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the united kingdom meeting with prime minister boris johnson. the bond between our two countries is long, it is storied, it is special. now updated with a new atlantic charter to be signed affirming longstanding beliefs like defending democracy. but also adding new goals. like addressing the global pandemic. security is tight ahead of the summit. the show of diplomatic force has been big implications for president biden's high steaks -- stakes face-to-face meeting with putin. president biden will be direct, candid. security threats continue to be the focus of the hear on capitol hill. the fbi director testifying. the chairman called for an fbi internal review of white supremacy within its own ranks.
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we will take you back there in a moment. first, president biden's meeting with boris johnson. our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell traveling with the president in the united kingdom. i want to bring in bisa williams. former career diplomat. a senior fellow at the yale jackson institute for global affairs. miss mitchell, set the stage with what's happening on the ground in the uk and how today's meeting is just the first step in president biden's larger goal to strengthen our alliances abroad. >> reporter: this is, as you point out, the president's efforts to show that democracy beats totalitarianism, the rising right wing protectionist dictators around the world and
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in europe and russia. russia is the big issue coming up next week in geneva. first, restoring the importance of the special relationship with the uk. it's the first meeting with boris johnson. there was a bit of tension, of course, back during the campaign. there were times when boris johnson was very favorable towards donald trump. all of that is forgotten as they go into the first bilateral meeting today. on the agenda, establishing a working group towards re-establishing uk/u.s. travel post pandemic. you don't expect that's going to be announced during the meetings. that's to establish the process, because right now people from the uk cannot fly into the u.s. there are restrictions on those from the u.s. flying into the uk and quarantines. of course, working on the pandemic. we know that the president is going to be announcing this major covid delivery later today, shortly in a couple of hours, $500 million spend on
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doses to 100 of the lowest income countries. that's, of course, a big part of the g7 as well coming up. with boris johnson, the talks about trade, about the economy, yes, about the pandemic, about mutual problems with russia and the cyber hacking as well as russia's aggressions against the u.s. and uk and ukraine, what happened years back, they were sanctioned for the chemical poisoning of a former russian spy. of course, now, alsoright rights abuses. all that was front and center when he meets with boris johnson. then, of course, as you alluded to, the big meeting after the g7 which will focus on all of these issues in depth, covid, climate, energy, trade, then, of course,
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the meeting next week in geneva, the first chance by president biden -- he said it out when he landed here yesterday -- meeting with u.s. troops, set out that he will take a hard line with putin. he wants to tell putin what he needs to know from the u.s. and is clearly going to be drawing lines about russian aggression. at the same time, he wants to have a working relationship, a stable and predictable relationship with the russian leader. in recent months the first months of this white house, the only predictable thing about vladimir putin is that he really wants to be aggressive and challenge joe biden. craig? >> andrea mitchell there on the ground in the united kingdom. thank you. we will let you go. you have a show that comes on in a few minutes as well right here on msnbc, my neighbor. thank you. ambassador, let me turn to you.
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president biden, prime minister johnson signing that new atlantic charter emphasizing three new cs, cyber threats, climate change, coronavirus. these things, as you know very well, they can seem quite ceremonial at times. how important, how binding are public declarations like this? >> these declarations can be very important, particularly between the united states and the united kingdom. coronavirus, climate and working on -- i forgot the third c. coronavirus is the first major -- >> cyber. >> cyber. these are basically almost all near crises level. pandemic, certainly. the united states wants to be in the front, show we are leading again. the uk and united states need to show to all of its friends,
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particularly in africa, adrea mentioned the doses the u.s. will contribute. these are declarations on phenomenon beyond our borders, affecting everyone. cybersecurity now we have experienced and europe has been experiencing for a while, the fragility of our security systems. these have to show our own consumers, our citizens as well as those countries that rely on us that we can come up with solutions that will be effective for them. climate change, the world was disappointed when we left the agreement. they are expecting the united states to show up on its commitments on climate change and biden has said we will. this is another thing. these agreements have definite repercussions and impacts that people will be able to see.
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it's more than ceremonial. >> from what we have seen so far, both leaders appear to have a pretty easy going, at times joking rapport. i want to play a part of the video that prime minister boris johnson tweeted out wednesday. >> no doubt the g7 is going to be of huge value as we build back better, build back greener. >> build back better. sounds familiar. could that be viewed as an olive branch or just more politics? >> that or white house is going to sue for plagiarism. there is some history here that needs smoothing over. that's why you are seeing prime minister boris johnson extend that olive branch with these videos that we are seeing from their meeting today, looking as
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chummy as they can because, don't forget, not very long ago, joe biden called boris johnson the emotional and physical clone of donald trump. in the past, boris johnson suggested that donald trump could be deserving of the nobel peace prize. there's friction there. there's friction on ideology. joe biden is much more of a multilateralist. he is meeting organizations during this trip. boris johnson pulled, led the campaign to pull britain out of a multilateral body, the european union, when he led the brexit campaign. there's personal and political ideology that's separated the two men. the european -- the british diplomat said they are professionals. they will put that behind them. the relationship is too important. there are areas where they agree, like climate change. boris johnson is more in step with joe biden on climate change
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than he was with donald trump. distributing vaccine, more in step with joe biden than he would have been with donald trump. there are things the two can work on. i know people in the white house roll their eyes at this expression, the special relationship. it means so much more to brits than it does to americans. that's a reflection of the fact that we are a smaller country. we have in the last few years cut ourselves off from the european union. we would like to restore those ties with america. don't underestimate the degree to which people in britain and people in europe are really well versed in american domestic politics. they follow it very closely. they followed the rocky transition after the election. they followed the trump years. they have questions about whether the america that joe biden is projecting as he tours europe is the america that is here to stay or could we see another populist president in the ilk of donald trump who
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asserts america first and pulls america back from the world stage? people want to be reunited with america. they are a little bit skeptical about whether this america lasts as long as they would like it to. >> katty, president biden famously irish, very proud of his irish heritage. i understand that he has made some comments about the relationship with northern ierd ireland that has not sat well with some over the pond. what more can you tell us? >> one thing the brits with like from their relationship with the united states is a free trade agreement. having pulled out of the european union, we are looking for other free trade agreements. we would like a trade agreement with the united states. the white house has made it clear, capitol hill has made it
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clear that any trade agreement between the uk and the u.s. must not come in any form of the good friday agreement, that agreement that brought about peace in northern ireland is jeopardized. there are reasons about the border issues that have been affected by brexit. americans are worried that that could lead to a re-emergence of the troubles in northern ireland. nobody on capitol hill wants to see that. joe biden with his proud irish heritage doesn't want to see that either. they are making a point of warning boris johnson, don't do anything when it comes to negotiating your brexit deals that could lead to more strife in northern ireland. if you do that, remember that trade agreement you would like to have between the uk and u.s.? we have to think carefully about how that goes if there's a problem in northern ireland. >> president biden also has this big meeting coming up on this trip with russia's president,
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vladimir putin. the white house has been out in force with a pretty united message over the last few hours, ambassador. >> it's going to be candid. it's going to be direct. >> it's going to be candid. he will raise our issues of concern. >> it will be a direct conversation. our aim is to have a predictable, stable relationship. >> this is going to be a candid conversation. it's going to be a straightforward conversation. the president will raise areas where he has concern. he will be candid. what we want to do is get on a path to a more stable and predictable relationship. >> reportedly, the conversation is going to be candid. how do we get to a more stable relationship, a better understanding when russia continues to step up its adversarial role on the global stage, the cyber field, how do we get them to behave?
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>> one of the things that's important in this visit, i believe, in our previous administration, it was never clear what the united states was saying to russia or to putin. joe biden is going to be very clear. in his various areas on the issues of human rights, on the issues of expansionism, i do believe biden is going to set clear goals and some clear indications that the united states will respond. previously, i think putin got the impression -- actually saw -- that the united states' response was non-existence or weak when it came to transgressions on russia's part. i think this message, this foreshadowing by president biden's staff that he will be clear, candid, direct, means that president putin will hear what u.s. limits are, what u.s. values are, what our policies
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will be and that there will be repercussions, there will be a response from the united states on a range of issues. i don't think he has heard that kind of clear message over the last four years. >> ambassador, we will leave it there. katty kay, big thanks. thank you so much. we are going to keep a close eye on president biden's visit with prime minister johnson. we will bring you news out of cornwall this morning. back here, the fbi director testifying before the house. what the director is saying about the january 6th riot, including what he calls hundreds and hundreds of investigations into what happened. do they have anything to do with the former president trump and his post-election speeches? another big step in getting more americans vaccinated. moderna today filing to give its
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issue, as you might imagine, has dominated much of this hearing so far. the committee chairman jerry nadler blasted the fbi's performance during the riot. the director vowed the agency is doing all it can to track down all those who are involved that day. he also continued to sound the alarm on domestic extremism. this is part of what he said. >> the fbi does not and should not police ideology. we do not investigate groups or individuals based on the exercise of first amendment protected activity alone. but when we encounter violence and threats to public safety, the fbi will not hesitate to take appropriate action. that is not a controversial issue that should force anyone to take sides.
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>> nbc news national security correspond enter ken dilanian has been listening to the hearing. we are joined by frank fragluzi, he is an msnb national security contributor. ken, let me start with you. you noted the chairman's comments about the fbi inaction on january he called it baffling. why did that jump out to you? what else have you heard? >> reporter: that was as strong as a heard a democratic senior member of congress really go right at the fbi and criticize its inaction, its intelligence failure. that stood out. what stood out is that the fbi director didn't directly respond. he did say -- he did make news in saying that none of the 500 people they have charged so far in the insurrection had been under investigation by the fbi. the point he was trying to make is, it was hard to predict. these are people that weren't on
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our radar. he didn't respond to the criticism in the senate investigation that we have been reporting none recent days and the criticism made by the house members that, what about all the social media posts that we have seen online? they don't believe there was an intelligence failure. it seemed like he didn't want to say that. if he does believe it, he should say it. it's a complicated issue. it may be -- i know frank has strong opinions about this. it may be the fbi needs more authority. the nature of the hearings is that members don't follow-up on other questions. so he has been able to dodge the accountability of what exactly did the fbi know, when did they know it, why didn't they write a joint intelligence bulletin? what are they doing to improve their intelligence visibility on this problem that he identified as a huge and growing problem of domestic extremism, craig?
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>> frank, what do you make of what you have heard so far in this hearing? >> a few things. ken has touched on one of the larger issues. it's why these public oversight hearings tend to disappoint so many of us. they tend not to get into the serious questions and answers. for that, it's really, what change is necessary at the fbi in terms of rules of the road, in terms of collecting, gathering and disseminating information about threats so we can prevent the next act of domestic terrorism, whether it's another event at the capitol or somewhere else. i don't see how the head of the fbi can sit there and say truthfully that domestic terrorism is the number one threat, it's akin to the international threat, big statements without answering how we're going to prevent the next act of domestic terrorism.
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we are hearing that. we have heard from him. he has 500 pending cases. we did hear a very good question that he was asked, which is, are you going to be looking at those people in and around the president -- former president, maybe even sitting members of congress? are you getting up to that big level? he would not respond because -- i'm trying to read the tea leaves. he said very, very carefully, we have 500 pending cases. i have judges who would be very upset it i talked about the pending cases. it's not appropriate to tell you whether or not we have such high level cases. if i'm going to read the tea leaves, that sounds like the answer was, yes, we are looking at anybody and anything that looks like high level playing. >> frank, also, the comment that's gotten a lot of attention is chairman nadler saying it's high time the fbi conduct an internal review of white
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supremacists among its ranks, something he says department of homeland security and pentagon started. how necessary is that, frank? >> look, we are talking about our nation's premiere agency that we count on to keep us safe and prevent us from domestic terrorism. of course, they should not be exempt from what police departments are doing, dhs is doing, the u.s. military is doing. of course, we need them to be pristine. there should be a concerted effort probably coming out of the fbi's security division, the internal security function, to be looking at the social media postings, that kind of thing. particularly during regular background investigations that every fbi employee undergoes every five years. that's got to be an issue if we're going to have trust and credibility at fbi. >> i want to play an exchange between the fbi director and congressman gomer. take a listen. >> did the fbi have information
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about the violent threat that occurred on january 6 on january 5? >> well, the answer to that is complicated, unfortunately. we have -- we have talked about this morning -- >> it shouldn't be complicated. you either had information or you didn't. that was my question. >> there's different kinds of information. >> what makes that answer complicated, frank? >> here we are getting into the whole legal realm of what the attorney general guidelines for the fbi permit in terms of collection, even in open source. you have heard many people say they were sitting in their recliners at home for weeks watching planning talk of violence playing out. what we need to get to is what the fbi can and can't do with such public information and whether it would take thousands of more fbi employees to literally scour the internet for
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such postings. that's the real issue here. that means there is different kinds of information. there's information that you can legally see and act upon. there's information that sounds like somebody is going to commit violence but they have no history. there's things to work through. i will note that the congressman proceeded that question with a question that still is into this myth that people were dressed up like maga supporters and trump support supporters, but they were something else. he asked, wasn't this all people dressed up like trump supporters? what are you going to do with that? he said, we didn't see that. >> yeah. that's why we didn't play that clip deliberately. we saw that question, too. ken, if you were in that hearing, if you were not our national security and intelligence reporter, if you were a congressman, what would you be asking? >> reporter: i think, i would
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ask director wray, if we had seen al qaeda sympathizers about arresting members of congress, bringing maps, would the fbi act on that? explain that. explain to the public whether he needs more authority to, as frank said, prevent the next domestic terrorism attack. >> great conversation, gentlemen. ken, thanks, as always. frank, thank you as well. this morning, there's new fallout from this week's senate report on the deadly january 6 insurrection. it could mean another shakeup for capitol police leadership. the union now calling on its acting chief to step down. garrett haake following the new
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fallout. this is coming after that 93-page report noting capitol police leaders were warned that trump supporters were talking about how to infiltrate the capitol. leadership failed to act on those threats. what are we hearing from the union? what are we hearing from police leadership? >> reporter: the union statement is damning of the current leadership and the leadership in place on january 6th. it's particularly focused on the acting chief who was at the time of the insurrection attempt the head of the intelligence unit for the department. the person really in the crosshairs would would have had the information and been responsible for disseminating it to the front line officers and folks who were trying to lead them on january 6. the department or the leadership of the department have not yet commented on the union's statement here. it should be pointed out that pitman lost a no confidence vote of officers earlier in the year. she's in an acting capacity.
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her deputy is in an acting capacity. there is a national search underway for the next chief of the capitol police. i think it's fairly certain that person will not be the acting chief. >> garrett haake from capitol hill, thank you. we are following more breaking news on this thursday. in the last hour, the wife of joaquin guzman, pled guilty to helping her husband run one of the most powerful drug cartels in the world. appearing virtually in court. she's accused of helping her husband's cartel import tons of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines and marijuana into the united states. he is serving the life sentence at a super max prison in colorado. he is there because he was extradited to the united states after twice escaping from mexican prisons. we continue to keep an eye
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news on the vaccine front this morning.
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it has major implications for our children. moderna filed for emergency use authorization for their covid vaccine between the ages of 12 and 17. this would dramatically expand the number of shots available to middle and high school students ahead of the next school year. it comes as the fda is meeting at this very moment to decide exactly what information companies need to provide for full fda approval of their vaccines in kids. i want to bring in medical correspondent dr. john torres for more. let's start with the moderna news. how big of a deal would it be to have another potentially approved shot for kids between 12 and 17? >> it's like you said, it would greatly expand the amount of vaccines available right now. it looks like this could be happening hopefully over the next month or so. if you look at pfizer, they
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applied april 9th. got notified on may 10th. it took around a month. they are applying on june 10th. more than likely, early july. you have to remember, children are going to need two shots a month apart. they get the first the second or third week of july. the next one second or third week of august. they have to wait two weeks to be fully vaccinated. the goal is to get the supply so they can be vaccinated by the time they go back to school in the fall. around 7 million children in the 12 to 17 age group have ended up getting vaccines. 3 million are fully vaccinated out of 25 million kids in the age group. it's important we get more vaccine out there, it's more available. this is going to help do that. >> i'm glad you made that point about the two-week gap and what that could mean in terms of the time line. this information that i was talking about, what exactly is the fda doing in this meeting on full approval for vaccine in kids and this information that
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they are providing, how could it help our nation's kids get vaccinated against covid? >> what they do when they have these meetings is they sit down with experts and say, what do we need to get full approval? they have emergency authorization right now. but they need full approval. that allows them to get more access to the vaccine. the vaccine can go to doctor's offices, be more widely available. in some cases it can be mandated, especially colleges, military. what they say is a couple things. for the eua, we need two months of data. for full approval, we want six months of data after the vaccine. we will track it, get more information from the company. then we will sit down and do this very detailed, go over all the information. once it gets full approval, that's a permanent approval. that's not in the middle of a pandemic kind of authorization. it's going to be more widely available, easily to get and
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distribute. this is going to be a big step moving forward. they will look at side effects. very rare, but they want to keep an eye on it. look at other side effects, making sure the vaccines stay safe and stay as effective as we know it to be. >> while i have you, i want to switch gears. this is big news a few days ago. the newly fda approved drug to treat alzheimer's. we talked about this earlier this week. "the washington post" is now reporting that two members of an fda advisory committee quit after that drug was proved on monday. they report the approval, quote, set off a firestorm because critics say there is scant evidence the drug is effective. i know we talked about the effectiveness of the drug earlier and the controversy surrounding its approval. why did the fda approve it?
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what does it mean for the agency's authority moving forward? >> craig, that's the big question. when these two resigned, this was two out of 11 members on their expert panel who is giving them advice on whether they should move forward with this. on this panel of the 11 members, ten said no. one kind of withheld their vote and said they don't see anything. but they don't want to vote either way. of those, two resigned because they said the fda didn't listen to us. the fda went ahead and they approved this on an accelerated approval. that's where these experts are having an issue, because they say it doesn't look like it helps with anything other than clearing out the plaque. we're not sure what that means. moving forward with this drug, it's interesting to see what happens with it. it's controversial. it's slightly expensive. we don't even know if it really works. >> you said slightly expensive.
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it's $56,000 a year, right? i think. >> it is $56,000 a year. hopefully, insurance paid for it. that's what the company is hoping on and fda. we will see. >> always good to have you. thank you so much for your insight. not enough focus on climate change. letting corporations off easy. wasting time playing, quote, patty cake with republicans. those are some of the complaints that democrats have over president biden's negotiations for that infrastructure deal. we will take a look at what that means for getting a bipartisan agreement or any agreement at all. first, you may have missed it unless you were up early, the first solar eclipse of the year. the moon passing between the sun and the earth for a few minutes blocking out the sun's light. this type of eclipse, it's known as a ring of fire because it doesn't fully block out the sun.
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right now, infrastructure talks are not exactly building bridges. president biden leaning open a bipartisan group of senators to try and reach a new deal. the president faces new frustration and pressure from members of his own party now. leigh ann caldwell is at her post on capitol hill. the president has emphasized bipartisanship time and time again. now it seems like it could be the members of his own party that are hurting this negotiation. how is this new pressure shaping the work that the bipartisan group of senators is trying to do? >> reporter: that's right, craig. there's members not only from the progressive left, like
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representative alexandria ocasio-cortez but also others who are calling on the president to let go of talks and for democrats to go it alone. they don't think a bipartisan agreement is comprehensive enough. there's talk among members saying if you bring in republicans, you are going to lose democrats. it's going to be very difficult to get the number of votes necessary, 60, to agree on a bipartisan package. the reality also is, craig, that they don't -- democrats don't have the votes right now to do a partisan package either. they are in a very difficult place. the bipartisan talks are actually buying them time to get their ducks in order. there's another issue that is related to this that also doesn't have the support of enough democratic senators. that is the filibuster. they can't go it alone yet outside of the reconciliation
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process. i spoke with senator shaheen of new hampshire. this is where she stands on the filibuster. >> i think we need to reform the filibuster. that's been my position since i got here. i think we ought to try and do that. >> lowering it to 51 votes? >> that's getting rid of the filibuster. i'm talking about reforming it. >> reporter: there are all of these issues that are just melding together. democrats do not have a clear path forward on many of them, craig. >> leigh ann caldwell on the hill with a familiar story line. thank you. we talked about the politics around the southern border. but what are local officials saying? why law enforcement officers in texas say that most migrants don't actually pose a security threat. other issues could be slipping through the cracks. [sizzling]
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and rio grand valley, she had a chance to join border patrol agents to hear directly from them on the challenges they are facing. this is not a perspective we get often. what did they tell you? >> we had rare access. we spent three days with border agents in the rio grand valley who are complaining about the fact they have to tie up 30 to 40% of their manpower just to process that record number of migrants. but also we talked to local chiefs of the cities in the rio grand valley, mission, brownsville, mcallen, and they said because the border agents are tied up, they said their jobs have gotten busier. let's take a look. >> we have seen a steady increase. >> as a border patrol agent, jesse is on the front line. we tagged along with him
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recently for an exclusive look at how border patrol is handling a record 20-year high of migration across the southern border. >> i hear your radio going off every minute. does the border patrol have the ability to respond to that many people all at once? >> we do the best we can. >> in the rio grand valley there has been more activity than in the last ten years and that's only the recorded numbers. border patrol estimates around 20,000 migrants have crossed the border undetected. the border patrol chief said that's extremely concerning. >> this sector hasn't seen those type of numbers. that pulls about 40% of my manpower away from security just to address this. we have seen increases in
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fentanyl. >> is this more of a security problem or national security problem? >> we need to know who and what is coming across our borders. when i have to pull 40% of my manpower from that mission, we have gaps. >> from rescuing more and more migrants to uncovering stash houses where migrants and drugs are kept, the local police chiefs said it had had an effect locally as well. >> a lot of the federal resources have had to repurpose their day-to-day. they spend a lot of time processing these families. >> the chief said focusing only on the surge in migrants misses the point. >> perception is that we have to immigrants crossing over and they are invading our cities and neighborhoods. that is not the case. >> the family units and
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unaccompanied children pose no security threat for us. what it does is ties up the hands of our federal partners. >> their message, what crosses the border doesn't stop at the border. >> those people and those drugs are going to your city. they are landing here, crossing here, but they are going to houston, dallas, chicago, new york. that's where these folks are going. >> so you can see, craig, it's not that this is just a border issue that stays at the border. the people who come through, end up throughout the united states as they might come through for asylum hearings and it is not the people posing the problem here, it's the drugs that might come through, things that might slip through the cracks while federal agents are distracted. that's what the local chiefs are worried about and that was their message to us. >> resources. julia, thank you for that look.
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