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last night a swarm apparently messed with the engines of the white house press plane on its way to europe. a replacement plane had to be called in for safety. we're keeping an eye on it but we're glad they haven't caused any more severe problems. that's our final thought on "the beat." that does it for us. "the reidout" is up next. >> if i look traumatized. you kept saying cicadas and swarm and cicadas and swarm. i'm terrified of bugs. i'm traumatized. thanks. >> good evening. we begin "the reidout" with a very basic question. a serious question. what does today's republican party actually stand for? besides voter suppression, the big lie and taking the knee? if you're a sentient being you would look back at the last five months and try to take stock of what republicans have brought to the table. a quick scan shows that you they're not down for much.
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they don't support investigating the january 6 insurrection. they don't believe in making voting easier. they don't believe making mass shootings harder to pull off. they don't believe women should get the same pay as men. they don't even believe that poor people, and apparently minorities deserve decent wages. here's what a trump appointee economist told fox news. >> for those people, sandra, coming into the labor force brand fresh, not oldtimers who have been around for a while. the poor, the minorities, the disenfranchised, those with less education, young people who haven't the job experience. they are not worth $15 an hour in most cases. >> even on infrastructure, the republicans have made it clear the only way that would happen is if they can make you, the. at a pair, cough you have the dough. detect a pattern yet? earlier today, senator john thune, mcconnell's top deputy, said there's no scenario where even ten republicans would come together to make infrastructure
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happen. here's the reality. republicans are serious about working with president biden on anything. they don't want to give him the ten votes and the win that democrats could take it to the next election. mcconnell broadcast that last month when he told reporters that his caucus from collins to cruz is 100% focused on blocking the biden administration. and yet, with only one party that is serious about democracy or governing or anything, why do democrats keep bellying up to the table in good faith, pro posing ideas on how to improve health care, infrastructure, equality and access to voting? at a certain point, shouldn't it be clear that republicans love to tease democrats and the public with a hint of compromise, only to yank it away like lucy and the football from charlie brown. meanwhile they just run out the clock. how much longer will democrats keep playing along? joining me now, senator warren. i'm so glad you are available to be on with us tonight. i have been dying to talk to you. you don't seem like the time of
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democrat who is willing to sit around and chitchat with the john thunes for like eight months and try to get bipartisanship. you want to get things done. you're the lady with a plan why. are democrats still playing along with this game? >> so i see it this way. i think that the president did the right thing. he said i'm willing to be bipartisan, come in, let's talk. but not to hold things up. what we're doing now as democrats, we're negotiating out an infrastructure package and we need to make sure that we're going full speed ahead. republicans want to join us? fine. if they don't, we don't slow down for them. we need to move forward. we need to deliver on our promises. and that means now. >> well, yes. also, the 2022 election, we can't lose sight of that. democrats ran on some stuff and people are expecting it to get done. if it doesn't, why do i vote for them? it doesn't do anything.
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i have to till, young folks around me, people i'm talking to are saying i'm sick of being told i have to vote. when democrats get in, they say i can't do anything because mitch won't let me. do you see that? >> we can't stand here and say, this is too hard. no. we have the majority. i know it is a little tiny, skinny, skinny majority, but it is a majority. and that means we need to deliver. we need to deliver on infrastructure. and that means, sure, roads and bridges. it also means mass transit. it also means communications. it also means childcare. it means helping women get back into the work force and it means making those jobs that are principally held by women, and women of color. making those care giving colors good, dean, dependable, well paying jobs. we need to do that as part of our infrastructure bill. we need to be making the investment in green as far as our infrastructure bill.
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building a 21st century infrastructure. and remember, joy, it's not just infrastructure. right now, president biden this evening could sign a piece of paper and cancel student loan debt for $50,000. he could wipe out all student loan debt for 38 million americans. and substantially cut it. for another 5 million americans. think what that would mean for people across this country. it is an economic justice issue and a racial justice issue. we're democrats. we ran on getting stuff done and we need to get it done. >> especially a lot of young people. that's what they voted for and they're waiting for it to happen. i would identify as chamber of commerce democrats. you've got some koch brothers democrats. joe manchin is getting a lot of pressure from the koch organization. they are in league with him in
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some way. i'm not saying how. but obviously, he has connections to them. is part of the problem here that the same kind of dark money that s-1 wants to eliminate is also playing a part in some of these democrats saying, we're not getting rid of the filibuster. we're not touching it. we're not doing voting rights. we're not doing anything the coats don't want. >> look. dark money has been washing through washington for decades now and it has just gotten worse. and one of the things we've got to do and i'm so glad you raised this. we have to protect the vote that is a key part of s-1. the second part is we have to be willing to stand up and drive back the corruption. so right now, that's a big conversation within our caucus. we're having a lot of talk back and forth. but both pieces need to be strong and we need to go forward on them. i'm hopeful.
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but i'm worried. and more than anything else, i am in this fight. i know it has been a bad week on this. when it is a bad week, that means it is time to double down and to get tougher in this fight. we must deliver as democrats. >> how do you do that? the koxs have made it clear, there was that audio release in the january the new yorker came out with, the idea of getting rid of dark money is popular with republicans. we can't argue against it on the merits. we need to kill it. now you see not just republicans looking to kill it. you see people like manchin who was a co-sponsor of s-1. he was a co-sponsor of this bill. now he's on record against it. it makes people wonder whether money is starting to may a part. and by the way, one last thing. these are rich folks who don't pay taxes and they don't want to ever pay taxes. we just had that big report come out that they pay zero. and they want to keep paying zero. and i worry that people like manchin is helping them.
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>> we're not through yet. we're still in the middle of negotiations around this. and i'm in the fight and there are a lot of democrats who are in this fight. and we are determined. we're going to protect the vote and we'll roll back the corruption. those are both key. but joy, look, it would be foolish to deny that there are buckets of rich people out there. ceos who say, you know what? i like the system just like it is and they want the system on stay the way it is. so sure. there is a lot of pressure back. because the republicans are in lock step with mitch mcconnell. there's also pressure from folks who don't want to see us make any change but that doesn't matter. we ran on making change. we made promises to people and it is our obligation to get out there and fulfill those promises. if we have to go behind closed doors and talk about how to make happen, then that's what we'll
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do. but we need to come out with an answer as democrats. that's who we are. >> what's the counter leverage? in theory. let's play it out. as you said, you got me -- that pro publica report is damning. they just pay zero in taxes. everybody out there getting taxes taken out of your check, you pay more than jeff bezos and all these people. the incentives are so strong. what can you offer back to democrats who say they're for voting rights. they say they're for reform. what is the counter leverage on people like that? >> democracy. if we deliver, then people will show up. if we follow through on our promises, then people will come. remember, we got georgia when nobody thought we were going to get georgia. and we got both senators in georgia. and how did we do that? we did it by saying very clearly. here are our promises and
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delivering on those promises. we want to win georgia again. we want to win at any of these states again? then answer is deliver on the promise that's we have made. and we have got to get out and do that. to me, that's what this is all about. so you can say, i understand that there are lots of rich people pushing. but at the end of the day, most of these senators, they want to get reelected. and that means they got to go out and face the people who voted for them last time. face the people who turned out. face the people who put heart and soul on the line. and the argument that i make right now within the caucus, and i'll say it here publicly. you want to win, then deliver on your promises. you want to be seen as somebody who fights for america's middle class? then get out there and fight for america's middle class. you want to be seen as someone who isn't in league with the rich guys but is really here for working families? then get out here and be for
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working families. because if you do that, you put your faith in democracy and that is how it is. that people, i hope, i believe, i pray will be drawn back in and will vote again in 2022, 2024. we just got to do what we promised to do. >> i hope they listen to you, senator warren. that's what people are screaming at their tvs right now. there are promises made. keep the promises. that's how you get reelected. senator elizabeth warren, always a treat. thank you. so for being here. up next on "the reidout," president biden on restoring the world's dignity after four years of orange humiliation. plus, congressman val demings is running against little marco. this will be fun. plus, the epidemic of stupid is still a raging wildfire.
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remember this? this was the former president of the united states famously shoving the prime minister of montenegro during a 2017 summit so he could be in the front line for a photo op. it was one of many embarrassments and awkward moments with world leaders at home and abroad. it was no surprise that donald trump earned a reputation of pretty much a joke on the world stage. justin trudeau was even caught on camera mocking him along with boris johnson and french president emmanuel mac ron in 2019. in fact, public opinion of the u.s. abroad hit record lows during the trump administration when the median approval ratings stood at just 18%. that's in part because trump
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expressed nothing but disdain while lavishing praise on our adversaries. he said that he fell in love with kim jong il after the failed summit. but trump didn't practice his love with anybody like did he with vladimir putin evensiding with him. and when it came to nato or dealing with the middle east, trump made a mockery of u.s. foreign policy every chance he got. >> if they want us to do the fighting, they also have to pay a price. and sometimes that is also a monetary price. so we're not the suckers of the world. >> we're protecting germany, we're protecting france, we're protecting everybody. and yet we're paying a lot of money to protect. >> if it breaks up nato, it breaks up nato. >> now we take the oil. we should have kept the oil. now we go in. we knock the hell out of them. take oil. we take their wealth. >> some people like the idea of bringing russia back in. this used to be the g-8.
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not the g-7. >> after four years of humiliation, president biden is trying to salvage our dignity and shore up our alliances and he's doing it at a time when democracy isn't exactly strong at home. today kicking off his first overseas trim as president, part of an eight-day international tour that will conclude with putin next week. here's what biden told the u.s. troops stationed. >> we're going to make it clear the united states is back and democracies of the world are standing together to tackle the toughest challenges and the issues that matter most to our future. that we're committed to leading with strength, defending our values and delivering for our people. >> joining me now, pbs correspondent, yamiche. my big question is, how has the
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january 6th insurrection and the fact that we have a major political party that is not dedicated to democracy anymore, how has that impacted biden's sort of sail of america is back in europe? >> it's really impacted in two big ways. the first is that our european allies in nato, the g-7, they're a little shook up by the idea that american democracy has real deep fissures and they're really exposed here. not only of course with the capitol insurrection but the gridlock that followed and we can't even get it together to have an investigation, a bipartisan commission. europe is looking at all of that because these alliances were built on the idea that democracy is strong. and now we're seeing, the other thing it's doing is that ahead of the meeting with the russian president, vladimir putin is looking at january 6th and all the aftermath and seeking to exploit that. seeking to have advantages and showing people, america has its own problems. it can't be selling democracy to you when its own democracy is
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weak. >> yeah. that's a huge point. thank you very much. really appreciate you being here this evening. i want to now bring in the former u.s. ambassador to russia in the obama administration. hopefully you heard what yamiche just said, michael. here's the challenge. the united states has been the principal salesman of the idea of democracy since world war ii. now we can't even have a peaceful transition of power. i wonder, just because these world leaders know joe biden and have known him for decades, is that enough? >> it's not enough. it's exactly right to focus on it for two reasons. one is, he represents some of america but not all of america. we have a fight between democrats and autocrats within the united states. not just between democratic countries and autocratic countries. that's the first problem. the second problem is there's a lot of doubt about what happens after president biden.
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people don't know, is he the last hoorah beginning with world war ii or is this the beginning of democratic renewal that will go on for decades? and i think it is uncertain what the prediction is. so they're hedging their bets about that. and one more thing. thanks for the tour of four years, i forgot about how awful it was. how poorly our president treated our allies and how nicely he treated president putin. do you know who is talking about january 6th? putin. he's talking about the people being repressed by the biden administration and his supporters. in other words, he's still siding with president trump to this day in this battle between those that believe in democracy and america and those that don't. >> we start off by sthofg montenegro ambassador. but even that was sort of a pro putin move.
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there was this weird attitude that putin had toward montenegro so trump just adopted it. he just imaginally picked that person of all people to shove. i wonder, even in russia they have where it looked like for a hot second during the obama administration, when you were ambassador, that maybe they would be able to emerge as a democracy. that didn't last. one election later, putin is back and he ain't never leaving, apparently. he does have this argument that actually, democracy doesn't work. and as does china. the autocracy is actually better. and it is hard for the united states to argue that our system is the best when half of our people don't believe in it. i'm not sure all americans believe in democracy. a lot have said they absolutely do not. >> i couldn't agree more. >> there is never been, it
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weakens president biden when he goes abroad to say we need unite the democracies of the world. i want to be clear. i applaud what he said. we are back. we're going to engage with our allies and we'll talk about values. that's exactly the right frame. but vladimir putin is out there. he's not alone, by the way. he's one of the most vocal voices throughout that says exactly that. that democracy is passe. democracy is dead. it is, liberalism has passed its prime. and we are in an ideological struggle with russia, with china, and we need to get our own house in order to make argument more effectively abroad. >> we know, i wonder if we're fighting the last war a little bit as well. finally the president of ukraine had get his meeting with the president, president biden, a signal to russia that we'll stand with ukraine. but russia is being hyper aggressive. you have all these cyber attacks. they say it's not them but they always say it's not them.
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all these cyber criminals who are acting really aggressively against the united states. i wonder if we need to rethink the paradigm with russia, given he's not getting, he's not backing down at all of he's getting worse. >> i think we do. i think it is right for president biden to meet with president putin. we always met with soviet leaders back in the day, after all, to see where we can cooperate. i do think we have to get out of this reaction that we're in. this tit for tat. they do something and we respond proportionately. i think we need a grand strategy for deterring putin that does not just respond but more proactive on the cyber side, on the corruption side. having affirmative agenda for democratic ideas. after all, there are people inside russia that do believe in democracy. we're not engaging them. so rather than defense, i think we need a comprehensive strategy of offense. >> absolutely.
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and hopefully, president biden will remind putin that he's locked up aleksei navalny. you're not even allowed to be in the political opposition in russia. here we're just struggling with saying people can't vote which is bad enough. thank you for being here. i really appreciate you. up next, congressman val demings is officially announcing. we'll be right back. y announcing we'll be right back. about the t and want to make the right moves fast... get decision tech from fidelity. [ cellphone vibrates ] you'll get proactive alerts for market events before they happen... and insights on every buy and sell decision. with zero-commission online u.s. stock and etf trades. for smarter trading decisions, get decision tech from fidelity. every day unilever does good
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you can't trust them. >> i'm so embarrassed for you. besides lying ted, there is perhaps no more shrunken figure than little marco rubio. hailed as the next obama. he was once the shiny bright future of the republican party. tigging all the boxes, young, diverse, florida. once orange julius caesar cut him down to size along with every other candidate in the 2016 primary, little marco fell in line and fell in love. supporting trump after all that access hollywood tape came out. and they stayed bff's throughout his presidency with rubio tweeting daily bible versus while defending stuff like the trump administration ripping children from their parents. while he originally said that trump bears responsibility for the january 6th insurrection, he soon came to his trump loving senses calling the second impeachment trial stupid.
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he has to wait to see if his dear leader wants to run first. for now he's running for a third senate term where he's gotten the extremely coveted endorsement, he called him leadership on the major issues. now he's facing his nightmare opponent. congressman val demings, a s nig opponent congressman val demings, a woman former police chief. she originally announced her campus seat today. >> poor, black and female. you have to have faith and progress and opportunity. my father was a janitor and my mother was a maid. she said, val, never grow tired. unlike some in washington, i never tire of standing up for what i believe is right. because no one is above the law. i'm running for the united states senate because of two simple words. never tire.
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>> and i'm joined now by florida congresswoman and u.s. senate candidate, val demings. thank you for being here. and i remember the last time we spoke, i remember saying, when you figure out whether it will be for governor or for senate, please come back so do i appreciate you actually coming back. let's talk about how you do this though. i worked a couple of elections in florida. it is a very hard state to win. it is a very narrow state. the senate race and the governor's race were super tight last time. how will you pull this off? >> let me say it is great to be back with you. and look. we are so excited about this race. florida is my home state. it is where i was born and raised. i love the state of florida and i am not willing to give up on florida. you know my story. time daughter of a maid and a janitor. the youngest of seven children, the first in my family to go to college. i worked 27 years at the orlando police department. i had the awesome only had of
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working my way up through the ranks to become orlando's first woman chief of police. i know how to fight a tough fight, joy. i know how to stand by people when they are having their worst moments. apparently, rubio has forgotten one of the most important things in a race. it's not about him. it is about the people that he is supposed to serve. when people needed him the most, specially over the last year when we went through some very tough times, rubio voted against stimulus checks, against help for small businesses, schools, he vote against help at our first responders, our teachers, our health care workers. i'm not afraid of a tough fight. rubio is. and i am going to build the most unique coalition. i'll going to travel the state from the panhandle down to the keys, from tallahassee to miami. and talk to people about what is important for them. i am a unique candidate, the
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right candidate, right time. and i look forward to this race. >> i've got fong you're taking the harley. the thing the republicans like the try to do, i think i have a picture of you on the harley. the thing republicans love to do with democrats is to try to immediately stereo time every democrat as a socialist. i don't think they know it is what but they go for that. it particularly works in a state like florida where people have described the pitch that is typically made to particularly florida latinos as cris, conspiracy theories, calling everyone communists, the qanon stuff. that's all particularly lethal in florida. and ironically, that climbed of politics actually helped trump a little bit. not even a little bit. a lot. with hispanic voters in florida. how do you count per stuff? >> i counter that by reminding the voters of who i am. you're right. i ride a 2003 harley davidson
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motorcycle. i intend to be on that motorcycle quite a bit. but it's really about reminding people who i am. my record as a police chief, i was appointed chief when crime was at an all time high in orlando by bringing the community together, working with the community, reorganizing the department. disbanding some dysfunctional units, standing up more functional units. we were able to reduce violent crime by over 40%. the bottom line is everybody counts and everybody is accountable. just to hear what you just said. that i know rubio will try to do that, it just shows us all that desperate people will do desperate things. >> yeah. and the other issue, and i experienced this in 2000 for the first race i worked. on it's a challenge to sometimes get maximum sort of impact of the african-american vote in florida. there are a lot of unregistered voters.
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it was similar in georgia a long time ago before stacy abrams fwhenl and started to really register voters. how do you take advantage of the fact that you will have an appeal to especially black women who will carry the voter turnout. how do you maximize that turnout? >> i am already very excited about the response that i have had. before the launch, certainly after the launch. this race is about everybody. this race is about leaving nobody behind. this race is about not picking winners and losers based on their ability to pay to play like rubio has done. as i said, we're going to build one of the most unique coalitions and i know black women are already excited. every woman will be excited about this candidacy. this is first time in florida history that an african-american woman, the daughter of a maid and a janitor, my dad used to go
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to work seven days a week to make ends meet for our family, will be running for the u.s. senate. this is exactly what about the american dream is all about. and i'm really excited about it. >> you know, that biography will be very difficult for rubio to characterize in a way republicans typically want to do it. what will be your primary case against him? he's sort of an entrenched figure right now. the media has fallen out of love with him because he fell under trump's boot. but what's the main case about yes shouldn't just stay in office? >> i can take next 40 minutes and talk about all the reasons. but let me go here. i was in the capitol on january 6th. i was there to watch the peaceful transfer of power. when we know all hell broke loose. what we thought was just people demonstrating turned out to be an angry mob. i found myself crawling around on the floor, donning a gas mask. now, we have an obligation to
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find out what happened, who was involved, how that happen, who funded it. that you know the chairman of homeland security, benny thompson in the house, and the ranking member, they've been negotiating for months to come up with an imd commission to investigate. who would not want that. but marco rubio voted against it. he doesn't, obviously does not want to know the truth. we know that wherever the political wins are, that's where you will find marco rubio. so this is about protecting our democracy, joy. everything that we care about and everything that we say, it defines who we really are as a nation is caught up in what happened on january 6th. so if there are those that are listening, who believe in this campaign and would like to take this journey with me, i just ask to you visit my website.
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val demings.com and let's get this done. we can do better. >> and the last very quick question. we finally have his testimony. what do you make of the fact that it has taken thm years to find out, it is not surprising what he said, but that he was pressured to try to push out the special counsel. >> you know, joy, as someone who served on the intel committee and certainly on homeland security, it comes as no surprise. i think the shape of it all is that it took this long to get to the truth. we know, we knew back then, we all know that he was pressured and that pressure could have resulted in criminal charges for him and the president. we need to continue to get to the bottom of it. we need to get the truth and hold those who violated the law accountable. everybody counts but everybody is accountable. >> i wish you the best luck. i want to thank you again for coming this program to talk
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about your run out of the gate. congresswoman for now, val demings. we'll see where you go from here. best of luck. thank you very much. up next, did you know that schools in texas are rated 41st in the nation of quality? how else would you explain this question from congressman louis gohmert on land management? >> is there anything the national forest service or blm can do to change the course of the moon's orbit or the earth's orbit around the sun? obviously that would have profound effects on our climate. >> no, no, no. the national forest service cannot alter the moon's orbit or the orbit around the sun. but that is not the worst. we'll tell you who is, next. e w. we'll tell you who is, next.
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republicans in texas are so triggered by the mere existence of the 1619 project that on monday, governor greg abbott signed a bill that would create the rival 1836 project. marking the date when texas gained its independence from mexico. >> to keep texas the best state in the united states of america, we must never forget why texas became so exceptional in the first place. the 1836 project promotes patriotic education about texas and ensures that the generations to come understand texas values. project 1836 is now law in the great state of texas. >> everyone around him looks so awkward. first of all, patriotic education is literally what china called it after the tiananmen square massacre. it calls on promoting the history of prosperity and
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democratic freedom in this state. okay, so let's talk about what the democratic freedom entails. since there is no mention of slavery in the bill. texans love to remember the alamo. what happened in 1836 was that residents decided to break from mexico so they could continue to own slaves. mexico had abolished the vile practice. texas was the reason it reminded its own nation and texas second edded from the union because of slavery. slavery. that's something that was only added to the texas curriculum if 2019. 2019. while the bill does mention juneteenth, it is far from a proud moment for the lone star state since slavery end ad full two and a half years after the signing of the emancipation proclamation since no one bothered to tell the slaves they were free for two whole years. here's the thing. as an investigation points out,
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the version of texas history taught in school is often sanitized and there is nothing in the bill that suggests texas won't continue to whitewash history. meanwhile, another bill is waiting on governor abbott's dpeks would ban critical race theory which is only taught in law schools. the bill includes language that the school may not require, the concept that the ad vent of slavery constituted the founding of the united states. it said that it does. it is in the actual constitution. texas ranks pretty low on education. 41 in the nation. so it might not want to limit its students' learning. and texas affects when the entire nation learns about since texas is so big that publishers found it was profitable to take a book crafted to appeal to texas and market it largely unchanged in other states. so take this governor greg abbott for the great fairytale history to make your students
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it sure is good to see you. the u.s. is increasingly unlikely to reach the president's goal of having 70% of american adults partially vaccinated by the fourth of july. as of this week 64% of adults have received one shot while the pace of new vaccinations is dropping. vaccine hesitancy is one of the biggest hurdles along with anti-vaxxors, like this physician who told ohio state lawmakers a very not true thing, that the vaccine causes people to turn into magnets. >> is it a combination of the protein, which we're finding has metal attached to it.
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i'm sure you've seen the people on the internet who are now mag magnatized. >> that actually was my first question and now i have to go to you, because now i'm actually upset. i am in the pfizer sorority. i ain't got my magnets. nothing is sticking to me. i feel like i was robbed. the doctor is licensed in ohio. >> joy, what's going on, first of all? >> i want a magnet. >> exactly. i want to know where she went to
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medical school at, disney world? it would be funny if the implications weren't so serious. what we're dealing with now at the onset of the vaccine distribution we had a supply and demand issue. now we have plenty of vaccine and we're trying to convince folks to take the vaccine because it's in their best interest. what's particularly disturbing is that a lot of the folks who predicted armageddon and zombie apocalypse, they were wrong and we're still not holding them accountable. so we have doctors saying things that are completely false and actually putting people's lives and putting our country in danger. i don't even know what to say. >> absolutely. we joke about this. dr. tampani. don't let her treat y'all if you're in ohio. i have also encountered people
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who won't take it because they don't trust it. there are a lot of black folks. african-americans, our vaccination rate is the lowest other than republicans who are resistant. we're really in trouble here. what do you say to people who say i don't want to get this vaccine? what do you say to convince them? >> it's not so much about what i have to say. it's what they have to say. i think the most important thing is to listen and learn and actually understand their perspective. but it's hard to ignore the ubiquitous amount of information,/disinformation out there. it's been the misinformation olympics. what we have to do is combat that and give them information, but also understand where they're coming from, because a lot of black folks understand that historically and now, today, our health care system
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fails them in ways that the pandemic has revealed to the world. so we have to address those issues, that address the fundamental issues in our government, in our history. i heard last segment talking about critical race theory. that's important because that validates what we lived. that's our everyday life. you have to at least connect with that so you can then give them the appropriate amount of information so they can make good fundamental health decisions that's in their best interest and their community's. >> dana, it would be bad enough if it was just the random quack, but you also have people in politics. you have marjorie taylor green. listen. >> it's a bioweapon. we need to be very clear about what was the intent of covid-19 and these viruses that they experiment with like some sort of dr. frankenstein experiments. these are bioweapons. there's no other reason to
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create a virus that makes people sick, spreads so quick and kills people. i don't believe in that type of so-called science. i don't believe in evolution. i believe in god. >> marjorie green believes a bioweapon. her proof is because she doesn't believe in evolution. your witness, dana. >> you know, she frequently leaves us with no words, that fine woman. but the problem is it's not just her. it's not just the usual loonies. you have half of the republicans in congress won't get the vaccine. you have tucker carlson on night after night telling people the vaccine kills them. you know what kills people? listening to tucker carlson, because they're not going to get vaccinated and they will die as a result of taking this advice from fox news and from the republican leadership. the skepticism among black
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americans is very understandable given the history the doctor was just talking about. the skepticism among republicans is a case of malpractice by dr. green, dr. carlson and the magnet doctor. >> in addition to that, you've got lindsey graham saying if the lab leak theory is true, it exculpates donald trump from the whole way we think about he dealt with coronavirus would change. your thoughts? >> my witness against that is donald trump himself. 15 separate times he said how much he trusted china and xi and what a fine and transparent job they are doing. if he believed in this lab theory, of course, he never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like, but if he actually believed in it, why was he praising china's transparency and honesty for months as people were dying in this country from covid-19? >> dr. ashby, give me the quick
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elevator pitch. somebody is hesitant to get the vaccine, but you believe they should get it. >> .05% severe reaction to the vaccine. so we had 150 million plus folks who have gotten the vaccine in the u.s. and .05% is the number. look at the mortality rate, look at the death rate, look at the amount of our elderly population. they are dying less. so outcomes matter and we have to get to the point and if your check out our website, we have great talking points you can use with your family. >> listen to dr. ashby. thank y'all very much. despite vaccine hesitancy all over the united states, recovery is actual ahead where president biden said it would be months ago. broadway is back, set for a september reopening with jimmy
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fallon, lin-manuel miranda and a star studded cast reminding us why the show must go on. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> that's the show. go watch chris hayes. >> tonight on "all in." >> it's against the law to discriminate on the base of race already. >> how the republican party is dusting off a 150-year-old playbook to keep american history buried and maintain power.
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