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netanyahu and donald trump in pretty tight voights. have a great rest of your sunday, aleisurea. we'll see you soon. american democracy is in crisis. is the white house taking it seriously enough? my one on one with beto o'rourke. what's behind the surge of maya? i'll ask her. >> mike pompeo said the trump administration was the toughest on russia. really, he said that. leading to real-world violence and murder. i'll talk about it.
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good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. i'm sorry to have to report this to, but the past week has brought more confirmation that the crisis continues to get worse. in texas, despite the slight reprieve, republicans remain determined to pass a bill that would enact new and horrific restrictions on voting. it's one of niep bills to restrict voter registration in the state. a provision that would take away sunday early voting and hinderring black church goers? absolutely not, says republican representative, one of the bill's architects.
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he says it must be a typo. if so it's an awfully long and very specific typo. what about another provision that would make it easier for judges to overturn elections without any proof? why? that would be a horrendous policy says the same texas gop lawmaker. amazing. both of these things this lawmaker claims to be against he helped to put in the legislation. texas democrats are heading to washington wednesday to meet with vice president harris. maybe while in town they could give their counterparts advice on how to actually fight back against republicans and have a spine. senate democrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.
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enjoy this. >> we had a great, we had a respectful, we had a very informative, it was a very good relationship we had, starting of a good relationship. it really was. >> don't worry, though. house speaker nancy pelosi is convinced, convinced that manchin, who keeps saying he will never change his mind on this issue might still change his mind. >> he wrote, i believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already we canening binds of our democracy and, for that reason, i will vote against the for the people act. >> i don't give up on joe manchin. i read the op-ed. you read part of it. i think he left the door open. i think it's ajar. i'm not giving up. >> it's not just napsy pelosi.
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senator dianne feinstein declared she backs joe manchin on keeping the filibuster and said if democracy were in jeopardy i would want to protect it but i don't see it being in jeopardy right now. amazing. it's easy to blame republicans for undermining our democracy, because they are. but these democrats are in denial about it, ing their shoulders over it. trump's department of justice seizeded the data of two members of congress in 2017 and 2018. this would be a remarkable set of circumstances under any administration but as usual it happened during the trump administration make it even worse. doj's aggressive efforts targeting democratic members of congress appear to have occurred at the same time that the justice department was fighting a subpoena for trump's personal financial records to say nothing of the stonewalling during the
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house's first impeachment. rarely do we get such a stark example of the asymmetry of power. attorney general merrick garland unveiled a plan to protect voting rights. good. but also spotting anger with his unwillingness to break with trump policies and practices. for example, defending the former president in a defamation case, brought by a woman accusing him of rape. the doj is defending him still. are democrats in congress up to this fight? is merrick garland at the doj prepared to do everything it will take to not just protect americans from a fight? ultimately history will judge whether the democratic party rolled over when it mattered most. one democrat not sitting idly by
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is beto o'rourke, touring 22 cities across texas to rally for voting rights ahead of a special session planned by gop governor greg abbott. i spoke with beto while he was on the road. thank you so much for joining me on the show. i know it's humid and hot in houston. appreciate you taking time out. the texas democrat strategy of walking out of a state legislature and denying the gop a quorum, that was only a temporary reprieve, is it not isn't it inevitable that the gop will get this through at some point and it will be devastating to free and fair elections in texas? >> those texas house democrats, their courage in the political minority against overwhelming odds, and everyone's complete certainty that sb7, the voter suppression bill was going to pass, their willingness to walk out and sop that bill from
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becoming law has purchased us some time. it's important for us to make the most of it. the person who can do the most is president biden, most powerful man on the planet. we want him to use that political capital he has to help compel the senate to pass the for the people act, which will stop voter suppression in texas,j georgia, florida, across the country and open up electrics to eligible voters and make sure that all of us can participate in our democracy. >> nancy pelosi, house speaker, said she's confident that joe manchin will come along. and that democrats can organize their way around these voter restrictions, which is nonsense. aren't you worried that the leadership of your party in d.c. suspect taking this ongoing attack on our democracy
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seriously or urgently enough? you may doing a 22-city tour of texas, but they seem to be too complacent in d.c. >> worrying is not going to get us anywhere. if dr. king and andrew young and fannie lou hamer and john lewis would have just sat there and worried we would have never had the voting rights act signed into law by president johnson, who was compelled to do so by their struggle and sacrifice. we need something along those lines in 2021. so next sunday on the 20th of june, we are rallying at the texas capitol in austin to make sure that our representatives in washington, d.c., the president of the united states, hear us loud and clear at the epicenter of voting rights in this country, the state of texas. >> are they being urgent enough? straight question. do you believe the democrats in d.c. are taking this seriously or urgently enough? >> absolutely not.
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but i can't just worry about that or complain about that. i have to do my part to push them. that's why we're traveling the counties in texas, red and blue. this could not be more critical. if we fail this summer, we may not get democracy back. because, you're right, mehdi. these voter suppression bills will roll forward in a special session in texas. they'll happen in the other more than 40 states that are considering them. and what abraham lincoln called the last best hope of earth will perish from the planet. it's that serious. that's why we've got to do all we can with all we've got where we are. that describes us here in texas. >> you and i agree it's serious. many of our viewers, i think, believe it's serious. do you think that kyrsten sinema and dianne feinstein, are they guilty of endangering black and brown voting rights in places
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like texas but fundamentally disregarding them? >> i want to invite them to see it for themselves in texas. this is the toughest state in which to register to vote and it's not tough for everyone equally. it's disproportionately born by black voters, voters of color, those voters with disabilities, the very young, the very old, and those lo live in big cities. can you not have a democracy if everyone who is eligible cannot participate in t i believe those three senators you just mentioned. once they've exhausted every effort to bring in bipartisan cooperation, they'll put this country before party, before their political career and before themselves, and they'll do the right thing. the alternative is unthinkable. but all of us have the opportunity help them reach that conclusion. so, let's push them as hard as we can. >> and in terms of pushing, i do wonder, do you regret in hindsight not running against jon cornyn for the senate last
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year? if you had and won, you wouldn't have to be criticizing manchin or sinema right now. you would be the 51st vote in the senate. >> there's nothing i can do about the past. i have to do what i can with what i have and that means fighting for voting rights in texas. i'll be giving it all i've got as i know my fellow americans are at the moment. let's get after it. >> agree. and fair enough. you can't redo the past. 30 seconds left, will you be running for governor of texas as a lot of reports suggest against greg abbott next year? >> i'm going to see this fight through to the finish and then see how i can serve texas, either as a candidate or supporting candidates. one way or another, i'm in for
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the distance for texas. >> i'm going to take that as somewhere between definitely and maybe. beto o'rourke, thanks for your time tonight. appreciate it. >> thanks, mehdi. bye-bye. historic campaign, picking up what some people are calling maya-mentum. i'll talk to maya wiley about her chances of becoming the first black female mayor of new york city. benjamin netanyahu is no longer prime minister of israel. will his replacement be any better? i'll dive into it, ahead. nt be better i'll dive into it, ahead hi baby. -hey ma, how are you doing? i'm doing good, how are you? good. we are just on our way back from the beach. she's not thinking about her next appearance or even her book tour. no, she's thinking about something more important. and thankfully so is her automobile. the safest, most technologically advanced car we have ever introduced. cares for what matters. the new s-class. from mercedes-benz.
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second place, ranked choice voting meaning second place may be enough to secure a win. let's put this race into perspective. new yorkcy has a population higher than 40 states and the biggest police department in america and gdp is 1.5 trillion, the largest economy of any metro area in the country. so it matters who governs the big apple. maya wiley joins me now. we welcome any candidate on the show as well. what is the reason behind this momentum? do you credit people like aoc? >> i'm the progressive that can win this race and the endorsements have been extremely important proof points in that very coin. yes, everyone from 1199, the
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most powerful local union in the country, progressive union of our essential workers from nurses to home health aides endorsed me in february. we're so excited to have the entire brooklyn delegation, including congressman hakeem jeffries, who also have endorsed. and, yes, congresswoman aoc. that's all we have to call her. and jamal bowman. the proof point is the progressive change that my campaign is putting forward as the choice in this critical election. >> okay. given what you're saying there, recent polls show that voters who are supporting the most progressive candidates in the race represent the largest voting bloc in the city. if those voters don't consolidate around one candidate, the race could be split, left in the air, ranked choice voting with days to go.
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why should progressives choose you? what's the most progressive policy that you're pitching that no one else in the race is? >> frankly, our whole platform is the most progressive set of policies on any issue. take, for example, the fact that i'm going to shift $1 billion from new york city police department because it is poorly managed. it is not focusing our resources by keeping us safe from crime and police violence. as a black woman and civil rights lawyer i know it's a false choice to say we have to have one or the other. we need to support mental health crisis response. show this country how it's done. show this city how we can be safe from both those problems. look, housing, we have a crisis of affordability in this city before covid. now we have 400,000 more new yorkers facing eviction. i'm the candidate that has a rent subsidy plan in addition to building more permanently affordable housing with our capitol construction budget that
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i'lld double, but i'm going to subsidize the rent for families earning $54,000 or less so they're not paying more than 30% of their income on rent. >> you mentioned police violence in your answer. thursday during a debate you were asked if you would consider taking guns away from the nypd. have a listen. >> so will you take the guns away from the nypd? >> i'm not prepared to make that decision in a debate. i will have a civilian commissioner and a civil commission that will hold the police accountable and make sure we're safe from crime but also from police violence. >> maya, your spokesperson said the question was ridiculous and clearly you would not take guns away from officers. but on stage that didn't seem clear. can you tell us where you stand on disarming police officers?
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>> absolutely. i am not, nor have i ever said in this race that i would. and, frankly, part of why it was so far out of left field is that it's simply not a conversation that any candidate, any progressive candidate has even raised. i wanted to focus my one minute on the actual conversation, which is how we grow public safety. keep people safe by addressing the crisis of mental health in this country. one example right now, justin wallace, 10-year-old boy, shot and killed on the rockaways. one of the most effective we've had from a gun being shot in the first place is violence interruption. violent interrupters in the community saying they didn't have enough staff, that they need social workers and trauma and mental health response to keep communities safer. that's what we need to be
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talking about in this race and that's what i'm going to do as mayor. >> we're almost out of time. electrics are all about change. you would be new york city's first female black mayor. on the other hand you used to work for bill debl sachlt io? why should new yorkers not see you as an extension of the deblasio mayoralty? >> first of all i don't think we've ever had a mayor that grew up with pickets instead of picnics as mayor of new york stichlt i was proud to be the first black woman to be a counsel to a new york city mayor. we had 109 men and no women and only one black men, we only had had one black man as a counsel to a new york city mayor never a black woman. i'm glad of what we accomplished from universal pre-k. i showed government how to get every single apartment in
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queens, bridge house, public housing, the largest in north america, free broadband and i am the counsel who made sure we sued verizon. the only time this city has sued a big communication firm for not delivering services to all of our people. that's making change in government. and i've spent a career doing change making on government. i am excited about being the progressive candidate that's going to win this race. it's fundamental change that ensure this is city can be one where we can all live, hold on to our diversity and where it's just a great place to raise a family, no matter who you are. and that's what i'm running on. >> well, the election is coming up very fast. we appreciate you taking time out from your busy campaign. maya wiley, thank you very much. coming up, our nation has done pretty awful things abroad. we can't sweep them under the rug. we're warming up my timer.
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60-second rant is next. first richard lui is here with the headline. update on soccer star christian eriksen who suffered cardiac arrest during a match sunday. the team doctor described eriksen as gone on the field and he was resuscitated with one use of the defibrillator. tough news. if you were saving up to join jeff bechlt zos, anonymous bidder place aid bid of $28 million. it will travel to the edge of space and depart in july. church goers in a uk town had surprise visitors, president biden and first lady dr. jill biden dropped in for sunday services at a southwest england catholic church. attendee says that the bidens walked in, prayed and wished peace be with you to fellow parishioners. more after this break. parishioners more after this break. the rx crafted by lexus.
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welcome back. time for the 60-second rant. omar pointed out that the international criminal court is ripe by all those pa parties. when our nation is accused of war crimes but i'm sorry to break this to you, our nation has done awful things abroad and we need to be able to talk about them in which u.s. forces were accused of bombing of civilians in vietnam, what about iraq? was that a war crime? those tortured iraqi prisoners. we don't prosecute enough war criminals in this country and some were just pardoned by the last president and is walking free. it's not saying that the u.s. is as bad as the taliban. it's saying war crimes should be prosecuted no matter who commits them. black and native americans
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that was tougher on russia. we worked diligently to support ukraine with defensive weapons system. chris, we left nato $400 billion stronger than when we took over. we built out that relationship in a way that put pressure on vladimir putin. >> tough on putin? the trump administration tough on putin? you've got to be kidding me. the love fest between the donald and vladimir is well documented, donald calling him very nice and great guy, same ruthless russian leader who has cracked down on his own political opponents at home while attacking those abroad. as biden prepares for his first face-to-face with the russian president, the two countries are at their worst point ever while
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heaping praise on trump, of course. having today enjoyed pleasantries with the queen of england at windsor castle. here is hoping he enjoyed the afternoon as there is likely to be fewer scones and more squabbles in the week ahead. what can the u.s. pressure do to pressure the russian president? what other national challenges he and the rest of us face? former spokesperson under president obama and now host of pod save the world, tommy vita. let's start with this putin meeting. putin has said things are diabolically bad between russia and the u.s. biden said, yeah, well, we don't really like you either. in recent months, biden has called putin a killer. you have election interference, colonial pipeline hack, ongoing prove occasion provocations with ukraine. is there any point to it? >> there is a point to it. i don't care what failed secretary of state mike pompeo
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says about anything. he's a koch brother stunlg. does he think they can stabilize things to make sure things don't get worse? we have to find a bottom in this relationship. i don't think biden is harboring any ideologies that he's going to look into his eyes and see his soul like george w. bush. iron out confusion or ambiguity. i'm sure biden will push him on cyber attacks, aelectioney navalny. they may be able to find some common ground. we need to catch up. yeah. the bar is so low with anything involving trump.
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alexey navalny. that kind of thing doesn't happen really without putin administration blessing. does the united states have any leverage, tommy, when it comes to trying to pressure putin? it's not like there's some sort of military solution on the table here. >> i think we have an obligation to stand up for universal rights and we have to get our own act together in the united states. polling shows that the average person in the world is worried about democracy. our goal shouldn't be to election our countries but rather demonstrate to the world that we have better system that will deliver better outcomes, taking time and effort, not going to be one meeting. you're right, consistency matters and we need to demonstrate that, not just with the russians but across the
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board. >> globally 75% of the world compared with 17% for trump last year. biden received a warm reception largely because he's not donald trump. is that enough given the challenges america has been failing on, fighting climate change to supporting dictators? i had joe biden's deputy national security adviser john finer on this show earlier this week. i asked him that question. how can you tell russia to get democratic when we're backing people like saudi arabia and egypt? he said no, behind the scenes we tell them as well to be democratic. you and i both know that the american government does not give a consistent message on democracy. it dpepds whether you're a friend or foe. >> i think that's right. we need to push imperfect
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partners like the egyptians and president asissi. to push our allies to do more. >> yes. >> one place is on climate change, with leaders united to getting to net zero carbon emissions by 2050, but the g7 countries only count for 20, 25% of emissions. he needs to push them to do more, especially when it comes to transition away from coal and use that progress to put lerchl on the chinese and get developed countries to pay for these transitions but again the biggest thing we need to do is push the u.s. congress to help make those investments into renewable energies. unless we get our own house in order we lose a lot of leverage to push others. >> get your own house in order. well said. let's briefly talk israel,
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tommy. earlier today a new israeli government survived confidence by one vote. benjamin netanyahu is out after 12 continuous years in office. biden congratulated the new prime minister, naftali bennett, saying israel has no better friend than the united states. how much damage do you think a very partisan netanyahu did to u.s./israeli relations, especially under democratic presidents? >> he did enormous damage. i think we should all pause for a second and thank god that bibi netanyahu is gone. he is a corrupt shall racist, venal, selfish leader who put his political fortunes ahead of the u.s./israeli relationship, ahead of making life better for the average israeli. they went through four elections in the last couple of years because netanyahu, you know, couldn't form a coalition. naftali bennett is the new prm. is he my dream prime minister? no. his views on settlements in a palestinian state are not good.
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bibi's idiot son tweeted out your interview with naftali bennett's adviser, an interesting choice. this broader coalition between bennett, yair lapid have stitched together will be more progressive than a netanyahu-like government. that gives me some hope but it's still a fragile coalition. getting past the netanyahu era is enormous. you saw why yesterday, i believe, when netanyahu decided to just burn it down on the way out the door and brag about all the ways he stuck it to the united states the last few years. i don't know that that's the friend and ally we need in israel. right? we need new leadership. >> we do need new leadership. you mentioned netanyahu. benjamin himself tweeted out that clip to try to point out to people that naftali bennett abroad his briez visors are saying different things at home. is that going to be a problem? israelis, palestinians are speaking in different languages and different messages. you could say the same thing about naftali bennett.
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>> yeah, you could. that is going to be motley, unruly coalition. i don't know how it will hold together. have you to get things done and work together on points of agreement. there may be discord and messages coming out of the government given the way their system works compared to ours. they're not all naftali bennett staffers. people who disagree with him on enormous issues, serving in senior roles. i do think you're seeing democrats who are really hopeful about the future of the u.s./israeli relationship because it can get back to a less adversarial shall bipartisan one. >> as it gets back to that i hope palestinians don't get thrown under the bus. i'm sure you hope that, too. tommy vita, appreciate your time and analysis. up next, we'll talk about the real-life human consequences of right-wing islamaphobic talking points.
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on tuesday, three generations of a canadian muslim family were wiped out in a brutal attack. they were all killed when the driver of a pickup truck mowed them down at an intersection on their out for an evening walk in on tario. only the youngest son has survived and that poor kid is hospitalized with serious injuries. justin trudeau called it an act of terrorism, rightly so. islamaphobia is a murderous
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ideology, not just a bunch of offensive, bigoted words, a device used by republicans to rile up their base t leads to violence. yet these days, thanks partly to a certain former president and reality tv star, it's mainstream. it's one of the last acceptable forms of bigotry in our politics and our media. look around. it's everywhere, whether just from this past week, congresswoman ilhan omar getting piled on from her own democrat ic colleagues, or newsmax saying a high school student who said allah should be criminally investigated. it simply means god in arabic. why is this going to end? islamaphobia matters. islamaphobia kills. hate speech is a real thing with real-world consequences. if you think otherwise, if you think this is all some sort of defensive exercise in liberal
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ali describes what happened to the afzaal family, the same story with a different cast. he has been sound alarm bells. he wrote a landmark investigative report called fearing, identifying and categorying the network of well funded players in the islamophobia industry. the forthcoming book "go back to where you came from and other helpful recommendations on how to become american" joins me now. your gronkowski report was released a decade ago. would you say islamophobia in that period has gotten better or worse? >> it's been mainstreamed. it's been weaponized. it's been manufactured by the right wing and has been globalized and inspired wright wing movements from here to europe and inspired right wing extremists, terrorists, because the hate is not cross cream. talk to a 9-year-old who lost his family, his family in
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london, canada had the crime of simply being muslim. they were at a intersection, crossing the street. and a 20-year-old man decided to plow into them with his pickup truck because he saw them as the enemy. let's not forget that the president of the united states donald trump, two years ago when it came to the midterms decided to run on only one talking point, mehdi, there was an invasion, a caravan of invaders coming up the border of middle eveners and immigrants. what happened in 2018 during the midterms? robert bowers went and killed 11 people at a synagogue. he wanted to punish jews for bringing the invaders. he echoed the same talking points and said that donald trump is a renewed symbol of white identity and a renewed symbol of white purpose. so why are these extremists who come from this ideological infrastructure so influenced by these talking points that now we see openly said by laura ingraham and tucker carlson like you just mentioned this week on
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newsmax. >> in your daily beast piece words, you ask where will it happen next time? a note this is a question across communities are wondering when this type of violence can reach their doorsteps. can you explain how real this fear is for ordinary muslim americans and canadian muslims? >> you have president trump who said we, muslims were a problem in need of a solution. and the solution they came up with is the muslim ban until he can figure out what the hell is going on, right? he said i think islam hates us. we see literally ilhan omar being the trifecta who was a muslim and a refugee being seen as a boogieman. and based on her religion, she is constantly vilified and takd. if you're a muslim and watching this, you say wow, there is an entire right wing movement and a party that sees me as a problem in need of a solution. what is that solution? oh, anti-syrian bills, a muslim
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ban, oh, look, some talking points that influence violent extremists who decide to drive into an innocent family in canada to kill them because by seeing them and seeing a woman in a hijab, they see them as a threat. so it terrifies us. why would it not? would you not be afraid? >> and they say it's just speech. it's just words. it's idea. we should be able to debate this stuff, even though there are very vicious real world consequences. it's easy to say islamophobia is just a right wing problem, but that's not true, it? liberals have pushed it lamb mick talking points and tropes. you just mentioned ilhan omar. she got accused of giving cover to terrorist groups, an outrageous claim to me. what is your message to a liberal audience watching who thinks this is an issue that isn't for us? >> hate unites bigots, regardless of their ethnicity or
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their political allegiances. i'll give you one quick example. bill maher who literally repeats all the islamic talking points that you'll hear on fox news. he has been doing it for years. democrats always go on a show. rarely call him out on it. who is the one person who came out on a show and called him out? batman, ben affleck. bill maher says islamism is full of bad ideas. he has a show on hbo. he has not been canceled. so for liberals showing don't check him. >> want liberals like chuck schumer, who praised peter king, one of the leading islamophobes when he retired a few years ago, praised a man who had as one of the most leading anti-muslim bigots. i wish chuck schumer would spend one tweet defending ihan omar. the rest of russ seeing how he does not defend her and that
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means they're not going to defend us. >> i think it was harris who said islam was the mother lode of bad ideas. the mafia i think it was compared. to. >> they'll kill you. >> before we run out of time, i've got to ask this question. a lot of people say i'm criticizing islam. don't call me a racist. muslims are not a race. what is your response to that classic argument that is put forward? >> i don't have time for this mental gymnastics, this foolishness. just like when people say i'm not homophobic or i'm not anti-semitic. call it for what it is. you don't like islamophobia? anti-muslim bigotry. you're being a hater and they're having a cost and a deadly cost. if you don't think it's a deadly cost, tell that 9-year-old boy who is severely injured right in the hospital, tell him that your rhetoric is not cost-free. tell him when he realized he's
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lost his mother, he has lost his father, his sister and grandmother. tell him that. >> it's outrageous. and the guy who allegedly ran the truck into the muslim thinking about well, i disagree with this aspect of islamist theology, he was running over a muslim brown family. you pointed this out, the first in america killed in a hate crime was a sikh gags station who was killed because he had a turban on by a guy who wanted to hit a muslim after 9/11. so you're right to point out that we shouldn't engage in these mental gymnastics. thanks for writing your niece the daily beast. we need to call this out much more than we do. appreciate you taking out time tonight. >> thank you so much. >> and thank you all for watching. we'll be right back here next sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. you can catch me monday through thursday at 7:00 p.m. eastern on the choice on nbc streaming channel peacock. but that's me done for tonight. now it's time to turn it over to
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maria teresa kumar. hello. >> thanks for that important conversation. it's wonderful to see you on the other side. >> thank you so much. >> be well. wonderful to be with you this sunday. i'm maria teresa kumar in for joshua johnson. president biden is in brussels tonight, ahead of the nato summit. but everyone is awaiting the president's meeting with russia's putin later this week. and it's the end of an era tonight in israel. netanyahu is ousted as prime minister after 12 years, thanks to some unlikely allies. plus, movie star and journalist maria hinajosa is here. first we'll chat politics and then "in the heights" and what the time needs for representation. from nbc news headquarters in new york, welcome to the week. president biden wrapped up the g7 summit in england today,
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