonio, more than a year after beginning to track down separated families, a search that had been largely virtual is now physical. >> this car is going to take you all the way across country?
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>> pretty. >> sandra and these women all worked for them after the government offered health services because of what he called trauma. >> how is that possible? >> covid. >> what is it exactly you're doing? >> knocking on doors to see if we can find families. >> social services by training, did you ever think you would be investigators? >> never. >> we hopped in the jeep and went to the first stop of almost 200. >> this is a copy of our flyer and then a little note just saying we're trying to get in contact. >> were you separated from your kids when you came to the united states? >> right. >> before we made it a detour. >> whether do you guys start? >> we're going to post this up.
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>> it's almost amazing to think about that this restaurant on this random street by just calling one of the phone numbers on there could be the way they find one, if not more, of the separated families. >> seneca has already made contact with over 1,000 families and connected over 250 to services. after a short drive we made it to the first house based on the last known information provided by the government. chandra and bonika got out and yolana stayed behind so as not to startle the family and protect their identity. how did it go? >> success! >> no way! >> yay! >> what did you find? >> mom was home. so she's interested in services
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for the family. >> we got her number, the dad's number. i'm so excited. >> my heart is like pounding. i'm so happy. it was nice to see her in person and she knows that we're here to help them. >> lucky first try. 199 or so to go. they carried on stop after stop after stop. by evening we made it to the outskirts of austin. on the second day the team split up to cover more ground. >> what is it about this work that necessitates you guys going door to door like this? >> the work starts with the trauma they suffered with the separation. >> what does that mean? >> parents feeling guilty for what happened, not able to talk to their children about the experience they went through. >> how do you keep that optimism? >> i think just knowing there are families we've connected to services, that it's been helping them. >> reporter: in a few days and 500 miles later, in new orleans
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we met up again. this time chandra was joined by two other colleagues. we headed out west toward lake upon char train and baton rouge. we met a father and son, luis and luis jr. who were separated in 2018 and were already receiving therapy by seneca. they didn't want to show their faces. how did you hear about seneca? >> they called us on the phone and said we want to help you. what happened was very hard. but because of the organizations and god, we're able to be together. >> after going through what you guys went through, did it help you? >> it helped me to not think about the bad things, just the good things. >> a long healing process only now just beginning. >> geoff, this was a really fruitful trip for this organization. they made contact with 33 families that they had not yet been able to locate prior to going out on the road.
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they say that it was so successful they're going to do another trip up and down the east coast later this summer. >> jacob, one of the reasons why this group's work is so critical is because the trump administration, when they compiled information on the kids whom they separated from their families, that information, a lot of it, was wrong, it was incomplete or entirely they're doing great work and you're doing great reporting as always. thanks for bringing that to us. >> thank you. president joe biden just landed in the uk. looking live at royal air force base mildenhall where u.s. air forces are based. joining us from mildenhall is raf sanchez. raf, give us an update. >> reporter: geoff, air force one just touched down here a few minutes ago. we saw the blue plane passing between these military building s and a flurry of activity on this base. we saw u.s. military humvees moving around. this base is home to the 100th
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air refueling wing. this say key unit that keeps military aircraft in the sky on long missions, above europe and above africa. president biden will be going straight to speak to some of the 1600 -- i'm sorry, 16,000 american military personnel on this base. he will be addressing them. this is the first stop on a trip where he is trying to show the world that the u.s. is ready to once again lead the world's democracies to be strong on the global stage, to stand up to authoritarian regimes, like russia, like china. this trip begins with meetings with allies here in europe, but it's going to end with that summit face-to-face with vladimir putin. so all the way through president biden will be looking to project strength. he's going to be at this base here in suffolk, england, then
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moving down to cornwall where the g7 summit will be happening over the weekend. his first meeting tomorrow with prime minister boris johnson of the uk. that will be an interesting meeting. prime minister johnson was close to president trump. at one point president biden described him as the physical and emotional clone of president trump. we also know jake sullivan, the president's national security adviser, spoke to the press on air force one on that trip over from the atlantic. as you talked about at the top of the show, we are expecting president biden to announce during this trip that the u.s. will be donating some 500 million pfizer doses to about 100 countries around the world. that is an effort once again to reassert american leadership. and in that phrase that president biden keeps repeating, to show that america is back. geoff? >> raf sanchez, thanks to you.
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only 14 states have hit that benchmark so far. alabama is second to last for covid vaccines. there's no way they're going to hit that fourth of july target. allison, why is alabama so far behind right now? >> reporter: it kind of seems to be a combination of reasons, from skepticism to outright conspiracy theories. we're in russell county, which is the least vaccinated county in the entire state. people we've spoken to here, who have opted not to get vaccinated, they've given us a host of reasons. one person, when i said why have you not been vaccinated? she simply said i'm a bit of a conspiracy theorists. another person told us they didn't trust the vaccines and weren't entirely sure they believed the death toll because of this virus. another person said they just didn't really feel like they needed it. those are all their words, not mine.
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again, this is the least vaccinated county in the second least vaccinated state. statewide only about 30% of alabamaians have been fully vaccinated. in this county it's less than 15%. we met one family who actually lost their mother to covid-19 about a month ago. we met with them and talked to her oldest son, antonio, at the restaurant that she owned, not far from here. her name is katherine ann burnridge, someone who was beloved in this community. she was a mother of four, a grandmother. she had, again, a local restaurant. she loved to cook. she loved people. listen to what her son told us about his experience. >> when she got sick, she was about to get vaccinated, right? >> yes. >> how soon was that? >> she got sick that thursday. she had an appointment that following tuesday. so less than a week away.
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covid is real. like i say, you don't know until it's on your street. like when i had to deal -- i didn't get real -- i was sick maybe two days, you know, light symptoms. but, you know, like i said, an elderly person that got pre-existing in illnesses, it can be fatal. and in our case it was fatal. >> reporter: he told us he was on the fence about getting vaccinated. he had covid. he wasn't sure if he was going to actually go and get a covid-19 vaccine. then he lost his mother and everything changed within a day of her passing away. he got online. he made an appointment to get vaccinated, two days of losing his own mother because of covid-19. he went to a clinic and rolled up his sleeve. geoff? >> allison barber, thanks for that incredible reporting. ayman mohyeldin picks up our coverage next with much more on the president's arrival in the uk moments ago.
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