strength is supported by ours. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. >> if it's thursday, president biden is set to speak from the uk at any moment about the pandemic and his administration's global vaccine strategy as vaccinations lag here at home and new variants spread abroad. plus the fbi director christopher wray testifies on capitol hill for the first time since the failed vote to join a january 6th commission as well as those ransomware attacks against our gas and food supplies. now lawmakers are dodging hopes as aspirational aswrenda is caught between a divide of pragmatists.

the man who knows a thing or two about that joins me as well. welcome to thursday. it is ""meet the press" daily" and i'm chuck todd. the president is expected to speak from the uk this hour about sending vaccines to the international community to try to stop this pandemic. we'll bring you those remarks when they begin. we'll begin with the fbi director christopher wray, testifying before congress for the first time today since a bipartisan senate report faulted the justice department for a series of procedure failures. we've seen lawmakers knock wray on the issues leading up to the attack. >> it's hard to tell whether fbi headquarters merely missed the evidence, which had been flagged by your field offices and was available online for all the world to see, or whether the

bureau saw the intelligence, underestimated the threat and failed to attack. neither is acceptable. >> in the weeks leading up to january 6th is simply baffling. >> did the fbi have information about the violent threat that occurred on january 6th on january 5th? >> you either had information or you didn't. that's my question. >> now for the capitol police on sunday, they had information that said yes, it was going to be violent. you, and the fbi did not make the case. you should have warned and had a duty to do that. >> urgency. that's clearly what members of congress thought was missing. wray's agencies, violence was raw, it was disseminated in

multiple ways to the capitol police. as far as the investigation into the insurrection, fbi director noted hundreds of cases spawned from the siege but on the question of whether the fbi is investigating all the way to the top, here is what he had to say about that.efer to as contributing to the violence of the insurrectionists on january 6th? >> i'm not sure there's a whole lot i can add on that subject. if there's something i can follow up i would be happy to. >> i asked if you referred these actions or other -- you're the investigative agency, to the department of justice. donald trump's actions, words, deeds on that day. >> i'm not aware of any investigation that specifically goes to that. >> we've got a lot to dissect, from wray's testimony as he has been grilled on everything from january 6th to the cyber attacks, extremism and, of course, ransom wear.

our own justice correspondent pete williams, fbi general counsel and suzanne spalding, adviser for strategic and international studies and former at the department of homeland security. that's a lot of titles there. we got everybody. i want to start with pete williams. this is your beat. christopher wray. you know sort of how he works. they knew this was going to be one of those, i guess you could say, very thorough committee hearing. a lot on the agenda. what have you learned the most, pete, from christopher wray's testimony? >> well, i learned that he overtly said they're not investigating the president for any role in the riot. that's the guidance we had sort of gotten from the justice department. no one has said it publicly, though. it wasn't surprising but it was something he learned. there are close to 500 cases. that squares with our own count

of various charges and he says there will be many more. and on the specific question of the fbi's warning, i'm not sure that this committee made a lot of progress in getting the answer. the fact is that there was this single piece that the norfolk fbi office passed along about an anonymous posting on a website that suggested violent attacks on the capitol. that's what wray said was passed along. there's a couple of things about that. one you heard ted deutsch there briefly saying what did you do to follow up on it? he said well we passed it along. now i think the fbi has previously said they did try to figure out where that posting came from and were not able to verify the source of it. the other thing he said is that of the thousands of counterterrorism investigations that the fbi is doing, domestic terrorism investigations, virtually none of those people that were under investigation were among those who came to the capital on january 6th.

and one other thing i would say, chuck, this didn't come up in the hearing today but if you look at all these court documents, 500 or so court documents that have been filed, in which agents can now look at things that weren't available before the 6th, actual communications among the people that were coming, there's lots of talk about coming to washington to raise hell. lots of talk about beating up antifa in the street. precious little about aactually entering the capitol. it remains a big question in this investigation of exactly whose idea was it to enter the capitol. was it something that just sort of organically happened on the 6th or was there somebody that had that plan that communicated it? i think we still don't know the answer to that. >> fair point. i want to play one of christopher wray's responses on the intelligence that they found on january 5th because it was a bipartisan set of questions that went after him on this.

let me let him say it in his own words. here is he. >> the norfolk report that you referenced was a specific piece of raw, unverified intelligence that emerged on january 5th, the day before, from a source online, unvetted, and despite the raw nature of it, it was quickly passed, not one, not two, but three different ways to the capitol police. one, an email to their representatives on our joint terrorism task force. two, in a verbal briefing in our command post that included members of the capitol police, mpd, et cetera and third in our law enforcement portal. >> so, he clearly knew that there was going to be a lot of questions about this. it came after the report from the senate rules committee, one of the few bipartisan reports on the intelligence failings at the beginning, but i guess the question is, there seems to be a

lot of -- is the capitol police supposed to be an tenls agency intelligence agency with the capabilities of the fbi? >> one of the through-lines of this hearing was how much information both the fbi and the capitol police had. jerry nadler, chairman of the judicial committee said it was baffling that the fbi didn't do more, given that a lot of this was planned right out in the opening, on social media and pro-trump forums. there are people talking about bringing guns, maps of the capitol floating around. one with of the questions was did the fbi and the capitol police have a sense this was possible but simply not believe that right-wing extremists in this country were capable of storming the capitol? that's one of the major forces behind the new kind of democratic focus on investigating domestic extremism. and, chuck, we also saw some semblance of the politics around this issue at the hearing when

you saw republicans like tom mcclintock change the topic, louis gomer trying to change the subject to black lives matter. we've seen how this issue has become polarized in the way that two parties talk about it. it's remarkable given that they were all together here in this building while it was being stormed. >> you brought up mcclintock. wait until folks see it. he is totally misinterpreting the legal jeopardy and the criminal potential jeopardy that rudy giuliani is in. i want to preface that. here are his remarks from tom mcclintock. >> how many persons with criminal records or criminal warrants have been encountered crossing our southern border? >> again, i don't have those specific figures but our field office down there, both of which i visited work very closely on this issue, and i agree with you it's a significant security concern. >> well, would you think it's a more dangerous threat to our nation's security than, say,

whether rudy giuliani filed the right paperwork for his lobbying firm? >> i really can't discuss any specific individuals. >> at least give us -- >> i'm guessing that little chuckle by christopher wray probably didn't play well with some democrats. >> that's correct, chuck. i think that's one of the frustrations here on the democratic side, is that they want to keep the focus on this and a lot of the republican colleagues want to steer the focus off of this. they're trying not to use the word insurrection as much even as figures like mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader in the early days following the attack on the capitol did absolutely use that word. the needle has moved quite significantly on that one side of it. and the other thing, chuck, i'll point out, one thing christopher wray said in not confirming or denying the existence of the investigation into the former president's rhetoric is

something that democrats will say undercuts the republican argument against an independent commission. the fact that they believe that needs to be investigated. the former president's actions, those of people around him need to be looked at. the inability to investigation into that. >> thank you. let me bring in andrew weissman, suzanne spalding. i'll ask you to do two different things here. andrew weissman, let me build on what sahil was just talking about. we heard from mch milk connell, liz cheney to plenty of others who came out against the commission said what the president did and his alcohols should be fully investigated. i don't know how you interpreted christopher wray's remarks. it sounded to me as if the president is not yet under investigation.

that is not how things typically go. investigation is not far enough along to ask for a prosecutor. i'm not sure he crystallized that. but i think his overall this doesn't answer any of the questions that the american public has the right to understand and know. and i actually found this hearing so far to be quite disspiriting. the fbi director works for us, the public. >> right. >> and needs to be a lot more forthcoming about the

intelligence and what they knew and what they did with that intelligence. >> and it does seem to follow a pattern where it does seem as if only until recently it does seem as if law enforcement is not taking this threat from right wing domestic extremism seriously until now, until post-january 6th. and that seems to come through in this testimony. >> there are special penalties if you are motivated by white supremacy, if you are doing something based on race. those -- that is actually part of what you're supposed to look at. so you really did not get the

sense that he understood and would take things, what happened here seriously when it's such a dramatic failure, not just by the fbi, to be fair, but this really is something where we're owed a much more thorough why w thorough position. >> it's our standpoint that companies should not pay a ransom. whether they pay or not, we need to make sure that the companies

or other victims reach out and coordinate with the fbi and our partners as quickly and promptly as possible. when they do that enables the creative action that we can't always do but certain cases we can. >> how do you think he handled this? do you feel like we got everything we should be doing? >> well, i don't think we ever get everything that should be known when it comes to cyber security. you know, the director in a different context, and i think he was questioned about it at today's hearing, made a reference to 9/11 in the context of comparison with the ransomware. he clarified today he wasn't obviously talking about the scale and scope of the loss of

life on that day but rather about the way in which it mobilized government and society to recognize the need to respond, to come together to respond on an urgent basis. one other thing 9/11 did was the way we think about classification, moving from does a person have a need to know this information to a presumption that we need to share it. and that needs to happen in cyber. there's too much secrecy associated to the government's activities in cyber. >> let me ask you this. he was stressing, begging companies to contact the fbi after this has happened. at this point, what can we do before? i mean, ww well protected they . that seems to be something that's missing definitely need, particularly those that are

involved in critical functions and in enabling critical functions for our nation, they really should, as the government has recently asked them to do, have a senior official who is the point of contact for working with the government, starting now, not when you have an attack. but, you know, the other thing we need to recognize is that if you -- even after you've been victimized, if you share that information with the government, they can use that information to protect future victims. and we have seen the bureau increasingly have success with this, with taking down other hackers for higher, criminal networks that brought about international coordination to take down a massive criminal network that would have had many, many more victims that had the information up and shared with the government and shared that with its international partners and come together to take that down. they've also used their ability to track this crypto currency to identify individuals and arrest

those individuals. those are the things that need to happen to prevent this activity, to deter it. >> suzanne spaulding, andrew weissman, appreciate both of you. before i let you go, andrew, i wanted to get your reaction to the mcghan testimony. i assume he confirmed everything that was in your report. i was just curious what your take was. >> well, our team did that work. absolutely. and it belies the attack, that this was a witch hunt and these were just a bunch of democrats because you had don mcgahn saying everything about him was accurate. i thought that his reference to being concerned about lying to the press and going back on his testimony to the special counsel was interesting because it shows that the so-called process

crimes of charging people with making false statements to the fbi had the determent that it was intended to have, which don mcgahn looked that the and said i'm not going to lie. >> that's the thing. are there going to continue to be more don mcgahns that serve next time there's a president trump or not? andrew weissman, suzanne spaulding, thank you both. coming up, we are expecting president biden to speak any minute now on the coronavirus pandemicic and his administration's plan to try to help vaccinate some of the poorest countries in this world. we'll bring remarks to you live as soon as that happens. >> first, we got an update from capitol hill. latest round of infrastructure talks are making some progress. a republican senator says they've reached a general agreement on a package. senator jon tester is part of the new round of talks and will join me next. of talks and will join me next

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group of senators have taken the baton in search of an infrastructure deal according to my colleague, garrett haake, saying that the group has reached something of what they're calling an ai general agreement. i have a member of this bipartisan group with me right now, senator jon tester. senator tester, we've heard from collins, from romney, two of our reporters. what? are you as close as they are saying you are? >> look, chuck, i think we're very, very close. and i think generally agreement is the right way to put it. i think there are still some outliers that haven't been agreed upon totally. but we're very, very close. and i'm hopeful that we can get something nailed down, hopefully by the end of the day if not next week. >> you took some form of taxes off the table. can you give us a hint as to

what ideas are in it? >> part of what i'm concerned about is that maybe what we're pronging on the up ins, on the pay fors, because they're not taxes. they're fees. they're funds. they're different vasts or pots of money that we can draw out of. and, chuck, i would love to tell you each and every one of them. it's kind of washington stuff, quite frankly. but in the end, i don't want this to be smoke and mirrors. i want this to be real dollars because it's going to be real spending on infrastructure. >> are we looking at real money? one of the big disagreements between biden's ask and what the republican leadership had responded with, i mean, you know, 800 billion wasn't really

800 billion. it was more to 2 to 300 million in new spending to a billion in new spipding. we sit here and talk about these numbers as if they're pennies and dimes. are we looking at something that a real trillion dollars or pretty close? >> it depends on how to want to measure it. it is real money above the baseline. and it depends on how many dollars of baseline money you want to put into it for how many years. but you're in the ballpark. i think we're looking at a very significant infrastructure package over five or eight years, however you want to pencil it out, whether it's five or eight. in the end, though, i would say this, chuck, real quick. you know this. you know this very, very well. china is a threat to this country. they spent a lot of money on infrastructure the last 20 years. we have not. if we're going to compete with china, we need a significant

infrastructure bill passed. maybe more than one. >> there's some senate democrats not in this working group with you that are starting to get concerned that climate spending is not going to be part of this deal, that it is getting short stripped here. how would you respond to that criticism? >> well, i will tell you that i'll let them make their assessment after the agreement is put out. but the beauty will be in the eyes of the beholder. and i can tell you, there are things in this package that i would like to see different. and i'm sure there are things am this package that shelldon white house would like to see. folks will then have to make up their own mind whether it's the right thing to vote for. >> there seems to be a debate within the democratic party that says, hey, why talk with the other side? it's only going to a watered down version.

you can't get the big stuff that they want to do. do you have the votes for that? you're only as strong as your 50th senator, right? >> that's exactly right, chuck. and that is exactly right. we've got to have the votes, even for reconciliation. even if you do away with the filibuster. i have always said and do believe this. bipartisan lenlsilation. we have things to do. infrastructure is one of those things. your last segment was on the commission in part. >> yeah. >> and the commission is important, too. so we need to get some things done around here for the american people. the american people that have said why negotiate, they make a point. in the end you have to negotiate in good faith and try to get to

the point where you can get both sides together. if you can't, we'll have to do something different. >> do you feel good about these ten republicans, that they're going to keep their vote, that if this disagreement is what it comes to, that they're going to be there through thick and thin. ♪ pressure they're going to be under. this is such a polarizing environment. some of them know how to withstand pressure, some, we'll find out. you feel pretty good about this? >> chuck, i think we need more than ten republicans. i think the republicans will tell you we need more than ten republicans and the group i'm working in, and it's only five republicans, are solid people, and i think they'll be with us in the end attachment's up to those guys to get the rest. it's up to folks like me to try to keep the democratic caucus together. it's a tough challenge on both sides of the aisle. >> senator jon tester, i've got to move president biden. plain spoken, no fanciness.

thanks for coming on. >> thank you. >> 100 birthday. there are a lot of people feeling his absence today. >> in addition, the greeting from the uk has been exemplary. prime minister johnson and i had a great meeting, discussed the broad issues on which the united kingdom and united states are working in very close cooperation. we affirmed the special relationship, as it is not said lately, special relationship between our people and renewed the commitment that our countries share that is a strong foundation of our partnership. 80 years ago prime minister winston churchill, president franklin roosevelt signed an agreement known as the atlantic charter.

it was a statement of first principles. a promise that the united kingdom and united states would meet their challenges and meet it together. we built on that commitment, updated to reaffirm that promise while speaking directly to the key challenges of this century. cyber security, emerging technologies, global health and climate change. the climate leaders summit that i hosted in april was in part about helping drive forward the momentum toward the critical cop 26 that the uk will host in glasgow later this year. we talked about the shared sacrifices our service members have made, bravely serving side by side in afghanistan for close to 20 years. the uk was with us from the

start, as they always are, equally committed to rooting out the terrorist threat. now we're coordinating a withdrawal together. we talked about how our two nations can, together, lead the global fight against covid-19. tonight i'm making an historic announcement regarding america's leadership in the fight against covid-19. america knows firsthand the tragedies of this pandemic we've had more people die in the united states than anywhere in the world. nearly 600,000, more deaths from covid-19 in the united states

than world war i, world war ii, vietnam war and 9/11 combined. combined. we know the tragedy. we also know the path to recovery. united states has vaccinated 64% of our adults with at least one shot. just 4 1/2 months ago we were at only 5% with one shot. it took a herculean effort, by the on decades of research to develop a vaccine. it took the full capacity of american companies, manufacturing and delivering the vaccinesck our

vaccination program has saved tens of thousands of lives w that count growing each day has allowed millions of americans to get back to living their lives. from the beginning of my presidenty, we have been clear-eyed that we need to attack this virus globally as well. this is about our responsibility, our humanitarian obligation to save as many lives as we can. and our responsibility to our values. we value dignity of all people in times of trouble, americans reach out to offer help and offer a helping hand. that's who we are. under republican and democratic

presidents, the united states has made transformative commitments to bolster global health. and in this moment we must do everything we can to vaccinate the world against covid-19. it's also in america's self interest. as long as the virus rages elsewhere, there's a risk of new mutations that could threaten our people. raging covid-19 in other countries holds back global growth. the key to reopen economies to vaccinate jobs created

just in the last four months since i've bp become president. a projected economic growth of 9. -- excuse me, 6.9%, the fastest and in nearly four decades in america. as i said in my address, america will be the arsenal of vaccines in our fight against covid-19 just as america was the arsenal

of democracy. over the past four months, we've taken a number of steps toward this historic effort. support manufacturing efforts from abroad in japan, india and australia known as the quad. we've shared doses with our neighbors, canada and mexico and in addition three weeks ago with america's vaccine supply secured and with confidence we have enough vaccines to cover every american who wants one, we announced we would donate 80 million doses of our own vaccine in house now many of these doses are shipped around the country as we speak.

today we're taking a major step that will super charge the global fight against this pandemic. the united states will purchase an additional half billion doses from pfizer. half a billion doses of pfizer's covid-19 vaccine to donate to 1 100 nations in dire need in the fight against this pandemic. importantly this is the mrna

vaccine that's proven very effective. they will start to be shipped in august. 200 million of these doses will be deliver this had year, 2021. let me be clear, the united states is providing these half million doses with no strings attached. let me say it again. with no strings attached. our vaccine donations don't include pressure for favors or potential concessions. we're doing this to save lives, to end this pandemic. that's it. period. we've got ep to know each other the last few months. he and i, his entire team have

really -- he has really stepped up this critical stage in our fight against the pandemic. and the plan is for half a million doses that will be sending around the world to be produced in the united states included in pfizer's manufacturing plant in kalamazoo, michigan. 80 years ago in the detroit area, american workers built tanks and planes and vehicles that helped defeat the global threat of fashionism in world war ii. they built what became known as the arsenal of democracy. now a new generation of america's men and women will build a new arsenal to defeat the current enemy of world peace, health instability, covid-19. albert was gracious enough to welcome me to the kalamazoo

plant in february. it's incredible, the ingenuity, the care, the safety that goes into every single dose as i toured the entire plant. most of all, when you're there, you feel the pride that every worker there feels, how the pride they feel in what they're doing. i have been to a lot of plants. i've worked, i'm a big union guy. i've been doing it my whole career. you can see the looks on their faces. they were proud. i mean this sincerely. they were proud of what they were doing. they knew what they were doing. american workers will now produce vaccines to save lives of people in africa, asia, latin america and the caribbean. places they've never visited and probably never have an opportunity to, but lives saved all the same thanks to american leadership, american workers. hard work and values.

let me close with this. this is a monumental commitment by the american people. as i said, we're a nation full of people who step up in times of need to help our fellow human beings, both at home and abroad. we're not perfect, but we step up. we're not alone in this endeavor. that's the point i want to make. we're going to help lead the world out of this pandemic, working alongside our global partners. under the uk chairmanship of the g7, democracies of the world are posed to deliver as well. this u.s. contribution is the foundation for additional efforts to help vaccinate the world. british government, prime minister, has led a strong campaign to get people vaccinated across the uk. i'm grateful they're making their own generous donation. tomorrow, the g7 nations will be

announcing the full scope of our commitment, our meeting, the g7. i want to thank all of my g7 partners for stepping up to recognize our responsibility to meet the moment. i'm looking forward to working with my counterparts in the coming days and much more. one final point i want to make clear, this is not the end of our efforts to fight covid-19 and vaccinate the world. we have to turn manufacturing doses into shots and arms to protect people and communities. that's why the united states has already provided hundreds of millions in funding to support last-minute vaccination efforts including funding from congress and working with programs in latin america, asia and africa, we're going to keep manufacturing doses getting

jabs, as they say here in the uk, in arms. i would like to turn it over to my friend and ceo of pfizer, albert. it's all yours. again, personally, thank you for stepping up. >> thank you, mr. pre. thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. president. it is, of course, a great honor to be here with you today for this historic announcement. as the g7 countries come together for this critical summit, the eyes on the world are on the leaders of this powerful nations to help solve the ongoing covid-19 crisis. while great progress has been made in many developed nations, the world is now asking the g7 leaders to shoulder the responsibility to help vaccinate people in all countries.

every man, woman on the planet regardless of race, religion or geography deserve access to life-saving covid-19 vaccines and once again, the united states has answered the call and we're grateful to you and your leadership on this front. today we are providing 500 million doses of the pfizer-biontech vaccine to the world's poorest nations. these would significantly enhance our ability to meet our goal of providing 2 billion doses of the vaccine to lower and middle-income countries over the next 18 months. thanks to the ingenuity of so many scientists and determination of so many vaccine workers today we can see clearly the light at the end of the

tunnel but we still have work to do and i can assure you, mr. president, that we will be relentless in pursuing more solutions to end the pandemic. just this week we began vaccinating 12 to 18-year-olds. we are also closely monitoring and addressing the emerging variants. we are testing our vaccine's response to newly arising variants and public health authority around the world in our efforts. so far none of the existing variant strains has escaped the protection provided by our vaccine i repeat not one. still we have developed a process to develop a new vaccine within 100 days if needed, god

forbid. our scientists, indications are processing and if things go well we could apply for approval before the end of this year. i wanted to finish my coming back to the importance of your announcement today, mr. president. in a pandemic, everyone is only as protected as their neighbor. and our ability to save even more lives across the globe. mr. president, i want to thank you for your leadership, vision and partnership. we look forward to continuing to work with your administration to ensure that science wins the battle against covid-19.

thank you. >> mr. president, do you believe meeting with putin can change his behavior in a way that sanctions have not? >> mr. president, did you warn prime minister johnson that a trade deal -- [ inaudible ] >> well, i was giving him a little bit of a chance. as you know, the president does seem to get lured into answering a shouted question now and then. let me bring in richard hass and dr. patel. andrea, the demand for the united states to do more globally has been there about 60 days i would argue.

they've been very reticent. i had tony blinken on this show. they were clearly concerned about not having enough vaccine. there was still some concern that we were a little bit late with this big move, which, of course, obviously better late than never. >> absolutely. as you point out, they have been cautious. they have been concerned. they've been under criticism that they've not done more. they did the 80 million doses. this is big. for this president to come here to the g7 in cornwall and say we are the leader of the world, they did need to do more. there's even criticism today, talking vin gupta, who you know so well. the problem, from his perspective, is that we need to do a billion doses not 500 million and the world needs to do more and covax, the agency that's going to distribute this,

to which the u.s. is contributing it, distributes so that every country or the countries that are needy get 20% of their people vaccinated rather than the countries where covid is surging. so there's going to be some argument about that. the administration says that this will be well done. as you heard the president say, no politics involved, no favor. that's a shot to china and, to an extent, russia, involved in vaccine diplomacy. that's what he's talking about here today. and doing it as the summit is about to convene tomorrow. this is obviously a big calling card. >> no doubt. the no strings attach shot was a clear shot. both china and russia, china trying to do -- strong arm some countries and taiwan policy even in exchange for a vaccine that isn't actually that good.

this is an important moment for the united states and biden. covid is an opportunity if we are able to vaccinate the world. >> exactly right, chuck. what he has done with covid domestically in many and since -- the less we try to get credit for it, the more credit we actually get. this is on a mass scale like coming in after a hurricane or after an earthquake. it really is a good thing. that said, andrea also raised the point, pfizer is a two-dose vaccine. there are 8 billion people in the world. so 5 million, as sizeable as it is, covers 200 million people. it just gives you the enormity of the task. we still need others to step up

and we still need greater production if we're going to break the back of this throughout the world. >> richard, i want to bring up, the g-7 countries are all not well vaccinated. this is an awkward moment here, isn't it, in this meeting where you have the uk and the united states sort of the outlyers. everybody else still getting the vaccine has had some issues. this hasn't been a great moment collectively for the g-7 when it comes to vaccinations. >> the eu dropped the ball, and what asian countries learned the hard way, they thought they had broken the back of covid. what they found out was all the social distancing, the masking, quarantining, contact tracing only took you so far. then because of travel and the like, still the virus got in and had real effect. the vaccines are essential. that is the lesson of the last couple of weeks. and yes, another subject that you talk about so much, we could

say immigration. if we are going to allow other countries to get, otherwise peoe going to head toward the united states. that's where the jobs are. the scale of this that still remains is wide. >> dr. patel, the pfizer vaccine is not the most efficient vaccine, right, the two-dose? i have to ask, i mean, in a perfect world, had the johnson & johnson vaccine not had so many bad pr moments, i mean, wouldn't that have been the better global vaccine? i think that was what the world was counting on. you know, we sort of have now forgotten about it, but this two-dose vaccine, it's harder to get circulated around the world, isn't it? >> absolutely, chuck. the good news is that even one of the two shots confirms an incredible amount of effectiveness. i don't think this is the last

we'll see from the biden administration kind of doubling down on being part of a global solution. covax, which is going to help kind of lead all these efforts with the g-7 countries, chuck, they've only given out 100 million doses to date. 500 million takes them from pauper to riches. but you're right, a one-shot would have been preferable. you're not going to vaccinate the whole world with even 500 million doses if you're splitting that in half. this speaks, by the way, to the confidence we have in pfizer's capacity which i'm stunned by and pleased to see and hope other countries can benefit by it. >> in some ways have we just decided, sorry. is the pfizer and moderna just

known as better vaccines and you wouldn't be able to sell the world on the other two vaccines? >> i do think while the attention today is on pfizer, and again, kind of stunning manufacturing ability, the other manufacturers, and even the ones we don't talk about, novavax and others, they do play a very important rule as johnson & johnson and all the others. to your point, though, chuck, the mrna vaccines are holding up against the variants. they're providing almost unbelievable effectiveness. the other vaccines do the same but not to the same degree. having said that, chuck, the faster -- it's what we talked about. whatever shot you can get, you get. that holds for the world. pfizer will just be a part of that solution, but a big one. >> andrea, let's wrap things up with the start of the g-7. again, i want to go back to something i brought up to richard, which is the awkward nature of the fact that some g-7 countries are going to be asking

biden and johnson for some vaccine. >> exactly. and covid is a big issue here. they've been in virtual lockdown again with recent resurgence and with the concern about the indian variant. this is not like a g-7 you've ever covered. we haven't been here in two years because of the pandemic. white house reporters, very limited access to the principals. there is always concern of an outbreak. the eu has not done very well. the uk has done better but has still had these upswings. >> andrea, i got 30 seconds. how is the special relationship? is there going to be one between boris and biden? >> reporter: i think so, yes. it's in both of their interests except over northern island. that is a big issue. the brexit negotiations on the northern island, that's not going so well. >> look, you're not missing

anything here other than horrible d.c. humidity and a lot of cicadas, so i'm jealous of you being in cornwall. dr. patel -- we have a quick across the network programming note. from risk of regulation to ransomware. cnbc's "power lunch" is going to dedicate their entire show to the crypto craze, speaking to the industry that's coming up at 2:00 p.m. eastern on cnbc. with streaming and all that, you don't miss anything. don't miss that. crypto. we're all trying to learn more. that does it for this hour. we're back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." we continue with geoff bennett right after this break. e with gt right after this break

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it's good to see you. i'm geoff bennett, and as we come on the air this hour, president biden just made a major announcement that the u.s. will donate half a billion vaccine doses to countries in need around the world. the president made a moral case for america's role in helping bring an end to the worldwide pandemic, comparing the fight against covid-19 to the global mobilization of the second world war. >> this is about our sp