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>> i bet you're right on that one. john cox, thank you so much. sorry it was so short. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'm going to turn it over to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation." good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, watch for the hook. right now the plan appears to be working perfectly. even in donald trump's absence from the white house, there is a near perfect synergy between the chaos of his following and the cowardness of his allies in elected office, and the same gop lawmakers who rhetorically did
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not like the insurrection now say it was a misunderstanding in the horror of that day and in the run-ups in the last year. when president trump threatened to run vehicles off the road in texas, when white nationalists planned to kidnap and brutally murder the governor of michigan. when right wing terrorists stormed the oregon state house armed with weapons of war, and now congressional republicans, even if they're internally opposed to the insurrection that threatened their lives, that forced them to cower in fear, these same legislators are content to use the disorder sown by the trump years to stay in power. that is why they killed the
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offer to investigate the insurrection before it even had a chance. that's why they're threatening to kill the voter protection legislation. but the gop lawmakers and the lawlessness being upheld by the republican lawmakers is the biden administration and its justice department which will be standing in the way with his leadership. joining me now, congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, also house majority whip. congressman, some 465 americans have been arrested for participation in the january 6 insurrection. among them six members of the right wing, 3%ers, a group
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charged with conspiracy this past week as the justice department says it expects at least 550 people will ultimately be charged. i emphasize the scale of the doj investigation because congress investigated the september 11 attack, the oklahoma city bombing, and, of course, the attack on the u.s. embassy in benghazi. but when it comes to the justice department has called the more complex investigation it has ever prosecuted, your republican colleagues say that we need to move on, literally, nothing to see here. and so they blocked the democrat bill on the floor for the first time this year all to kill the commission. your response, congressman, and is it time for a select committee, no matter how partisan it may be or appears to be to the gop? >> thank you very much for having me, reverend. i think there are a couple
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things that are timely as we speak. number one, i think it's time for schumer, majority leader schumer, to put that deal back on the floor. he said that he might bring it up again. i think that there may be enough republicans who now see that it's time for us to conduct this investigation. if for no other reason than the recent revelations still to come out as to what was going on not just with trump, but with both of his attorneys general. we've had two of them there. it looks as if both of them were doing things that went beyond the law. and i believe all of that is a part of this. so put it back on the floor and then let's see what happens. if the senate can't get to 60
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votes, then nancy pelosi will move forward in the house and assert her authority as speaker of the house to put together the right kind of investigation. now, she has some alternatives that she might pursue. she could empower a single committee, beef that committee up and let them go forward. or she could create a select committee or a select subcommittee as she did as it relates to coronavirus. but whatever she does, i would hope that we would staff it sufficiently, fund it sufficiently and have a very extensive investigation. because this democracy is worth saving. it may not be with our republican colleagues, but for the future, this country, and this world we live in, we need to make sure that we keep this
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democracy moving forward in its pursuit of perfection. and i do believe she will do that. >> so before i move off that, you're saying that senate majority leader schumer ought to bring this back to the floor to the senate. if he can't get the 60 votes, then speaker pelosi should move forward and has several options to do that. let's move on to voting rights for a minute and the big lie weaponized to undermine them. as i asked congresswoman jayapal yesterday, are you fighting for the voting rights contingent, working with other agencies to combat this suppression campaign by state legislators? is it enough? especially as democrats' voter protection legislation is at best being installed in the
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senate. >> no, no, it is not enough. look, it is one thing to put an investigation in place that could result in what we call, after the fact, investigations. elections will be over, people will be serving in office and it may take years for us to find out what may or may not have gone wrong. we need to do prevention stuff, and that's what this legislation is for. hr-1 has a lot of prevention stuff in it. hr-4, what we call the review that we make before a law is put into place or a process it put into place. so we should do what is necessary to investigate when something may go wrong, but we have the authority under the constitution. article 1, section 4 gives
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congress the authority to determine how federal elections are conducted. so this whole notion of the state legislatures all over the country now i understand that 48 of the 50 states have now done stuff, proposed stuff, some have gone past it, that will suppress voting and make it easier for people to throw out the elections. come on, what is that all about? we should keep that stuff from happening and we can do that with hr-1 and hr-4. >> let me go next, congressman. i have to ask you, the bombshell news last weekend that president trump leaned on his doj to spy on other agencies, particularly
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adam schiff, and just today we see reporting that former white house counsel don mcgahn and his wife were reportedly among those targeted by the justice department with a subpoena for their account records while mcgahn was still serving under then-president donald trump. your reaction, congressman? >> well, you know, that's what i've been saying. a lot of people look at this kind of stuff and say, well, it ain't me, it's them. well, let me tell you something. mcgahn was this man's counsel and they were spying on him. that ought to tell you what this is all about. it may be that it could be happening to my family today, but just look out. it is going to happen to you as well. we've got to get to the bottom of this. we came pretty close to watching
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an insurrection succeed. you know, i used to teach history. i used to tell my students all the time, roman empire failure 476 a.d., the greatest empire known to the world. this is the greatest democracy the world has ever seen. if the greatest empire can fall, the greatest democracy can fall. we had better be careful here to hide behind whether or not this guy is a member of it. we are if the throes of a real test of whether or not democratic governments will rue the day. >> one quick last question.
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with negotiations between the white house and the gop defunct, is it making sense to have a reconciliation? the report we've seen has democrats divided over whether the president is too distracted by infrastructure to focus on other domestic priorities like voting rights and for the people act and john lewis act. where do you come down on this, congressman? >> i come down on moving forward. we cannot allow this president to go the way of president obama. president obama put a lot of faith and confidence in the senate doing what they should do and then never did it. i remember the 2009 so-called -- what we call the deal to build
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back the economy that we lost in 2008. remember, 2008, obama was not president then. when obama became president, he put together a very comprehensive bill, 92, almost a trillion dollars. the senate got it, cut it back about $200 million. joebd was there. he was hr implementing that. he knows what happened and he's not going to let that happen to him. i think it's time for russ fwag. democrats and republicans support what he's doing. just you can't get representation for it.
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let's put the bill on the floor, let's pass it and see whether or not the senate will vote it down. >> all right, i'm going to have to leave it there. always good to have you. thank you so much, congressman jim clyburn. if you were watching yesterday's "politics nation," you know about the california judge who overturned that state's assault weapons ban, comparing those weapons of war to swiss army knives. the judge's ruling included a 30-day window for appeal by california's attorney general bob banta, who joins me now. mr. attorney general, thank you for being here. what will the appeals process look like in this case? >> well, we filed our appeal already to address this very concerning, very problematic ruling that in my view is fundamentally flawed on the law, the facts when it comes to
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common sense and we'll have a briefing feed tomorrow. there will be a an anticipated stay on that court order that very problematically compared an assault weapon to a swiss army knife. it also said more americans have died of the covid-19 vaccine -- not the covid-19 -- vaccines more than mass shootings. >> there is an assault on assault weapons. what are the limitations of a state-by-state patchwork of laws to address this problem?
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>> it's been very effective in california. it's been a pillar and a foundation of one of the strongest sets of commonsense gun laws in the nation. as a result, we have one of the lowest numbers of firearm deaths, related deaths, and we certainly can't act alone. we believe we've done our part on the cutting edge when it comes to common sense gun laws. but we also need other states to react. we are states with open borders, and if we can get that in a neighboring state and bring it in to our state, it's california has led on this. it has saved lives. untold numbers over the year. we also need other states to act
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and we need the federal government to act as well. >> now to the voting laws. with dozens of states passing laws that make it harder for people of color to vote, california is one of the few states looking to expand the contract. are you in contact with other state ags about this issue, and if so, what are those conversations like? >> we are in contact through some of the national attorney generals associations, and we're all very concerned about the rising number of voting suppression laws that are coming onto the scene throughout the nation, including, of course, georgia and other states, criminalizing acts related to the act of voting, voting like giving foods and water in line to exercise their fundamental right to skproet make their voice haempltd.
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having automatic voter registration. ly. and early voting and expansive programs. right now as we saw in the most recent election, we had record high turnout for communities of color, people who often felt like the right to vote has had obstacles between it and them. now we have more foam come out and beer seeing the response of these voter suppression applause, it's very and. i want my colleagues to make sure we are pushing back against those voter suppression laws and moving into laws that expand that fundamental right to vote. >> the for the people act it
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hang og by a thread. what will these kinds of federal for public elections? >> it would create an incredible foundation for voting rights throughout the nation. it wouldn't allow for the -- the retaliatory jim crowlike era that we saw. in america you have a floor, a floor of fundamental access to that right to vote that we all should have, so it would mean a lot to get that passed and would help state attorneys general and communities throughout the nation to protect that fundamental right to vote. >> last question. california signed onto a supreme court brief urging the court to keep the nationwide eviction
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moratorium in place, specifically citing the fact that black and brown renters are both most at risk ofie conviction and less, what will the consequences be for california if the court overturns the moratorium? >> it will be horrific, it will be tragic. we'll see some of our most vulnerable communities be affected into homelessness and incredibly vulnerable circumstances where their lives, health and well-being are put at serious risk. and societies should be judged based on how we treat our most vulnerable. now is not the time to remove the eviction moratorium, now is the time to see and value our vulnerable communities and make sure they're protected. right now it is 40 million renters across the united states of america who are at risk if
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this moratorium gets reversed. the cdc has done the right thing t., period, full stop, end of store. >> well, thank you, california attorney. attorney you may not know how hard this hits communities of color. we have new video to show exactly how dire this situation has become. i'll tell about you it in "rise up." and president biden's meeting with vladimir putin is just days away. we found out they actually agree on one thing. but first, my colleague richard lui. >> president biden wrapped up his time in the g7 summit this
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morning in cornwall, england before getting on a plane to meet queen elizabeth ii. they participated in a garden ceremony. the president then traveled to brussels with a nato summit on sunday. he is expected to meet energy. 90% of the stalt. utah state fire department sirg r. more "politics nation" with rev aend -- reverend al sharpton after a break. after a break. just didn't feel like things were as sharp as i knew they once were.
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for this week's "rise up," i want to talk about climate change and climate justice.
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because this week we hit another dire milestone. as the ratio of planet-warming carbon dioxide in the atmosphere set a new record, and while all the talk about co2 parts per million and how many degrees of celsius the planet has already warmed can be confusing at times, president biden put the climate crisis front and center this week. >> the chiefs told us the greatest threat facing america was? global warming. because there will be significant population movements, fights over land, millions of people leaving places because they're literally sinking. >> climate change constitutes a global emergency, and the pressure is on president biden and the rest of the g7 leaders to commit to big, bold
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mitigation efforts. and while it might seem as if an issue like a rapidly warming planet would actually impact all nations equally, the story of global warming is also a story of geopolitical and racial injustice. scientists have been warning for decades that the wealthy countries whose emissions caused a crisis will not be the ones who will bear the brunt of the damage. instead rising seas will disproportionately threaten small island nations while droughts will ravage african and south american countries far more than their counterparts in europe and north america. but it is not limited to national racial inequinequities. right here in the united states, the effects of climate change are already falling most heavily on black, brown and indigenous communities. studies showed that people of color are twice as likely to
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experience increased heat stress in their neighborhoods, an ugly legacy from the history of redlining. black people are also most likely to live in flood-prone areas, and even when government agencies like fema come in to help, studies show people of color are often left behind. meanwhile the face of the climate movement is often portrayed as mostly white, even as black, brown and indigenous activists have been fighting for recognition of this issue for generations. but today's environmental movement is finally starting to reflect the young people. they are starting to fight
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incestral lands from getting lost in the seas. how can one person make a difference in a crisis engulfing the entire planet? to start we can follow the example being set for us by our young people. time is of the essence, and while individual actions like flying less often, eating less meat and divesting from fossil fuel companies are good, what we need is big systemic change. the american jobs plan currently stalled by republicans in congress has billions in funding for climate action. we should demand it be passed and think even bigger how children and kids all over the world should not bear this burden alone. it's time to rise up together before it's too late, because as
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welcome back to "politics nation." a lot to get to with my next guest. joining me now, msnbc political analyst and writer at large for the bulwark, tim miller. and christy greer. tim, president biden is expected to meet with vladimir putin. he is expected to agree with the u.s. that they are at a low point. what do you expect to see out of this meeting with the two leaders? >> i'm hopeful that president biden is going to lay down some clear markers about what is going to be acceptable and unacceptable in his administration with regards to russia. i think that obviously we know we won't see a repeat of what we
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saw in helsinke with the former president siding with putin over our intelligence analysts. but, you know, just not being trump is not good enough. i think he needs to lay clear markers on human rights, lay clear markers when it comes to the cybersecurity and the cyberattacks that russia has even been actively involved in or at least tacitly allowing from their country, and thinking about human rights and political rights for people like navalny and for other advocates of democracy throughout the globe who have been in danger from putin's aggression outside of his borders. i think if biden is strong on that, it will be a good week. >> christy, biden says he's looking forward to working with putin, but unlike president trump at the helsinke meeting in
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2018, he will not hold a joint press conference with him. president biden has also issued sanctions on russia back in april after four years of our prior commander in chief using flattery to try to win over putin and russia. how will the world react to president biden's change of tune? >> well, i agree with tim wholeheartedly. i think so many americans are looking for a united states president that is consistent in our message that we will not stand idly by while russia commits human rights violations with some of our adversaries across the world. not having a press conference i think is fine. until these two leaders with come to the table and come to some form of consensus, there is really no point in having this photo op, essentially, and a press conference that doesn't really tell the world what they're really working on. i think the good thing is joe biden has had 40 years of work
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on various committees in the senate where he's done work on international affairs. he's worked with leaders not just in his role as vice president but in his role as a senator, and he's keenly aware -- and we've seen this -- i think it's a character issue with joe biden that he wants to put the american people first. however, he wants to position america as a partner with our various other countries, adversaries or not, so that we're more safe, not just domestically and abroad. i think that's part of his foundation of really trying to come to the table and be very firm of what america will or will not do, but the key is making sure we're safe in a global sense because we're global citizens and not just american citizens. >> tim, as the g7 summit wrapped up today, president biden said this during his closing remarks at a press conference earlier. listen. >> i convey to each of my g7
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counterparts that the united states is going to do our part. america is back at the table. america is back at the table. i notice there was a lot of coverage of my individual comments made by my colleagues about how we were all getting along together, but the truth of the matter is we did. i felt a genuine sense of enthusiasm, but america is back at the table and fully, fully engaged. >> the president is celebrating his success at g7, but as he mends the relationship with our allies, what else does he need to do to ensure that the u.s.'s agenda remains heard on a global scale? >> there was this sort of bipartisan consensus in washington ever since world war ii. and there were some mistakes made by republicans -- by
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presidents of both parties, republicans included. human rights at home and abroad, our own interests when it comes to trade, when it comes to opening markets that are good for our economy here at home and making sure that our allies will be with them in agreements, whether it's paris or other agreements of that nature. biden is hopefully reinstating all of that. i think that's going to require some rolling back of some of trump's harmful tariffs, particularly on the rest of the world, maybe not on china, and re-engaging in a number of these other treaties that he removed us from. >> christina, tensions behind the bipartisan struggle overpassing infrastructure -- over passing infrastructure heated up this week. democrats say they will not agree to any regulation that includes climate change provisions. ed markey summing it up in a
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tweet saying, no climate, no deal. should democrats continue to fight? >> they have to, rev. we can't keep having a democratic senate that just keeps giving the republicans the store. i fundamentally believe in compromise, especially as you laid out so eloquently about climate change and the desperation that we will soon find ourselves in if we don't make real substantive changes as a nation, as a leader on this issue. we need to have democrats with a backbone that are going to stand up to their republican colleagues. they're also going to try to convince their colleagues of a necessity of coming to the table in good faith and seeing this as a priority in all things we do moving forward in all legislation. >> all right. tim miller and christina greer, thank you both. kamala harris becomes the first sitting vice president to march in a pride parade this weekend. ahead, we will look at the
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nation's largest pride marches yesterday, becoming the first sitting vice president to do so as the biden administration presses congress to pass legislation fully protecting lgbtq americans at the federal level. joining me now is kiara johnson, executive director of the national lgbtq task force. kiara, great to have you here, first of all. as i said at the top, kamala harris became the first city vice president to participate in a pride event. the capitol pride parade in washington yesterday, she called on the senate to pass the equality act, caudifying federal protections for lgbtq plus americans. how do you grade this administration five months in with regards to its inclusion and treatment of communities you
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represent? >> well, happy pride, rev. it's so nice to be here. you know what, we're just getting started, but it feels so good these first five months in. the administration is poised to be the most lgbtq inclusive of any administration before it. it matters to see vice president kamala harris showing up and showing out in the streets with lgbtq showing pride. we just heard the president say he has the back of transgendered people. we see positive indicators that there are even better and brighter things to come. >> now, i just want to pivot a bit, because you put out a statement after the derek chauvin verdict that referred to the decision as not justice but accountability. you went on to say that black lives must matter in, quote, a
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country that has never lived up to that promise. i want to flip that statement on its ear somewhat, because we know that transgender folks, particularly women of color, face a disproportionate threat of violence. according to the human rights campaign, 2020 was a record-setting years of gender non-conforming people with 44 killed. 2021 is slated to break that record even with 30 people killed. what you don't have within the black community itself is the kind of mass demonstrations that led up to the chauvin verdict as the administration pushes the quality act and congress fights its battles over policing. do you think either side understands that unique threat and is addressing it? >> you know, i really appreciate this question, and the reality is that none of us live
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patchwork lives, right? we live intersectional lives, so our pathways have to be intersectional as well. we have seen over 40 transgender murders this year and we're only in june. 40% of the women sitting in prison identify as lesbian, bisexual and queer. 40% of the people on the streets that are homeless are lgbtq people. when we are fighting for equality, justice, liberation, we have to be looking at all these intersections if we're going to come up with solutions that allow all of us to live free and thrive. >> what would your congress' legislative priorities be where the lgbtq are concerned? where are the blind spots? >> we're about to celebrate the
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colors of pride, and it's an opportunity where we are actively engaging with clergy and congregations to show up and to show out in support of lgbtq people but a progressive change overall. i think that intersection, working with people of faith, right, is really critical, because the majority of people in this country identify with some faith tradition, and that, we know, faith has always been a part of our liberation and it will continue to be so. we're also keeping watch on the anti-transgender legislation that's happening in the states. we've come a long way, and that's what pride is about, but it is also about mourning those who haven't gotten here with us and figuring out what else we need to do to move the needle. the reality is that lgbtq people are also the victims of the voting disenfranchisement laws. i know you are a staunch
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it's pride month and we're honoring the contributions while also fighting for the rights of our lgbtq brothers and sisters year round on "politics nation." the symbolic rainbow flag has been redesigned to become more inclusive. i thought i would take a second to talk about it. it now has stripes to represent brands and intersects people and their marginalization, and black and brown stripes to emphasize the contributions and sacrifices
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of people of color in the lgbtq movement overall. this new flag captures an important message. the fight for justice requires solidarity among all minorities and oppressed groups. i grew up with a sister who was openly gay way before it was accepted. my mother was a fundamentalist and a pentecostal, but never, ever shied away from embracing me and my sister equally and openly. a reporter once knowing that said to me, so your mother taught you to accept your sister being gay? i said, no, my mother taught me it wasn't up to me to accept it, and that you can't affirm anybody unless you affirm and stand for everybody. let's stop patting ourselves in the back for being inclusive. it means that we finally matured to understanding what human
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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague alicia menendez. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton. hello, everyone. as we come on the air, it is --
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the president is embarking on the second part of his trip ahead of the nato kickoff. he arrived from the u.k. and his first attending of the g7 with the united states. he was able to get leaders on board with a plan to calling out china for its human rights abuses and demanding a trance apparent investigation into the origins of the covid-19 virus. new pushback from china, a spokesperson from their embassy, saying days when global decisions were dictated by a small group of countries are long gone. but there is another layer to biden's first time on the world stage, his recurring reassurance that america is back, that the world can once again trust american leadership. it was welcome news for the president of france. >> i am willing to cooperate, and i think