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party don't want him to. the other demanding investigations into his political rivals. extraordinary new reporting breaking overnight showing that is exactly what the trump justice department did. ordering a big tech company to turn over records of at least two key democrats, both trump critics, showing no one is off limits. we're live with a reporter who broke that story. another member of the committee targeted by the doj. were her records subpoenaed, too? the current president is looking to prove that he is not trump, far from it, in his first test on the world stage. president biden at the g 7 hoping to normalize a new diplomacy. he preps for a bigger meeting next week with a jump. asked by reporters this morning what was his message to the
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russian president. >> mr. president, what's your message to mr. putin? >> good morning, i'm hallie jackson in washington on a busy friday. we started on the breaking news with leann caldwell. also one of the reporters that broke the story, katie bether. we're going to hear what me are, -- merrick garland's move will be. the targets, at least a dozen people tied to the house intelligence committee that was, at the time, investigating russia in the 2016 election including adam schiff, eric
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swalwell and one that was a child at the time. the new york post and outlets all part of the aggressive hunt for who was leaking aggressively to the media. >> i have actually called the justice department to look into the leaks. those are criminal leaks. >> and while want department of justice leak investigations are routine, right? ones into members of congress are almost unheard of. no comment today from the department of justice today. >> it is hard to express just how shocking an abuse of power this really is. >> katie and leann, let me bring you in, we're going to back into some of the rest of this, but start with where does this go
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next. the reporting is out, the reaction has been babbled in the last eight to ten hours or so. what happens today, tomorrow, and in the days ahead? >> i think we will see a couple things. one, extreme pressure on the inspector general to open up an investigation to get to the heart of what was going wrong with the leak investigations. are pretty common. that's not the issue. the issue is whether or not the leak investigations were being used in a political manner or a partisan manner. one thing we have not found is evidence that the republicans on the house intelligence committee were similarly investigated. they will not tell whether or not the public was investigated. so that will be the first order of business. second, there is swelling in the justice department. what do we do about all of the rhetoric and all of the stories.
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they are not going to go after the records any more. the president has come out and said that he doesn't think the reporter records should be taken. what we have seen is that it is not just a story. there are all sorts of ways that the leak investigations can be used to raise serious questions about the politicalization of the justice department. there is an interesting pete of reporting that says they were not often repleased with senate intell. both committees that look at sensitive and secret investigation, it was lead by a democratic at the time. senate intel by a republican. >> we reached out and we have not heard back yet, but no one knows at this point if republicans in the house
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intelligence committee more subpoenaed for this investigation. aide to adam schiff continue to say that this was closed. but we do know that former president donald trump had a vendetta against representative schiff who obviously was investigating the former president for many reasons and lead an impeachment against hip and he would publicly call for investigations into adam schiff. this is the department of justice who carried that out. and perhaps on behalf of the former president, but there are, there is a lot of questions that are still needing to be answered. the aides to adam schiff say they're asking for more information from the department of justice in a timely manner. something they have not yet
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received. and again, like katie said, they want the inspector general to open an investigation and now on the senate side, senator ron wyden --widen who has been concerned is calling for an investigation. >> you saying the data did not tie the committee to the leaks, and at that point investigators debated whether or not they hit a dead end. but bill bar revived the leak investigations a year later. let's remind people what bill barr said or would not say before 2019 in congress. >> has the president or anyone at the white house asked or suggested that you open an investigation of anyone, yes or no, please, sir. >> the president or anybody else. >> it seems you remember something like that.
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>> i'm trying to grapple with the word suggest. there is discussion of matters out there that they have not asked me to open an investigation. >> suggested? hinted? >> why he push third degree. >> one thing to note is that barr didn't have to open any investigations because these were already open investigations into the president's enemies including jim comey and adam schiff. one of the things we see him doing is looking at the landscape and seeing that some of the prosecutors con vicinitied they do not need to go forward.
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really he prosecuted gains cases, and into the national security division that overseas classified leak investigations and he has not resieved them, he did not put new energy behind them. encouraging people, adding resources, saying they can have whatever they need for these investigations. it's not just people that angered president trump, but also how did classified information make it's way in but also things like the schiff and comey case. this is how barr revives this, bringing in an outside presence that is able to spur people on and continue to take actions when they have already don't this extraordinary thing and then we see in 2020 the request and the issues begin as well as
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they try to start to find new evidence that could give muscle to the cases. >> thank you so much. really appreciate you being on with us this morning with your new reporting overnight. i want to bring in jackie spear. a democrat from california and the member of the investigation committee. congresswoman, good morning thank you for being back on the show. >> thank you, great to be with you. >> i have no reason to believe they have. let's be clear, part of -- you had trump that trampled on the constitution pure and simple. hi took the attorney general of the united states of america, whose client is the people of america, he weaponized the attorney general, and has the
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attorney general institute an investigation into the chairman of the house intelligence committee that was in the process of developing an impeachment investigation of the president. this is an abuse of power, it violates celebration of power, and i think as history looks upon donald trump they will see an effort to under mine this dmokt si in a way it never has before. so i think the inspector general must look at the attorney general's office. it has never ever been used as a something for the president of the united states or private attorney to look up persons of the separate and equal branch of government. >> i want to follow up on that and i want to lay out some
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facts. have you heard of anyone else, you have not been notified of your records being subpoenaed by anyone. have you heard of anyone else that had their records looked up? >> no, not at all and i don't think we know. >>. >> do you think is more throughout? >> yes, i'm sure that staff was probably part of that sweep. the department of justice has the right to pursue the leaking of classified information. but going back in time devin nunez early on was trying to suggest that somehow former president obama was using his power to go after the campaign of trump. now we have a president, trump who is going after the separate
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but equal branch of government, and is saying they did not pursue an investigation into his illegal actions. >> you have on this show joined those called from nancy pelosi and others to investigation. what else in your view needs to happen, must happen, and what is congress's role in this? >> yes, good question. i think you have to restore the integrity. it has to be independent of the president in terms of making decisions to take on cases. it is, again, the attorney for the seasons of the united states of america, not the president of the united states. >> so given that what do you
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need to hear from america gar land. sometimes these officials involved still work at the doj, do they need to testify? >> yes. >> and should those officials stay in their jobs? >> i don't think so. if these are career members of doj they have lost their moral compass. they violated their oath of office, and the constitution. and i don't think they should continue in those positions. >> do you want to see them anywhere at the doj. or are you saying they should be removed anywhere? >> i think they va lated their oath of office? >> is that something you plan to do. what do you need to hear from him? >> we cannot allow them to be
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weaponized. this takes us back to richard nixon and others. given the abuse and the opportunity to abuse their power they did begin. >> congressman jackie spear, this has been a unique situation. for the attorney general to clean house. thank you for being with us. i'm sure we'll talk again in the days to come. we're also following as we eluded to a different big story involving the current president and that is president biden. his first big test on the world stage in just the last hour. getting together with the other g 7 leaders. we're taking you live overseas to the u.k. including how andrea
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president's first test on the world stage. there is boris johnson, this is him just moments ago. >> this is a meeting that genuinely needs to happen. we need to make sure that the lessons from the pandemic -- we need to make sure that we don't repeat some of the errors that we have made in the course of the last 18 months or so. >> and right before that moment was this visual which we have not seen in a couple years. leaders gathering for the family photo. they didn't do the g 7 last year so it's been a couple years since then. peter alexander is traveling overseas with president biden and we're joined by rick single. he was also a member of the biden transition team. good morning to you both. peter, let me start with you. an ambitious day one of this thing, right? talk to us about what we're
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expecting in the hours ahead and what plays out. >> this was socially distanced, but there were no masks and covid is really central to the conversation. they begin the effort to save lives and rev up the economies and to build back better in the words of not just joe biden but boris johnson. there is a formal pledge. an effort to vaccinate the world by the end of 2022. an effort that the white house is saying they're trying to defeat the pandemic if is a crucial issue. boris johnson saying as they build back one of the goals is to make the world more equal and gender neutral in his words as well. those are not the only topics they will focus on. as you noted here climate is
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key. cyber threats. a global corporate tax of 15%. the companies could fend away to avoid them. but the optics and the images of this event are as important as ever. in 2018 there was one photograph of angela merkel looking over at the president, a scowl as she tried to go toe to toe with the president. a very different scene today even as they were gathering here in the first moments. the two men wrapping their arms one another, really an effort by this u.s. president to demonstrate an embrace of america's allies ahead of the crucial summit next week. >> a lot of on that, rick, let me bring you in here.
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as we noted, part of the mission is to prove that he is not the predecessor, right? there is an approvement in the global image. they are saying they're confident in biden. and that number is only 17% for president trump, same thing with the favor ability. is president biden so far delivering on what he needs to deliver on on that front? >> i think he is. it is a pretty low bar but biden is saying that he is a plan of alliances. it is not just silly america first, but it is symbolic and it is saying these prosperous nations can make you prosperous.
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that announcement about the one million vaccines, it is so important, and it is symbolic of the what they used to call the arsenal on democracy. how we can use it for the rest of the world. that is what he is trying to do here. he is saying that democratic countries have to show results. that is what he is doing and i think he has been successful so far. that's why the esteem of the world is higher than it has been. >> the covid issue is significant. i want to ask you. there is a lot of attention being paid to the president. we would be remiss if we didn't talk about the role of diplomatic efforts on the part of the first lady.
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she was with kate middleton visiting pre school students. andrea mitchell breaking royal baby news. there is still a role that joe biden plays here, right? she is doing something here, too. >> yeah, it it is a return to a tradition that people understand and like. when you have a first lady that wears something on her back and people can interpret, i don't really care i believe that was the message versus owe biden with a jacket, a sentiment that no one can dispute. and everybody is glad. part of this is a return to diplomacy. that's how it works. that's how alliances work.
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biden it showing those historic alliances. >> we'll look for more breaking royal baby news from you this weekend as you're covering the president. thank you so much. i appreciate it. coming up, the question on capitol hill today. deal or no deal. the longest infrastructure week continues. why some of the talks seem revived overnight. plus in the house, what the quad is saying about one of their own. and why she is at the center of another party fight. t the cente another party fight. do you see ? yes, thank you, that was fast. sgt. houston never expected this to happen. or that her grandpa's dog tags would be left behind. but that one call got her a tow and rental... ...paid her claim... ...and we even pulled a few strings. making it easy to make things right: that's what we're made for. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for.
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the reports of the death of a bipartisan infrastructure back seem to be greatly exaggerated this morning. democrats are saying they have now in principal reached an agreement, $579 billion in new spending, a total of $1.2 trillion in new spending in the next eight years. beyond those ten senators, skepticism seems to be the name of the game. what is going on? there is still a lot of rules to overcome. we keep saying talks are happening, talks are stalled, what is the deal for realistically getting something passed? >> these ten senators have what they call a conceptual frame work. it is a price tag for a total of
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1.2 trillion, and as you know, it is one thing to get ten senators on board, it's another thing to get 60. there is a lot of skepticism. some progressives like ed markie say if it is climate change, they're a no. on the republican side, this is twice as big as mitch mcconnell and the other team posed to president biden. they said that is probably about as high as republicans are willing to go. the question of whether or not republicans are on board depends in large part if the president is on board. they spoke about how they're thankful they can be moving forward on the deal. >> live on capitol hill, sahill.
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trying to overturn a contest he lost. it would be one thing to view these different stories under the picture specktive that trump exited the political stage never to return again, but an entirely different thing to look at them with donald trump remaining the de facto leader of the gop, and his party's presidential front rounder. i'm joined by former u.s. attorney and contributor joyce vance. we heard from the congresswoman on this show that she wants merrick garland to clean house. four of the officials in this investigation are still at d.o.j. is that appropriate at this point in what do you think
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merrick garland will do? >> it reminds me of the situation in place following the failed prosecution of ted stevens. they ordered doj to revamp their discovery policies. merrick garland will have to engage on it as well. looking at america garland is like if you have a new homeowner and they call in an inspector and the inspector finds a dead body and a bloody knife in the wall, you don't focus on the new homeowner, you need to find out what happened with the old ones. you want to know what they did if and when they found out about it. but this is something that is
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difficult to over emphasize the nature of this. did it can't be tolerated, we need to know the facts. >> one of the more eye popping pieces is a minor at the time had their records caught up in this as well. under what universe would have child need to be subpoenaed in a leak investigation. is there an actual reason why that may happen? >> so prosecutors once they have an investigation open are free to cut subpoenas. they have to believe the subpoena will produce evidence in their investigation. you have to see the minor, maybe if they have good evidence that suggested that a staffer or a congressperson was avoiding responsibility by using a child's accounts, then possibly you might get there, but this is very questionable and needs a hard look.
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now one passenger is fighting back against this form of facebook disinformation telling migrants there are safer. we're going back to a trip to tijuana. tell us what you learned. >> this is an explosive new report that we got an exclusive look at. and it lead us to understand that there is an open marketplace for these human smugglers. they get so much convenience, they can find an audience of customers so easily. so we decided to go to mexico to see what it looks like in real life. >> you can find a car for sale, book a reservation, and arrange to be smuggled into the united states.
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>> in a new report, facebook has become the preferred platform for so called coyotes and the desperate migrants they pray on. >> they have been looking to diversify their financial resources through human smuggling and facebook gave them a free one-stop shop to do that. >> so we're going to see for ourselves and travel to a shelter in tijuana full of families from central america. most have been deported from the u.s. after buying passage. >> people here are telling us they have been commuting with coyotes to try to get across the u.s. border. they spent thousands of dollars and years of their lives and ended up here in tijuana. >> the going rate is $9,000 for an adult, $7,000 for children. it's an established online market. after finding them on facebook, communications switch to
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picture but they arrive sick or dieing. >> these people are so brutalized and dramatized they don't realize they have been deported until he breaks it to them they're back in mexico. >> great reporting, i appreciate you being live for us this morning. just minutes from now lawmakers getting ready to start a virtual hearing focused on voting rights. we'll have the details. up next here on this show, the latest battleground in the country's culture wars? a suburban dc school district. we have that school district's leader on facing down angry parents. n facing down angry parents. ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ karma-karma-karma- karma-karma chameleon ♪ ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ you come and go-o-o ♪ ♪ loving would be easy if your colors were like my dreams ♪ ♪ red, gold -- ♪ [ tires screech ]
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children needs to stop now before it gets out of hand. >> widely viewed as a state official rejection now of critical race theory. >> that is one of the hottest topics in conservative media, new front in the cultural wars that republican, including president trump are slamming. on how policies of the law have throughout the nation. nine states are looking at expanding that anti-racism teaching. but 21 states in red, on your screen, want to restrict it. and in virginia, one district is facing a lawsuit because white parent are arguing this is teaching white students to feel ashamed of what? because their race is part of an oppressive system. that's happening in loudoun county, outside of d.c. you may be thinking why does
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loudoun county sound different, we talked about it on this show, after a teacher being suspended because he refused to call kids by their preferred pronounces the parent at the school talked to us last week. >> if the teacher can't keep with best practice of the student what keeps them safe and most able to learn and not harass and assault the student, because for a transgender child that can be one of the most traumatic experiences. >> joining me now the superintendent for loudoun county public schools dr. scott ziegler. dr. ziegler. thank you for being on the show. >> you're not teaching race theory, that's not part of the curriculum at loudoun county schools. you're focusing on equity, right? explain the distinction here. explain what you are or not
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doing. >> you're right, hallie, we're not teaching race theory and the equity focuses around developing our staff and developing our staff competency, so they can provide the best environment for the students. we're really out to provide educational excellence in an environment that is safe, welcoming and affirming for all of the students. and that's what the equity efforts are about. >> thank you for explaining that, but i do want to play some sound from one of the meetings this week. i know you're familiar with it. parents in your district who are, frankly, furious, watch. >> i will do everything i possibly can to fight to the bitter end, until you prove to me that you are not teaching my children that they are racist, please just focus on the traditional subjects that public schools were created for. >> loudoun county parents, students and teachers, we've been deceived. we thought we had a voice in the system that we could trust the people in charge, we were wrong. for the members here is the
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assignment with a copy of the first amendment attachi'm going to leave this here and i hope you have it. >> how do you navigate those concerns? how do you approach those concerns and why do you 24i6r7k think it struck such a nerve? >> hallie, i put the focus back on the parents i've been listening to not only parents but meetings with students as part of my advisory panel made up of 11th graders from all across the division. been part of a roundtable discussion in cooperation with the governor of virginia to talk to students. and students have told me that they experience racially charged and hurtful incidents on a daily basis at school. and they've asked me to do better. to have our staff do better. really, that's what we're doing. i like to keep the focus on what the students are saying and the student experience in the school.
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and make sure we're providing the best environment we possibly can for them. >> do you see this resolving anytime soon? do you think this is a conversation that will dissipate, or do you think this is an issue that is a flash point? >> i think it will continue to be a flash point. but here in loudoun county, we're going to continue to keep that focus on students. i've been honest with parents throughout this that we're not teaching critical race theory to our students. we are focusing on that environmental impact we can have on the schools and making the school buildings welcoming, safe, inclusive and affirming to all students. when we talk about equity, our equity discussions go way beyond race. we talk about equity as it relates to body image, body type, different abilities of gender expression and orientation. all of those things are part of our equity discussion. and it's really ashamed that it's gotten tied up under this
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one umbrella of critical race theory, which is not there, because we're just doing the best we can for kids. >> do you think critical race theory in and of itself is something that should not be taught in schools? >> so critical race theory is not a k-12 subject, right? it started as a way to critically look at the way legal systems were involved in the country. it is work of academics and a academia, it's not the work of k-12 education. to say we're teaching critical race theory in the classroom is not the case. >> there's another issue that loudoun county is involved in. we talked to it several times on the show. a teacher that was reinstituted to the classroom after a suspension for not coming students with their preferred pronouns.
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i'm not going to ask about specifics because we're not going to get far on that broadly speak having you spoken -- you talk about the focus being on students have you spoken to them about this issue, what have they told you broadly about how students are treated in loudoun county. >> will say this about the case, respectfully, we do disagree with the judge ace decision. we will appeal that decision very shortly to the virginia supreme court because we feel it's the best thing to do for our students. and let me say this about transgender issues. we are developing policies in order to comply with the law. a virginia commonwealth law, that goes in effect on july 1 that says we must have policies for transgender students that address things like activity, restroom use. and so, whether we agree or disagree, which we wholeheartedly agree with, we have to have those in place by the start of the school year. that being said, our transgender students are out there, and they
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want to be affirmed and welcomed in our school as well. and a lot of tiles, they're scared to come forward because they're still closeted or still transitioning, so we want to respect their privacy. but their parents are coming. we know there are parents who have said if my child's teacher refuses to use their preferred pronouns, i don't want my child being taught by that teacher, so, you know, there's a lot involved in this. and again, we just put it back on the students and doing what's best for students in every way that we can. >> loudoun county under a distinct national spotlight. dr. scott ziegler, i'm so appreciative of your time this morning making news on this show about that appeal to the virginia state court. thanks for being with us, craig melvin picks up our coverage on msnbc right now. ♪♪ and a good
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